Matt Cassel Projections (1 Viewer)

[PatsWillWin]

Dwayne Bowe

Tony Gonzalez

Todd Haley

Maybe a stud tackle prospect at 1.03

Potentially horrible defense as they transition to a 3-4.

Go.



ETA: Added a poll for those who don't like doing actual projections.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Dwayne Bowe

Tony Gonzalez

Todd Haley

Maybe a stud tackle prospect at 1.03

Potentially horrible defense as they transition to a 3-4.

Go.



ETA: Added a poll for those who don't like doing actual projections.

Did Larry Johnson Leave?

 

[PatsWillWin]

Did Larry Johnson Leave?

Not to my knowledge. Why, did someone finally build a working a flux capacitor?

 

[JPeso]

I went with 6-10. He was QB8 in my scoring last year, and Thigpen QB12, so I don't buy the "won't have Moss/Welker" argument. He will put up big numbers with Haley calling the shots.

 

[PatsWillWin]

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[KellysHeroes]

I say he gets to about QB10; KC's #s maybe throwing people off some. Thig played against some bad Defenses last yr when he took over.

8 Oct 26 @NYJ 25 36 69.4 280 7.8 2 0 4 20 5.0 0 0

9 Nov 2 TB 14 25 56.0 164 6.6 1 0 6 22 3.7 0 0

10 Nov 9 @SD 27 41 65.9 266 6.5 3 0 2 26 13.0 0 0

11 Nov 16 NO 19 38 50.0 235 6.2 2 1 3 45 15.0 0 0

12 Nov 23 BUF 17 31 54.8 240 7.7 3 2 3 29 9.7 0 1

13 Nov 30 @OAK 15 22 68.2 162 7.4 0 1 11 48 4.4 0 0

14 Dec 7 @DEN 17 32 53.1 187 5.8 1 0 6 34 5.7 0 0

15 Dec 14 SD 19 28 67.9 171 6.1 1 1 10 40 4.0 1 0

16 Dec 21 MIA 20 41 48.8 320 7.8 2 3 6 57 9.5 1 0

17 Dec 28 @CIN 19 36 52.8 191 5.3 1 0 2 4 2.0 0 1

Out those games listed, TB & @ Oak were Thigpen's 2 toughest Defense he played. The TB game not to bad Stat wise but the Oak gane is very bad.

The Fin game is a little surprising, very nice game from the kid in the nice weather on FF Championship week

 

[Gopher State]

Cassel is the second coming of Scott Mitchell, good luck KC

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I went with 6-10. He was QB8 in my scoring last year, and Thigpen QB12, so I don't buy the "won't have Moss/Welker" argument. He will put up big numbers with Haley calling the shots.

I'll go on record as saying I agree with JPeso...I absolutely LOVE where Cassel landed as long as they continue to invest their draft picks into the OL.I think the plan is to get better on offense first, work on bringing up the defense but that might have a 2-3 year plan...the offense could be ready to roll as soon as this season.

 

[SuperJohn96]

I say he gets to about QB10; KC's #s maybe throwing people off some. Thig played against some bad Defenses last yr when he took over.8 Oct 26 @NYJ 25 36 69.4 280 7.8 2 0 4 20 5.0 0 0 9 Nov 2 TB 14 25 56.0 164 6.6 1 0 6 22 3.7 0 0 10 Nov 9 @SD 27 41 65.9 266 6.5 3 0 2 26 13.0 0 0 11 Nov 16 NO 19 38 50.0 235 6.2 2 1 3 45 15.0 0 0 12 Nov 23 BUF 17 31 54.8 240 7.7 3 2 3 29 9.7 0 1 13 Nov 30 @OAK 15 22 68.2 162 7.4 0 1 11 48 4.4 0 0 14 Dec 7 @DEN 17 32 53.1 187 5.8 1 0 6 34 5.7 0 0 15 Dec 14 SD 19 28 67.9 171 6.1 1 1 10 40 4.0 1 0 16 Dec 21 MIA 20 41 48.8 320 7.8 2 3 6 57 9.5 1 0 17 Dec 28 @CIN 19 36 52.8 191 5.3 1 0 2 4 2.0 0 1 Out those games listed, TB & @ Oak were Thigpen's 2 toughest Defense he played. The TB game not to bad Stat wise but the Oak gane is very bad.The Fin game is a little surprising, very nice game from the kid in the nice weather on FF Championship week

For what it's worth...

KC's 2009 OPPONENTS:HOME:  DEN,  OAK,  SDC,  CLE,  PIT,  DAL,  NYG,  BUFAWAY: @DEN, @OAK, @SDC, @BAL, @CIN, @PHI, @WAS, @JAC6 games vs their own division4 games vs AFC North4 games vs NFC East1 game vs BUF and 1 at JAC

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I went for 11-16

 

[KellysHeroes]

For what it's worth...

