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Matt Jones: The Saga Continues- TB works him out (1 Viewer)

This is a guy whose whole career has been marred by lack of motivation and unwillingness to take football seriously, a guy who has played ball in a long time or been in training camp at all, and we are supposed to believe he can sign with a team the week before the regular season and be anything more than a spot player? You can SAY he is in great shape, but football shape is one thing, and this guy has is no Jerry Rice.

I don't think so.

 
This is a guy whose whole career has been marred by lack of motivation and unwillingness to take football seriously, a guy who has played ball in a long time or been in training camp at all, and we are supposed to believe he can sign with a team the week before the regular season and be anything more than a spot player? You can SAY he is in great shape, but football shape is one thing, and this guy has is no Jerry Rice.I don't think so.
what about when you work out with a few professional trainers and former NFL +college players?
 
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NFL: Matt Jones On Verge of Signing?

Posted: 16 hrs 35 mins ago. | Source nfldraftbible.com

Player: Matt Jones

As per Adam Schefter, very quietly, free-agent wide receiver Matt Jones had been talking with at least three teams. One team has spoken with Jones at least five times over the past two weeks. Yet with August quickly coming to a close, Jones does not have a deal. Yet. But it would not be surprising in the next few weeks to see Jones finally consummate a deal with one of the teams that has been monitoring him, if not another...
edit to add teams as per radio interview with Joneslink to cowboys blog

Matt Jones has spoken with four teams

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 30, 2009 1:47 PM ET

Matt Jones was on pace for 1,000 receiving yards on a mediocre passing attack last season before his three-game suspension kicked in.

With that in mind, the lack of interest in Jones this offseason has been surprising.

Jones said recently, however, that his agent has spoken with the Titans, Bears, Jets, and Cowboys.

"Things are looking good," Jones told 103.7 in Little Rock. "Something probably will happen sooner rather than later. We just want it to be a good fit and somewhere where I can get in there and help a team win."

That none of the teams signed him before camp indicates that he's not exactly a priority. It seems more likely that Jones will join a team after they lose a veteran to an injury.

It's not like Jones is still on the market because of lingering complications about his probation violation. The NFL has already told Jones that he won't be suspended again, and the felony cocaine charges filed against him last year have been dropped.

The Jets are the most intriguing name on the list. The New York Daily News wrote recently that they are looking at the veteran free agent market.

After Jerricho Cotchery, the Jets have a lot of question marks and not a lot of players with a high ceiling. Signing an ascending veteran that has produced like Jones could make rookie Mark Sanchez's introduction to the league a little smoother.

Of course, if the rest of the league thought as highly of Jones' abilities as this post does, he would already have a home.
I'd think CLOSE TO SIGNING would mean AFTER Week 1 since he is a veteran player and would not get a guaranteed contract if he signs before next Sunday, no?
 
that's cool hope you had a nice time

I just thought that was worded as if it's dead in the water. That's not the case at all. Teams don't always offer guys $ on the spot.

What Lemon went through was similar to Simms last year. (assuming he hasn't signed elsewhere) They'll dial up Lemon if someone gets hurt.

I think tomorrow we'll get some news on Matt

 
This is a guy whose whole career has been marred by lack of motivation and unwillingness to take football seriously, a guy who has played ball in a long time or been in training camp at all, and we are supposed to believe he can sign with a team the week before the regular season and be anything more than a spot player? You can SAY he is in great shape, but football shape is one thing, and this guy has is no Jerry Rice.I don't think so.
what about when you work out with a few professional trainers and former NFL +college players?
They always say that and in my experience it is never the same. Running wind sprints is not the same as two a day practices where the coach is kicking your azzz. It's just not. Then there is the problem of learning the playbook and developing chemistry with the QB.
 
This is a guy whose whole career has been marred by lack of motivation and unwillingness to take football seriously, a guy who has played ball in a long time or been in training camp at all, and we are supposed to believe he can sign with a team the week before the regular season and be anything more than a spot player? You can SAY he is in great shape, but football shape is one thing, and this guy has is no Jerry Rice.I don't think so.
OK, you win, he's no Jerry Rice.
 
