Basically she's Thor, iron Man, and black widow if they somehow had a baby.And honestly what exactly is her powers, they made a big deal about how she got them and forgetting her past but they didnt really go into detail about what it was exactly.
go on...Agent Cater? No, I don't think so. Here is what one time line states
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Post-wormhole, the Tesseract burns through the aircraft and falls into ocean, where it is later retrieved by Howard Stark while searching for Rogers. At some point, between then and 1989, the Tesseract finds itself at Project PEGASUS, a joint effort by NASA and the US Air Force to study the Tesseract. We’ll have to wait until the next Marvel prequel to know what happened to the Tesseract during the 45-year gap in MCU history.
What's the rule here? I presumed anyone in this thread now had either seen it or wants the spoilersHow do we do spoiler tags again? I don't want to put a question in open text.
I would happily watch Linda Carter run all day.
I'd watch.Basically she's Thor, iron Man, and black widow if they somehow had a baby.
She is a highly trained assassin that has some high tech toys to assist her subduing people. No special powers beyond her horrific training upbringing that she endured.Still working on my rewatching of all movies in order. A question came to mind while watching Civil War - is Black Widow technically a super hero? Aside from being a bada## in hand to hand combat and pretty much all things spy/espionage related, does she have any special "super" abilities?
You have characters that are "super" because of their suits - Ironman, War Machine, Falcon (maybe even Antman). Take off the suits and they're just humans. Then you have guys who have been genetically modified or enhanced, like Cap or Spiderman, maybe Hulk. Then you've got your guys like Thor, Star-Lord, ect who have "out of this world" powers. Where does Black Widow fall?
she falls same level as Hawkeye imo.. Where does Black Widow fall?
Yeah, him too - but I can see never missing a target as being a super power. He's just not quite as big of a character in the series, but close.she falls same level as Hawkeye imo.
I think I agree with all of this - although I enjoyed the Thor movies more than most. I just like the world it has. None of them have been bad to me at all.MCU Tiered Update:
Absolutely Loved:
Really Liked:
- Avengers
- GotG
- Iron Man
- Infinity War
- Cap 3 Civil War
- Cap 2 Winter Soldier
- A2 Ultron
- GotG 2
Still Good:
- Black Panther
- Dr. Strange
- Captain Marvel
- Thor Ragnarok
- Spiderman Homecoming
- Ant-Man
- Ant-Man and the Wasp
Just OK:
- Thor 2
- Cap
- Thor
- IM2
Stinker:
- IM3
- Hulk
N/A
Sure, me too. I'd also watch the old Hulk series with Bill Bixby. But it's not the Hulk I'm interested in seeing in the MCU.I would happily watch Linda Carter run all day.
I had also made that comment upthread, because I agree that the running was distractingly bad. No reason they couldn't have fixed that, even if they needed to use a body double. The fighting scenes were pretty good (although a little quickly cut for my taste).Yep, his comment was directed at me. I didn't have "an obligation" to find something wrong with the film. I really liked it. I still think an Emily Blunt would have done a better job based on prior performances, but I think Larson was fine.
The running scenes as she was escaping were distractingly bad. But again overall, I enjoyed the movie.
What scene was this weird running in? I don't recall any weird running scenes, but it has been mentioned multiple times so it just has me wondering.I had also made that comment upthread, because I agree that the running was distractingly bad. No reason they couldn't have fixed that, even if they needed to use a body double. The fighting scenes were pretty good (although a little quickly cut for my taste).
I think it was on the skrulls ship, although she looked fine running through the streets when she first got to Earth...What scene was this weird running in? I don't recall any weird running scenes, but it has been mentioned multiple times so it just has me wondering.
I think she has a vagina. That should help.Absolutely outstanding movie. I’m a tad worried that she has hit Superman mode, where she’s absolutely unstoppable...but if she’s only powered by one stone, and Thanos has them all...she should still be overmatched (requiring help of others)
So what you are saying that in 2019 she is invincible.I think she has a vagina. That should help.
she was injected with the Russians' version of Cap's super-soldier serum. her abilities are more than just training. she's Bucky-level.She is a highly trained assassin that has some high tech toys to assist her subduing people. No special powers beyond her horrific training upbringing that she endured.
Did I miss something?Two quick spoilerish questions about CM:
How does Carol Danvers look the same age 20 years later and where can I get some of that elixir for my wife?
where did 20 come from? I thought she was on the Kree planet for 6?
