Maurice Jones-Drew. Recovery and Current Value. (1 Viewer)

[koreansteve]

I apologize if I missed a thread discussing MJD recently (couldn't find one).

He seems to have moved up into the 2nd round (non-ppr) around the likes of Chris Johnson, Gore, and Ridley. If fully healthy, I'd assume he gets 270+ carries on a below average Jaguars offense. I thought he looked pretty decent on his only series in the Jags last game although it was limited to a couple of runs and a reception.

Is he fully recovered? To what degree will it hamper him in 2013?

I'd love to hear Jene Bramel's opinion. Jene wrote this in June..."His progress between mid-July and mid-August should give us enough objective information to plot a more specific timetable." I haven't heard much about his recovery.

Where do you feel comfortable taking him right now and how many carries are you projecting for him?

 

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I personally think he presents solid value coming into this year... could POTENTIALLY crack the top 10 in PPR.

Jaguars | Maurice Jones-Drew makes preseason debut Sat Aug 17, 09:22 PM

Jacksonville Jaguars RB Maurice Jones-Drew (foot) made his preseason debut Saturday, Aug. 17, against the New York Jets, carrying three times for nine yards, and adding one reception for 20 yards.

Footballguys view: Jones-Drew will be the Jags feature back again this year, and it looks like his foot is back to pre-injury form. He's worth an RB2 pick in the mid-late second, but he might still be there for you in the third round. It's easy to forget that Jones-Drew was elite with Blaine Gabbert as his quarterback in 2011.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Fully recovered -- no pain, no setbacks and he looked lively on his lone catch last week.

He's 28 so may not get all the way back, but his last full season he led the NFL in rushing and with an improved o-line, an improved QB (improved from horrific to bad) and dramatically better WRs there should be more scoring opportunities. Think he's great value at his current ADP -- would much rather have him than SJax, CJ3, Ridley and Murray.

 

[KCitons]

I think I would rather have CJ3 or SJax. Not so much Ridley or Murray. I have concerns about MJD as the season progresses. While he may be feeling good now, the fact is it's not just the foot (lisfranc) it's also the knee (was bone on bone for a couple of years.

I would rather let another owner take the risk.

 

[JaxBill]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=683969&page=2

 

[koreansteve]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=683969&page=2

I saw that thread. But it hasn't been active in a month...basically since all the camp info and preseason games started.

 

[ebsteelers]

that jaguars team is soooo bad though.. I mean he might able to get a lot of junk receptions in a ppr league but coming off the injury the qb situation stinks. I guess if he was there in the 3rd when I am picking then I might bite but a lot like mcfadden, murray etc.. buyer beware

 

[meyerj31]

I'm not a fan of MJD but I'm buying all day if he falls to the late 3rd or 4th. Too much upside to let him slide further than that. There just aren't many feature backs in the NFL. In several mock drafts I've had success going RB/WR/RB/WR/RB.... something like Spiller/Dez/MJD/VJax/Lacy is looking pretty solid at the moment.

 

[ldizzle]

I think we should know a lot more after the 3rd preseason game. As long as there isnt soreness and he is practicing he should be g2g. If u have a draft earlier and cant wait id say its still risky.

 

[mphtrilogy]

could win you a league at the right price....

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Worth remembering he finished 2011 as the RB6 (19.1ppg), and was RB5 (17.1ppg) through four weeks last year.

 

[pantherclub]

could win you a league at the right price....

what's the right price?

 

[JaxBill]

I think we should know a lot more after the 3rd preseason game. As long as there isnt soreness and he is practicing he should be g2g. If u have a draft earlier and cant wait id say its still risky.

FWIW, once he was cleared to practice in late July, I have not heard of any setbacks.

 

[GroveDiesel]

that jaguars team is soooo bad though.. I mean he might able to get a lot of junk receptions in a ppr league but coming off the injury the qb situation stinks. I guess if he was there in the 3rd when I am picking then I might bite but a lot like mcfadden, murray etc.. buyer beware

Are they soooo bad though? The offensive line seems much improved and Gabbert has looked great all summer. Advanced metrics showed that Gabbert was a pretty good QB last year when he was given time to throw. He just wasn't given time very often. If the O-line is improved, I don't see why a fairly significant offensive uptick is out of the question.

