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I say Leinart is will get more playing time.
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Until he gets hurt....should be week 5 at the latest.Warner will start until he gets hurt. With those receivers and Edge, it will be hard for Warner to fail.
Perhaps, or an Eli Manning situation.Is Warner pissed? Twice in 3 years.I'm feeling a Carson Palmer type situation.
I feel bad for BrendaI feel bad for Kurt.
Hmm...no I feel bad for Kurt.I feel bad for BrendaI feel bad for Kurt.
5 weeks! Warner just got hurt thinking about playing 5 weeks.Until he gets hurt....should be week 5 at the latest.Warner will start until he gets hurt. With those receivers and Edge, it will be hard for Warner to fail.
I think Warner has to realize his remaining time in the NFL is short. Warner's been to two Super Bowls, winning one. He is a hero to all supermarket employees who dream of being in the NFL. He's put up some of the best single seasons for a QB in NFL history. I can't feel bad for Warner.I would've felt bad for Brees if New Orleans had taken a QB.I feel bad for Kurt.
While the Cardinals selection of Southern California quarterback Matt Leinart in last weekend's draft caused waves of excitement throughout the Valley, it wasn't great news in at least one household.John Navarre, entering his third season with the team, will now have serious competition to back up Kurt Warner.
Exactly. If Warner stays healthy and he gets protection (which I think both will happen) Warner will be going to Hawii in Feb. I'm sure people will razz me for saying this but when healthy with protection Warner is one of the best in the bizz.Matt will compete next season for the starting position. Of course if there is injury involved all bets are off. I know there was hype around the Cards last season and it did not pan out but I honestly expect the Cards to have a 05 Bears like season. I don't think they will win they same way as the Bears but none the less get more W'sDennis Green said on the radio yesterday that Warner is clear starter for 2006.
No ifs, ands or buts.
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Denny Green is a PR mastermind (argument for and against him). As long as Warner starts, Green would still have the option to score a PR win if the Cards start off losing and he can still make a quarterback switch to the young guy. What would prevent him from doing this is Warner winning.They interviewed Denny Green at about 2:15. He said Warner is the starter. Leinart competes for the backup spot this season.
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I feel bad for David Woodley. That guy got screwed.
Denny Green is the biggest lier ever.He says one thing, then does a 180. He did this with the 'Josh McCown is our guy,' only to bench him several weeks into the season, and his history with QB switches is apparent. I see them developing this guy like Culpepper, but still...They interviewed Denny Green at about 2:15. He said Warner is the starter. Leinart competes for the backup spot this season.
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Barring a pre-season injury to Warner this is a ridiculous statement. Leinart will likely be one of the last first-rounders to agree to a contract, thus missing a chunck of camp, reps, playbook, etc. and Green knows that starting a rookie QB in Week 1 is the surest way to miss the playoffs - not gonna happen!Depending on how he looks in preseason, I could see Leinhard stepping in and starting in Week 1.
Honestly, if he doesn't look supergreen (which I don't expect him to) why not play him right away to get those first lumps out of the way?
With all those weapons its not exactly like throwing the guy to the wolves.
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Is it just me, or does a guy who calls him "Leinhard" lose immediate credibility anyway? It's not like we haven't seen Leinart's name written a million times the last 3 years, yet on this board this week I've seen his name spelled Linehart, Leinhart (a lot!), Leinhert, Leinert, Linart, and now Leinhard. Don't people see what they are reading?Barring a pre-season injury to Warner this is a ridiculous statement. Leinart will likely be one of the last first-rounders to agree to a contract, thus missing a chunck of camp, reps, playbook, etc. and Green knows that starting a rookie QB in Week 1 is the surest way to miss the playoffs - not gonna happen!Depending on how he looks in preseason, I could see Leinhard stepping in and starting in Week 1.
Honestly, if he doesn't look supergreen (which I don't expect him to) why not play him right away to get those first lumps out of the way?