This is a guy whose whole career has been marred by lack of motivation and unwillingness to take football seriously, a guy who has played ball in a long time or been in training camp at all, and we are supposed to believe he can sign with a team the week before the regular season and be anything more than a spot player? You can SAY he is in great shape, but football shape is one thing, and this guy has is no Jerry Rice.I don't think so.
OK, you win, he's no Jerry Rice.
I'm just wondering how come the Bears haven't seen him as being an improvement over the motley crew of Devin Hester, Earl Bennett, Rashied Davis and Devin Aromashodu. I'd cut Davis in a heartbeat and at least try Jones out for a year. If it doesn't work out the Bears can hopefully have one of their rookies ready next year. This seems like a no brainer. Are the Bears that hard up for Rashied Davis to work on special teams that they don't consider this? Davis is an awful WR, and Hester hasn't looked much better this year.
 
Why is there three pages of discussion over a free agent who has accomplished nothing?
Was a solid FF WR3 last year. This is a FF message board and a thread with his name in the title.Weird....
 
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The improvement I witnessed in Matt Jones in his last season playing was nothing short of miraculous.

One of two things happened: he either found the dedication necessary to succeed or he started snorting before games.

Any Jags fan will tell you the same thing I would think (pats fan living in jacksonville here). Jones will be successful if signed imo.

 
This is a guy whose whole career has been marred by lack of motivation and unwillingness to take football seriously, a guy who has played ball in a long time or been in training camp at all, and we are supposed to believe he can sign with a team the week before the regular season and be anything more than a spot player? You can SAY he is in great shape, but football shape is one thing, and this guy has is no Jerry Rice.I don't think so.
what about when you work out with a few professional trainers and former NFL +college players?
They always say that and in my experience it is never the same. Running wind sprints is not the same as two a day practices where the coach is kicking your azzz. It's just not. Then there is the problem of learning the playbook and developing chemistry with the QB.
I guess cb Dunta Robinson should not start for Houston next Sunday as planned after signing yesterday with no off season team drills....
 
The improvement I witnessed in Matt Jones in his last season playing was nothing short of miraculous.

One of two things happened: he either found the dedication necessary to succeed or he started snorting before games.

Any Jags fan will tell you the same thing I would think (pats fan living in jacksonville here). Jones will be successful if signed imo.
This. Matt Jones totally turned it around last season and was a pretty good WR on a bad team. He is still young, has proven to be a reliable 3rd down target and has a big upside. I'm baffled that he's still sitting out there. If you project his stats last season to 16 games, he would have had 80+ catches for almost 1000 yards and almost 60 for first downs. While those are not Jerry Rice numbers, they are way too good for a guy who isn't asking for big money and can't find a gig anywhere.

 
Anyone still rostering Matt Jones?
I am waiting to see where he ends up.If he signs in Tennessee, I will not touch him.If he signs in Chicago or New York, I'll probably grab him as a reserve WR and give him 3 or 4 weeks to see what he can do.As for other teams, I'll look at this on a case by case basis.
 
The improvement I witnessed in Matt Jones in his last season playing was nothing short of miraculous.

One of two things happened: he either found the dedication necessary to succeed or he started snorting before games.

Any Jags fan will tell you the same thing I would think (pats fan living in jacksonville here). Jones will be successful if signed imo.
This. Matt Jones totally turned it around last season and was a pretty good WR on a bad team. He is still young, has proven to be a reliable 3rd down target and has a big upside. I'm baffled that he's still sitting out there. If you project his stats last season to 16 games, he would have had 80+ catches for almost 1000 yards and almost 60 for first downs. While those are not Jerry Rice numbers, they are way too good for a guy who isn't asking for big money and can't find a gig anywhere.
He's hanging out on my active roster on a deep-roster, dynasty league for the reasons above.
 