Heck, MJD was great 2 years ago, good outside of his injury last year and the Jags have Shorts and Blackmon (after 4 games) now. Seems like there are more offensive weapons in Jax than there have been in quite some time.

 

[KCitons]

Even with the improvements in the Jags offense. I don't expect MJD to play all 16 games in 2013. This is the reason why I would take SJax or CJ?K over him.

 

[humpback]

that jaguars team is soooo bad though.. I mean he might able to get a lot of junk receptions in a ppr league but coming off the injury the qb situation stinks. I guess if he was there in the 3rd when I am picking then I might bite but a lot like mcfadden, murray etc.. buyer beware

Are they soooo bad though? The offensive line seems much improved and Gabbert has looked great all summer. Advanced metrics showed that Gabbert was a pretty good QB last year when he was given time to throw. He just wasn't given time very often. If the O-line is improved, I don't see why a fairly significant offensive uptick is out of the question.

Heck, MJD was great 2 years ago, good outside of his injury last year and the Jags have Shorts and Blackmon (after 4 games) now. Seems like there are more offensive weapons in Jax than there have been in quite some time.

Agreed. The team (and offense in particular) stunk in 2011, and MJD was a stud. It's nearly impossible for them to be worse this year, and most likely they'll be somewhat improved.

 

[Leonidas]

I'm am cautiously optimistic, to the point that I'd rather I find out first hand by having him on my roster vs an opponent's. I would still take CJ?K over him. Probably Steven Jackson as well. But otherwise among 'Round 2' RB's...I want MJD.

Personally I was staring down the barrel at MJD with 2.11 in my main league, but I flinched and went with Demaryius Thomas instead (Julio and above WR's were all gone). Buuuut he was still there at 3.02 so I bit.

 

[BlackMamba24]

what can we expect his value to be? in terms of draft picks, will he be worth a 2014 1st?

 

[iamkoza]

that jaguars team is soooo bad though.. I mean he might able to get a lot of junk receptions in a ppr league but coming off the injury the qb situation stinks. I guess if he was there in the 3rd when I am picking then I might bite but a lot like mcfadden, murray etc.. buyer beware

they were abysmal in 2011 when MJD was a top 5 back

 

[ebsteelers]

that jaguars team is soooo bad though.. I mean he might able to get a lot of junk receptions in a ppr league but coming off the injury the qb situation stinks. I guess if he was there in the 3rd when I am picking then I might bite but a lot like mcfadden, murray etc.. buyer beware

Are they soooo bad though? The offensive line seems much improved and Gabbert has looked great all summer. Advanced metrics showed that Gabbert was a pretty good QB last year when he was given time to throw. He just wasn't given time very often. If the O-line is improved, I don't see why a fairly significant offensive uptick is out of the question.

Heck, MJD was great 2 years ago, good outside of his injury last year and the Jags have Shorts and Blackmon (after 4 games) now. Seems like there are more offensive weapons in Jax than there have been in quite some time.

They do have some decent weapons but until Blaine does it in the regular season. I guess I'll believe it when I see it with him. It would seem like they will be down in games a lot though, so while his rushing might be down, he could catch lot of passes out of the backfield still.

I guess If i can get Jones-Drew (3rd), Blackmon, and Shorts at the right price I'll bite.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

that jaguars team is soooo bad though.. I mean he might able to get a lot of junk receptions in a ppr league but coming off the injury the qb situation stinks. I guess if he was there in the 3rd when I am picking then I might bite but a lot like mcfadden, murray etc.. buyer beware

Are they soooo bad though? The offensive line seems much improved and Gabbert has looked great all summer. Advanced metrics showed that Gabbert was a pretty good QB last year when he was given time to throw. He just wasn't given time very often. If the O-line is improved, I don't see why a fairly significant offensive uptick is out of the question.

Heck, MJD was great 2 years ago, good outside of his injury last year and the Jags have Shorts and Blackmon (after 4 games) now. Seems like there are more offensive weapons in Jax than there have been in quite some time.

They do have some decent weapons but until Blaine does it in the regular season. I guess I'll believe it when I see it with him. It would seem like they will be down in games a lot though, so while his rushing might be down, he could catch lot of passes out of the backfield still.

I guess If i can get Jones-Drew (3rd), Blackmon, and Shorts at the right price I'll bite.

You think Gabbert is going to be worse than he was in 2011 (when MJD led the NFL in rushing)?

