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Martavis Bryant ONE YEAR SUSPENSION (1 Viewer)

(RotoworldMartavis Bryant's indefinite suspension is the result of failing six drug tests. Analysis: In other words, the NFL makes you work really hard to earn a year-long ban. Two of Bryant's "fails" were no-shows, which is treated as a straight fail for obvious reasons. Bryant has checked into rehab, while his agent says he's battling depression. In a Monday statement, Steelers GM Kevin Colbert hinted the team plans to hold onto Bryant through his suspension.

 
Per Febuary ADP


Overall

1



Pos

WR



Name

Odell Beckham Jr.



Age

23



ADP

1.33



2


WR


Antonio Brown


27


2.67


3


WR


Julio Jones


26


2.83


4


WR


DeAndre Hopkins


23


3.5


5


WR


Amari Cooper


21


6.5


6


WR


Allen Robinson


22


6.83


8


WR


AJ Green


27


8.17


10


WR


Dez Bryant


27


11.17


11


WR


Mike Evans


22


11.67


13


WR


Demaryius Thomas


28


13.17


14


WR


Alshon Jeffery


25


14.67


15


WR


Sammy Watkins


22


15


16


WR


Keenan Allen


23


16.17


17


WR


Brandin Cooks


22


18.17


18


WR


Randall Cobb


25


20.17


19


WR


Martavis Bryant


24


20.33


22


WR


Jarvis Landry


23


25.67


24


WR


Jordan Matthews


23


26.33


25


WR


TY Hilton


26


26.83


28


WR


Calvin Johnson


30


30.83


29


WR


Devante Parker


22


31


31


WR


Donte Moncrief


22


34.17


32


WR


Julian Edelman


29


35.33


33


WR


Kevin White


22


35.83


35


WR


Kelvin Benjamin


24


36.83


38


WR


Michael Floyd


26


39


39


WR


Dorial Green-Beckham


22


40.33


40


WR


Jeremy Maclin


27


41.67


41


WR


Jordy Nelson


30


41.67


42


WR


Brandon Marshall


31


42.83


43


WR


Emmanuel Sanders


28


44


45


WR


Allen Hurns


24


45.5


46


WR


John Brown


25


45.67


52


WR


Stefon Diggs


22


50.83


55


WR


Josh Gordon


24


55.67


59


WR


Eric Decker


28


60


61


WR


Tyler Lockett


22


60.67


63


WR


Breshad Perriman


20


63.5


65


WR


Golden Tate


27


66.67


69


WR


Devin Funchess


21


70.67


73


WR


Davante Adams


23


73.5


74


WR


Nelson Agholor


22


74.67


75


WR


Doug Baldwin


27


74.83

I've italicized the WRs I think I'd take over Bryant in a startup..  It gets closer to 39 than you think. 
Geez, buy Jordy at that price.

 
JohnnyU said:
Pot shouldn't be illegal.  Hell, alcohol is a million times worse on your body and your actions.  The worst thing Bryant probably does is miss his exit, whereas a drunk may kill you in a head on collision.  Some states have come to their senses, so how long will it be before the NFL does?
Do we know for sure it was just pot? 

 
Seems odd then. All of the pro pot crowd insist it isn't addictive. What would he be going to treatment for? 
While I think it is true that pot is not physically addictive I do think that some people can become dependent on it (or at least think they are), much like alcohol.

In Bryant's case he clearly has a problem when he would risk his career and millions of dollars over pot.

 
Seems odd then. All of the pro pot crowd insist it isn't addictive. What would he be going to treatment for? 
Could be depression.  The suspension wasn't even for positive results, it was for missing tests.  That's very indicative of depression.  Lack of awareness or caring of deadlines or consequences of missing them is a classic symptom.  I've got a lot of personal experience with depression, and it's bizarre to see what a person can deteriorate into.  If this is truly what he needs, I hope he gets it and is successful.

Of course it could be for public sympathy.  He's got a big PR issue now.  The suspension is a done deal, that's not getting undone, so the best course of action these days is to start rebuilding the image immediately.  A year from now he'll be able to say "I'm all better now thanks to rehab!" and then post a bunch of Instagrams and vines of him jumping real high and reading from an inspirational calendar.  We just don't really know.