Anyone still rostering Matt Jones?
I am waiting to see where he ends up.If he signs in Tennessee, I will not touch him.

If he signs in Chicago or New York, I'll probably grab him as a reserve WR and give him 3 or 4 weeks to see what he can do.

As for other teams, I'll look at this on a case by case basis.
I'm curious about this statement. If he lands in TEN wouldn't he be the WR1? Sure Collins is nothing to write home about, but they've got a pretty capable OL right?
 
Anyone still rostering Matt Jones?
I am waiting to see where he ends up.If he signs in Tennessee, I will not touch him.

If he signs in Chicago or New York, I'll probably grab him as a reserve WR and give him 3 or 4 weeks to see what he can do.

As for other teams, I'll look at this on a case by case basis.
I'm curious about this statement. If he lands in TEN wouldn't he be the WR1? Sure Collins is nothing to write home about, but they've got a pretty capable OL right?
He'd have to beat out Britt for this of course :hifive:
 
Anyone still rostering Matt Jones?
I am waiting to see where he ends up.If he signs in Tennessee, I will not touch him.

If he signs in Chicago or New York, I'll probably grab him as a reserve WR and give him 3 or 4 weeks to see what he can do.

As for other teams, I'll look at this on a case by case basis.
I'm curious about this statement. If he lands in TEN wouldn't he be the WR1? Sure Collins is nothing to write home about, but they've got a pretty capable OL right?
Mason was a productive wr when he was down there on a run first team. They just haven't had any WR's worth a lick in long time. He was a top 20 wr for 3 of 4 years and the other year he was 25th, missed two games but on a pro-rated basis he was top 20. So even though they are a run 1st team there enough room for one good wr in that offense. Is M. Jones a good enough WR, that's another question....
 
Anyone still rostering Matt Jones?
I am waiting to see where he ends up.If he signs in Tennessee, I will not touch him.

If he signs in Chicago or New York, I'll probably grab him as a reserve WR and give him 3 or 4 weeks to see what he can do.

As for other teams, I'll look at this on a case by case basis.
I'm curious about this statement. If he lands in TEN wouldn't he be the WR1? Sure Collins is nothing to write home about, but they've got a pretty capable OL right?
He'd have to beat out Britt for this of course :eek:
To be honest I haven't really been following the TEN WRs very closely. Didn't Britt have a hamstring injury? Is he back to 100%? I know Washington is still dinged up.
 
Anyone still rostering Matt Jones?
I am waiting to see where he ends up.If he signs in Tennessee, I will not touch him.

If he signs in Chicago or New York, I'll probably grab him as a reserve WR and give him 3 or 4 weeks to see what he can do.

As for other teams, I'll look at this on a case by case basis.
I'm curious about this statement. If he lands in TEN wouldn't he be the WR1? Sure Collins is nothing to write home about, but they've got a pretty capable OL right?
He'd have to beat out Britt for this of course :eek:
To be honest I haven't really been following the TEN WRs very closely. Didn't Britt have a hamstring injury? Is he back to 100%? I know Washington is still dinged up.
and from what I've seen Gage looks pretty good.
 
Anyone still rostering Matt Jones?
I am waiting to see where he ends up.If he signs in Tennessee, I will not touch him.

If he signs in Chicago or New York, I'll probably grab him as a reserve WR and give him 3 or 4 weeks to see what he can do.

As for other teams, I'll look at this on a case by case basis.
I'm curious about this statement. If he lands in TEN wouldn't he be the WR1? Sure Collins is nothing to write home about, but they've got a pretty capable OL right?
1. If he is still unsigned, Titans will sign him on Friday (after game 1 so salary isn't guaranteed).2. He'll be the WR 3/4 after Washington and Gage, but alongside Britt.

3. No, Britt isn't injured.

4. FF-wise, I think that Washington and Gage are good WR2/3 and Scaife/Cook will be good TE if you don't have one of the elite group. I bet Cook has 50+ catches for at least 600 yards this year.