 

[ebsteelers]

that jaguars team is soooo bad though.. I mean he might able to get a lot of junk receptions in a ppr league but coming off the injury the qb situation stinks. I guess if he was there in the 3rd when I am picking then I might bite but a lot like mcfadden, murray etc.. buyer beware

Are they soooo bad though? The offensive line seems much improved and Gabbert has looked great all summer. Advanced metrics showed that Gabbert was a pretty good QB last year when he was given time to throw. He just wasn't given time very often. If the O-line is improved, I don't see why a fairly significant offensive uptick is out of the question.

Heck, MJD was great 2 years ago, good outside of his injury last year and the Jags have Shorts and Blackmon (after 4 games) now. Seems like there are more offensive weapons in Jax than there have been in quite some time.

They do have some decent weapons but until Blaine does it in the regular season. I guess I'll believe it when I see it with him. It would seem like they will be down in games a lot though, so while his rushing might be down, he could catch lot of passes out of the backfield still.

I guess If i can get Jones-Drew (3rd), Blackmon, and Shorts at the right price I'll bite.

You think Gabbert is going to be worse than he was in 2011 (when MJD led the NFL in rushing)?

your not getting the 2011 MJD though,

I dont think Gabbert is off all sudden become a top notch qb either though.

Like i said if MJD is there in the 3rd I'll bite but I wont be expecting him to lead the NFL in rushing either

 

[KCitons]

what can we expect his value to be? in terms of draft picks, will he be worth a 2014 1st?

Based on responses here. There are enough people that are high on MJD. So, I would guess you could get a mid to late 1st.

I'm not doubting MJD's ability. But for everyone that is pointing out his 2011 season, you need to offset that with last year. It only matters if he plays all 16 games.

 

[Leonidas]

what can we expect his value to be? in terms of draft picks, will he be worth a 2014 1st?

Based on responses here. There are enough people that are high on MJD. So, I would guess you could get a mid to late 1st.

I'm not doubting MJD's ability. But for everyone that is pointing out his 2011 season, you need to offset that with last year. It only matters if he plays all 16 games.

I disagree.

 

[KCitons]

what can we expect his value to be? in terms of draft picks, will he be worth a 2014 1st?

Based on responses here. There are enough people that are high on MJD. So, I would guess you could get a mid to late 1st.

I'm not doubting MJD's ability. But for everyone that is pointing out his 2011 season, you need to offset that with last year. It only matters if he plays all 16 games.

I disagree.

How does in not matter? If he plays eight games it will effect his fantasy relevance

 

[Adam Harstad]

what can we expect his value to be? in terms of draft picks, will he be worth a 2014 1st?

Based on responses here. There are enough people that are high on MJD. So, I would guess you could get a mid to late 1st.

I'm not doubting MJD's ability. But for everyone that is pointing out his 2011 season, you need to offset that with last year. It only matters if he plays all 16 games.

I disagree.

How does in not matter? If he plays eight games it will effect his fantasy relevance

True, 16 games of Jones-Drew is better than 8 games of Jones-Drew, but 8 games of Jones-Drew is better than nothing. If Maurice Jones-Drew gives me 10 games of top-10 production and 6 games where he's injured and out of my lineup, that's still very valuable- probably valuable enough to be worth a 3rd round pick.

 

[KCitons]

what can we expect his value to be? in terms of draft picks, will he be worth a 2014 1st?

Based on responses here. There are enough people that are high on MJD. So, I would guess you could get a mid to late 1st.

I'm not doubting MJD's ability. But for everyone that is pointing out his 2011 season, you need to offset that with last year. It only matters if he plays all 16 games.

I disagree.

How does in not matter? If he plays eight games it will effect his fantasy relevance

True, 16 games of Jones-Drew is better than 8 games of Jones-Drew, but 8 games of Jones-Drew is better than nothing. If Maurice Jones-Drew gives me 10 games of top-10 production and 6 games where he's injured and out of my lineup, that's still very valuable- probably valuable enough to be worth a 3rd round pick.

Which is why we need to refer to the OP. Which 2nd round back is most likely to give you the most production? MJD, CJ?K, or SJax. I don't want my RB1 sitting on the bench going into fantasy playoffs.

MJD may very well outproduce both those other backs by 15% each week, but I believe he will drop to zero at some point during the season.

