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Anyone have a summary of how he performed?
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Max Power
Footballguy
just a clipping I came across...
BOSTON (AP) -- The NFL got its chance to see Matt Ryan throw on Tuesday, and the Boston College quarterback didn't do anything that would keep him from being picked early in the draft.
Perhaps even first overall.
Ryan worked out at BC's biggest Pro Day ever, throwing to former teammates for a mini-combine of 42 scouts and other personnel evaluators from 22 NFL teams. He completed 48 of 52 passes -- three drops, one overthrown -- from three-, five- and seven step drops, from the pocket and on the run, throwing to both sides of the field.
BOSTON (AP) -- The NFL got its chance to see Matt Ryan throw on Tuesday, and the Boston College quarterback didn't do anything that would keep him from being picked early in the draft.
Perhaps even first overall.
Ryan worked out at BC's biggest Pro Day ever, throwing to former teammates for a mini-combine of 42 scouts and other personnel evaluators from 22 NFL teams. He completed 48 of 52 passes -- three drops, one overthrown -- from three-, five- and seven step drops, from the pocket and on the run, throwing to both sides of the field.
heard on Fox radio that the pro day package of plays they ran avoided all of the tough throws.When they throw at the combine, the NFL guys set up the package to include the deep outs, digs and flag patterns. The interviewee felt Ryan avoided the combine and avoided making all of the tough throws.He was not impressed.
FUBAR
Footballguy
FWIW, I'll never be impressed by a QB's pro day. They're designed to show strengths and hide weakness. Games and even the combine mean more.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Been pretty quiet so far on the Pro Day, at least from the usual sources. Both Herm and Carl Peterson were in attendance, but I haven't seen comments from either.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Mike Mayock just reported that Ryan had a "very good" workout.
"Big arm...which we already knew"
"A better athlete than many expected"
"A few of his balls fluttered but by and large he proved he can make all the necessary throws"
Mayock said Miami (1.01), Atlanta (1.03), KC (1.05), and Baltimore (1.08) were there, while St. Louis (1.02), Oakland (1.04), NY Jets (1.06) and the Pats (1.07) were not.
"Big arm...which we already knew"
"A better athlete than many expected"
"A few of his balls fluttered but by and large he proved he can make all the necessary throws"
Mayock said Miami (1.01), Atlanta (1.03), KC (1.05), and Baltimore (1.08) were there, while St. Louis (1.02), Oakland (1.04), NY Jets (1.06) and the Pats (1.07) were not.
Boston
Footballguy
Ryan on his workout
Link|Comments (2) Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 18, 2008 05:11 PM
CHESTNUT HILL -- BC quarterback Matt Ryan commented on his workout at Pro Day.
“I thought it went well," he said. "It was the first opportunity that I had to throw in front of the scouts live. I went out there and had 52 passes. I thought I showed that I could make every throw you need to make in the NFL. We went through the entire route tree and showed that I could throw on the run. Again, it’s all stuff they can see on tape and I just wanted to show what I could do in person.”
Asked about Herm Edwards’s assessment that he pressed a bit, Ryan said: “Not really. It’s tough to go out there, because like [Herm] said, there’s no rush. It’s so atypical of what goes on in football. It’s so different from how you actually play. For me, I didn’t think I pressed. I thought I went out there and threw. The first couple throws are always a little rusty when you come up. I didn’t think they were too bad.”
Herm on Matt Ryan's workout
Link|Comments (5) Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 18, 2008 04:00 PM
CHESTNUT HILL -- BC quarterback Matt Ryan concluded his workout here at Pro Day and Chiefs coach Herman Edwards commented on the performance, which included 52 throws. Ryan was in shorts and a T-shirt, and did not throw against a defense.
"I thought he pressed a couple times, trying to throw the ball a little too hard," Edwards said. "That's generally what happens with quarterbacks, when you get the media there. It used to be 10-15 years ago, the workouts, five people were there. Now, depending who you are, what school you're at, and where people slate you being drafted, it becomes this. Which is kind of good, because it puts a lot of pressure on the kids, and the game everyone plays, there is going to be pressure on them. You look at that, and also understand that they're going to press some. He pressed some throws, but the thing this guy has is his ability to win. That's the thing you like about quarterbacks -- some guys win, some guys don't. You can look at all the stats, arm strength, you can look at all the different things, but at the end, can he win games? This guy has done that."
Vikings vice president of player personnel Rick Spielman agreed with Edwards's assessment that Ryan pressed, but also noted that he moves around better than advertised.
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/
Link|Comments (2) Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 18, 2008 05:11 PM
CHESTNUT HILL -- BC quarterback Matt Ryan commented on his workout at Pro Day.
“I thought it went well," he said. "It was the first opportunity that I had to throw in front of the scouts live. I went out there and had 52 passes. I thought I showed that I could make every throw you need to make in the NFL. We went through the entire route tree and showed that I could throw on the run. Again, it’s all stuff they can see on tape and I just wanted to show what I could do in person.”
