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Matt Jones in Indy? (2 Viewers)

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Several Teams could use a talent like Matt Jones.... he was on the short list several weeks ago and all assumed he would be snatched up after week 1 to forego the guaranteed contract.....why is he still unsigned? Any talk out of Indy? Chicago?

 
Several Teams could use a talent like Matt Jones.... he was on the short list several weeks ago and all assumed he would be snatched up after week 1 to forego the guaranteed contract.....why is he still unsigned? Any talk out of Indy? Chicago?
He is not that great a talent. He was good in portions. Most teams desire consistency and total commitment that a professional should show at practice and during games, Unfortuantely, you dont get that with Mr. Matt Jones. He has probably lost a step too.
 
Several Teams could use a talent like Matt Jones.... he was on the short list several weeks ago and all assumed he would be snatched up after week 1 to forego the guaranteed contract.....why is he still unsigned? Any talk out of Indy? Chicago?
He is not that great a talent. He was good in portions. Most teams desire consistency and total commitment that a professional should show at practice and during games, Unfortuantely, you dont get that with Mr. Matt Jones. He has probably lost a step too.
LINK?...for anything you said
 
Several Teams could use a talent like Matt Jones.... he was on the short list several weeks ago and all assumed he would be snatched up after week 1 to forego the guaranteed contract.....why is he still unsigned? Any talk out of Indy? Chicago?
He is not that great a talent. He was good in portions. Most teams desire consistency and total commitment that a professional should show at practice and during games, Unfortuantely, you dont get that with Mr. Matt Jones. He has probably lost a step too.
LINK?...for anything you said
For what? The off the field stuff is crap, but Jones really isn't that special. A decent #2 WR, ideal #3, imo...in real life, not fantasy.
 
Titans, Cowboys, Bears In Play For Matt Jones

15th September, 2009 - 4:29 pm

ESPN - Free agent wide receiver Matt Jones spoke with the Titans, Cowboys and Bears last week.

Adam Schefter of ESPN writes that "Jones is better than some receivers on rosters now.

 
Several Teams could use a talent like Matt Jones.... he was on the short list several weeks ago and all assumed he would be snatched up after week 1 to forego the guaranteed contract.....why is he still unsigned? Any talk out of Indy? Chicago?
He is not that great a talent. He was good in portions. Most teams desire consistency and total commitment that a professional should show at practice and during games, Unfortuantely, you dont get that with Mr. Matt Jones. He has probably lost a step too.
LINK?...for anything you said
For what? The off the field stuff is crap, but Jones really isn't that special. A decent #2 WR, ideal #3, imo...in real life, not fantasy.
So, you admit he's a decent #2 so you too should be surprised that he has not signed
 
I never knew him to have NFL talent.
dude had 65 receptions for 761 yards last year in 12 games. that projects to 86 receptions for 1014 yards over a 16 game season. and he did that on the jaguars, who haven't had a 1000 yard receiver since jimmy smith hit 1023 yards in 2005.he also led his team in receptions and receiving yards in 06 and 08.i'd say that qualifies as meriting being on a freaking roster in the nfl.
 
I wish that Sirius could interview his agent to see what contract Jones is seeking. Seems especially curious now that he has not ben offered something. I trust the reports from Wadsworth regarding his conditioning and attitude. Remaining hopeful that he'll get an opportunity.

 
I wish that Sirius could interview his agent to see what contract Jones is seeking. Seems especially curious now that he has not ben offered something. I trust the reports from Wadsworth regarding his conditioning and attitude. Remaining hopeful that he'll get an opportunity.
I absolutely stand by my previous statement that Matt is currently in amazing shape and focused on his football career. I can also tell you that his contract "demands" are not close to crazy. I hesitate to even call them demands because mostly he just wants to get on the field to prove he can play. His only real demand might be that he doesn't want a long term deal, since he expects a small contract and wants to be able to prove his worth and potentially sign a bigger deal sooner rather than later. The guy is in shape, focused and ready to go and I remain baffled that he isn't signed.
 
I've had this guy stashed on my roster and I'm thinking of dropping him when guys start clearing waivers.

I'm usually not that impulsive but I'd think he would've signed by now.

 
As with a lot of veteran free agents of borderline rosterability, he wasn't going to be signed before Week 1 because then his contract would be guaranteed for the whole year.

And this is a guy with one OK season and a bunch of disappointing seasons under his belt. The pimping he gets on this site is not commensurate with his track record.

 
Not likely he will go to Indy for two reasons.

1. Not a Colts player - too much 'me' baggage. They aren't saints there but generally try to stay away from troublesome players.

2. Gonzalez is only projected out 3-6 weeks, and they would most likely want a player that went through training camp and preseason so as to not have to wait several games as he plays himself back into football shape.