 
Anyone still rostering Matt Jones?
I am waiting to see where he ends up.If he signs in Tennessee, I will not touch him.

If he signs in Chicago or New York, I'll probably grab him as a reserve WR and give him 3 or 4 weeks to see what he can do.

As for other teams, I'll look at this on a case by case basis.
I'm curious about this statement. If he lands in TEN wouldn't he be the WR1? Sure Collins is nothing to write home about, but they've got a pretty capable OL right?
1. If he is still unsigned, Titans will sign him on Friday (after game 1 so salary isn't guaranteed).2. He'll be the WR 3/4 after Washington and Gage, but alongside Britt.

3. No, Britt isn't injured.

4. FF-wise, I think that Washington and Gage are good WR2/3 and Scaife/Cook will be good TE if you don't have one of the elite group. I bet Cook has 50+ catches for at least 600 yards this year.
Schefter said the other day that if he was on the week 1 roster, his salary is guarenteed, so they might have to wait until all week 1 games are done.
 
To be honest I haven't really been following the TEN WRs very closely. Didn't Britt have a hamstring injury? Is he back to 100%? I know Washington is still dinged up.
and from what I've seen Gage looks pretty good.
Washington has the hammy I think which has kept Britt in with the first teamers. Britt has had a couple dings here and there but not much. Working with Rod Smith all offseason probably gave him some vet tips on how to skip a practice or two :shrug:Gage is nice but he is not WR1 or even WR2 on just about any other team in the league outside the Rams. In all honesty I just have man love for Britt this year. I think I have him in every single league I am in except for the one with the really short bench. I may fall flat on my face with this but he's the rookie I'm backing the most this year. I really like Nicks and Harvin to some degree but Britt despite the passing offense is the guy I like this year and would hate it if Jones signed there. Part of the reason Britt is so high on my list is the lack of competition in front of him.
 
To be honest I haven't really been following the TEN WRs very closely. Didn't Britt have a hamstring injury? Is he back to 100%? I know Washington is still dinged up.
and from what I've seen Gage looks pretty good.
Washington has the hammy I think which has kept Britt in with the first teamers. Britt has had a couple dings here and there but not much. Working with Rod Smith all offseason probably gave him some vet tips on how to skip a practice or two :thumbup:Gage is nice but he is not WR1 or even WR2 on just about any other team in the league outside the Rams. In all honesty I just have man love for Britt this year. I think I have him in every single league I am in except for the one with the really short bench. I may fall flat on my face with this but he's the rookie I'm backing the most this year. I really like Nicks and Harvin to some degree but Britt despite the passing offense is the guy I like this year and would hate it if Jones signed there. Part of the reason Britt is so high on my list is the lack of competition in front of him.
FWIW I like him too and thought he looked great in the preseason. He looks like he belongs and made so tough grabs.
 
To be honest I haven't really been following the TEN WRs very closely. Didn't Britt have a hamstring injury? Is he back to 100%? I know Washington is still dinged up.
and from what I've seen Gage looks pretty good.
Washington has the hammy I think which has kept Britt in with the first teamers. Britt has had a couple dings here and there but not much. Working with Rod Smith all offseason probably gave him some vet tips on how to skip a practice or two ;) Gage is nice but he is not WR1 or even WR2 on just about any other team in the league outside the Rams.

In all honesty I just have man love for Britt this year. I think I have him in every single league I am in except for the one with the really short bench. I may fall flat on my face with this but he's the rookie I'm backing the most this year. I really like Nicks and Harvin to some degree but Britt despite the passing offense is the guy I like this year and would hate it if Jones signed there. Part of the reason Britt is so high on my list is the lack of competition in front of him.
FWIW I like him too and thought he looked great in the preseason. He looks like he belongs and made so tough grabs.
:hey: And if he goes off on Pittsburgh tomorrow I'm gonna lose my friggin mind!!! Extremely unlikely I know but I will be going nuts if he does...