 

[xenon]

I'm not a fan of MJD but I'm buying all day if he falls to the late 3rd or 4th. Too much upside to let him slide further than that. There just aren't many feature backs in the NFL. In several mock drafts I've had success going RB/WR/RB/WR/RB.... something like Spiller/Dez/MJD/VJax/Lacy is looking pretty solid at the moment.

There is no way he is falling to the 4th round. 3rd might even be a stretch...and it would be early third at that based on what I've seen in mocks.

 

[humpback]

that jaguars team is soooo bad though.. I mean he might able to get a lot of junk receptions in a ppr league but coming off the injury the qb situation stinks. I guess if he was there in the 3rd when I am picking then I might bite but a lot like mcfadden, murray etc.. buyer beware

Are they soooo bad though? The offensive line seems much improved and Gabbert has looked great all summer. Advanced metrics showed that Gabbert was a pretty good QB last year when he was given time to throw. He just wasn't given time very often. If the O-line is improved, I don't see why a fairly significant offensive uptick is out of the question.

Heck, MJD was great 2 years ago, good outside of his injury last year and the Jags have Shorts and Blackmon (after 4 games) now. Seems like there are more offensive weapons in Jax than there have been in quite some time.

They do have some decent weapons but until Blaine does it in the regular season. I guess I'll believe it when I see it with him. It would seem like they will be down in games a lot though, so while his rushing might be down, he could catch lot of passes out of the backfield still.

I guess If i can get Jones-Drew (3rd), Blackmon, and Shorts at the right price I'll bite.

You think Gabbert is going to be worse than he was in 2011 (when MJD led the NFL in rushing)?

your not getting the 2011 MJD though,

I dont think Gabbert is off all sudden become a top notch qb either though.

Like i said if MJD is there in the 3rd I'll bite but I wont be expecting him to lead the NFL in rushing either

There are reasons to be pessimistic about MJD, but "Jax/Gabbert is terrible" really isn't a good one. That hasn't stopped him from being a stud in the past.

 

[TheCommish]

At this point, I would prefer to draft Chris Johnson in the 2nd (I have pick 2.09 in a 12-team PPR league, and expect him to be there or taken right before me). I don't expect Steven Jackson to be there, mainly because his situation is so intriguing. I also expect MJD to be there, and am leaning toward snapping him up if the first two guys are gone, as I expect they will be.

He may not be a good fantasy show host, but he can sure carry the rock.

 

[Leonidas]

what can we expect his value to be? in terms of draft picks, will he be worth a 2014 1st?

Based on responses here. There are enough people that are high on MJD. So, I would guess you could get a mid to late 1st.

I'm not doubting MJD's ability. But for everyone that is pointing out his 2011 season, you need to offset that with last year. It only matters if he plays all 16 games.

I disagree.

How does in not matter? If he plays eight games it will effect his fantasy relevance

I didn't realize that the only two options were "all 16 games" and "eight games".

 

[Leonidas]

what can we expect his value to be? in terms of draft picks, will he be worth a 2014 1st?

Based on responses here. There are enough people that are high on MJD. So, I would guess you could get a mid to late 1st.

I'm not doubting MJD's ability. But for everyone that is pointing out his 2011 season, you need to offset that with last year. It only matters if he plays all 16 games.

I disagree.

How does in not matter? If he plays eight games it will effect his fantasy relevance

True, 16 games of Jones-Drew is better than 8 games of Jones-Drew, but 8 games of Jones-Drew is better than nothing. If Maurice Jones-Drew gives me 10 games of top-10 production and 6 games where he's injured and out of my lineup, that's still very valuable- probably valuable enough to be worth a 3rd round pick.

Which is why we need to refer to the OP. Which 2nd round back is most likely to give you the most production? MJD, CJ?K, or SJax. I don't want my RB1 sitting on the bench going into fantasy playoffs.

MJD may very well outproduce both those other backs by 15% each week, but I believe he will drop to zero at some point during the season.

I don't think very many people are talking about taking MJD as their RB1.

 

[KCitons]

what can we expect his value to be? in terms of draft picks, will he be worth a 2014 1st?

Based on responses here. There are enough people that are high on MJD. So, I would guess you could get a mid to late 1st.

I'm not doubting MJD's ability. But for everyone that is pointing out his 2011 season, you need to offset that with last year. It only matters if he plays all 16 games.

