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Admittedly, I don't know much about the Buffalo Bills organization, front office, etc. But it seems they have two competent backs in Lynch and Jackson. Looking at the distribution of touches, Lynch seems to have the advantage. I am curious as to whether he could be a potential break out candidate over the remaining 7 games of the season.

10 at Titans

11 at Jaguars

12 vs Dolphins

13 vs Jets

14 at Chiefs

15 vs Patriots

16 at Falcons

17 vs Colts

I saw a couple other threads, but they were close to a month old and discussed him in tandem with Jackson. I am curious, could this guy produce in that offense?

 
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Admittedly, I don't know much about the Buffalo Bills organization, front office, etc. But it seems they have two competent backs in Lynch and Jackson. Looking at the distribution of touches, Lynch seems to have the advantage. I am curious as to whether he could be a potential break out candidate over the remaining 7 games of the season. 10 at Titans 11 at Jaguars 12 vs Dolphins 13 vs Jets 14 at Chiefs 15 vs Patriots 16 at Falcons 17 vs Colts I saw a couple other threads, but they were close to a month old and discussed him in tandem with Jackson. I am curious, could this guy produce in that offense?
He is a beast but he is wasted right now. I'd like to think he could break out but it is going to take better QB play. They can't get the ball down the field enough to open it up for him.... So in my opinion it all hinges on the QB play.
 
I agree...if Buffalo could get a better passing game going, that would definitely help Lynch out quite a bit. I like his remaining schedule for the most part...so I think he could be pretty good down the stretch, but he's not on a very good offensive team at the moment.

 
Thanks for the responses - this is what I was thinking. The vertical threat is keeping the safeties closer to the box, guarding against the run. I am assuming that will not change and Lynch will continue to plod along. He has had a high reception game, is he the complete back?

 
Thanks for the responses - this is what I was thinking. The vertical threat is keeping the safeties closer to the box, guarding against the run. I am assuming that will not change and Lynch will continue to plod along. He has had a high reception game, is he the complete back?
If you go watch his highlights you'll love him.... He just just doesn't have a ton of chances right now...I think he looks complete and is just in a real bad situation which means in Dynasty I am holding and hoping.
 
Thanks for the responses - this is what I was thinking. The vertical threat is keeping the safeties closer to the box, guarding against the run. I am assuming that will not change and Lynch will continue to plod along. He has had a high reception game, is he the complete back?
If you go watch his highlights you'll love him.... He just just doesn't have a ton of chances right now...I think he looks complete and is just in a real bad situation which means in Dynasty I am holding and hoping.
His 3.1 ypc is pretty low, 1 TD. I like that he catches a bunch of passes, I just don't see him as anything other than an RB3, is that probably accurate in PPR leagues?
 
Thanks for the responses - this is what I was thinking. The vertical threat is keeping the safeties closer to the box, guarding against the run. I am assuming that will not change and Lynch will continue to plod along. He has had a high reception game, is he the complete back?
If you go watch his highlights you'll love him.... He just just doesn't have a ton of chances right now...I think he looks complete and is just in a real bad situation which means in Dynasty I am holding and hoping.
His 3.1 ypc is pretty low, 1 TD. I like that he catches a bunch of passes, I just don't see him as anything other than an RB3, is that probably accurate in PPR leagues?
I think Lynch will benefit alot with the return of Edwards at QB, who has a reputation for dumping it off quite a bit to his backs. Take a look at both Jackson' and Lynch's receptions for the first 5-6 weeks of the season with Edwards and you'll notice alot of receptions to RB's. Since Lynch now seems to be the better half of the RBBC (as far as touches), I think he could start performing as a good RB2 in PPR leagues down the stretch.
 
