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[Bankerguy]

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Colts | Harrison to be let go soon

Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:11:29 -0800 Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Indianapolis Colts are expected to let WR Marvin Harrison go soon. Releasing Harrison would free up $7 million in salary cap space.

 

[Ripleys]

if I'm Jacksonville, SF, Chicago, or Tennessee, I'd pick him up immediately.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Expect him to re-sign with Indy, not like anyone else is going to offer him much more money.

 

[gianmarco]

Holt to Indy???

 

[LBH]

anybody think the Colts might give Garcon or Hall a chance to start?

 

[djcolts]

anybody think the Colts might give Garcon or Hall a chance to start?

Garcon - maybe, depends on the draft. Hall - no way. "Start" meaning the 3rd WR at best.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

It's hard to get an idea of what A.Gonzalez might put up if Harrison is gone. I've seen people predict great numbers (WR2) and some that say his numbers won't be affected much by Harrisons departure.

I have him in several leagues and the offers are starting to roll in. I am one of the ones that thinks he will put up WR 2 numbers if Harrison is gone. But I also think Harrison gets cut, resigns with the Colts and plays for one or two more years.

The one thing I like is that he sits right next to Manning after every series and seems to pick his brain. I think Gonzo has the desire and a great QB to be a very good WR.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

It's hard to get an idea of what A.Gonzalez might put up if Harrison is gone. I've seen people predict great numbers (WR2) and some that say his numbers won't be affected much by Harrisons departure. I have him in several leagues and the offers are starting to roll in. I am one of the ones that thinks he will put up WR 2 numbers if Harrison is gone. But I also think Harrison gets cut, resigns with the Colts and plays for one or two more years. The one thing I like is that he sits right next to Manning after every series and seems to pick his brain. I think Gonzo has the desire and a great QB to be a very good WR.

I think Marvin will retire, not resign with the Colts.

 

[NorrisB]

It's hard to get an idea of what A.Gonzalez might put up if Harrison is gone. I've seen people predict great numbers (WR2) and some that say his numbers won't be affected much by Harrisons departure. I have him in several leagues and the offers are starting to roll in. I am one of the ones that thinks he will put up WR 2 numbers if Harrison is gone. But I also think Harrison gets cut, resigns with the Colts and plays for one or two more years. The one thing I like is that he sits right next to Manning after every series and seems to pick his brain. I think Gonzo has the desire and a great QB to be a very good WR.

I think Marvin will retire, not resign with the Colts.

He's done

 

[trader jake]

I'm tempering any Anthony Gonzalez expectations. He's a decent wideout but he hasn't shown enough in his first two seasons to make me think he'll take a huge step up in his third season. Plenty will disagree and I'd be anxious to sell Gonzo if the offer was in the "top 15-20 WR" range. Catching passes from Manning almost guarantees that he won't suck but when he had the chance to put up big numbers last season he didn't really come through.

I think Dallas Clark was the player who benefited down the stretch and the player on the Colts offense I expect to outperform his ADP.

 

[jestertj]

Unless Gonzalez has the precision route running and surprising speed that Harrison once had and used to break people down with on the Stretch Play/play action, it's tough for me to assume he could put up 1000/8 like Harrison was automatic for.

 

[Tau837]

Regarding Gonzalez, my suspicion is that he primarily operated as the third WR on the field and the fourth passing option on the field, behind Wayne, Harrison, and Clark. I would think this means he has primarily faced the third or fourth weakest DB in coverage on a regular basis, and I also suspect he ran a high percentage of his routes from the slot, not from an outside WR spot. I suspect he will face a much greater challenge if he moves to the outside and has to face one of the top two coverage DBs on most plays. This is why I think many have low expectations.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

KC would be nice

 

[travdogg]

I'm tempering any Anthony Gonzalez expectations. He's a decent wideout but he hasn't shown enough in his first two seasons to make me think he'll take a huge step up in his third season. Plenty will disagree and I'd be anxious to sell Gonzo if the offer was in the "top 15-20 WR" range. Catching passes from Manning almost guarantees that he won't suck but when he had the chance to put up big numbers last season he didn't really come through.I think Dallas Clark was the player who benefited down the stretch and the player on the Colts offense I expect to outperform his ADP.