I disagree.

How does in not matter? If he plays eight games it will effect his fantasy relevance

I didn't realize that the only two options were "all 16 games" and "eight games".

There aren't but if you choose to ignore the possibility of anything less than 16, then good luck.

 

[KCitons]

what can we expect his value to be? in terms of draft picks, will he be worth a 2014 1st?

Based on responses here. There are enough people that are high on MJD. So, I would guess you could get a mid to late 1st.

I'm not doubting MJD's ability. But for everyone that is pointing out his 2011 season, you need to offset that with last year. It only matters if he plays all 16 games.

I disagree.

How does in not matter? If he plays eight games it will effect his fantasy relevance

True, 16 games of Jones-Drew is better than 8 games of Jones-Drew, but 8 games of Jones-Drew is better than nothing. If Maurice Jones-Drew gives me 10 games of top-10 production and 6 games where he's injured and out of my lineup, that's still very valuable- probably valuable enough to be worth a 3rd round pick.

Which is why we need to refer to the OP. Which 2nd round back is most likely to give you the most production? MJD, CJ?K, or SJax. I don't want my RB1 sitting on the bench going into fantasy playoffs.

MJD may very well outproduce both those other backs by 15% each week, but I believe he will drop to zero at some point during the season.

I don't think very many people are talking about taking MJD as their RB1.

The OP is talking about him being available in the 2nd round. Depending on who you take in the first, he could very well be your RB1? Say you take a WR or QB, what does that make MJD at pick 2.6?

 

[ebsteelers]

that jaguars team is soooo bad though.. I mean he might able to get a lot of junk receptions in a ppr league but coming off the injury the qb situation stinks. I guess if he was there in the 3rd when I am picking then I might bite but a lot like mcfadden, murray etc.. buyer beware

Are they soooo bad though? The offensive line seems much improved and Gabbert has looked great all summer. Advanced metrics showed that Gabbert was a pretty good QB last year when he was given time to throw. He just wasn't given time very often. If the O-line is improved, I don't see why a fairly significant offensive uptick is out of the question.

Heck, MJD was great 2 years ago, good outside of his injury last year and the Jags have Shorts and Blackmon (after 4 games) now. Seems like there are more offensive weapons in Jax than there have been in quite some time.

They do have some decent weapons but until Blaine does it in the regular season. I guess I'll believe it when I see it with him. It would seem like they will be down in games a lot though, so while his rushing might be down, he could catch lot of passes out of the backfield still.

I guess If i can get Jones-Drew (3rd), Blackmon, and Shorts at the right price I'll bite.

You think Gabbert is going to be worse than he was in 2011 (when MJD led the NFL in rushing)?

your not getting the 2011 MJD though,

I dont think Gabbert is off all sudden become a top notch qb either though.

Like i said if MJD is there in the 3rd I'll bite but I wont be expecting him to lead the NFL in rushing either

There are reasons to be pessimistic about MJD, but "Jax/Gabbert is terrible" really isn't a good one. That hasn't stopped him from being a stud in the past.

I am not saying its only reason to not take MJD..or like him if the pick calls for it.( he very well might end up on my team)

and your right it hasnt stopped him in the past (when he was younger and had more gas in the tank) but its 2013 now, so to be expecting top 5 production would be tough.. not saying he cant give it, but dont expect it.

 

[Leonidas]

There aren't but if you choose to ignore the possibility of anything less than 16, then good luck.

I'm not sure if I should call this a straw man or type out a long detailed response explaining how my point sailed over your head.

 

[Leonidas]

The OP is talking about him being available in the 2nd round. Depending on who you take in the first, he could very well be your RB1? Say you take a WR or QB, what does that make MJD at pick 2.6?

Not very many people are talking about taking MJD as their RB1.

 

[ebsteelers]

what can we expect his value to be? in terms of draft picks, will he be worth a 2014 1st?

Based on responses here. There are enough people that are high on MJD. So, I would guess you could get a mid to late 1st.

I'm not doubting MJD's ability. But for everyone that is pointing out his 2011 season, you need to offset that with last year. It only matters if he plays all 16 games.

I disagree.

