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Just curious where everyone has Ryan ranked in dynasty leagues...

This guy just continues to impress me and I'm wondering if he belongs in the discussion as a top 5 dynasty QB at this point. He has tremendous poise, can make all the throws, has great touch, good zip, and is surrounded by a young and talented supporting cast.

 
Just curious where everyone has Ryan ranked in dynasty leagues...This guy just continues to impress me and I'm wondering if he belongs in the discussion as a top 5 dynasty QB at this point. He has tremendous poise, can make all the throws, has great touch, good zip, and is surrounded by a young and talented supporting cast.
Its still early, but the guy has been the best looking rookie QB i have ever seen. I wouldnt trade him for any QB other than the top 5-7 in dynasty leagues.
 
Top 5? No way. Maybe next year, but he hasn't earned that yet.

He's an ideal QB2 in dynasty leagues. You don't want to put yourself in a position to rely on him, but he's already a capable FF backup and he has the upside to develop into a frontline QB1. I would put him slightly behind guys like Rodgers and Edwards.

I'm impressed by his poise and I think he's probably going to be a solid NFL starter for a long time. The question now is how good will he be? Campbell? Hasselbeck? Manning? Hard to say until we see more.

 
Just curious where everyone has Ryan ranked in dynasty leagues...

This guy just continues to impress me and I'm wondering if he belongs in the discussion as a top 5 dynasty QB at this point. He has tremendous poise, can make all the throws, has great touch, good zip, and is surrounded by a young and talented supporting cast.
Its still early, but the guy has been the best looking rookie QB i have ever seen. I wouldnt trade him for any QB other than the top 5-7 in dynasty leagues.
I agree with this. He doesn't look like a rookie at all... All of the things that tend to trip up rookie QB's, he seems to have hurdled with ease. And I'd say we probably value him about the same. I definitely think he's top ten.
 
Top 5? No way. Maybe next year, but he hasn't earned that yet. He's an ideal QB2 in dynasty leagues. You don't want to put yourself in a position to rely on him, but he's already a capable FF backup and he has the upside to develop into a frontline QB1. I would put him slightly behind guys like Rodgers and Edwards.I'm impressed by his poise and I think he's probably going to be a solid NFL starter for a long time. The question now is how good will he be? Campbell? Hasselbeck? Manning? Hard to say until we see more.
Campbell :D Ryan has done more in 7 games than Cambell has done in his career. Again, i know its early, but Hasselbeck seems to be his floor.
 
Top 5? No way. Maybe next year, but he hasn't earned that yet. He's an ideal QB2 in dynasty leagues. You don't want to put yourself in a position to rely on him, but he's already a capable FF backup and he has the upside to develop into a frontline QB1. I would put him slightly behind guys like Rodgers and Edwards.I'm impressed by his poise and I think he's probably going to be a solid NFL starter for a long time. The question now is how good will he be? Campbell? Hasselbeck? Manning? Hard to say until we see more.
Campbell :thumbup: Ryan has done more in 7 games than Cambell has done in his career. Again, i know its early, but Hasselbeck seems to be his floor.
I agree. I would say that Ryan probably has the edge on Campbell in redraft leagues right now. I take him hands down in dynasty leagues. And that's high praise because I actually like Campbell a lot. Ryan performed very well in his first four games in the NFL, but let's just look at his last four games since it takes a bit for rookies to acclimate themselves to a new league and system: 78 of 122, 992 yards, 7 TDs, 3 INTs. That's a crazy good four game stretch for any QB, let alone a rookie. And it's not like he was facing vanilla defenses. Even the Raiders have a solid secondary.
 
Just curious where everyone has Ryan ranked in dynasty leagues...

This guy just continues to impress me and I'm wondering if he belongs in the discussion as a top 5 dynasty QB at this point. He has tremendous poise, can make all the throws, has great touch, good zip, and is surrounded by a young and talented supporting cast.
Its still early, but the guy has been the best looking rookie QB i have ever seen. I wouldnt trade him for any QB other than the top 5-7 in dynasty leagues.
I agree with this.
Were you guys watching football in '83?
 