 
To be honest I haven't really been following the TEN WRs very closely. Didn't Britt have a hamstring injury? Is he back to 100%? I know Washington is still dinged up.
and from what I've seen Gage looks pretty good.
Washington has the hammy I think which has kept Britt in with the first teamers. Britt has had a couple dings here and there but not much. Working with Rod Smith all offseason probably gave him some vet tips on how to skip a practice or two :hey:Gage is nice but he is not WR1 or even WR2 on just about any other team in the league outside the Rams. In all honesty I just have man love for Britt this year. I think I have him in every single league I am in except for the one with the really short bench. I may fall flat on my face with this but he's the rookie I'm backing the most this year. I really like Nicks and Harvin to some degree but Britt despite the passing offense is the guy I like this year and would hate it if Jones signed there. Part of the reason Britt is so high on my list is the lack of competition in front of him.
I think you will be surprised, Britt looks good but I have my doubts he will be a huge impact player this year. I think the person most Titan homers believe has a chance of really taking most people by surprise is Jared Cook. He is a TE but they have been using him in receiver sets. If I was betting on Britt or Cook I would say Cook is the one who will have a huge year for the Titans.
 
Anyone still rostering Matt Jones?
I am waiting to see where he ends up.If he signs in Tennessee, I will not touch him.

If he signs in Chicago or New York, I'll probably grab him as a reserve WR and give him 3 or 4 weeks to see what he can do.

As for other teams, I'll look at this on a case by case basis.
I'm curious about this statement. If he lands in TEN wouldn't he be the WR1? Sure Collins is nothing to write home about, but they've got a pretty capable OL right?
1. If he is still unsigned, Titans will sign him on Friday (after game 1 so salary isn't guaranteed).2. He'll be the WR 3/4 after Washington and Gage, but alongside Britt.

3. No, Britt isn't injured.

4. FF-wise, I think that Washington and Gage are good WR2/3 and Scaife/Cook will be good TE if you don't have one of the elite group. I bet Cook has 50+ catches for at least 600 yards this year.
Schefter said the other day that if he was on the week 1 roster, his salary is guarenteed, so they might have to wait until all week 1 games are done.
Good question, but that isn't the way it works. Titans and Steelers have a 3 day advantage on the rest of the leaque on this.
 
To be honest I haven't really been following the TEN WRs very closely. Didn't Britt have a hamstring injury? Is he back to 100%? I know Washington is still dinged up.
and from what I've seen Gage looks pretty good.
Washington has the hammy I think which has kept Britt in with the first teamers. Britt has had a couple dings here and there but not much. Working with Rod Smith all offseason probably gave him some vet tips on how to skip a practice or two :goodposting:Gage is nice but he is not WR1 or even WR2 on just about any other team in the league outside the Rams. In all honesty I just have man love for Britt this year. I think I have him in every single league I am in except for the one with the really short bench. I may fall flat on my face with this but he's the rookie I'm backing the most this year. I really like Nicks and Harvin to some degree but Britt despite the passing offense is the guy I like this year and would hate it if Jones signed there. Part of the reason Britt is so high on my list is the lack of competition in front of him.
I think you will be surprised, Britt looks good but I have my doubts he will be a huge impact player this year. I think the person most Titan homers believe has a chance of really taking most people by surprise is Jared Cook. He is a TE but they have been using him in receiver sets. If I was betting on Britt or Cook I would say Cook is the one who will have a huge year for the Titans.
I LOVE cook as well. But I'm going with odds here. It's rare that rookie WR's bust out and even rarer that rookie TE's do. Carlson had an outstanding rookie season at TE and his numbers weren't anywhere near what we saw in Royal but much rarer considering the position. /hijackBack to the Matt Jones watch - WHO?
 