How does in not matter? If he plays eight games it will effect his fantasy relevance

True, 16 games of Jones-Drew is better than 8 games of Jones-Drew, but 8 games of Jones-Drew is better than nothing. If Maurice Jones-Drew gives me 10 games of top-10 production and 6 games where he's injured and out of my lineup, that's still very valuable- probably valuable enough to be worth a 3rd round pick.

8 games is better than nothing? but thats only the case if you draft someone who contributes 0 to your fantasy team.

if jd only plays in 8 games but johnson or ridley play in a 16. is mjd 8 games better than their 16, I would highly doubt it

 

[Leonidas]

8 games is better than nothing? but thats only the case if you draft someone who contributes 0 to your fantasy team.

if jd only plays in 8 games but johnson or ridley play in a 16. is mjd 8 games better than their 16, I would highly doubt it

Well, if Chris Johnson continues on his old trends, he might only give you 10 games of good production, and 5 games of 3.5 or fewer points (standard scoring). Personally I'm usually a bit disappointed when a round two pick scores <4 points several times a season.

If you really want to take this hypothetical seriously...I'd take MJD with 10 games of very good production and the rest OUT vs Chris Johnson giving 10 games of very good production and thee rest in and healthy for 3.4 points per game.

Just sayin'

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

MJD has a pretty limited injury history for a back with that workload. Before last year he had missed 3 games. The one injury he had last year caused him to miss a lot of games, but I have trouble seeing him as more likely to get a serious injury than a 30 year-old Stephen Jackson.

 

[Leonidas]

Perceived injury risk: This is why CJ?K is my top round 2 RB target. He's an ironman.

 

[KCitons]

The OP is talking about him being available in the 2nd round. Depending on who you take in the first, he could very well be your RB1? Say you take a WR or QB, what does that make MJD at pick 2.6?

Not very many people are talking about taking MJD as their RB1.

What do you call the RB you take in the second round when you've taken a WR or QB in the 1st round? Are you going to get an RB1 in the 3rd or 4th round. You're missing the point. MJD is the owners RB1 by default.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

BTW, no MJD thread should lack the phrase "contract year"

 

[KCitons]

Isn't Michael Turner in a contract year also? just kidding.

 

[humpback]

that jaguars team is soooo bad though.. I mean he might able to get a lot of junk receptions in a ppr league but coming off the injury the qb situation stinks. I guess if he was there in the 3rd when I am picking then I might bite but a lot like mcfadden, murray etc.. buyer beware

Are they soooo bad though? The offensive line seems much improved and Gabbert has looked great all summer. Advanced metrics showed that Gabbert was a pretty good QB last year when he was given time to throw. He just wasn't given time very often. If the O-line is improved, I don't see why a fairly significant offensive uptick is out of the question.

Heck, MJD was great 2 years ago, good outside of his injury last year and the Jags have Shorts and Blackmon (after 4 games) now. Seems like there are more offensive weapons in Jax than there have been in quite some time.

They do have some decent weapons but until Blaine does it in the regular season. I guess I'll believe it when I see it with him. It would seem like they will be down in games a lot though, so while his rushing might be down, he could catch lot of passes out of the backfield still.

I guess If i can get Jones-Drew (3rd), Blackmon, and Shorts at the right price I'll bite.

You think Gabbert is going to be worse than he was in 2011 (when MJD led the NFL in rushing)?

your not getting the 2011 MJD though,

I dont think Gabbert is off all sudden become a top notch qb either though.

Like i said if MJD is there in the 3rd I'll bite but I wont be expecting him to lead the NFL in rushing either

There are reasons to be pessimistic about MJD, but "Jax/Gabbert is terrible" really isn't a good one. That hasn't stopped him from being a stud in the past.

I am not saying its only reason to not take MJD..or like him if the pick calls for it.( he very well might end up on my team)

and your right it hasnt stopped him in the past (when he was younger and had more gas in the tank) but its 2013 now, so to be expecting top 5 production would be tough.. not saying he cant give it, but dont expect it.

It isn't a reason at all, that's the point. Your last sentence makes sense, but still has nothing to do with Gabbert or the team stinking. If MJD doesn't do well, it won't be because of that.

 

[SameSongNDance]

I'm reserving judgement until I see him run again. Unless my eyes deceived me, he looked out of shape.

 

[nirad3]

The OP is talking about him being available in the 2nd round. Depending on who you take in the first, he could very well be your RB1? Say you take a WR or QB, what does that make MJD at pick 2.6?