Thanks for the responses - this is what I was thinking. The vertical threat is keeping the safeties closer to the box, guarding against the run. I am assuming that will not change and Lynch will continue to plod along. He has had a high reception game, is he the complete back?
If you go watch his highlights you'll love him.... He just just doesn't have a ton of chances right now...I think he looks complete and is just in a real bad situation which means in Dynasty I am holding and hoping.
His 3.1 ypc is pretty low, 1 TD. I like that he catches a bunch of passes, I just don't see him as anything other than an RB3, is that probably accurate in PPR leagues?
I think Lynch will benefit alot with the return of Edwards at QB, who has a reputation for dumping it off quite a bit to his backs. Take a look at both Jackson' and Lynch's receptions for the first 5-6 weeks of the season with Edwards and you'll notice alot of receptions to RB's. Since Lynch now seems to be the better half of the RBBC (as far as touches), I think he could start performing as a good RB2 in PPR leagues down the stretch.
I did notice his receptions taper off a bit - thanks for providing some insight.
 
While the Buffalo offense holds him back, the timeshare doesn't do him any favors, either. If you throw out his first week back, he's had two solid weeks and two subpar weeks. However, he's had 70 carries and Jackson's had 51. If Lynch had the lion's share of those 51 carries...

...but he doesn't. So even if the offense improves, he's still losing a fair chunk of value. Only in week 7 did Jackson get a paltry amount of carries (5, compared to Lynch's 17), but that was the week after Jackson hobbled off with a leg injury. In week 8, it was a 50/50 split again.

As an owner, that's my biggest fear--it isn't the crappy offense, but the 45% of carries that Jackson is taking.

 
While the Buffalo offense holds him back, the timeshare doesn't do him any favors, either. If you throw out his first week back, he's had two solid weeks and two subpar weeks. However, he's had 70 carries and Jackson's had 51. If Lynch had the lion's share of those 51 carries......but he doesn't. So even if the offense improves, he's still losing a fair chunk of value. Only in week 7 did Jackson get a paltry amount of carries (5, compared to Lynch's 17), but that was the week after Jackson hobbled off with a leg injury. In week 8, it was a 50/50 split again.As an owner, that's my biggest fear--it isn't the crappy offense, but the 45% of carries that Jackson is taking.
The timeshare is a detriment, but not as much as the inefficiency. If you look around the league, most of the good backs have not only the opportunity but the efficiency with each carry/reception. The 3.1 ypc seems more worrisome, IMO, since you could live with 15-18 carries a game if the yards per touch were higher.
 
Admittedly, I don't know much about the Buffalo Bills organization, front office, etc. But it seems they have two competent backs in Lynch and Jackson. Looking at the distribution of touches, Lynch seems to have the advantage. I am curious as to whether he could be a potential break out candidate over the remaining 7 games of the season. 10 at Titans 11 at Jaguars 12 vs Dolphins 13 vs Jets 14 at Chiefs 15 vs Patriots 16 at Falcons 17 vs Colts I saw a couple other threads, but they were close to a month old and discussed him in tandem with Jackson. I am curious, could this guy produce in that offense?
I looked at the same schedule and decided to trade him. (This partly has to do with having two very good RB's as starters).The Jags and Chiefs look like good matchups - who else?
 
While the Buffalo offense holds him back, the timeshare doesn't do him any favors, either. If you throw out his first week back, he's had two solid weeks and two subpar weeks. However, he's had 70 carries and Jackson's had 51. If Lynch had the lion's share of those 51 carries......but he doesn't. So even if the offense improves, he's still losing a fair chunk of value. Only in week 7 did Jackson get a paltry amount of carries (5, compared to Lynch's 17), but that was the week after Jackson hobbled off with a leg injury. In week 8, it was a 50/50 split again.As an owner, that's my biggest fear--it isn't the crappy offense, but the 45% of carries that Jackson is taking.
The timeshare is a detriment, but not as much as the inefficiency. If you look around the league, most of the good backs have not only the opportunity but the efficiency with each carry/reception. The 3.1 ypc seems more worrisome, IMO, since you could live with 15-18 carries a game if the yards per touch were higher.
I kind of think the biggest problem is the lack of scoring oppotunities.Lynch had one good game, I started him amazingly, and he had a TD.On that schedule how often does that happen?Edit:Here's what I don't get, watching the Bills games this year (as a former Lynch owner) - why don't they make the offense all Lynch and Evans all the time? I don't even understand the offensive thinking.
 