To be honest I haven't really been following the TEN WRs very closely. Didn't Britt have a hamstring injury? Is he back to 100%? I know Washington is still dinged up.
and from what I've seen Gage looks pretty good.
Washington has the hammy I think which has kept Britt in with the first teamers. Britt has had a couple dings here and there but not much. Working with Rod Smith all offseason probably gave him some vet tips on how to skip a practice or two :goodposting:Gage is nice but he is not WR1 or even WR2 on just about any other team in the league outside the Rams. In all honesty I just have man love for Britt this year. I think I have him in every single league I am in except for the one with the really short bench. I may fall flat on my face with this but he's the rookie I'm backing the most this year. I really like Nicks and Harvin to some degree but Britt despite the passing offense is the guy I like this year and would hate it if Jones signed there. Part of the reason Britt is so high on my list is the lack of competition in front of him.
I think you will be surprised, Britt looks good but I have my doubts he will be a huge impact player this year. I think the person most Titan homers believe has a chance of really taking most people by surprise is Jared Cook. He is a TE but they have been using him in receiver sets. If I was betting on Britt or Cook I would say Cook is the one who will have a huge year for the Titans.
I've read a ton of buzz on him, the Titans love the guy, they run a TE offense, he led rookies TEs in preseason with 17 receptions (was #2 overall behind J. Stupor - 19 - Buff - who?) so he definitely has peaked my interest. When you say he'll have a huge season are you talking J. Carlson/D. Keller 55-600 huge or even huger :lmao: ?
 
Good question, but that isn't the way it works. Titans and Steelers have a 3 day advantage on the rest of the leaque on this.
You sure about that? Because if so, on Friday Matt could sign a non-guaranteed contract with Pitt or Tenn for example and any other team in the league would have to sign him to a guaranteed contract. That doesn't seem like something the NFL would consider fair. But I guess if the rule is worded with "player not on your opening day 53 man roster" or something like that it would be a loophole of sorts.
 
Good question, but that isn't the way it works. Titans and Steelers have a 3 day advantage on the rest of the leaque on this.
You sure about that? Because if so, on Friday Matt could sign a non-guaranteed contract with Pitt or Tenn for example and any other team in the league would have to sign him to a guaranteed contract. That doesn't seem like something the NFL would consider fair. But I guess if the rule is worded with "player not on your opening day 53 man roster" or something like that it would be a loophole of sorts.
Take this with a grain of salt but from what I have been reading on Titan forums is that Pitt and Tenn get a three day advantage due to the way that the rules have been written.
 
Why is there three pages of discussion over a free agent who has accomplished nothing?
Was a solid FF WR3 last year. This is a FF message board and a thread with his name in the title.Weird....
When he played he was a decent WR2. He got all those stats in about 12 games IIRC (missed do to injury or suspenion)Up until he got hurt, we was in the top 24 Wrs (even missing early games IIRC)and because its the NFL. SIZE and SPEED cannot be coached. If the player matures (as it seems he may have) He has the tools and the mindset (i think it helps being a former QB) he could be an absolute monster in the right scheme.
 
Anyone still rostering Matt Jones?
I am waiting to see where he ends up.If he signs in Tennessee, I will not touch him.If he signs in Chicago or New York, I'll probably grab him as a reserve WR and give him 3 or 4 weeks to see what he can do.As for other teams, I'll look at this on a case by case basis.
Kerry collins ain't spectacular. But he's accurate, and their o is running based. That seems a recipe for good short outs/curls and play actionopps for a guy with his skill set.
 
Weapon of Mass Instruction said:
PC Load Letter said:
Anyone still rostering Matt Jones?
I am waiting to see where he ends up.If he signs in Tennessee, I will not touch him.

If he signs in Chicago or New York, I'll probably grab him as a reserve WR and give him 3 or 4 weeks to see what he can do.

As for other teams, I'll look at this on a case by case basis.
I'm curious about this statement. If he lands in TEN wouldn't he be the WR1? Sure Collins is nothing to write home about, but they've got a pretty capable OL right?
1. If he is still unsigned, Titans will sign him on Friday (after game 1 so salary isn't guaranteed).2. He'll be the WR 3/4 after Washington and Gage, but alongside Britt.