Asked about Herm Edwards’s assessment that he pressed a bit, Ryan said: “Not really. It’s tough to go out there, because like [Herm] said, there’s no rush. It’s so atypical of what goes on in football. It’s so different from how you actually play. For me, I didn’t think I pressed. I thought I went out there and threw. The first couple throws are always a little rusty when you come up. I didn’t think they were too bad.”
Herm on Matt Ryan's workout
Link|Comments (5) Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 18, 2008 04:00 PM
CHESTNUT HILL -- BC quarterback Matt Ryan concluded his workout here at Pro Day and Chiefs coach Herman Edwards commented on the performance, which included 52 throws. Ryan was in shorts and a T-shirt, and did not throw against a defense.
"I thought he pressed a couple times, trying to throw the ball a little too hard," Edwards said. "That's generally what happens with quarterbacks, when you get the media there. It used to be 10-15 years ago, the workouts, five people were there. Now, depending who you are, what school you're at, and where people slate you being drafted, it becomes this. Which is kind of good, because it puts a lot of pressure on the kids, and the game everyone plays, there is going to be pressure on them. You look at that, and also understand that they're going to press some. He pressed some throws, but the thing this guy has is his ability to win. That's the thing you like about quarterbacks -- some guys win, some guys don't. You can look at all the stats, arm strength, you can look at all the different things, but at the end, can he win games? This guy has done that."
Vikings vice president of player personnel Rick Spielman agreed with Edwards's assessment that Ryan pressed, but also noted that he moves around better than advertised.
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
From Great Blue North Draft Report.
(7:15 PM): BC QB passes big test… Pro teams will still be going back and dissecting the tape from today‘s Boston College pro day featuring QB Matt Ryan, potentially a top 5 pick at next month‘s draft if he isn‘t the first player selected overall.
Indeed, 22 sent representatives to today‘s BC on-campus workout with two G.M.s (Carl Peterson of Kansas City and Caolina’s Matt Hurney) and one head coach (KC‘s Herm Edwards) in attendance. And the early consensus appears to be that while Ryan didn’t exactly blow the NFL execs in attendance away, he also didn’t do anything to hurt his curent grade.
According to the Chiefs’ Edwards, for example, Ryan was a little tight to start but that he is "going to play in our league, there’s no doubt about that. He has all the traits you need to play in our league. The thing this guy has is his ability to win. And that’s what you like in quarterback. Some guys can do a lot of things. But, in the end, can he win? He’s also very levelheaded. The players believe that if he has the ball in his hands at the end of the game, that you have a chance to win the game. He has that demeanor about himself. He’s fiery, but he keeps himself under control.
In the end, Ryan completed 48 of the 52 passes that he threw today - obviously with no rush or coverage - and said that he thought he showed that he could make every throw you need to make in the NFL and that he could throw on the run.
(7:15 PM): BC QB passes big test… Pro teams will still be going back and dissecting the tape from today‘s Boston College pro day featuring QB Matt Ryan, potentially a top 5 pick at next month‘s draft if he isn‘t the first player selected overall.
Indeed, 22 sent representatives to today‘s BC on-campus workout with two G.M.s (Carl Peterson of Kansas City and Caolina’s Matt Hurney) and one head coach (KC‘s Herm Edwards) in attendance. And the early consensus appears to be that while Ryan didn’t exactly blow the NFL execs in attendance away, he also didn’t do anything to hurt his curent grade.
According to the Chiefs’ Edwards, for example, Ryan was a little tight to start but that he is "going to play in our league, there’s no doubt about that. He has all the traits you need to play in our league. The thing this guy has is his ability to win. And that’s what you like in quarterback. Some guys can do a lot of things. But, in the end, can he win? He’s also very levelheaded. The players believe that if he has the ball in his hands at the end of the game, that you have a chance to win the game. He has that demeanor about himself. He’s fiery, but he keeps himself under control.
In the end, Ryan completed 48 of the 52 passes that he threw today - obviously with no rush or coverage - and said that he thought he showed that he could make every throw you need to make in the NFL and that he could throw on the run.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
[Herm] HELLO!!! You work out to get drafted!![/Herm]Looking forward to see what he can do in the NFL.He didn't have many weapons in BC and still was able to produce and showcase his ability.I think there were only a couple of games in which he did NOT throw an INT, so I will keep an eye on that, but I think he has great tools to work with at the next level.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
It's really tough to turn a blind eye to those 19 INTs. I hear all the reasons why those INTs aren't that big a concern, but for you draftniks, are there any examples of top tier NFL starters that were so prone to throwing picks in college? I'm honestly asking the question b/c I figure some of you have already looked into this.