With all those weapons its not exactly like throwing the guy to the wolves.
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Warner until he gets hurt, period!
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Lionheart? Great movie, btwIs it just me, or does a guy who calls him "Leinhard" lose immediate credibility anyway? It's not like we haven't seen Leinart's name written a million times the last 3 years, yet on this board this week I've seen his name spelled Linehart, Leinhart (a lot!), Leinhert, Leinert, Linart, and now Leinhard. Don't people see what they are reading?Barring a pre-season injury to Warner this is a ridiculous statement. Leinart will likely be one of the last first-rounders to agree to a contract, thus missing a chunck of camp, reps, playbook, etc. and Green knows that starting a rookie QB in Week 1 is the surest way to miss the playoffs - not gonna happen!Depending on how he looks in preseason, I could see Leinhard stepping in and starting in Week 1.
Honestly, if he doesn't look supergreen (which I don't expect him to) why not play him right away to get those first lumps out of the way?
With all those weapons its not exactly like throwing the guy to the wolves.
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Warner until he gets hurt, period!
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With one big difference, they didn't pay NcCown what they paid Warner so it was alot easier to move off McCown.Denny Green is the biggest lier ever.He says one thing, then does a 180. He did this with the 'Josh McCown is our guy,' only to bench him several weeks into the season, and his history with QB switches is apparent. I see them developing this guy like Culpepper, but still...They interviewed Denny Green at about 2:15. He said Warner is the starter. Leinart competes for the backup spot this season.
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Haha I do love me some typo police. And while living in LA I've seen probably over 50% of Leinart's games, I fully admit to having a consistant brainfart and calling him Leinhart (bet you money I do it in this post....). The "d" was a typo though.Is it just me, or does a guy who calls him "Leinhard" lose immediate credibility anyway? It's not like we haven't seen Leinart's name written a million times the last 3 years, yet on this board this week I've seen his name spelled Linehart, Leinhart (a lot!), Leinhert, Leinert, Linart, and now Leinhard. Don't people see what they are reading?Barring a pre-season injury to Warner this is a ridiculous statement. Leinart will likely be one of the last first-rounders to agree to a contract, thus missing a chunck of camp, reps, playbook, etc. and Green knows that starting a rookie QB in Week 1 is the surest way to miss the playoffs - not gonna happen!Depending on how he looks in preseason, I could see Leinhard stepping in and starting in Week 1.
Honestly, if he doesn't look supergreen (which I don't expect him to) why not play him right away to get those first lumps out of the way?
With all those weapons its not exactly like throwing the guy to the wolves.
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Warner until he gets hurt, period!
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Agreed but you'd be hardpressed to find another Top 10 rookie QB walking into a situation where he who would have two All PRo WRs and an All Pro RB to work with.The reason they are taken along slowly is bc the team is usually complete and total crap on offense and they have no support.Anybody who thinks that Leinart is going to be the starter at the beginning of the season better buy a Whizzinator because they would fail the Ricky Williams test.
The history of the NFL is that very few qb's have been successful in their first year. Many of the best sat for a year or two learning the system, and gradually getting used to the speed of the pro game. Montana sat his first year, Young wasn't successful at first, Favre sat his first year, Elway played 11 games and threw 7 td's and 14 int's. Marino is the exception, not the rule.
In Warner the Cards have qb who has proven he can be very very good if he has a line to protect him, and good receivers. Warner starts this year, unless he gets injured.
Additionally, the Cards signed a RB this year who is 28 and has two or three years of really good production left. They want to make the playoffs this year, not rebuild for 2 years down the road.