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Admittedly, I don't know much about the Buffalo Bills organization, front office, etc. But it seems they have two competent backs in Lynch and Jackson. Looking at the distribution of touches, Lynch seems to have the advantage. I am curious as to whether he could be a potential break out candidate over the remaining 7 games of the season. 10 at Titans 11 at Jaguars 12 vs Dolphins 13 vs Jets 14 at Chiefs 15 vs Patriots 16 at Falcons 17 vs Colts I saw a couple other threads, but they were close to a month old and discussed him in tandem with Jackson. I am curious, could this guy produce in that offense?
The Jags and Chiefs look like good matchups - who else?
Wasn't implying this was a good schedule, just that this was his schedule. To me, he seems more talented than, say, Ryan Grant, but that his blocking/OL is nowhere near as good.
 
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if the Bills don't have the worst offensive line and coaching in the league, they are certainly in the conversation. given the situation, tough to know what to expect from him or that offense in any given week.

buyer beware, IMO.

 
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Admittedly, I don't know much about the Buffalo Bills organization, front office, etc. But it seems they have two competent backs in Lynch and Jackson. Looking at the distribution of touches, Lynch seems to have the advantage. I am curious as to whether he could be a potential break out candidate over the remaining 7 games of the season. 10 at Titans 11 at Jaguars 12 vs Dolphins 13 vs Jets 14 at Chiefs 15 vs Patriots 16 at Falcons 17 vs Colts I saw a couple other threads, but they were close to a month old and discussed him in tandem with Jackson. I am curious, could this guy produce in that offense?
I looked at the same schedule and decided to trade him. (This partly has to do with having two very good RB's as starters).The Jags and Chiefs look like good matchups - who else?
Atlanta.Two of the three playoff matchups are pretty sweet and NE isn't anything to fear.
 
Admittedly, I don't know much about the Buffalo Bills organization, front office, etc. But it seems they have two competent backs in Lynch and Jackson. Looking at the distribution of touches, Lynch seems to have the advantage. I am curious as to whether he could be a potential break out candidate over the remaining 7 games of the season. 10 at Titans 11 at Jaguars 12 vs Dolphins 13 vs Jets 14 at Chiefs 15 vs Patriots 16 at Falcons 17 vs Colts I saw a couple other threads, but they were close to a month old and discussed him in tandem with Jackson. I am curious, could this guy produce in that offense?
The Jags and Chiefs look like good matchups - who else?
Wasn't implying this was a good schedule, just that this was his schedule. To me, he seems more talented than, say, Ryan Grant, but that his blocking/OL is nowhere near as good.
I see, right.I'm a big fan and very disappointed because I traded FOR him earlier in the year.I watched a few games and I never got the impression the Bills could get anything right. He had a good game vs Cleveland, lots of catches but no scores. he ran well vs HOU but only got 9 carries.My impression watching the Bills was every 2/3's of targets/runs should go to Lynch and Evans but instead they tried to spread it around, couldn't get plays off, etc. I just wasn't encouraged enough from his actual play - based on how BUF used him - to keep him.One other thing - I had a heck of a time trying to trade him.
 