Top 5? No way. Maybe next year, but he hasn't earned that yet. He's an ideal QB2 in dynasty leagues. You don't want to put yourself in a position to rely on him, but he's already a capable FF backup and he has the upside to develop into a frontline QB1. I would put him slightly behind guys like Rodgers and Edwards.I'm impressed by his poise and I think he's probably going to be a solid NFL starter for a long time. The question now is how good will he be? Campbell? Hasselbeck? Manning? Hard to say until we see more.
You're right...but I can't help but think that no Ryan owner would move him for a typical QB2 price-tag. This is one of those scenarios where the players value will vary wildly depending on how strongly you emphasize this year versus FUTURE years. For a rebuilding squad...he's arguably a top-5 QB worthy of targetting. It's impossible to overlook his potential! For a playoff team, he's a backup you might move for decent RB or WR insurance or package for an upgrade somewhere.
 
Just curious where everyone has Ryan ranked in dynasty leagues...

This guy just continues to impress me and I'm wondering if he belongs in the discussion as a top 5 dynasty QB at this point. He has tremendous poise, can make all the throws, has great touch, good zip, and is surrounded by a young and talented supporting cast.
Its still early, but the guy has been the best looking rookie QB i have ever seen. I wouldnt trade him for any QB other than the top 5-7 in dynasty leagues.
I agree with this.
Were you guys watching football in '83?
I was one... so no. No rookie will ever compare to Marino. But Marino aside, who else has come out of the gates like Ryan?
 
Just curious where everyone has Ryan ranked in dynasty leagues...

This guy just continues to impress me and I'm wondering if he belongs in the discussion as a top 5 dynasty QB at this point. He has tremendous poise, can make all the throws, has great touch, good zip, and is surrounded by a young and talented supporting cast.
Its still early, but the guy has been the best looking rookie QB i have ever seen. I wouldnt trade him for any QB other than the top 5-7 in dynasty leagues.
I agree with this.
Were you guys watching football in '83?
Not really, i was only 10.
 
I was able to draft him at 2.01 (13th overall) in a dynasty rookie draft that took place in May this year. I had Philip Rivers and Brett Favre as my QB's and needed some QB help. I was ecstatic that he fell to me at 13 and drafted him with no hesitation. I have WR issues now and some RB issues but I would not trade Ryan unless I received a lesser QB and an upgrade at either position. I almost played him this week but went with Favre instead. It did not matter as none of my guys did anything worth while. I am hoping he does not have a sophomore slump.

 
Top 5? No way. Maybe next year, but he hasn't earned that yet.

He's an ideal QB2 in dynasty leagues. You don't want to put yourself in a position to rely on him, but he's already a capable FF backup and he has the upside to develop into a frontline QB1. I would put him slightly behind guys like Rodgers and Edwards.

I'm impressed by his poise and I think he's probably going to be a solid NFL starter for a long time. The question now is how good will he be? Campbell? Hasselbeck? Manning? Hard to say until we see more.
I agree with your assesment on M.Ryan; he's the ideal #2 and has big upside....probably should be ranked around 10 or so dyansty wise right now (not top 5 yet). But i think grouping Rodgers and T.Edwards together is a mistake...Rodgers is a legit Top 5 dynasty qb now. Edwards is probably 10-15 range.
 
Top 5? No way. Maybe next year, but he hasn't earned that yet.

He's an ideal QB2 in dynasty leagues. You don't want to put yourself in a position to rely on him, but he's already a capable FF backup and he has the upside to develop into a frontline QB1. I would put him slightly behind guys like Rodgers and Edwards.

I'm impressed by his poise and I think he's probably going to be a solid NFL starter for a long time. The question now is how good will he be? Campbell? Hasselbeck? Manning? Hard to say until we see more.
I agree with your assesment on M.Ryan; he's the ideal #2 and has big upside....probably should be ranked around 10 or so dyansty wise right now (not top 5 yet). But i think grouping Rodgers and T.Edwards together is a mistake...Rodgers is a legit Top 5 dynasty qb now. Edwards is probably 10-15 range.
:rolleyes: and im a Bills homer.
 