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Kurt Warner has two MVP trophies and has led his team to two SBs, winning one. Few men who have EVER played QB in the NFL can say as much. Leinart hasn't even signed a contract yet. You are r-e-a-c-h-i-n-g...Haha I do love me some typo police. And while living in LA I've seen probably over 50% of Leinart's games, I fully admit to having a consistant brainfart and calling him Leinhart (bet you money I do it in this post....). The "d" was a typo though.Is it just me, or does a guy who calls him "Leinhard" lose immediate credibility anyway? It's not like we haven't seen Leinart's name written a million times the last 3 years, yet on this board this week I've seen his name spelled Linehart, Leinhart (a lot!), Leinhert, Leinert, Linart, and now Leinhard. Don't people see what they are reading?Barring a pre-season injury to Warner this is a ridiculous statement. Leinart will likely be one of the last first-rounders to agree to a contract, thus missing a chunck of camp, reps, playbook, etc. and Green knows that starting a rookie QB in Week 1 is the surest way to miss the playoffs - not gonna happen!Depending on how he looks in preseason, I could see Leinhard stepping in and starting in Week 1.
Honestly, if he doesn't look supergreen (which I don't expect him to) why not play him right away to get those first lumps out of the way?
With all those weapons its not exactly like throwing the guy to the wolves.
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Warner until he gets hurt, period!
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I dont think its all that unrealsitic that Leinart starts the season. The Cards just sank a #### ton of money into a new stadium. They spent $$ on Edge. They want to excite the fan base.
Kurt Warner does not excite the fan base.
Are you going to tell me that if Matt Leinart looks awesome in preseason, in series with the starters, that Denny Green won't feel pressure to play the kid?
I'm just saying, far more plausible than I think most people seem to think.
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Oh for sure it's a reach. But wouldn't be much of a thread if everyone said Warner was the surefire starter would it?Kurt Warner has two MVP trophies and has led his team to two SBs, winning one. Few men who have EVER played QB in the NFL can say as much. Leinart hasn't even signed a contract yet. You are r-e-a-c-h-i-n-g...Haha I do love me some typo police. And while living in LA I've seen probably over 50% of Leinart's games, I fully admit to having a consistant brainfart and calling him Leinhart (bet you money I do it in this post....). The "d" was a typo though.Is it just me, or does a guy who calls him "Leinhard" lose immediate credibility anyway? It's not like we haven't seen Leinart's name written a million times the last 3 years, yet on this board this week I've seen his name spelled Linehart, Leinhart (a lot!), Leinhert, Leinert, Linart, and now Leinhard. Don't people see what they are reading?Barring a pre-season injury to Warner this is a ridiculous statement. Leinart will likely be one of the last first-rounders to agree to a contract, thus missing a chunck of camp, reps, playbook, etc. and Green knows that starting a rookie QB in Week 1 is the surest way to miss the playoffs - not gonna happen!Depending on how he looks in preseason, I could see Leinhard stepping in and starting in Week 1.
Honestly, if he doesn't look supergreen (which I don't expect him to) why not play him right away to get those first lumps out of the way?
With all those weapons its not exactly like throwing the guy to the wolves.
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Warner until he gets hurt, period!
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I dont think its all that unrealsitic that Leinart starts the season. The Cards just sank a #### ton of money into a new stadium. They spent $$ on Edge. They want to excite the fan base.
Kurt Warner does not excite the fan base.
Are you going to tell me that if Matt Leinart looks awesome in preseason, in series with the starters, that Denny Green won't feel pressure to play the kid?
I'm just saying, far more plausible than I think most people seem to think.
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Hey Tom,I should have added some after my post. I was just playing. Sorry if it didn't come across that way my friend.Haha I do love me some typo police. And while living in LA I've seen probably over 50% of Leinart's games, I fully admit to having a consistant brainfart and calling him Leinhart (bet you money I do it in this post....). The "d" was a typo though.Is it just me, or does a guy who calls him "Leinhard" lose immediate credibility anyway? It's not like we haven't seen Leinart's name written a million times the last 3 years, yet on this board this week I've seen his name spelled Linehart, Leinhart (a lot!), Leinhert, Leinert, Linart, and now Leinhard. Don't people see what they are reading?Barring a pre-season injury to Warner this is a ridiculous statement. Leinart will likely be one of the last first-rounders to agree to a contract, thus missing a chunck of camp, reps, playbook, etc. and Green knows that starting a rookie QB in Week 1 is the surest way to miss the playoffs - not gonna happen!Depending on how he looks in preseason, I could see Leinhard stepping in and starting in Week 1.