EDIT - I could see them going after someone like Tyree instead.

 
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As with a lot of veteran free agents of borderline rosterability, he wasn't going to be signed before Week 1 because then his contract would be guaranteed for the whole year. And this is a guy with one OK season and a bunch of disappointing seasons under his belt. The pimping he gets on this site is not commensurate with his track record.
Actually the uninformed naysayers out number us pimps on this board
 
Wadsworth said:
rzrback77 said:
I wish that Sirius could interview his agent to see what contract Jones is seeking. Seems especially curious now that he has not ben offered something. I trust the reports from Wadsworth regarding his conditioning and attitude. Remaining hopeful that he'll get an opportunity.
I absolutely stand by my previous statement that Matt is currently in amazing shape and focused on his football career. I can also tell you that his contract "demands" are not close to crazy. I hesitate to even call them demands because mostly he just wants to get on the field to prove he can play. His only real demand might be that he doesn't want a long term deal, since he expects a small contract and wants to be able to prove his worth and potentially sign a bigger deal sooner rather than later. The guy is in shape, focused and ready to go and I remain baffled that he isn't signed.
He almost got cut on numerous occasions by jacksonville because of a lack of commitment. This guy just does not have a football attitude. Yes, he had a decent year going last season but there are off the field and locker room questions about him, and his talent is not so great that it overcomes the concerns. He also is a guy who is always nursing some injury or another. There is no conspiracy. Trust me: if teams thought that he was worth the money and could help them win someone would have signed him.
 
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Wadsworth said:
rzrback77 said:
I wish that Sirius could interview his agent to see what contract Jones is seeking. Seems especially curious now that he has not ben offered something. I trust the reports from Wadsworth regarding his conditioning and attitude. Remaining hopeful that he'll get an opportunity.
I absolutely stand by my previous statement that Matt is currently in amazing shape and focused on his football career. I can also tell you that his contract "demands" are not close to crazy. I hesitate to even call them demands because mostly he just wants to get on the field to prove he can play. His only real demand might be that he doesn't want a long term deal, since he expects a small contract and wants to be able to prove his worth and potentially sign a bigger deal sooner rather than later. The guy is in shape, focused and ready to go and I remain baffled that he isn't signed.
He almost got cut on numerous occasions by jacksonville because of a lack of commitment. This guy just does not have a football attitude. Yes, he had a decent year going last season but there are off the field and locker room questions about him, and his talent is not so great that it overcomes the concerns. He also is a guy who is always nursing some injury or another. There is no conspiracy. Trust me: if teams thought that he was worth the money and could help them win someone would have signed him.
I would bet Jones has a unique personality that goes like this: Unless he is the center of things (starting QB at a big school like Arkansas) and the pressure is squarely on him at every second, he becomes disinterested until things heat up again. Thus what was happening with his concentration lapses or his lack of enthusiasm for practice as noted in many articles covering the Jags between 2006/2007. As a rookie the pressure was squarely on him to live up to the first round pick, and he focused/responded, had a great game against NE in playoffs. But it faded from there. A lot of people are like that, they live for responding to pressure where they are at their best and are basically bored by anything less. The small things do nothing for them. Had JAX been able to pressure him he might have continually responded and lived up to his measurables. I could be off saying above he isn't that talented, but he just didn't meet the potential _and is a long shot to do it now.
 
Wadsworth said:
rzrback77 said:
I wish that Sirius could interview his agent to see what contract Jones is seeking. Seems especially curious now that he has not ben offered something. I trust the reports from Wadsworth regarding his conditioning and attitude. Remaining hopeful that he'll get an opportunity.
I absolutely stand by my previous statement that Matt is currently in amazing shape and focused on his football career. I can also tell you that his contract "demands" are not close to crazy. I hesitate to even call them demands because mostly he just wants to get on the field to prove he can play. His only real demand might be that he doesn't want a long term deal, since he expects a small contract and wants to be able to prove his worth and potentially sign a bigger deal sooner rather than later. The guy is in shape, focused and ready to go and I remain baffled that he isn't signed.
He almost got cut on numerous occasions by jacksonville because of a lack of commitment. This guy just does not have a football attitude. Yes, he had a decent year going last season but there are off the field and locker room questions about him, and his talent is not so great that it overcomes the concerns. He also is a guy who is always nursing some injury or another. There is no conspiracy. Trust me: if teams thought that he was worth the money and could help them win someone would have signed him.
I would bet Jones has a unique personality that goes like this: Unless he is the center of things (starting QB at a big school like Arkansas) and the pressure is squarely on him at every second, he becomes disinterested until things heat up again. Thus what was happening with his concentration lapses or his lack of enthusiasm for practice as noted in many articles covering the Jags between 2006/2007. As a rookie the pressure was squarely on him to live up to the first round pick, and he focused/responded, had a great game against NE in playoffs. But it faded from there. A lot of people are like that, they live for responding to pressure where they are at their best and are basically bored by anything less. The small things do nothing for them. Had JAX been able to pressure him he might have continually responded and lived up to his measurables. I could be off saying above he isn't that talented, but he just didn't meet the potential _and is a long shot to do it now.
You may be right. Or maybe he just likes to smoke the weed and collect his check and didn't really care until he was in a contract year and his money and drugs were at risk?
 