3. No, Britt isn't injured.

4. FF-wise, I think that Washington and Gage are good WR2/3 and Scaife/Cook will be good TE if you don't have one of the elite group. I bet Cook has 50+ catches for at least 600 yards this year.
can they sign him before the other teams play game one? Seems like an unfair advantage kind of.
 
Banger said:
jwinston2 said:
TheFanatic said:
Banger said:
PC Load Letter said:
To be honest I haven't really been following the TEN WRs very closely. Didn't Britt have a hamstring injury? Is he back to 100%? I know Washington is still dinged up.
and from what I've seen Gage looks pretty good.
Washington has the hammy I think which has kept Britt in with the first teamers. Britt has had a couple dings here and there but not much. Working with Rod Smith all offseason probably gave him some vet tips on how to skip a practice or two ;)Gage is nice but he is not WR1 or even WR2 on just about any other team in the league outside the Rams. In all honesty I just have man love for Britt this year. I think I have him in every single league I am in except for the one with the really short bench. I may fall flat on my face with this but he's the rookie I'm backing the most this year. I really like Nicks and Harvin to some degree but Britt despite the passing offense is the guy I like this year and would hate it if Jones signed there. Part of the reason Britt is so high on my list is the lack of competition in front of him.
I think you will be surprised, Britt looks good but I have my doubts he will be a huge impact player this year. I think the person most Titan homers believe has a chance of really taking most people by surprise is Jared Cook. He is a TE but they have been using him in receiver sets. If I was betting on Britt or Cook I would say Cook is the one who will have a huge year for the Titans.
I've read a ton of buzz on him, the Titans love the guy, they run a TE offense, he led rookies TEs in preseason with 17 receptions (was #2 overall behind J. Stupor - 19 - Buff - who?) so he definitely has peaked my interest. When you say he'll have a huge season are you talking J. Carlson/D. Keller 55-600 huge or even huger :) ?
Well right now he is a game time decision, if he can go and is used like has been hinted I can easily see him getting 500-600 yards. If they do decide to play him in receiver sets, his upside is much greater, imo.
 
jwinston2 said:
Wadsworth said:
Weapon of Mass Instruction said:
Good question, but that isn't the way it works. Titans and Steelers have a 3 day advantage on the rest of the leaque on this.
You sure about that? Because if so, on Friday Matt could sign a non-guaranteed contract with Pitt or Tenn for example and any other team in the league would have to sign him to a guaranteed contract. That doesn't seem like something the NFL would consider fair. But I guess if the rule is worded with "player not on your opening day 53 man roster" or something like that it would be a loophole of sorts.
Take this with a grain of salt but from what I have been reading on Titan forums is that Pitt and Tenn get a three day advantage due to the way that the rules have been written.
But if there are other teams courting him he could wait until they make an offer after Sunday and choose his team. He doesn't have to sign with the first offer he gets. Most likely a few teams are waiting on this.
 
jwinston2 said:
Wadsworth said:
Weapon of Mass Instruction said:
Good question, but that isn't the way it works. Titans and Steelers have a 3 day advantage on the rest of the leaque on this.
You sure about that? Because if so, on Friday Matt could sign a non-guaranteed contract with Pitt or Tenn for example and any other team in the league would have to sign him to a guaranteed contract. That doesn't seem like something the NFL would consider fair. But I guess if the rule is worded with "player not on your opening day 53 man roster" or something like that it would be a loophole of sorts.
Take this with a grain of salt but from what I have been reading on Titan forums is that Pitt and Tenn get a three day advantage due to the way that the rules have been written.
Ya, this doesn't sound quite right. As Wadsworth mentioned, the wording may be the loophole if there is one. "Opening day roster" and "Week One roster" are two entirely different pieces of criteria in this case. I wish I knew the answer. However, this may also come down to a transaction stipulation of some kind. I don't know that any transactions can be made within X number of hours prior to the week's first games and then X number of hours after a given week. Thus making Tuesday the target date for any given team on any given week during the season. I don't know, I'm just floating it out there. But it seems to me that transactions generally aren't made over in-season weekends. Not that I can recall anyway.Anybody?