Top 5? No way. Maybe next year, but he hasn't earned that yet.

He's an ideal QB2 in dynasty leagues. You don't want to put yourself in a position to rely on him, but he's already a capable FF backup and he has the upside to develop into a frontline QB1. I would put him slightly behind guys like Rodgers and Edwards.

I'm impressed by his poise and I think he's probably going to be a solid NFL starter for a long time. The question now is how good will he be? Campbell? Hasselbeck? Manning? Hard to say until we see more.
I agree with your assesment on M.Ryan; he's the ideal #2 and has big upside....probably should be ranked around 10 or so dyansty wise right now (not top 5 yet). But i think grouping Rodgers and T.Edwards together is a mistake...Rodgers is a legit Top 5 dynasty qb now. Edwards is probably 10-15 range.
I'm not grouping them together other than saying I have both of them ahead of Ryan. Rodgers obviously plays in a much friendlier offense.
 
Top 5? No way. Maybe next year, but he hasn't earned that yet. He's an ideal QB2 in dynasty leagues. You don't want to put yourself in a position to rely on him, but he's already a capable FF backup and he has the upside to develop into a frontline QB1. I would put him slightly behind guys like Rodgers and Edwards.I'm impressed by his poise and I think he's probably going to be a solid NFL starter for a long time. The question now is how good will he be? Campbell? Hasselbeck? Manning? Hard to say until we see more.
Campbell :goodposting: Ryan has done more in 7 games than Cambell has done in his career. Again, i know its early, but Hasselbeck seems to be his floor.
I don't like Campbell either. Never have.All I'm really saying is that a top 5 ranking for Ryan presupposes a lot of improvement on his part. He might improve (most young QBs do), but he might not. Right now he's just a promising QB with a chance to become a star. Until he actually takes the next step as an FF QB, he shouldn't be ranked ahead of guys who are already there. I like him though. I saw some of the game today and was pretty impressed. Lots of young QBs look lost and scared. Not Ryan. He looked confident and commanding. I think he's going to be a solid player.
 
Top 5? No way. Maybe next year, but he hasn't earned that yet.

He's an ideal QB2 in dynasty leagues. You don't want to put yourself in a position to rely on him, but he's already a capable FF backup and he has the upside to develop into a frontline QB1. I would put him slightly behind guys like Rodgers and Edwards.

I'm impressed by his poise and I think he's probably going to be a solid NFL starter for a long time. The question now is how good will he be? Campbell? Hasselbeck? Manning? Hard to say until we see more.
Campbell :goodposting: Ryan has done more in 7 games than Cambell has done in his career. Again, i know its early, but Hasselbeck seems to be his floor.
I don't like Campbell either. Never have.All I'm really saying is that a top 5 ranking for Ryan presupposes a lot of improvement on his part.

He might improve (most young QBs do), but he might not. Right now he's just a promising QB with a chance to become a star. Until he actually takes the next step as an FF QB, he shouldn't be ranked ahead of guys who are already there.

I like him though. I saw some of the game today and was pretty impressed. Lots of young QBs look lost and scared. Not Ryan. He looked confident and commanding. I think he's going to be a solid player.
I agree, but i dont think you will find anyone who has him as a top 5 dynasty QB right now though.
 
I think Ryan certainly looks the part. Flacco looks solid as well this season. I've got both in a start-2 QB league and I am not getting rid of either. Their upside is tremendous and you have to remember that this is a rookie coaching staff, with young wideouts and RBs. This team would seem to be primed for a nice little run in the next 2-3 years. But you have to be wary of him sliding backwards next season and sophomores are so apt to do. Same with Flacco obviously.

 
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Burning Sensation said:
Top 5? No way. Maybe next year, but he hasn't earned that yet.

He's an ideal QB2 in dynasty leagues. You don't want to put yourself in a position to rely on him, but he's already a capable FF backup and he has the upside to develop into a frontline QB1. I would put him slightly behind guys like Rodgers and Edwards.

