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Matt Cassel will throw 3 TD's Sunday (1 Viewer)
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David Yudkin
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Bottom line, nobody knows what to expect. But I would look at Brady's first full start as a possible indication:
Against the Colts in 2001, here were the key offensive stats:
PASSING
T.Brady 13-23-168 (0 TD, 0 INT)
RUSHING
A.Smith 22-94-2
K.Faulk 9-48-1
M.Edwards 4-11
T.Brown 2-11
D.Patten 1-11
T.Brady 1-2
Against the Colts in 2001, here were the key offensive stats:
PASSING
T.Brady 13-23-168 (0 TD, 0 INT)
RUSHING
A.Smith 22-94-2
K.Faulk 9-48-1
M.Edwards 4-11
T.Brown 2-11
D.Patten 1-11
T.Brady 1-2
ridiculous
What if Cassel throws 30 tds, and gets moved this offseason, and goes onto a HOF career?
brednbuddah
Footballguy
Bottom line, nobody knows what to expect. But I would look at Brady's first full start as a possible indication:Against the Colts in 2001, here were the key offensive statsASSING T.Brady 13-23-168 (0 TD, 0 INT)RUSHINGA.Smith 22-94-2K.Faulk 9-48-1M.Edwards 4-11T.Brown 2-11D.Patten 1-11T.Brady 1-2
plus, I certainly don think the Pats want to get into a shoot out. Pennington isn´t chucking the ball for us anymore.
Hue G
Footballguy
That's what i was thinking, one of the dumber comments I've heard!
TheDemon
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While Cassell could indeed throw three TDs Sunday, that really has no bearing on Brady's incredible book of work.
Interseptopus
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David Yudkin
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Bring back Reche Caldwell and Doug Gabriel to replace Randy Moss and Wes Welker and then it would be a fair fight.I have seen several people post that Brady somehow is a fraud or is a system quarterback. People need to remember who he's had to throw the ball to.Here a full list of guys that had at least 10 catches in a season with Brady:Troy Brown David Patten Kevin Faulk Marc Edwards Antowain Smith Jermaine Wiggins Charles Johnson Terry Glenn J.R. RedmondDeion BranchChristian FauriaCam CleelandDaniel Graham Donald HayesDavid GivensLarry Centers Bethel Johnson Patrick PassCorey DillonBen WatsonTim DwightHeath EvansReche CaldwellDoug GabrielLaurence MaroneyChad JacksonDavid Thomas Jabar Gaffney Wes WelkerRandy MossDonte StallworthUp until last year, I would go so far to say he had very few years with top tier receiving talent. That list of players is not exactly the 27 Yankees of receiving options.
Is this what you would predict for Cassel this week, being the New England insider that you are? It seems to me that the situations are so drastically different in terms of the offense, that this would shock me if Cassel had this sort of day. I think that Brady would have been given a little more leaway in this particular game if he had Welker and Moss to throw the ball to and they were running the sort of offense that they have been over the last season or so.David Yudkin said:Bottom line, nobody knows what to expect. But I would look at Brady's first full start as a possible indication:Against the Colts in 2001, here were the key offensive stats
the hairy scotsman
Footballguy
Guy hasn't started a game since high school, but I just don't see how the Pats can't come out and at least attempt to shut up the nay-sayers. Awesome oline, great receivers, great system. Put me back there and I could get a few to Moss. Of course, then again, this is the NFL.
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David Yudkin
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After Brady went down, the Pats had 22 rushes to go with 20 passing plays (plus two kneel downs which I didn't count).I'd would guess something pretty even in terms of pass/run distribution. 200/1 for Cassel. 50/50% on an interception.I think they will go conservative against the Jets. They can let Cassel open up the offense more against some of the other defensively challenged teams on their schedule.Is this what you would predict for Cassel this week, being the New England insider that you are? It seems to me that the situations are so drastically different in terms of the offense, that this would shock me if Cassel had this sort of day. I think that Brady would have been given a little more leaway in this particular game if he had Welker and Moss to throw the ball to and they were running the sort of offense that they have been over the last season or so.David Yudkin said:Bottom line, nobody knows what to expect. But I would look at Brady's first full start as a possible indication:Against the Colts in 2001, here were the key offensive stats
That is excellent information. Thanks for the response.
footballnerd
Footballguy
Im thinking he'll go for a modest 200 yds and 1TD, no INTs, as Belichick keeps the reigns on him. The ground game however might get 2 more TDs.
PatsFanCT
Footballguy
Ah, but knowing this is the general expectation of the Jets as well, I wouldn't put it past Belichick to start out throwing bombs early and often.eta - TheDemon beat me to it.After Brady went down, the Pats had 22 rushes to go with 20 passing plays (plus two kneel downs which I didn't count).I'd would guess something pretty even in terms of pass/run distribution. 200/1 for Cassel. 50/50% on an interception.I think they will go conservative against the Jets. They can let Cassel open up the offense more against some of the other defensively challenged teams on their schedule.Is this what you would predict for Cassel this week, being the New England insider that you are? It seems to me that the situations are so drastically different in terms of the offense, that this would shock me if Cassel had this sort of day. I think that Brady would have been given a little more leaway in this particular game if he had Welker and Moss to throw the ball to and they were running the sort of offense that they have been over the last season or so.David Yudkin said:Bottom line, nobody knows what to expect. But I would look at Brady's first full start as a possible indication:Against the Colts in 2001, here were the key offensive stats
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Chickenwang
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there is a reason i visit this forum over FFToday.
Please don't ruin it.
Please don't ruin it.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Belichick appears prepared to roll with Cassel. If he either 1) puts Cassel in harm's way for an injury, 2) gets him off to a bad start, or 3) gets him off to a turnover early then Cassel could have some confidence issues. Like the rest of us, BB realizes Cassel hasn't started in almost 10 years. I'm guessing he will start him off slowly with safe plays with max protection for him to get his feet wet and then sneak in a deep bomb to Moss.There is some precident, though, for postering for a big passing attack. In Brady's first start, the team did start out on his first play with 5 wide receivers and an empty backfield. Given that I think the Jets will try to harass and blitz much of the day, I doubt the Pats will risk injuring another QB based on ego alone.Ah, but knowing this is the general expectation of the Jets as well, I wouldn't put it past Belichick to start out throwing bombs early and often.eta - TheDemon beat me to it.After Brady went down, the Pats had 22 rushes to go with 20 passing plays (plus two kneel downs which I didn't count).I'd would guess something pretty even in terms of pass/run distribution. 200/1 for Cassel. 50/50% on an interception.I think they will go conservative against the Jets. They can let Cassel open up the offense more against some of the other defensively challenged teams on their schedule.Is this what you would predict for Cassel this week, being the New England insider that you are? It seems to me that the situations are so drastically different in terms of the offense, that this would shock me if Cassel had this sort of day. I think that Brady would have been given a little more leaway in this particular game if he had Welker and Moss to throw the ball to and they were running the sort of offense that they have been over the last season or so.David Yudkin said:Bottom line, nobody knows what to expect. But I would look at Brady's first full start as a possible indication:Against the Colts in 2001, here were the key offensive stats
Random
Footballguy
Are we talking about the same Pats?
Buffaloes
Footballguy
I was going to use the
smiley, but I really didn't think it was necessary.I'm constantly giving members too much credit.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
30 tds is a lot of touchdowns in one game, but if anybody can do it, Cassel can.Cassel. He's the New Favre.
hoochiemama
Footballguy
Awesome O line? Not one of them should have cashed their All Star check last year after the way they got beat up by NYG.They did not look good against KC either.
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