Wadsworth said:
rzrback77 said:
I wish that Sirius could interview his agent to see what contract Jones is seeking. Seems especially curious now that he has not ben offered something. I trust the reports from Wadsworth regarding his conditioning and attitude. Remaining hopeful that he'll get an opportunity.
I absolutely stand by my previous statement that Matt is currently in amazing shape and focused on his football career. I can also tell you that his contract "demands" are not close to crazy. I hesitate to even call them demands because mostly he just wants to get on the field to prove he can play. His only real demand might be that he doesn't want a long term deal, since he expects a small contract and wants to be able to prove his worth and potentially sign a bigger deal sooner rather than later. The guy is in shape, focused and ready to go and I remain baffled that he isn't signed.
He almost got cut on numerous occasions by jacksonville because of a lack of commitment. This guy just does not have a football attitude. Yes, he had a decent year going last season but there are off the field and locker room questions about him, and his talent is not so great that it overcomes the concerns. He also is a guy who is always nursing some injury or another. There is no conspiracy. Trust me: if teams thought that he was worth the money and could help them win someone would have signed him.
I would bet Jones has a unique personality that goes like this: Unless he is the center of things (starting QB at a big school like Arkansas) and the pressure is squarely on him at every second, he becomes disinterested until things heat up again. Thus what was happening with his concentration lapses or his lack of enthusiasm for practice as noted in many articles covering the Jags between 2006/2007. As a rookie the pressure was squarely on him to live up to the first round pick, and he focused/responded, had a great game against NE in playoffs. But it faded from there. A lot of people are like that, they live for responding to pressure where they are at their best and are basically bored by anything less. The small things do nothing for them. Had JAX been able to pressure him he might have continually responded and lived up to his measurables. I could be off saying above he isn't that talented, but he just didn't meet the potential _and is a long shot to do it now.
Ok freud....the player you describe accounts for about 30% of talented but never made it NFL receivers. Not commensurate frankly with the #'s he put up last year. And he certainly wouldn't be the first talented player to need a "change of scenery" to resurrect his career.

I could probably list 40-50 receivers currently collecting an nfl salary that are less talented than him. And that is what is baffling to a few of us. :popcorn:

 
Wadsworth said:
rzrback77 said:
I wish that Sirius could interview his agent to see what contract Jones is seeking. Seems especially curious now that he has not ben offered something. I trust the reports from Wadsworth regarding his conditioning and attitude. Remaining hopeful that he'll get an opportunity.
I absolutely stand by my previous statement that Matt is currently in amazing shape and focused on his football career. I can also tell you that his contract "demands" are not close to crazy. I hesitate to even call them demands because mostly he just wants to get on the field to prove he can play. His only real demand might be that he doesn't want a long term deal, since he expects a small contract and wants to be able to prove his worth and potentially sign a bigger deal sooner rather than later. The guy is in shape, focused and ready to go and I remain baffled that he isn't signed.
He almost got cut on numerous occasions by jacksonville because of a lack of commitment. This guy just does not have a football attitude. Yes, he had a decent year going last season but there are off the field and locker room questions about him, and his talent is not so great that it overcomes the concerns. He also is a guy who is always nursing some injury or another. There is no conspiracy. Trust me: if teams thought that he was worth the money and could help them win someone would have signed him.
I would bet Jones has a unique personality that goes like this: Unless he is the center of things (starting QB at a big school like Arkansas) and the pressure is squarely on him at every second, he becomes disinterested until things heat up again. Thus what was happening with his concentration lapses or his lack of enthusiasm for practice as noted in many articles covering the Jags between 2006/2007. As a rookie the pressure was squarely on him to live up to the first round pick, and he focused/responded, had a great game against NE in playoffs. But it faded from there. A lot of people are like that, they live for responding to pressure where they are at their best and are basically bored by anything less. The small things do nothing for them. Had JAX been able to pressure him he might have continually responded and lived up to his measurables. I could be off saying above he isn't that talented, but he just didn't meet the potential _and is a long shot to do it now.
Ok freud....the player you describe accounts for about 30% of talented but never made it NFL receivers. Not commensurate frankly with the #'s he put up last year. And he certainly wouldn't be the first talented player to need a "change of scenery" to resurrect his career.