How does the space stone not kill her as a regular human being? She had not yet had her Kree transfusion at the point of the movie.
When does she come in contact before getting her powers?
She was? I don't remember that in the MCU. Didn't see it in the wiki either.she was injected with the Russians' version of Cap's super-soldier serum. her abilities are more than just training. she's Bucky-level.
The power she has came from the space stone power core being blow up upon her crash. The Kree took away their powers from her and all she is using is her powers received from the Tesseract by movie's end.Did I miss something?
Is this from the comics because it is not in the MCU...she was injected with the Russians' version of Cap's super-soldier serum. her abilities are more than just training. she's Bucky-level.
I guess we can assume that the Tesseract is giving her elongated life.The power she has came from the space stone power core being blow up upon her crash. The Kree took away their powers from her and all she is using is her powers received from the Tesseract by movie's end.
20 years later is the post credit scene where she hasn't aged a day.
They haven't expressly stated in in the MCU, but it's in the comics. If you look at Marvel.com, they say this for the "on screen profile":She was? I don't remember that in the MCU. Didn't see it in the wiki either.
They say this for the "comics" profile:Exhibiting no super human abilities, the Black Widow boasts ultimate human levels of strength, agility, and stamina.
Not really any difference between "ultimate human levels" and "peak human strength and stamina." Pretty sure you can assume in her time in the Red Room they bio-engineered her. Why wouldn't they have?Trained at a facility called the Red Room, Natasha was also enhanced with the Soviets’ version of the Super-Soldier serum, gifting her with peak human strength and stamina, as well as resistance to disease and slowed-down aging.
Thanks for clarifyingThe power she has came from the space stone power core being blow up upon her crash. The Kree took away their powers from her and all she is using is her powers received from the Tesseract by movie's end.
20 years later is the post credit scene where she hasn't aged a day.
Could it have to do with terrigen mist like in AoS? Is she an inhuman maybe?Thanks for clarifying
Didn't she absorb the blast from the core before the Kree gave her some? The blast should have killed her but it made her super, like the mind stone did the twins. She was also given Kree blood after the blast and they couldnt take that away, which may have helped?
I would guess the space stone has something to do with it.
I didn't think she had any powers from the Kree. It all came from the blast at the crash site, and the Kree lied to her that they gave her power. They limited her powers with the glowing macguffin on her neck.The Big Guy said:The power she has came from the space stone power core being blow up upon her crash. The Kree took away their powers from her and all she is using is her powers received from the Tesseract by movie's end.
20 years later is the post credit scene where she hasn't aged a day.
I mean, Bruce Banner should have died from the gamma radiation he absorbed, but he's the Hulk instead. Danvers absorbed the power instead of being killed by it.B Maverick said:Thanks for clarifying
Didn't she absorb the blast from the core before the Kree gave her some? The blast should have killed her but it made her super, like the mind stone did the twins. She was also given Kree blood after the blast and they couldnt take that away, which may have helped?
I would guess the space stone has something to do with it.
Oh that's SO unrealistic.I mean, Bruce Banner should have died from the gamma radiation he absorbed, but he's the Hulk instead. Danvers absorbed the power instead of being killed by it.
This is the closest thing that I could come up with too. And it wasn't direct contact with the Tesseract until later in the movie, after she has transformed or mutated into her super self, so we can go with this thought.I mean, Bruce Banner should have died from the gamma radiation he absorbed, but he's the Hulk instead. Danvers absorbed the power instead of being killed by it.
Glad we got that settled.This is the closest thing that I could come up with too. And it wasn't direct contact with the Tesseract until later in the movie, after she has transformed or mutated into her super self, so we can go with this thought.
Hmm, I did not know that-fish- said:she was injected with the Russians' version of Cap's super-soldier serum. her abilities are more than just training. she's Bucky-level.
Hotness is a super powermatttyl said:. Where does Black Widow fall?
The Big Guy said:She is a highly trained assassin that has some high tech toys to assist her subduing people. No special powers beyond her horrific training upbringing that she endured.
She asked the same for youThe Big Guy said:Two quick spoilerish questions about CM:
How does Carol Danvers look the same age 20 years later and where can I get some of that elixir for my wife?
How does the space stone not kill her as a regular human being? She had not yet had her Kree transfusion at the point of the movie.
Not really part of the MCU though. She's bad### but not super soldier caliber. No healing, no super strength, she's right there with Hawkeye.Hmm, I did not know that
They didn't really get into a real fight, she kept getting out of it iirc.Not really part of the MCU though. She's bad### but not super soldier caliber. No healing, no super strength, she's right there with Hawkeye.