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Admittedly, I don't know much about the Buffalo Bills organization, front office, etc. But it seems they have two competent backs in Lynch and Jackson. Looking at the distribution of touches, Lynch seems to have the advantage. I am curious as to whether he could be a potential break out candidate over the remaining 7 games of the season. 10 at Titans 11 at Jaguars 12 vs Dolphins 13 vs Jets 14 at Chiefs 15 vs Patriots 16 at Falcons 17 vs Colts I saw a couple other threads, but they were close to a month old and discussed him in tandem with Jackson. I am curious, could this guy produce in that offense?
The Jags and Chiefs look like good matchups - who else?
Wasn't implying this was a good schedule, just that this was his schedule. To me, he seems more talented than, say, Ryan Grant, but that his blocking/OL is nowhere near as good.
I see, right.I'm a big fan and very disappointed because I traded FOR him earlier in the year.I watched a few games and I never got the impression the Bills could get anything right. He had a good game vs Cleveland, lots of catches but no scores. he ran well vs HOU but only got 9 carries.My impression watching the Bills was every 2/3's of targets/runs should go to Lynch and Evans but instead they tried to spread it around, couldn't get plays off, etc. I just wasn't encouraged enough from his actual play - based on how BUF used him - to keep him.One other thing - I had a heck of a time trying to trade him.
Yeah - in the limited times I have seen him, he seems like the best player on the field. He also seems like a handful to tackle and will not go down willingly (not that any back wants to go down).
 
The thing is, do you have any confidence in Jauron, or the Bills o-line? The schedule screams awesome but everything else makes me cringe.

 
The thing is, do you have any confidence in Jauron, or the Bills o-line? The schedule screams awesome but everything else makes me cringe.
I don't know, that's why I'm asking, lol. Just seems to be a very good talent on a bad team. Wondering if it's that simple, that's all.
 
The thing is, do you have any confidence in Jauron, or the Bills o-line? The schedule screams awesome but everything else makes me cringe.
I don't know, that's why I'm asking, lol. Just seems to be a very good talent on a bad team. Wondering if it's that simple, that's all.
I think it pretty much is that simple.I mean just look at Lee Evans and To's numbers this year. The offense is just terrible and it doesn't look like it is going to get any better going forward.
 
MCguidance said:
Knobs said:
The thing is, do you have any confidence in Jauron, or the Bills o-line? The schedule screams awesome but everything else makes me cringe.
I don't know, that's why I'm asking, lol. Just seems to be a very good talent on a bad team. Wondering if it's that simple, that's all.
I have him on my team and don't want to play him, no matter how sweet the matchup may be. I have zero confidence in this team's ability to get to the red zone. I have zero faith in Jauron to get Lynch 20+ carries every week.
 
Admittedly, I don't know much about the Buffalo Bills organization, front office, etc. But it seems they have two competent backs in Lynch and Jackson. Looking at the distribution of touches, Lynch seems to have the advantage. I am curious as to whether he could be a potential break out candidate over the remaining 7 games of the season.

10 at Titans

11 at Jaguars

12 vs Dolphins

13 vs Jets

14 at Chiefs

15 vs Patriots

16 at Falcons

17 vs Colts

I saw a couple other threads, but they were close to a month old and discussed him in tandem with Jackson. I am curious, could this guy produce in that offense?
The Jags and Chiefs look like good matchups - who else?
Wasn't implying this was a good schedule, just that this was his schedule. To me, he seems more talented than, say, Ryan Grant, but that his blocking/OL is nowhere near as good.
I see, right.I'm a big fan and very disappointed because I traded FOR him earlier in the year.

I watched a few games and I never got the impression the Bills could get anything right. He had a good game vs Cleveland, lots of catches but no scores. he ran well vs HOU but only got 9 carries.

My impression watching the Bills was every 2/3's of targets/runs should go to Lynch and Evans but instead they tried to spread it around, couldn't get plays off, etc. I just wasn't encouraged enough from his actual play - based on how BUF used him - to keep him.

One other thing - I had a heck of a time trying to trade him.
Which is why he is a guy to get.I Like Lynch the rest of the way.

 
It's good to see at least some people view him as a player that could potentially provide some value in the remaining games.