I'm impressed by his poise and I think he's probably going to be a solid NFL starter for a long time. The question now is how good will he be? Campbell? Hasselbeck? Manning? Hard to say until we see more.
Campbell :confused: Ryan has done more in 7 games than Cambell has done in his career. Again, i know its early, but Hasselbeck seems to be his floor.
I don't like Campbell either. Never have.All I'm really saying is that a top 5 ranking for Ryan presupposes a lot of improvement on his part.

He might improve (most young QBs do), but he might not. Right now he's just a promising QB with a chance to become a star. Until he actually takes the next step as an FF QB, he shouldn't be ranked ahead of guys who are already there.

I like him though. I saw some of the game today and was pretty impressed. Lots of young QBs look lost and scared. Not Ryan. He looked confident and commanding. I think he's going to be a solid player.
Forget where he ranks THIS year. If you owned him, what kind of price would you demand for him? If you were buying him (need a future QB), what kind of price would you pay?THAT is his dynasty ranking. Virtually every word you've written SOUNDS like a redraft ranking...where he is currently a solid QB2. Or do you not seperate your dynasty from redraft rankings? I'm not trying to come off like an asssss....but there are certain players who's value really does vary wildly depending on how strongly you emphasize future expected production from current production. Michael Turner last year would be a good example....you couldn't buy him for RB3 money last year, but that's what he generally produced.

Production 2008 = QB2

Expected production 2009 = marginal QB1

Expected production 2010 forward = solid QB1 (based on current progress, this is conservative)

dynasty value/ranking based on age, current production, expected future production...top ten (barely). Too expensive if you're pushing for a title this year, but just right if you're rebuilding for next year and beyond.

 
Raider Nation said:
Were you guys watching football in '83?
Just for the heck of it, I did a comparison. You'd be surprised, I was. First 8 games per nfl.com. As a side note, I didn't realize Marino didn't start the season and actually missed 5 games.
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Comp	  Att	  Pct	  Yds	  Avg	  TD	  Int	  Rate	W/LMarino124	220	457.8	1558	57.2	15	5	91.8	4-4Ryan133	227	490.9	1661	65.6	9	5	85.43	5-3
Actually has him beat in yards and completion rate to this point. Marino has a clear lead in TDs and a slightly better rating. Am I calling Ryan as good as Marino? NO. He has a LONG way to go before we can judge that. But as rookie seasons go, you could make the case that Ryan's is better.
 
I'd have a hard time selling him right now. Guy is a low end #1 in his rookie season. Bring in another WR to take pressure off White and the ATL offense could be one of the leagues best in a year or two.

 
For Ryan dynasty owners, which QB's would you trade him for straight up?

For me, the obvious guys are Brees, Peyton, Cutler, Romo, and Brady...

After that, you have guys like Rivers, Rodgers, Big Ben, Eli, McNabb, Favre, Warner... I'd probably trade him for Rivers, maybe Rodgers, and maybe Warner if he was the missing piece from a potential championship team. But I really couldn't see trading him for any other QB. So for me, that puts him in the 6 to 9 range. Am I missing anyone?

ETA: I guess depending on what the real deal is with Carson's elbow, he might belong in the discussion. But the uncertainty surrounding the severity of his injury and it's repercussions on his future along with the disarray of the Cincy franchise make me pretty wary. Not to mention I already own him on the team that I have Ryan on, so it's not a trade I would ever have to consider.

 
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I was hurting at QB (Campbell/Croyle/Grossman), and traded an 09 1st, and a 08 2nd, to move up to 4th overall to grab Ryan last year, in a start 2QB league. No regrets. I love his potential, and he has been startable, and hopefully contributes in the playoffs for me. Tied for the top record this year (also did acquire Portis/Walter/Ward... draft Slaton and Keller... pick up Woodley... and watch Boldin tear it up).

 
Well, I'm a Brees owner & have been thinking about offering him up for Ryan & R. Wayne. I moved Romo for Brees earlier in the year.

So that may give you an idea of his value from non-Ryan owners that own elite QBs

 
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