 
Could be depression.  The suspension wasn't even for positive results, it was for missing tests.  That's very indicative of depression.  Lack of awareness or caring of deadlines or consequences of missing them is a classic symptom.  I've got a lot of personal experience with depression, and it's bizarre to see what a person can deteriorate into.  If this is truly what he needs, I hope he gets it and is successful.

Of course it could be for public sympathy.  He's got a big PR issue now.  The suspension is a done deal, that's not getting undone, so the best course of action these days is to start rebuilding the image immediately.  A year from now he'll be able to say "I'm all better now thanks to rehab!" and then post a bunch of Instagrams and vines of him jumping real high and reading from an inspirational calendar.  We just don't really know.
Im pretty sure he failed four tests and didnt show for two. 

Of course, i hope he gets any help he might need. 

 
You're kind of splitting hairs but w/e - I was referring to the most recent jump from 4 games to indefinite suspension. 

 
Of course it could be for public sympathy.  He's got a big PR issue now.  
Sure could be.  I won't minimize mental health.  Get well, Martavius.

But a cynical person sure can look at the way the media refers to a guy when he says he 's being treated for addiction or depression.  Suddenly, everyone is saying, gosh, I hope gets the help he needs.  Not too many people saying that about Gordon.

 
Of course it could be for public sympathy.  He's got a big PR issue now.  
Sure could be.  I won't minimize mental health.  Get well, Martavius.

But a cynical person sure can look at the way the media refers to a guy when he says he 's being treated for addiction or depression.  Suddenly, everyone is saying, gosh, I hope gets the help he needs.  Not too many people saying that about Gordon.
I remember a lot of football players, both current and ex-nfl players, that urged Josh Gordon to seek professional help. Cris Carter was very vocal about it, because he understands what it is like to have a substance abuse problem.

 
I remember a lot of football players, both current and ex-nfl players, that urged Josh Gordon to seek professional help. Cris Carter was very vocal about it, because he understands what it is like to have a substance abuse problem.
Soulfly talked him out of it though by telling him he's fine and don't listen to all the haters.

 
Sure could be.  I won't minimize mental health.  Get well, Martavius.

But a cynical person sure can look at the way the media refers to a guy when he says he 's being treated for addiction or depression.  Suddenly, everyone is saying, gosh, I hope gets the help he needs.  Not too many people saying that about Gordon.
The real tragedy is that we can't know because it's been abused in the past.  Too many people use it as a PR tool to placate the public perception.  As I said, if it's real I hope he gets what he needs.  I've been through it with a loved one, still am. 

 
JohnnyU said:
Pot shouldn't be illegal.  Hell, alcohol is a million times worse on your body and your actions.  The worst thing Bryant probably does is miss his exit, whereas a drunk may kill you in a head on collision.  Some states have come to their senses, so how long will it be before the NFL does?
Can't imagine the NFL will accept it before the Federal Gov't approves it.  Even in states that have legalized it for medical and recreational use, companies that have federal contracts test employees for use.

 
I was going to come in here and point out that the NHL allows pot and recreational other drugs in their policy. Apparently, the NHL has also quickly developed quite the cocaine problem. I hope the NFL comes to its senses soon about pot, but please the last thing the NFL needs is Vontaze Burfict on cocaine. 

 
I was going to come in here and point out that the NHL allows pot and recreational other drugs in their policy. Apparently, the NHL has also quickly developed quite the cocaine problem. I hope the NFL comes to its senses soon about pot, but please the last thing the NFL needs is Vontaze Burfict on cocaine. 
I for one wouldn't mind seeing Lawrence Taylor 2.0

 
Seems odd then. All of the pro pot crowd insist it isn't addictive. What would he be going to treatment for? 
Anything and everything CAN be addictive.  Pot is addictive to some like gambling, sex, or one of the many other things that are not physically addictive. 

I would easily say a good chunk of the people who are "addicted" to pot have depression or some other type of mental illness. 

On a side note, and maybe I just feel this way as a mental health professional, but the way people lump those with mental illness all together into one giant melting pot is amazing to me. 