 
What do you see as his reasonable upside from here on out? Top 10? 15? 5?
Hmm. No way he sniffs the top 5, 10 would be too much of a stretch as well. I think top 15 is still a stretch but attainable in PPR leagues.
This is where I'm at. If his upside is barely sniffing the top 15 (I think that's his upside in ppr and non-ppr leagues alike), then why trade for the guy? Unless you're really hurting at rb and can get him for essentially a throw away player then why bother?He's not a guy who can rip off a massive run on any carry to give you a great week. He's very good at what he does, but would need to rely on **** giving him the ball 20+ times every single week to realize that potential. I don't trust that to happen on any given week.
 
What do you see as his reasonable upside from here on out? Top 10? 15? 5?
Hmm. No way he sniffs the top 5, 10 would be too much of a stretch as well. I think top 15 is still a stretch but attainable in PPR leagues.
This is where I'm at. If his upside is barely sniffing the top 15 (I think that's his upside in ppr and non-ppr leagues alike), then why trade for the guy? Unless you're really hurting at rb and can get him for essentially a throw away player then why bother?He's not a guy who can rip off a massive run on any carry to give you a great week. He's very good at what he does, but would need to rely on **** giving him the ball 20+ times every single week to realize that potential. I don't trust that to happen on any given week.
He's not my RB 1 or 2, but traded for him this weekend, making him part of my RB3 committee.
 
Lynch won't get you many TDs, but with Trent Edwards (captain checkdown) back, he should get a lot more catches. That's a great thing in my PPR leagues. The challenge as others have said is that the RBBC is too damn evenly split.

You would think that Buffalo - with their decent defense - would want to run him against the opponent all game to wear them down, then start to ride him late 3rd/4th quarter as the defense starts to wear down. He's a beast. But Jauron is too much of a dolt to do anything sensible like that. As a Bears fan, I really don't know why he's in the league anymore...

I'm impressed by his involvement in the passing game this year. He just needs the touches and it would be good...

 
Lynch won't get you many TDs, but with Trent Edwards (captain checkdown) back, he should get a lot more catches. That's a great thing in my PPR leagues. The challenge as others have said is that the RBBC is too damn evenly split. You would think that Buffalo - with their decent defense - would want to run him against the opponent all game to wear them down, then start to ride him late 3rd/4th quarter as the defense starts to wear down. He's a beast. But Jauron is too much of a dolt to do anything sensible like that. As a Bears fan, I really don't know why he's in the league anymore...I'm impressed by his involvement in the passing game this year. He just needs the touches and it would be good...
I know it's wishful thinking, but is there any chance Lynch will see more carries going forward?
 
Avoid him. Trade him if you have him.

He has played CLE, CAR, and HOU and barely did any damage. Great back, but the offensive line is woeful. I don't see many TD opps.

His schedule isn't too bad though. If Edwards balls have dropped since he's been out, and the defense is 100% healthy, they will be in games and thus more carries for Marshawn. As an owner and a fan, I'll be rooting for him. Still trying to trade him though.

 
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Avoid him. Trade him if you have him.He has played CLE, CAR, and HOU and barely did any damage. Great back, but the offensive line is woeful. I don't see many TD opps.His schedule isn't too bad though. If Edwards balls have dropped since he's been out, and the defense is 100% healthy, they will be in games and thus more carries for Marshawn. As an owner and a fan, I'll be rooting for him. Still trying to trade him though.
Trading players whose stock is at lows is not how you do it.Trade FOR him; the downside is a lot less than the upside.
 
Avoid him. Trade him if you have him.He has played CLE, CAR, and HOU and barely did any damage. Great back, but the offensive line is woeful. I don't see many TD opps.His schedule isn't too bad though. If Edwards balls have dropped since he's been out, and the defense is 100% healthy, they will be in games and thus more carries for Marshawn. As an owner and a fan, I'll be rooting for him. Still trying to trade him though.
Trading players whose stock is at lows is not how you do it.Trade FOR him; the downside is a lot less than the upside.
THIS IS HOW WE DOOOOOOO IT! ahem...sorry, just felt good to type that.
 