Honestly, if he doesn't look supergreen (which I don't expect him to) why not play him right away to get those first lumps out of the way?
With all those weapons its not exactly like throwing the guy to the wolves.
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Warner until he gets hurt, period!
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I dont think its all that unrealsitic that Leinart starts the season. The Cards just sank a #### ton of money into a new stadium. They spent $$ on Edge. They want to excite the fan base.
Kurt Warner does not excite the fan base.
Are you going to tell me that if Matt Leinart looks awesome in preseason, in series with the starters, that Denny Green won't feel pressure to play the kid?
I'm just saying, far more plausible than I think most people seem to think.
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Actually everyone in this thread has stated that Warner WILL be the starterexcept you...Oh for sure it's a reach. But wouldn't be much of a thread if everyone said Warner was the surefire starter would it?Kurt Warner has two MVP trophies and has led his team to two SBs, winning one. Few men who have EVER played QB in the NFL can say as much. Leinart hasn't even signed a contract yet. You are r-e-a-c-h-i-n-g...Haha I do love me some typo police. And while living in LA I've seen probably over 50% of Leinart's games, I fully admit to having a consistant brainfart and calling him Leinhart (bet you money I do it in this post....). The "d" was a typo though.Is it just me, or does a guy who calls him "Leinhard" lose immediate credibility anyway? It's not like we haven't seen Leinart's name written a million times the last 3 years, yet on this board this week I've seen his name spelled Linehart, Leinhart (a lot!), Leinhert, Leinert, Linart, and now Leinhard. Don't people see what they are reading?Barring a pre-season injury to Warner this is a ridiculous statement. Leinart will likely be one of the last first-rounders to agree to a contract, thus missing a chunck of camp, reps, playbook, etc. and Green knows that starting a rookie QB in Week 1 is the surest way to miss the playoffs - not gonna happen!Depending on how he looks in preseason, I could see Leinhard stepping in and starting in Week 1.
Honestly, if he doesn't look supergreen (which I don't expect him to) why not play him right away to get those first lumps out of the way?
With all those weapons its not exactly like throwing the guy to the wolves.
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Warner until he gets hurt, period!
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I dont think its all that unrealsitic that Leinart starts the season. The Cards just sank a #### ton of money into a new stadium. They spent $$ on Edge. They want to excite the fan base.
Kurt Warner does not excite the fan base.
Are you going to tell me that if Matt Leinart looks awesome in preseason, in series with the starters, that Denny Green won't feel pressure to play the kid?
I'm just saying, far more plausible than I think most people seem to think.
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My exact point! You unimaginative lot of consensus!Actually everyone in this thread has stated that Warner WILL be the starter
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I'm going to start a poll as to whether or not the sun will rise tomorrow and then rail against all the sheep taking the chalk...My exact point! You unimaginative lot of consensus!Actually everyone in this thread has stated that Warner WILL be the starter
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Next thread - who is the starting QB for the Colts?I'm going to start a poll as to whether or not the sun will rise tomorrow and then rail against all the sheep taking the chalk...My exact point! You unimaginative lot of consensus!Actually everyone in this thread has stated that Warner WILL be the starter
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Next thread - who is the starting QB for the Colts?I'm going to start a poll as to whether or not the sun will rise tomorrow and then rail against all the sheep taking the chalk...My exact point! You unimaginative lot of consensus!Actually everyone in this thread has stated that Warner WILL be the starter
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For purposes of answering the question, it is.So now Warner is Manning and Leinart is Sorgi? Fair analogy.
This really shouldn't be a question at all, in anyone's mind.2007 OTOH, is a completely different story.This thread should be deleted for idiocy...Warner is the starter until he gets injured.