Didn't the Winter Soldier wipe the floor with her in Cap 2?
-fish- said:They haven't expressly stated in in the MCU, but it's in the comics. If you look at Marvel.com, they say this for the "on screen profile":
They say this for the "comics" profile:
Not really any difference between "ultimate human levels" and "peak human strength and stamina." Pretty sure you can assume in her time in the Red Room they bio-engineered her. Why wouldn't they have?
ETA: supposedly the BW movie is set around 2000, so I imagine that they'll resolve this question in her backstory.
Yes, increased healing. Immune to most forms of disease or viruses.No healing,
Black Widow in the MCU? When was that shown?Yes, increased healing. Immune to most forms of disease or viruses.
This is the type of nerdy discussion I expect from this thread.I don't think this theory really holds up. Look at Infinity War. They make a point of showing Cap and Black Panther freakishly pull ahead of the pack of rushing warriors, nearly inhuman leaps included. The implication being that the Super Soldier serum is pretty equivalent to the special magic flower that Black Panther ingests. And of course we've seen Winter Soldier stand toe to toe with BP and Cap, although he fell behind both in that sprint. So he's probably a tier behind in that regard.
We've never seen Black Widow do anything that could be interpreted as superhuman in terms of athletic feats, the way Cap and BP did in Infinity War--her reflexes and agility, as well as her martial skills, are simply insane. So maybe it's manifesting differently--but imo they don't show her doing things like Cap and BP for a reason. She and Hawkeye are the absolute peak of normal human ability and physicality, but they're still just vanilla humans. Which in itself makes them interesting and badass heroes.
Now that's a movie I want to see if it's done well. Espionage and super spies. With a smoking red head (so what I'd she's not natural, we can imagine).-fish- said:They haven't expressly stated in in the MCU, but it's in the comics. If you look at Marvel.com, they say this for the "on screen profile":
They say this for the "comics" profile:
Not really any difference between "ultimate human levels" and "peak human strength and stamina." Pretty sure you can assume in her time in the Red Room they bio-engineered her. Why wouldn't they have?
ETA: supposedly the BW movie is set around 2000, so I imagine that they'll resolve this question in her backstory.
You say he's off the deep end and then you say this? Pot, meet kettle.Remember alt-righters when you hate masturbate to Brie Larson change it up to alita the battle angel at the last second so she doesn’t get credit and you don’t feel guilty.
This was 4 days ago genius. You’re the only one still talking about it.You say he's off the deep end and then you say this? Pot, meet kettle.
Can we get back to Marvel and let the circle jerk of nobody-convincing-the other-side-of-anything die? Great, thanks. I'll hang up and listen.
She got 30 feet in the air because an actual super soldier launched her 30 feet in the air.This is the type of nerdy discussion I expect from this thread.
I agree with this guy. Catching a flying alien sled one-handed after launching 30 feet in the air is a little more than martial arts training.
Plus, it would be a waste to train her up as a superspy in the Red Room, alter her memories and not use the version of the serum in their possession...especially when they did it in the comics. You may end up being right, but I'd be willing to bet her backstory in the solo movie will reveal some bio-engineering.
of course this is a better example and damn me for not thinking of it and going with the twins. Guess i just had the Scarlett Witch on my mind, I do her soI mean, Bruce Banner should have died from the gamma radiation he absorbed, but he's the Hulk instead. Danvers absorbed the power instead of being killed by it.
If this is set in 2000, she'd be what, 11?Now that's a movie I want to see if it's done well. Espionage and super spies. With a smoking red head (so what I'd she's not natural, we can imagine).
According to MCU wiki, she'd be 16. So set it in 2004-05. If we consider Iron Man to be 2008, plenty of time for set up.If this is set in 2000, she'd be what, 11?
Feel better? Why so bitter? Seriously. Decaf.This was 4 days ago genius. You’re the only one still talking about it.
According to wikipedia:Isn't there going to be at least a year between Spiderman 2 and the next Marvel movie? And we're not even sure what the next film after S2 is going to be. It was supposed to be GotG 3 but that's in limbo (or limbo adjacent) so what's it going to be?
Black Panther 2, Black Widow & Doctor Strange 2 seem the most likely options. Maybe finally work in an MCU Fantastic Four film? Too soon to come up with an MCU X-Men film.