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I was hoping the Carolina game was the beginning of a trend of giving Lynch a much higher % of the carries, but it regressed right back to an even split the next week.

Jackson has certainly done enough to earn a nice role in the offense and keep Lynch fresh, but why the Bills coaches wouldn't want a 70/30 split in favor of Lynch is beyond me. I have to assume it has to do with his attitude, off the field stuff, or other things that don't take place on the field on Sundays.

 
not sure where else to post this, but this is a great article on the problems with the Bills this year.

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/story/854092.html?imw=Y



Bills are stalled in twilight zone

By Mark Gaughan

NEWS SPORTS REPORTER

Updated: November 08, 2009, 10:56 PM / 24 comments

The cold, sobering reality for the Buffalo Bills and their fans is there is no quick fix for their offensive problems at the midway point of the 2009 season.

There is no magic potion that is going to pull them out of their woeful offensive slump.

Defenses are forcing the Bills to make long marches down the field. They're saying: Prove to us you can go 11 or 12 plays without making a couple of mistakes that derail the drive.

The answer through eight games is resounding: The Bills can't do it.

The Bills are on pace for their second worst yardage total ever in a 16-game season. They're on pace for their second lowest passing yards total and their fewest first downs since the league went to 16 games 32 years ago.

Lee Evans and Terrell Owens are on pace for just 46 catches each, which would be the worst in Evans' six-year career and the second-worst in Owens' 14-year career. Even in 2005, when Owens played only seven games for Philadelphia, he caught 47 passes.

The Bills are seeing mostly zone pass coverage from opponents. Sometimes it's a straight Cover 2 with two deep safeties. Sometimes defenses slide their coverage in either Evans' direction or Owens' direction after the snap of the ball. Both safeties and a cornerback will cover the deep part of the field in what's called a cloud coverage. Sometimes one safety takes half the field and two defensive backs each take a deep quarter on the other side.

Owens caught a lot of passes in Dallas on crossing routes where he got the ball in stride, broke an arm tackle and sprinted up the field for a big gainer. But that pattern works against man coverage. Now when Owens goes over the middle, he has to "sit down" in a hole in the zone, catch a 6-yard pass, get tackled and go to the next play.

The Bills aren't forcing anyone into frequent man coverage because they're not efficient in marching down the field piecemeal, and defenses too often are getting pressure with four or five rushers.

The problems at offensive tackle, which have been well documented, are a big part of the reason. The Bills have allowed 23 sacks. Ten of them, by The News' count, have come around Brad Butler, Jonathan Scott or Jamon Meredith. The early season loss of Butler at right tackle presumably was costly. We didn't see enough of him to know for sure.

Lack of pass protection hinders the Bills' ability to flood the zones. Of the 23 sacks allowed, 17 have come in the three-wideout formation. (But only six of the 17 came in third-and-long, when you would expect the most sacks.) The more players you have to keep in to block, the fewer are in pass patterns.

The Bills have played a four-wideout grouping on only 14 plays all year. Granted, most teams don't use four wides a lot. But it was an effective grouping for a while a couple of years ago with Josh Reed and Roscoe Parrish in the slots. It's just not an option this year.

You simply can't start four newcomers on an offensive line and expect rock-solid coordination of who's blocking whom against blitzes and stunts.

Motion is limited

Then there's the issue of stagnant formations. In the interest of simplifying the attack, the Bills have used almost no motion and don't vary formations from snap to snap as much as many teams. They started using a bit of motion against Houston last week.

Evans doesn't move at all from his split end spot. The Bills do move Owens around from the flanker to the slot positions.

The Bills very rarely cluster the wide receivers on one side of the field to make it easier to get a free release off the line and to try to get the defensive backs to make a false step. They don't stack two receivers at the line.