Max Power
Footballguy
Here is a full list of scouts at the Proday. This list does include StL and N.E.http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr..._in_attend.html
Donnybrook
Footballguy
I am starting to come around to your way of thinking. I remember the last QB that had an excellent pro-day.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Derek Anderson threw 41 INTs his last two seasons.Eli threw 15 INTs as a junior.Grossman threw 17 INTs his last season. That's all I've got for guys drafted in the last five or six years, that have done much in the NFL so far.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Well, you know I'm hardly a believer in Derek Anderson yet, and Grossman does nothing for me. Eli is an interesting analog though. 1st overall pick, tough kid, and a Super Bowl winner. Similar too in that he played in a major conference on a team that didn't have a ton of weapons. Interesting. Good find Chase.
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
I heard he only threw 5 interceptions in 50 throws. That's improvement. 
FUBAR
Footballguy
I'm surprised to hear the Jets weren't there. The others won't be drafting a QB, but I thought the Jets might - at least enough of a possibility to send someone.
Cawdor
Footballguy
The guys on NFL network keep talking about how Dan Marino threw 23 ints his senior year in college.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
For me, the big question about the interceptions is what caused them:
a) Bad reads
b) Bad throws - either inaccurate or the DB jumped it due to lack of velocity
c) The QB just tried to make a play
If it's "C", which I suspect more often than not with Ryan, I can live with that if I'm an NFL GM/Coach. That stuff you can coach up.
"A" and "B" indicate a lack of athleticism and/or command of the position that is a lot harder to develop.
a) Bad reads
b) Bad throws - either inaccurate or the DB jumped it due to lack of velocity
c) The QB just tried to make a play
If it's "C", which I suspect more often than not with Ryan, I can live with that if I'm an NFL GM/Coach. That stuff you can coach up.
"A" and "B" indicate a lack of athleticism and/or command of the position that is a lot harder to develop.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
That's what I saw too.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
A combination of bad decisions (forcing too much) an bad reads was my observation too. I like this kid. And he deserves to be the first QB off the board. His intangibles are the kind that you look for, and he should be able to overcome his weaknesses with good coaching and experience, but the red flags are legit.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Yep...looks like I may have misinterpreted Mayock a bit. He went out of his way to point out that reps from Miami, KC, Atlanta and Baltimore were there. I assumed [you know what you get when you assume :( ] that he was tacitly implying the other teams picking that high were not. My bad as it ls like reps from all those teams were indeed present.rufan said:
greenf7cat
Footballguy
Has anyone heard that Ryan may be the "smartest" QB to be coming out this year? I am an ND fan, and I could have sworn that I heard a reference to Tom Brady (as far as football intelligence is concerned) when BC played the Irish in '07.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
just curious....when a student/athlete has a "Pro Day" at their college....who pays for it?
I realize it's mostly just use of facilities, etc.....but there has to be some cost in setting it up, etc....I'm sure lunch, etc is provided.........does the college pay for an athletes pro day........should they.....I know these guys help bring in revenue, but is it right for the school to incure the expense of a student's Pro Day.....?
do juniors and below get to have pro days.....?
Does he get to skip class on his Pro Day?
When do you think the last time was that any of the guys that are going to get drafted went to class? McFadden? Anybody that went to the combine?
stupid questions but just curious...........
I realize it's mostly just use of facilities, etc.....but there has to be some cost in setting it up, etc....I'm sure lunch, etc is provided.........does the college pay for an athletes pro day........should they.....I know these guys help bring in revenue, but is it right for the school to incure the expense of a student's Pro Day.....?
do juniors and below get to have pro days.....?
Does he get to skip class on his Pro Day?
When do you think the last time was that any of the guys that are going to get drafted went to class? McFadden? Anybody that went to the combine?
stupid questions but just curious...........
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JoeSteeler
Footballguy
I went to the Kent State pro day so maybe I can nswer a few of your questions. 1. The school pays for it. I was also told (thought not confirmed) that a player at any college within 50 miles is allowed to come and work out.2. lunch was not provided as far as I know. The scouts do get fed though. As far as I know the school pays for any costs incurred though I think they are minimal.3. I think the juniors are allowed to go work out at the pro days but have to do it again when they are a SR.4. I dont know anything about they skipping class.I am not an expert but I know two guys that worked out at Kent's pro day so I do have a little information.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
thanks....my question about juniors was for the ones that have decided to "go pro".....guess it would just seem a little funny if a school did this for someone that isn't even a senior yet..........
ffsoapbox:I think the school paying for it is fair. They get exposure from both the media and more importantly the NFL which it turn gives them something to brag about/lure potential recruits. With enough of those elite recruits the school goes to a bowl game and rakes in money from that as well as all their fans paying money throughout the season to watch the football team play. Like the saying goes, "you have to spend money to make money."I imagine that a number of the top prospects prolly stopped going to class as soon as the season ended.
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
Marino had a lot of picks his Senior year