Wayne and Clark benefit more than Gonzalez does.I agree that Harrison's departure doesn't make Gonzalez a good WR2 yet. I need to see something from him. I think his value is very similar to a guy like Matt Jones except with a little more upside.I see Wayne as a top-5 WR with Marvin gone and Clark may very well be the #1 TE.As for Marvin, he had an excellent 1st ballot HOF career, and was a joy to watch for anyone who really payed attention to the WR position. I don't expect to see him on an NFL field again until he is honored by the Colts franchise. Great career, but I don't think his time was simply up and this move should really help the Colts.

 

[Buckeyedawgs]

Gonzales wasn;t getting playing time is why he didn't benefit. Now Harrison is gone he will be back on the field and get a good share of targets. I think all 3 will benefit but Gonzales should benefit the most as he will get tons more reps with Marv gone.

I doubt Dallas can stay healthy. Wayne should be back to 07 numbers. Gonzales should be above his rookie year numbers. Dallas, if he stays healthy could have his peak year. That's a big if!

 

[travdogg]

Gonzales wasn;t getting playing time is why he didn't benefit. Now Harrison is gone he will be back on the field and get a good share of targets. I think all 3 will benefit but Gonzales should benefit the most as he will get tons more reps with Marv gone. I doubt Dallas can stay healthy. Wayne should be back to 07 numbers. Gonzales should be above his rookie year numbers. Dallas, if he stays healthy could have his peak year. That's a big if!

So maybe something like:Wayne: 1,400-9Clark: 900-8Gonzalez: 900-5

 

[Yitbos69]

Eagles?

 

[kylechoffman]

Eagles?

Possibly...D Jackson is the burner they need, harrison could be a nice reception/ clutch catcher.. and if LJ can keep healthy (well actually if all players could stay healthy), it could work

 

[fridayfrenzy]

It's hard to get an idea of what A.Gonzalez might put up if Harrison is gone. I've seen people predict great numbers (WR2) and some that say his numbers won't be affected much by Harrisons departure. I have him in several leagues and the offers are starting to roll in. I am one of the ones that thinks he will put up WR 2 numbers if Harrison is gone. But I also think Harrison gets cut, resigns with the Colts and plays for one or two more years. The one thing I like is that he sits right next to Manning after every series and seems to pick his brain. I think Gonzo has the desire and a great QB to be a very good WR.

I think Marvin will retire, not resign with the Colts.

He's done

If Marvin wants to retire, then Indy won't just release him and make him go out like that.If Marvin is released, it is because he will play some more, whether it is in Indy or elsewhere. The Colts are going to talk it over with Harrison to find out what he wants to do before they just go ahead and kick him to the curb.

 

[gianmarco]

It's hard to get an idea of what A.Gonzalez might put up if Harrison is gone. I've seen people predict great numbers (WR2) and some that say his numbers won't be affected much by Harrisons departure. I have him in several leagues and the offers are starting to roll in. I am one of the ones that thinks he will put up WR 2 numbers if Harrison is gone. But I also think Harrison gets cut, resigns with the Colts and plays for one or two more years. The one thing I like is that he sits right next to Manning after every series and seems to pick his brain. I think Gonzo has the desire and a great QB to be a very good WR.

I think Marvin will retire, not resign with the Colts.

He's done

If Marvin wants to retire, then Indy won't just release him and make him go out like that.If Marvin is released, it is because he will play some more, whether it is in Indy or elsewhere. The Colts are going to talk it over with Harrison to find out what he wants to do before they just go ahead and kick him to the curb.

Finally a voice of reason.

 

[Warpig]

Uhhh...now the head coach (Caldwell) is gushing about how Marvin hasn't lost a step and is "the same Marvin he's always been". He re-signs with Indy and Gonz will be a WR3 for yet another year.

 

[az_prof]

I'm tempering any Anthony Gonzalez expectations. He's a decent wideout but he hasn't shown enough in his first two seasons to make me think he'll take a huge step up in his third season. Plenty will disagree and I'd be anxious to sell Gonzo if the offer was in the "top 15-20 WR" range. Catching passes from Manning almost guarantees that he won't suck but when he had the chance to put up big numbers last season he didn't really come through.I think Dallas Clark was the player who benefited down the stretch and the player on the Colts offense I expect to outperform his ADP.

I agree. Gonzo will contribute and be an ok fantasy WR3, but he isn't a stud. He has had opportunity with injuries and he hasn't proven to me that he can be a great WR. He strikes me as more of a possession WR who can be the second guy. Now for IND with Manning and Wayne, that may turn out to be 1100 yards and 80 receptions though...but I am not convinced yet. My guess would be closer to 900 yards and 65 receptions.