Not very many people are talking about taking MJD as their RB1.

In a 16-team IDP league with 1ppr for TEs and 0.5ppr for everyone else, I took Graham at 10 and Marshall with my 2nd rounder... MJD fell to me in the 3rd, actually, and I was pretty happy to find him there and have him as my RB1 given the circumstances.

And no, this isn't a league full of monkeys and kindergarteners.

 

[ebsteelers]

that jaguars team is soooo bad though.. I mean he might able to get a lot of junk receptions in a ppr league but coming off the injury the qb situation stinks. I guess if he was there in the 3rd when I am picking then I might bite but a lot like mcfadden, murray etc.. buyer beware

Are they soooo bad though? The offensive line seems much improved and Gabbert has looked great all summer. Advanced metrics showed that Gabbert was a pretty good QB last year when he was given time to throw. He just wasn't given time very often. If the O-line is improved, I don't see why a fairly significant offensive uptick is out of the question.

Heck, MJD was great 2 years ago, good outside of his injury last year and the Jags have Shorts and Blackmon (after 4 games) now. Seems like there are more offensive weapons in Jax than there have been in quite some time.

They do have some decent weapons but until Blaine does it in the regular season. I guess I'll believe it when I see it with him. It would seem like they will be down in games a lot though, so while his rushing might be down, he could catch lot of passes out of the backfield still.

I guess If i can get Jones-Drew (3rd), Blackmon, and Shorts at the right price I'll bite.

You think Gabbert is going to be worse than he was in 2011 (when MJD led the NFL in rushing)?

your not getting the 2011 MJD though,

I dont think Gabbert is off all sudden become a top notch qb either though.

Like i said if MJD is there in the 3rd I'll bite but I wont be expecting him to lead the NFL in rushing either

There are reasons to be pessimistic about MJD, but "Jax/Gabbert is terrible" really isn't a good one. That hasn't stopped him from being a stud in the past.

I am not saying its only reason to not take MJD..or like him if the pick calls for it.( he very well might end up on my team)

and your right it hasnt stopped him in the past (when he was younger and had more gas in the tank) but its 2013 now, so to be expecting top 5 production would be tough.. not saying he cant give it, but dont expect it.

It isn't a reason at all, that's the point. Your last sentence makes sense, but still has nothing to do with Gabbert or the team stinking. If MJD doesn't do well, it won't be because of that.

His QB being terrible wont do him any favors is what im saying, (could be the worst qb in football along with mr butt fumble) along with the fact he is getting up there in age, because the things he did 2 or 3 years ago with a bad qb he might not be able to do anymore. which is yet to be determined.

Then again maybe with the bad qb play he will get some garbage time receptions and touchdowns that way.. Guess will have to wait and see.

I've said iif he is there in the 3rd and I dont like the other options I'll give it a go with him and hope he can stay healthy but I wont expect 2011 stuff

 

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Even with the improvements in the Jags offense. I don't expect MJD to play all 16 games in 2013. This is the reason why I would take SJax or CJ?K over him.

Because Jackson always plays 16 games.

 

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what can we expect his value to be? in terms of draft picks, will he be worth a 2014 1st?

Based on responses here. There are enough people that are high on MJD. So, I would guess you could get a mid to late 1st.

I'm not doubting MJD's ability. But for everyone that is pointing out his 2011 season, you need to offset that with last year. It only matters if he plays all 16 games.

I disagree.

How does in not matter? If he plays eight games it will effect his fantasy relevance

True, 16 games of Jones-Drew is better than 8 games of Jones-Drew, but 8 games of Jones-Drew is better than nothing. If Maurice Jones-Drew gives me 10 games of top-10 production and 6 games where he's injured and out of my lineup, that's still very valuable- probably valuable enough to be worth a 3rd round pick.

8 games is better than nothing? but thats only the case if you draft someone who contributes 0 to your fantasy team.

if jd only plays in 8 games but johnson or ridley play in a 16. is mjd 8 games better than their 16, I would highly doubt it

If I knew for sure that MJD would play 8 and Johnson would play 16, I would take Johnson. I do not know that for certain, though- for all I know, Jones-Drew might play 16 while Johnson plays 8.

I expect Jones-Drew to contribute more per game played than Johnson, and I have no compelling reason to believe that Jones-Drew will play fewer games than Johnson.