 
jwinston2 said:
Wadsworth said:
Weapon of Mass Instruction said:
Good question, but that isn't the way it works. Titans and Steelers have a 3 day advantage on the rest of the leaque on this.
You sure about that? Because if so, on Friday Matt could sign a non-guaranteed contract with Pitt or Tenn for example and any other team in the league would have to sign him to a guaranteed contract. That doesn't seem like something the NFL would consider fair. But I guess if the rule is worded with "player not on your opening day 53 man roster" or something like that it would be a loophole of sorts.
Take this with a grain of salt but from what I have been reading on Titan forums is that Pitt and Tenn get a three day advantage due to the way that the rules have been written.
Ya, this doesn't sound quite right. As Wadsworth mentioned, the wording may be the loophole if there is one. "Opening day roster" and "Week One roster" are two entirely different pieces of criteria in this case. I wish I knew the answer. However, this may also come down to a transaction stipulation of some kind. I don't know that any transactions can be made within X number of hours prior to the week's first games and then X number of hours after a given week. Thus making Tuesday the target date for any given team on any given week during the season. I don't know, I'm just floating it out there. But it seems to me that transactions generally aren't made over in-season weekends. Not that I can recall anyway.Anybody?
I wish I knew, I've been trying to look it up with no success. It seems like a pretty big deal if Pitt and Tenn can sign players non-guaranteed on Friday but all other NFL teams have to guarantee any contact signed before next week.
 
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jwinston2 said:
Wadsworth said:
Weapon of Mass Instruction said:
Good question, but that isn't the way it works. Titans and Steelers have a 3 day advantage on the rest of the leaque on this.
You sure about that? Because if so, on Friday Matt could sign a non-guaranteed contract with Pitt or Tenn for example and any other team in the league would have to sign him to a guaranteed contract. That doesn't seem like something the NFL would consider fair. But I guess if the rule is worded with "player not on your opening day 53 man roster" or something like that it would be a loophole of sorts.
Take this with a grain of salt but from what I have been reading on Titan forums is that Pitt and Tenn get a three day advantage due to the way that the rules have been written.
Ya, this doesn't sound quite right. As Wadsworth mentioned, the wording may be the loophole if there is one. "Opening day roster" and "Week One roster" are two entirely different pieces of criteria in this case. I wish I knew the answer. However, this may also come down to a transaction stipulation of some kind. I don't know that any transactions can be made within X number of hours prior to the week's first games and then X number of hours after a given week. Thus making Tuesday the target date for any given team on any given week during the season. I don't know, I'm just floating it out there. But it seems to me that transactions generally aren't made over in-season weekends. Not that I can recall anyway.Anybody?
Pit and Ten do get a 3 day advantage and I can see each of them taking advantage of it if they need to. Why not?Players do get signed later Andy. Sometimes Saturday before Sunday games. Might be a 24 hour window, I'm not sure if there is a deadline. It would make sense though.

 
I am sure it is somewhere in here. Since the issue (guaranteed money to a player for being on the roster) is one that benefits the player, when other teams play games really might not come into play.

http://www.nflplayers.com/images/fck/NFL%2...%20-%202012.pdf
The only thing I could find uses the phase "after the beginning of the regular season". It doesn't specify if it's the beginning of the regular season for the team signing him or just the beginning of the NFL regular season. I can't copy and paste since it's a pdf file but:

Article xxiii section 2: Regular Season Signings:

The termination pay under this article of any player who is terminated from a contract which was signed after the beginning of the regular season in which he is terminated shall be limited to.... then a bunch more legal talk.

I don't think that answers any questions at this point.

 
Local radio station in Nashville, Titans' Flagship by the way, just reported that the Titans will sign Matt Jones on Friday to a league minimum contract.

No link, no proof...but they said it rather definitively.

Website is 103wkdf.com but nothing is on the site at the moment.

 

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