 

[NorrisB]

It's hard to get an idea of what A.Gonzalez might put up if Harrison is gone. I've seen people predict great numbers (WR2) and some that say his numbers won't be affected much by Harrisons departure. I have him in several leagues and the offers are starting to roll in. I am one of the ones that thinks he will put up WR 2 numbers if Harrison is gone. But I also think Harrison gets cut, resigns with the Colts and plays for one or two more years. The one thing I like is that he sits right next to Manning after every series and seems to pick his brain. I think Gonzo has the desire and a great QB to be a very good WR.

I think Marvin will retire, not resign with the Colts.

He's done

If Marvin wants to retire, then Indy won't just release him and make him go out like that.If Marvin is released, it is because he will play some more, whether it is in Indy or elsewhere. The Colts are going to talk it over with Harrison to find out what he wants to do before they just go ahead and kick him to the curb.

Finally a voice of reason.

He's done anyway you look at it. Its kinda sad actually some people just pining over the lost value. Just accept the fact that he's worthless and even if he doesnt retire he'll just be a wasted roster spot ala Eric Moulds, Isaac Bruce.

 

[zed2283]

Just my opinion, but I think Gonzalez would be very good with Harrison gone. He runs good routes, has good hands, and has more speed than most people think. I also think that (as someone posted earlier) he has worked and studied hard to become better and that he has earned Manning's trust.

 

[Miro Z]

Good point of Pro Football Talk, which is that given the cap hit that the Colts would take by releasing Marvin, it would make more financial sense for them to renegotiate his contract downwards... the question being if he would play ball.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Just my opinion, but I think Gonzalez would be very good with Harrison gone. He runs good routes, has good hands, and has more speed than most people think. I also think that (as someone posted earlier) he has worked and studied hard to become better and that he has earned Manning's trust.

Some people seem to forget most WRs don't just burst on the scene and have instant success. People throw around the "he sucks", "he hasn't done anything" way too quickly.The Colts drafted him in Round 1 for a reason and they've been pretty good talent evaluators.

 

[zed2283]

Just my opinion, but I think Gonzalez would be very good with Harrison gone. He runs good routes, has good hands, and has more speed than most people think. I also think that (as someone posted earlier) he has worked and studied hard to become better and that he has earned Manning's trust.

Some people seem to forget most WRs don't just burst on the scene and have instant success. People throw around the "he sucks", "he hasn't done anything" way too quickly.The Colts drafted him in Round 1 for a reason and they've been pretty good talent evaluators.

I imagine these people were saying the same thing about Reggie Wayne early on.

 

[Steel Dillo]

He's done anyway you look at it. Its kinda sad actually some people just pining over the lost value. Just accept the fact that he's worthless and even if he doesnt retire he'll just be a wasted roster spot ala Eric Moulds, Isaac Bruce.

Bruce put up 61/835/7 in a craptastic offense in SF this year. I don't think thats a wasted roster space.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

It's hard to get an idea of what A.Gonzalez might put up if Harrison is gone. I've seen people predict great numbers (WR2) and some that say his numbers won't be affected much by Harrisons departure. I have him in several leagues and the offers are starting to roll in. I am one of the ones that thinks he will put up WR 2 numbers if Harrison is gone. But I also think Harrison gets cut, resigns with the Colts and plays for one or two more years. The one thing I like is that he sits right next to Manning after every series and seems to pick his brain. I think Gonzo has the desire and a great QB to be a very good WR.

I think Marvin will retire, not resign with the Colts.

He's done

If Marvin wants to retire, then Indy won't just release him and make him go out like that.If Marvin is released, it is because he will play some more, whether it is in Indy or elsewhere. The Colts are going to talk it over with Harrison to find out what he wants to do before they just go ahead and kick him to the curb.

Finally a voice of reason.

He's done anyway you look at it. Its kinda sad actually some people just pining over the lost value. Just accept the fact that he's worthless and even if he doesnt retire he'll just be a wasted roster spot ala Eric Moulds, Isaac Bruce.

Isaac Bruce was the #30 WR in my league this year.I don't consider that worthless or a wasted spot at all.

 

[Adebisi]

Just my opinion, but I think Gonzalez would be very good with Harrison gone. He runs good routes, has good hands, and has more speed than most people think. I also think that (as someone posted earlier) he has worked and studied hard to become better and that he has earned Manning's trust.

I'm on board with this also. From what I've seen of Gonzalez, he's got quite a bit of talent.

 

[jrat169]

Just my opinion, but I think Gonzalez would be very good with Harrison gone. He runs good routes, has good hands, and has more speed than most people think. I also think that (as someone posted earlier) he has worked and studied hard to become better and that he has earned Manning's trust.