 
Reading through this thread--one thing that stands out to me is the take that pot should be legal--and the NFL shouldn't punish for it.  I would have zero problem with the government legalizing pot. However--that is a completely separate issue.  From my understanding--the NFL's substance abuse policy was collectively bargained--which means that the players and their representation collectively negotiated and agreed with the NFL to ban marijuana.   I imagine there are probably lots of legal substances (medications..etc) that are also on the NFL's banned substance list.   I guess the point I'm trying to make is that even if a state or the federal government legalizes pot--it might not mean anything until the NFL and the players union collectively bargains to take it off of their banned substance list.

 
I was going to come in here and point out that the NHL allows pot and recreational other drugs in their policy. Apparently, the NHL has also quickly developed quite the cocaine problem. I hope the NFL comes to its senses soon about pot, but please the last thing the NFL needs is Vontaze Burfict on cocaine. 
Worked for LT.  :shrug:

:excited:

 
From Rotoworld:

Appearing Wednesday at the Combine, Steelers GM Kevin Colbert spoke about suspended WR Martavis Bryant in the past tense.
It doesn't mean the Steelers have moved on from Bryant, but Colbert is the second member of Pittsburgh's front office to infer the team isn't counting on Bryant for 2017. "Martavis was a great asset to us when he was available," Colbert said. In late January, president Art Rooney II replied, "I'm not sure at this point you can count on him" when asked about Bryant, adding Martavis still had "a ways to go" to become a serious candidate for NFL reinstatement.
 
I saw a video of him workingout and explaining how he's grownup now. Talked about embarrassing his mom with all his off-the-field issues.

We shall see......or maybe not!

Tex

 
I saw a video of him workingout and explaining how he's grownup now. Talked about embarrassing his mom with all his off-the-field issues.

We shall see......or maybe not!

Tex
Is that the same video where he says he doesn't have to apologize to anyone on the team after lying to them all, because they're all men?  It doesn't seem like he's matured all that much.  I really want him back on the team since he's such a talented player (and on my dynasty team), but he's beginning to seem like Gordon 2.0.  He says he messed up, and is turning things around, but at his core he's still putting himself in poor situations to get reinstated.  Living just outside of Vegas isn't the best idea for a person in recovery?

 
Is that the same video where he says he doesn't have to apologize to anyone on the team after lying to them all, because they're all men?  It doesn't seem like he's matured all that much.  I really want him back on the team since he's such a talented player (and on my dynasty team), but he's beginning to seem like Gordon 2.0.  He says he messed up, and is turning things around, but at his core he's still putting himself in poor situations to get reinstated.  Living just outside of Vegas isn't the best idea for a person in recovery?
I always laugh when a player gets busted and then they say, "Oh I'm mature now." 

It's the same thing my 3 year old daughter says when she's being naughty and I take something away from her, "I'm being a good girl now." yeah, we'll see how long that lasts. 

If you've been the same way all your life and then you're busted pretty bad for something, suddenly you're changed? After a month? A year? Maybe he did a lot of soul searching within the last year but regardless, don't say you've grown up and then come up with some childish excuse not to apologize and own up to your mistake. 

 
Is that the same video where he says he doesn't have to apologize to anyone on the team after lying to them all, because they're all men?  It doesn't seem like he's matured all that much.  I really want him back on the team since he's such a talented player (and on my dynasty team), but he's beginning to seem like Gordon 2.0.  He says he messed up, and is turning things around, but at his core he's still putting himself in poor situations to get reinstated.  Living just outside of Vegas isn't the best idea for a person in recovery?
No, this was more recent. The NFL Network interviewed him right before the Super Bowl. He hired someone to train him. He talked about how he never trained before but now he's workingout. He seemed sincere but you never know.

Tex

 
No, this was more recent. The NFL Network interviewed him right before the Super Bowl. He hired someone to train him. He talked about how he never trained before but now he's workingout. He seemed sincere but you never know.

Tex
I would bet on Gordon making it before Bryant. That is not saying much though. Really did not like the sound of the video steelers1080 was referring to.

 
I would bet on Gordon making it before Bryant. That is not saying much though. Really did not like the sound of the video steelers1080 was referring to.
You might be right. He actually had me convinced though. Only time will tell. I don't own him but his owner has been trying to trade him to me. He's talented but the odds are against him for sure.