The timing of the passing game needs to be crisp in order to mount 10-play drives. It would be good if quarterbacks Trent Edwards and Ryan Fitzpatrick bought a bit more time by sliding in the pocket and making more plays under duress. That's not easy, but that's what Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger does behind suspect protection.

Edwards probably needs to pull the trigger a little more quickly on some routes, such as when the Bills try to hit the dead spot in the Cover 2 behind the cornerback and in front of the safety. That's a point radio analyst Mark Kelso has made in recent weeks.

The Bills could try to expand the offense more. But it's not easy to insert a lot of new shifts and alignments in the middle of the season without the benefit of working on them all spring and summer.

At this point, a significant expansion of the game plan probably isn't the answer. The Bills need to get more proficient at running the plays they did work on during all of their organized team activity workouts and training camp.

They need to get better at the three-step drop passing game, because that's killing them on third-and-short situations.

Somehow, the coaches should be able to find a way for the offense to improve the second half of the season. There's nowhere to go but up.

Defense is gassed

The Bills' defense is allowing 173.6 rushing yards a game, a pace that would be the most in the NFL in 26 years. Bills opponents are getting 5.1 yards a carry, which would be the 14th worst allowed in NFL history.

Yet, given the lack of support from the offense, the defense is doing a pretty good job. The Bills have been in position to win in the fourth quarter every game except for the loss at Miami.

Against New Orleans, the Bills' defense got the offense the ball twice in the fourth quarter trailing by only 10-7. Against Houston, the offense did nothing with the ball and the lead twice in the third quarter and had one shot down by seven in the fourth.

Yes, the Bills rank 25th in yards allowed, but they're still only 16th in points allowed. They're 15th on third downs. They have been on the field the most plays in the league (14 plays a game more than the league average).

The Bills have 18 takeaways, 15 of them interceptions. Last year they had 10 interceptions all season. The Bills are fifth in the league in takeaways per game.

The Bills are ahead of only Oakland in time of possession (27:19). That would rank as the worst in the 28 years the Bills have kept that statistic.

Can the defense duplicate its effort and keep the offense in contention into the fourth quarter in seven of the next eight games? Probably not if the offense keeps hurrying off the field.

Another ominous sign for the run defense: The Bills face four more teams that rank in the top 10 in rushing and a fifth (Atlanta) that ranked second in rushing last year.

Running uphill

The Bills' running game ranks 19th in yards per carry, with a 4.0 average. That's not too bad given the woeful state of the passing game.

The Bills run pretty well out of the two-tight end personnel group, averaging 4.7 yards a carry on first down. You would like the first down runs out of the three-wide set to be a little better (they're averaging 3.4 a carry), given the amount of Cover-2 defense the Bills face.

Just like last year, the Bills aren't too productive running out of a "regular" personnel group, with two receivers and a true fullback in the game. They used it against the Jets and Carolina and averaged just 2.8 yards a carry on 24 attempts out of that group.

If the Bills could improve their third-and-short conversions, it would give them a better chance to run teams out of the Cover-2 defense. The run stats could get better: Seven of the next eight foes rank 14th or worse against the run.
 
I was hoping the Carolina game was the beginning of a trend of giving Lynch a much higher % of the carries, but it regressed right back to an even split the next week.Jackson has certainly done enough to earn a nice role in the offense and keep Lynch fresh, but why the Bills coaches wouldn't want a 70/30 split in favor of Lynch is beyond me. I have to assume it has to do with his attitude, off the field stuff, or other things that don't take place on the field on Sundays.
Or, it's because the coaches feel that playing both Lynch and Jackson gives them a better shot at winning, regardless of whether or not we feel that's correct.
 