I'm on board with this also. From what I've seen of Gonzalez, he's got quite a bit of talent.

actually a nice fit for MARVIN would be behind Calvin Johnson in detroit... and to take this one step further.... DET should trade for B VOLEK Is Mike Furry's career over? Does anyone care? come on man 0-16 is terrible.... instead of drafting WRs that end up in jail or not in the NFL, go for someone who already has NFL exp.... lets face it MARVIN was part of if not the best QB to WR in history....

 

[Gopher State]

I did a quick search and didn't see anything on this.Colts | Harrison to be let go soonWed, 18 Feb 2009 18:11:29 -0800 Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Indianapolis Colts are expected to let WR Marvin Harrison go soon. Releasing Harrison would free up $7 million in salary cap space.

Wow, just wow

 

[leave a whisper]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3926922

Associated Press

INDIANAPOLIS -- Marvin Harrison's reluctance to take a pay cut could mark the end of his career in Indianapolis.

Earlier Sunday, Colts president Bill Polian told reporters at the NFL's annual scouting combine that the team was trying to rework Harrison's deal to lower his salary cap number from approximately $13.4 million, the highest number of any receiver in the NFL.

But a person familiar with the negotiations, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the team has not made an announcement, said Harrison "probably would not be interested in" taking a pay cut.

If Harrison decides against a pay cut, the only other options for the Colts would be to keep Harrison and his cap number or to release him.

 

[brutha]

FWIW

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/22/harrison-a...to-release-him/

hate to say it because he's been so great and all but good riddance. I don't buy he had no involvement in the shooting thing and if he thinks he's still worth top $ he's on drugs. ship him to his hometown (phi) I'm sure he'd be happy back there.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

its funny to say it but he could still fill a 'Brandon Stokely' role somewhere. he needs to find a competitive playoff with a near elite QB in need of a pure possession WR. someone that has clear vertical threat that he can be a compliment to. i'm sure he also like to stick it to the Colts as well............i imagine he could still be productive playing inside with a team like the Chargers. that would so burn the Colts

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

The best fit for Marvin is with the QB he's been with for the past decade. Why he wouldn't agree to a restructured deal with some incentives I don't understand.

If not in Indy, I'd retire. I don't see him surpassing 500 yards in a new offense. He needs Indy (if wanting to continue playing) a lot more than Indy needs him at this point.

 

[cstu]

its funny to say it but he could still fill a 'Brandon Stokely' role somewhere. he needs to find a competitive playoff with a near elite QB in need of a pure possession WR. someone that has clear vertical threat that he can be a compliment to. i'm sure he also like to stick it to the Colts as well............i imagine he could still be productive playing inside with a team like the Chargers. that would so burn the Colts

I'd love to see him with SD - at the right price of course. I think he's done as a major fantasy player but he could bring a lot of experience to the team.

 

[zed2283]

FWIW

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/22/harrison-a...to-release-him/

hate to say it because he's been so great and all but good riddance. I don't buy he had no involvement in the shooting thing and if he thinks he's still worth top $ he's on drugs. ship him to his hometown (phi) I'm sure he'd be happy back there.

Agree completely. Sounds like he's delusional. The best part for the Colts is that they don't come off looking like the bad guy.As a Gonzo owner, I am thrilled.

 

[djcolts]

The Colts are doing the right things - re-signing their young talented CB, and not overpaying for their veterans which will hurt their future cap. This will hurt next season (especially Saturday), but will allow the Colts to get another run going in the early 2010s before Peyton retires.

 

[brutha]

yes exactly. They might yet re-sign Saturday although I doubt it but I would think or hope one of their young guys (Justice or Pollack) will step up. They could nab one of the top WRs in this year's draft but they have much bigger needs and that would be a really, really stupid move. Maybe if one slides in the 2d. But fix that DL first and some improvement on the LB side wouldn't hurt.

 

[djcolts]

yes exactly. They might yet re-sign Saturday although I doubt it but I would think or hope one of their young guys (Justice or Pollack) will step up. They could nab one of the top WRs in this year's draft but they have much bigger needs and that would be a really, really stupid move. Maybe if one slides in the 2d. But fix that DL first and some improvement on the LB side wouldn't hurt.