Tex

 
Is that the same video where he says he doesn't have to apologize to anyone on the team after lying to them all, because they're all men?  It doesn't seem like he's matured all that much.  I really want him back on the team since he's such a talented player (and on my dynasty team), but he's beginning to seem like Gordon 2.0.  He says he messed up, and is turning things around, but at his core he's still putting himself in poor situations to get reinstated.  Living just outside of Vegas isn't the best idea for a person in recovery?
Or you can look at it this way, with temptation on his doorstep for a year now, he has gotten into no trouble at all. Quite the test Vegas would be and so far he has passed that test.

 
Or you can look at it this way, with temptation on his doorstep for a year now, he has gotten into no trouble at all. Quite the test Vegas would be and so far he has passed that test.
Maybe but I recall an old interview from the back in the 90's with the late Ken Caminiti who was battling alcohol issues at the time I believe.  Someone asked him what was the city he struggled with the most to stay sober and they tried to lead him by throwing out suggestions like LA or NY. Ken said nope, Pittsburgh was the most difficult because there was nothing else to do.

 
When players apply for reinstatement, the press is always quick to jump on the 60 day time frame for the league to make a decision. In reality, the 60 day clock doesn't start until the league is satisfied that they have all the information they require and there is documented proof that the suspended player has conformed to the rules of the substance abuse program and met all the provisions to be reinstated. If the league requests more information or has follow up concerns, the 60 day time line will go right out the window  

Bryant very well could be in line to be reinstated, but Rotoworld stating that the 60 day window is done as reason for a decision coming any minute is not really how the process works. 

 
When players apply for reinstatement, the press is always quick to jump on the 60 day time frame for the league to make a decision. In reality, the 60 day clock doesn't start until the league is satisfied that they have all the information they require and there is documented proof that the suspended player has conformed to the rules of the substance abuse program and met all the provisions to be reinstated. If the league requests more information or has follow up concerns, the 60 day time line will go right out the window  

Bryant very well could be in line to be reinstated, but Rotoworld stating that the 60 day window is done as reason for a decision coming any minute is not really how the process works. 
 They have 60 days to make a decision from Jan 28, 2017.  A decision is due today.

 
 They have 60 days to make a decision from Jan 28, 2017.  A decision is due today.
I just explained how it works. The league has never adhered to the 60 day "rule" with the NFLPA, for all the reasons I just listed. In fact, the league has frequently gone WAY OVER 60 days. It's a rule on the books but one that has not been followed. As I said, the leagues view on this is that they have 60 days until there is a fully completed reinstatement application per their standards. That's what makes the time line hard to predict.

 
I just explained how it works. The league has never adhered to the 60 day "rule" with the NFLPA, for all the reasons I just listed. In fact, the league has frequently gone WAY OVER 60 days. It's a rule on the books but one that has not been followed. As I said, the leagues view on this is that they have 60 days until there is a fully completed reinstatement application per their standards. That's what makes the time line hard to predict.
From everything I've read he's done what he's supposed to do and more. I expect a decision to come very soon and it should be positive for Bryant.

 
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From everything I've read he's done what he's supposed to do. I expect a decision to come very soon and it should be positive for Bryant.
As I said, he Bryant could very well be reinstated soon and has done what he has supposed to. It's the "they need to announce it by today" part that Rotoworld was suggesting that is what I had an issue with. Even they have backed off that viewpoint . . .

"The Houston Chronicle's Aaron Wilson confirms suspended WR Martavis Bryant is expected to be reinstated.

A previous report said Bryant's return is imminent. Bryant will be 60 days removed from applying for reinstatement this week. It sounds like there's still not a firm timetable on when a decision will be announced, but all signs point to him getting reinstated."

 
As I said, he Bryant could very well be reinstated soon and has done what he has supposed to. It's the "they need to announce it by today" part that Rotoworld was suggesting that is what I had an issue with. Even they have backed off that viewpoint . . .

"The Houston Chronicle's Aaron Wilson confirms suspended WR Martavis Bryant is expected to be reinstated.

A previous report said Bryant's return is imminent. Bryant will be 60 days removed from applying for reinstatement this week. It sounds like there's still not a firm timetable on when a decision will be announced, but all signs point to him getting reinstated."
I don't really care whether he gets reinstated today, tomorrow, or even next week.  I do think it's coming and will be positive.

 

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