I could probably list 40-50 receivers currently collecting an nfl salary that are less talented than him. And that is what is baffling to a few of us. :popcorn:
Ok Johnny Cochran, it is true he has physical talent. But let's not forget that he has only learnt the WR position recently. Maybe a change of scenery will help but the guy was given EVERY OPPORTUNITY to succeed and he just couldn't do it on a consistent basis. You want to bet on a guy who doesn't give a damn, go ahead. I'll put my money on a guy who wants to work hard and has talent, rather than the guy with talent who has not demonstrated a willingness to work hard.
 
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Ok Johnny Cochran, it is true he has physical talent. But let's not forget that he has only learnt the WR position recently. Maybe a change of scenery will help but the guy was given EVERY OPPORTUNITY to succeed and he just couldn't do it on a consistent basis. You want to bet on a guy who doesn't give a damn, go ahead. I'll put my money on a guy who wants to work hard and has talent, rather than the guy with talent who has not demonstrated a willingness to work hard.
That sounds like what a lot of nfl gms said when they decided not to give up a 4th round draft pick for that 'cancer' randy Moss...The guy wasn't "given every opportunity to succeed", he DID SUCCEED. But he ####ed up too. Too bad Del Rio is such a old school hard ###, because Jax might have been able to convert a third down or two vs Indy if they had Jones on their roster.
 
Ok Johnny Cochran, it is true he has physical talent. But let's not forget that he has only learnt the WR position recently. Maybe a change of scenery will help but the guy was given EVERY OPPORTUNITY to succeed and he just couldn't do it on a consistent basis. You want to bet on a guy who doesn't give a damn, go ahead. I'll put my money on a guy who wants to work hard and has talent, rather than the guy with talent who has not demonstrated a willingness to work hard.
That sounds like what a lot of nfl gms said when they decided not to give up a 4th round draft pick for that 'cancer' randy Moss...The guy wasn't "given every opportunity to succeed", he DID SUCCEED. But he ####ed up too. Too bad Del Rio is such a old school hard ###, because Jax might have been able to convert a third down or two vs Indy if they had Jones on their roster.
That loser Brett Favre wasn't focused on his NFL career his first year in Atlanta. He'll never amount to anything. Like that druggie Chris Carter, he was cut by Philly, how could he be any good? I mean, no kid in his early 20's has ever made a mistake and then changed his life around. :rolleyes: As far as work, you have no idea how much work Matt has done, do you? I mean, I understand that you are just voicing an opinion, but I'm not exactly sure what you are basing that opinion on.
 
I've been carrying him on a couple dynasty rosters hoping he'd sign and believing he'd be serviceable if he did. Most of the recent commentary was suggesting that teams wouldn't sign him until after Week 1 play so his contract wouldn't be guaranteed - but that interested teams would be moving fast once Week 1 was complete to be the one that landed him. Fast forward: Week 1 has come and gone and there's no new news on this guy. With Week 1 waiver wire offering some of the best bargains in dynasty, it's time for those of us holding him to fish or cut bait . . . I'm cashing him out unless I hear something promising today . . .

 
Ok Johnny Cochran, it is true he has physical talent. But let's not forget that he has only learnt the WR position recently. Maybe a change of scenery will help but the guy was given EVERY OPPORTUNITY to succeed and he just couldn't do it on a consistent basis. You want to bet on a guy who doesn't give a damn, go ahead. I'll put my money on a guy who wants to work hard and has talent, rather than the guy with talent who has not demonstrated a willingness to work hard.
That sounds like what a lot of nfl gms said when they decided not to give up a 4th round draft pick for that 'cancer' randy Moss...The guy wasn't "given every opportunity to succeed", he DID SUCCEED. But he ####ed up too. Too bad Del Rio is such a old school hard ###, because Jax might have been able to convert a third down or two vs Indy if they had Jones on their roster.
I knew Randy Moss. I watched Randy Moss his first season and blow the league up. He is an unbelievable talent. I have also seen Matt Jones play, and Matt Jones is no Randy Moss.Beyond the talent difference, Moss is a wide receiver; Jones is a QB converted to Wr who doesn't have the instinct for the position. And as for their problems, Moss' was in college when he was kid, but Jones' attitude appeared as a professional. How do I know it? Del Rio and Jaguar insiders talked about it all the time. A guy using pot is something that can be dealt with, but a guy who really has no drive or desire to be a professional--that is something that can't be changed. He is always dinged up and even last year when he finally started to have a good year he got hurt. Plus, Moss doesn't have any substance abuse arrests since becoming a Pro but Jones has two--he could easily see a big suspension if something else happens. And Jones is playing with Coke--not good.Bottom line: if GMs trusted he could contribue and be counted on he would be signed. More than likely he will sign with someone soon now that the contract doesn't have to be guaranteed.
 

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