KC's 2009 OPPONENTS:HOME:  DEN,  OAK,  SDC,  CLE,  PIT,  DAL,  NYG,  BUFAWAY: @DEN, @OAK, @SDC, @BAL, @CIN, @PHI, @WAS, @JAC6 games vs their own division4 games vs AFC North4 games vs NFC East1 game vs BUF and 1 at JAC

@ Bal / Pit / Dal / NYG / @ Was / @ Jax looks a lot harder this yr... staying w/ QB 11 - 15 for the 1st yr

 

[Chase Stuart]

Looking at season end fantasy ranks isn't that useful for predicting how they'll do the next year. I like to figure out how many adjusted games the QB played, adjust their FP for SOS, and then see their ADJ FP/ADJ G. That's my benchmark.

I don't have the time to do SOS analysis, so here's the leaders in FP/ADJ G. Both Cassel and Thigpen look pretty good, although I'm sure at least Cassel will fall after adjusting for SOS.

rk	 adjg	fp	   fp/adj g	 1	 16.00	389.35	24.33	Drew Brees 2 	15.19	350.90	23.10	Kurt Warner 3 	15.76	360.60	22.88	Aaron Rodgers 4	 16.00	356.85	22.30	Philip Rivers 5	 15.93	347.30	21.80	Jay Cutler 6	 14.86	315.50	21.24	Donovan McNabb 7	 15.08	319.20	21.16	Peyton Manning 8	 13.30	278.50	20.94	Tony Romo 9	 11.03	225.95	20.48	Matt Schaub10	12.75	253.00	19.85	Tyler Thigpen11	15.48	306.75	19.82	Matt Cassel12	 8.88	174.80	19.68	Shaun Hill13	10.89	204.40	18.77	Jeff Garcia14	15.63	275.85	17.65	Chad Pennington15	15.90	274.20	17.25	David Garrard16	14.12	237.50	16.82	Kyle Orton17	15.38	253.90	16.50	Eli Manning18	14.74	242.50	16.45	Ben Roethlisberger19	 8.21	133.40	16.25	Seneca Wallace20	12.47	199.65	16.01	Trent Edwards21	15.77	249.90	15.85	Brett Favre22	16.00	247.05	15.44	Jason Campbell23	16.00	246.40	15.40	Matt Ryan24	15.85	229.50	14.48	Jake Delhomme25	15.58	224.55	14.41	Joe Flacco26	10.34	144.55	13.98	Gus Frerotte27	13.91	188.85	13.58	JaMarcus Russell28	11.92	159.65	13.40	Ryan Fitzpatrick29	14.49	184.70	12.75	Kerry Collins30	13.65	169.10	12.38	Marc Bulger31	 9.53	115.25	12.09	Derek Anderson32	 7.81	107.70	13.80	Dan Orlovsky

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Cassel is the second coming of Scott Mitchell, good luck KC

I don't agree with this, but did anyone see the segment on ESPN with Scott Mitchell talking about Cassel? I didn't even recognize Mitchell...dude's taken his money and let himself go!

 

[Da Guru]

I like Cassel in NE, but I have a gut feeling he is going to struggle in KC.

I have no date to back up my feelings though.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Cassel is the second coming of Scott Mitchell, good luck KC

I think people need to give Scott Pioli (perhaps the man most responsible for the Pats dynasty) and Josh McDaniel (former Pats OC) the benefit of the doubt. Both of these guys saw enough of Cassell to think he could be their respective franchise QB. They spent alot of time watching him in practices and games and both treid to bring him with them in their new pursuits. To me that says something and it kind of makes Scott Mitchell irrelevant since no one that watched him play brought him over. Not to mention Scott Mitchell had a HUGE first season and decent second season with Detroit (look it up).I voted 11-15, but w/o really doing projections yet I can see him around QB 10-11.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I went with 6-10. He was QB8 in my scoring last year, and Thigpen QB12, so I don't buy the "won't have Moss/Welker" argument. He will put up big numbers with Haley calling the shots.

Thigpen ran for a lot of points. His fantasy ranking doesn't really tell you anything about Cassel.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I went with 6-10. He was QB8 in my scoring last year, and Thigpen QB12, so I don't buy the "won't have Moss/Welker" argument. He will put up big numbers with Haley calling the shots.

Thigpen ran for a lot of points. His fantasy ranking doesn't really tell you anything about Cassel.

Cassel had more carries than Thigpen did last year. Thigpen was more productive with his carries, but only by 13 fantasy points.