I think WR is where they are likely going in round 1. The 1st round DTs won't be there when the Colts pick at #27 - I hope I'm wrong, but that is what I believe (Raji and Jerry will be long gone - no one else is a 1st round caliber DT). The Ohio State MLB (I don't know how to spell his name) will be long gone. I think the 1st pick will be on offense - basically because that is where the value will likely be this year. They'll pick defense with many of the rest of the picks in the draft.

 

[Yenrub]

Does he simply want out of Indy?

I ask because he doesn’t want to take a pay cut from the Colts but in order to play someplace else he is going to have to take a pay cut. Unless I am wrong but I don’t think anyone is going to sign him for his cap number which is around 13 million.

 

[Mikey16x]

After the two sides couldn’t agree on a restructured contract, WR Marvin Harrison asked the Colts to release him, a league source said Sunday night.

As much as the team would rather not — and Colts president Bill Polian acknowledged Sunday that it’s a tricky situation — Harrison is a luxury that Indianapolis can no longer afford.

Now that Harrison has declined to restructure his contract, the Colts have little choice but to let him and his $13.4 million salary-cap number go. It will mark the end of an illustrious 13-year career in Indianapolis, where Harrison and QB Peyton Manning formed one of the greatest quarterback-receiver tandems in NFL history.

Already the speculation about where Harrison will land is beginning. For starters, Harrison is determined to continue playing. A logical landing spot would be the receiver-needy Philadelphia Eagles, where Harrison would be reunited with his former Syracuse teammate, QB Donovan McNabb, while getting to play in the city where he lives.

per adam schefter http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/22/harrison-a...to-release-him/

 

[Bankerguy]

After the two sides couldn’t agree on a restructured contract, WR Marvin Harrison asked the Colts to release him, a league source said Sunday night.

As much as the team would rather not — and Colts president Bill Polian acknowledged Sunday that it’s a tricky situation — Harrison is a luxury that Indianapolis can no longer afford.

Now that Harrison has declined to restructure his contract, the Colts have little choice but to let him and his $13.4 million salary-cap number go. It will mark the end of an illustrious 13-year career in Indianapolis, where Harrison and QB Peyton Manning formed one of the greatest quarterback-receiver tandems in NFL history.

Already the speculation about where Harrison will land is beginning. For starters, Harrison is determined to continue playing. A logical landing spot would be the receiver-needy Philadelphia Eagles, where Harrison would be reunited with his former Syracuse teammate, QB Donovan McNabb, while getting to play in the city where he lives.

per adam schefter http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/22/harrison-a...to-release-him/

I hope Philly signs him.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Does he simply want out of Indy?I ask because he doesn’t want to take a pay cut from the Colts but in order to play someplace else he is going to have to take a pay cut. Unless I am wrong but I don’t think anyone is going to sign him for his cap number which is around 13 million.

My guess is that he wants Indy to honor the contract that both parties signed.

 

[ffball-novice]

Does he simply want out of Indy?I ask because he doesn’t want to take a pay cut from the Colts but in order to play someplace else he is going to have to take a pay cut. Unless I am wrong but I don’t think anyone is going to sign him for his cap number which is around 13 million.

My guess is that he wants Indy to honor the contract that both parties signed.

It was just reported on Indy localTV news that his agent said Colts had agreed to release him.Reported by WTHR might be alink on WTHR.com

 

[Burning Sensation]

Its official, he is gone.

 

[ExaltedOne]

Philly seems like it would be a great fit. You'd also think that would have to help DeSean Jackson. There's no better guy in the NFL to learn from than Harrison, especially since the two have similar body types.

 

[ravnzfan]

Does he simply want out of Indy?

I ask because he doesn’t want to take a pay cut from the Colts but in order to play someplace else he is going to have to take a pay cut. Unless I am wrong but I don’t think anyone is going to sign him for his cap number which is around 13 million.

My guess is that he wants Indy to honor the contract that both parties signed.

this notion of high $$$ vets 'wanting the team to honor the contract they both signed' has been at some point, these guys know this has to play out in this fashion, as $13MM is just crazy money in this situation---others have restructured to allow for a group to stay together, but Harrison didn't see fit to do so...OK, I don't have a problem w/that---but I'm thinking Indy above anyone else would have been able to provide a better deal, as I don't see a 3 yr/$27MM payday in front of Mr Harrison

I'd think 3/$17.5M, w/$5M locked in as a decent contract at this point---had he been injury-free, he'd have a better leg to stand on here, but...

 

[Black]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-c...p&type=lgns

Agent Tom Condon told The Associated Press that Indianapolis has agreed to release the franchise’s all-time leading receiver, although an official announcement is not expected until Tuesday or Wednesday.