I was hoping the Carolina game was the beginning of a trend of giving Lynch a much higher % of the carries, but it regressed right back to an even split the next week.Jackson has certainly done enough to earn a nice role in the offense and keep Lynch fresh, but why the Bills coaches wouldn't want a 70/30 split in favor of Lynch is beyond me. I have to assume it has to do with his attitude, off the field stuff, or other things that don't take place on the field on Sundays.
Or, it's because the coaches feel that playing both Lynch and Jackson gives them a better shot at winning, regardless of whether or not we feel that's correct.
I personally don't think that mix helps the team win. I have both - I thought that they should have left Fred Jackson with the majority of the carries after his hot start. Now, I would say go heavy with Lynch. I think it's always better to let a single guy get more carries. That RB will get in a groove, get a feel for the game. If you keep switching them out, none of them will be able to get in that groove OR start to beat down the defense, Cedric Benson-style. To me, it's not a fantasy but a real-life fact that letting a single RB get going benefits the team more.
 
Could there be any change with Jauron gone? Chase seems to think there might be an uptick, what do you guys think?
Same O-line, same coordinator, same offense, just with a new head coach.I can't see them all of a sudden deciding to drop Fred Jackson, who has been arguably the better back this season, to the bench immediately because Perry Fewell is now the coach. ;)
 
Could there be any change with Jauron gone? Chase seems to think there might be an uptick, what do you guys think?
Same O-line, same coordinator, same offense, just with a new head coach.I can't see them all of a sudden deciding to drop Fred Jackson, who has been arguably the better back this season, to the bench immediately because Perry Fewell is now the coach. ;)
So carries will stay similarly distributed then you think?
 
Could there be any change with Jauron gone? Chase seems to think there might be an uptick, what do you guys think?
Same O-line, same coordinator, same offense, just with a new head coach.I can't see them all of a sudden deciding to drop Fred Jackson, who has been arguably the better back this season, to the bench immediately because Perry Fewell is now the coach. ;)
So carries will stay similarly distributed then you think?
That's what I would expect....maybe they will each see more touches, but I can't see them just dropping either of them to the bench to give the other one 25+ touches. But I'm just a Bills fan, I don't :know: any information that you don't...
 
Could there be any change with Jauron gone? Chase seems to think there might be an uptick, what do you guys think?
Same O-line, same coordinator, same offense, just with a new head coach.I can't see them all of a sudden deciding to drop Fred Jackson, who has been arguably the better back this season, to the bench immediately because Perry Fewell is now the coach. :wall:
So carries will stay similarly distributed then you think?
That's what I would expect....maybe they will each see more touches, but I can't see them just dropping either of them to the bench to give the other one 25+ touches. But I'm just a Bills fan, I don't :know: any information that you don't...
Lol, I am sureyou do. thanks for this.
 
Lol, I am sureyou do. thanks for this.
Well, I could be completely wrong, but I would be very surprised to see them ditch the offense they've been running with (no matter how ineffective it's been) and just benching either Lynch or Jackson (ETA: because neither of them is at fault. If anything, they're not getting the ball enough - I don't think anyone can really argue that either Lynch or Jackson should be getting LESS touches than they're currently getting. I might think Lynch is a bit overrated, but put him behind a good OL and he'd be great). They'd be foolish to - the two of them are the biggest playmakers the Bills have, except for maybe Evans. Like I said, maybe they make it a point to get each of them a few more touches, bumping them up to maybe 15-20 each per game....but with an offense that struggles to stay on the field, I'm not sure that will happen.
 
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This week's game was tied in the fourth quarter. Lynch got a total of 9 carries and Jackson got 8, while Trent freaking Edwards threw 28 passes.

The game before that, Buffalo led the entire game until the fourth quarter. Lynch got a total of 9 carries and Jackson got 8, while Ryan freaking Fitzpatrick threw 23 passes.

I think it's safe to say that Lynch will get more carries without Jauron there. Jackson may get more carries, too.

 
I can't help but think this will cause an uptick...I'm not confident it will be much of one though. I'm more interested to see who the qb is going to be.

 

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