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Maurice Jones-Drew. Recovery and Current Value. (1 Viewer)

FWIW, Dr. Bramel re: 'bone on bone' ...

I think it's something that will always be in the background -- as it will with Marques Colston and Ben Roethlisberger and Trent Richardson -- in players who have had multiple meniscus surgeries and/or microfracture. But not every player goes the way of Steve Smith or Kellen Winslow or, possibly, Mark Ingram.Until we see evidence that MJD is limited on the field or needs extra maintenance during the week and progressively worse practice participation, I wouldn't worry much about the bone-on-bone history.
 
I'm not a fan of MJD but I'm buying all day if he falls to the late 3rd or 4th. Too much upside to let him slide further than that. There just aren't many feature backs in the NFL. In several mock drafts I've had success going RB/WR/RB/WR/RB.... something like Spiller/Dez/MJD/VJax/Lacy is looking pretty solid at the moment.
There is no way he is falling to the 4th round. 3rd might even be a stretch...and it would be early third at that based on what I've seen in mocks.
snagged him at 3.7 in a ffpc draft last night. def not a fan of his prospects this year but i couldnt pass him there.

 
This is the week.

If MJD cannot produce against the brutal run D of the Rams

He will be untradable all year

Maybe with a solid effort we can trade him for a pittance

 
This is the week.

If MJD cannot produce against the brutal run D of the Rams

He will be untradable all year

Maybe with a solid effort we can trade him for a pittance
He's pretty much there for me. I tried trading him for Andre Ellington in a deep keeper. The keeper cost difference was obviously a big factor ($41 vs. $7), but it was rejected quickly by a contender that's thin at RB.

 
I was going to drop him this week but decided to shop him and Ridley around to see if I could squeeze any name value out of him.

As a spiller owner I was able to finagle a trade for Fred Jackson and amendola with me giving MJD, Ridley and gronk. My other TE is gates who is looking like vintage gates right now, so wasn't too worried about offloading gronk.

Either way, MJD and the jags look horrific, I would cut loose now if you can still get any value. The worst part is that the jags don't even use him as there 3rd down passing back anymore.

 
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This is the week.

If MJD cannot produce against the brutal run D of the Rams

He will be untradable all year

Maybe with a solid effort we can trade him for a pittance
The Rams really aren't that brutal, and the Jags are so much worse than I thought they'd be. I wouldn't be surprised if MJD doesn't have a single 100 yd. game this year.

 
This is the week.

If MJD cannot produce against the brutal run D of the Rams

He will be untradable all year

Maybe with a solid effort we can trade him for a pittance
The Rams really aren't that brutal, and the Jags are so much worse than I thought they'd be. I wouldn't be surprised if MJD doesn't have a single 100 yd. game this year.
In consecutive weeks they have allow 193 and 219 yds rushing and rank either 30 or 32 against the runI call that brutal

 
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Bad Mojo said:
humpback said:
Bad Mojo said:
This is the week.

If MJD cannot produce against the brutal run D of the Rams

He will be untradable all year

Maybe with a solid effort we can trade him for a pittance
The Rams really aren't that brutal, and the Jags are so much worse than I thought they'd be. I wouldn't be surprised if MJD doesn't have a single 100 yd. game this year.
In consecutive weeks they have allow 193 and 219 yds rushing and rank either 30 or 32 against the runI call that brutal
4 games doesn't make a season- the Rams have had 2 very good games and 2 awful games vs. the run, I wouldn't call them brutal just yet.

 
Bad Mojo said:
humpback said:
Bad Mojo said:
This is the week.

If MJD cannot produce against the brutal run D of the Rams

He will be untradable all year

Maybe with a solid effort we can trade him for a pittance
The Rams really aren't that brutal, and the Jags are so much worse than I thought they'd be. I wouldn't be surprised if MJD doesn't have a single 100 yd. game this year.
In consecutive weeks they have allow 193 and 219 yds rushing and rank either 30 or 32 against the runI call that brutal
It appears that what we have here is the movable object meeting the stoppable force.

 
It will be interesting to see how this plays out now that the jags have shorts Blackmon and mar cedes Lewis all on the field together for the 1st time this wknd

 
Just when you thought things couldn't get worse, they trade away their starting LT.

ETA- I wouldn't be shocked to see some fireworks here, I can't imagine he keeps his mouth shut much longer. Normally not a fan of holdouts/demands, but I think I'd have to give a pass in this case.

 
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He's appears done to me.
Honestly, I don't understand comments like this. He's on one of the worst offenses in the modern football era.....no other talent around him the first 4 weeks.....he doesn't look "done" at all. If Steven Jackson was able to land, at his age, with a competitive team that gave him the chance to start, I don't see why MJD won't be in the same boat next year.

 
He's appears done to me.
Honestly, I don't understand comments like this. He's on one of the worst offenses in the modern football era.....no other talent around him the first 4 weeks.....he doesn't look "done" at all. If Steven Jackson was able to land, at his age, with a competitive team that gave him the chance to start, I don't see why MJD won't be in the same boat next year.
It's not just the OL. I watched all of his plays on Game Rewind and he doesn't look he has the same burst he used to have. 'Done' may be too far but I don't see him being a RB1 again unless he goes to an ideal situation.

 
This is the week. This is when you start him, to try and squeeze a bit of value out of that late second/early third round pick you probably spent on him. The Rams D is looking awful against the run. Blackmon is back. The "home field advantage" of the EJD is a joke. In fact, I would go so far as to say this is a game that the Jags could potentially keep close, if not win.

 
Ryan Swope said:
This is the week. This is when you start him, to try and squeeze a bit of value out of that late second/early third round pick you probably spent on him. The Rams D is looking awful against the run. Blackmon is back. The "home field advantage" of the EJD is a joke. In fact, I would go so far as to say this is a game that the Jags could potentially keep close, if not win.
Too many hits to the head, Ryan.

 
cstu said:
Alex P Keaton said:
He's appears done to me.
Honestly, I don't understand comments like this. He's on one of the worst offenses in the modern football era.....no other talent around him the first 4 weeks.....he doesn't look "done" at all. If Steven Jackson was able to land, at his age, with a competitive team that gave him the chance to start, I don't see why MJD won't be in the same boat next year.
It's not just the OL. I watched all of his plays on Game Rewind and he doesn't look he has the same burst he used to have. 'Done' may be too far but I don't see him being a RB1 again unless he goes to an ideal situation.
Agree. We probably toss out "done" a little too easily because we base it on the super lofty expectations of MJD's past, but overall, he's not showing the same skills. He is probably a healthy Ahmad Bradshaw at the best case scenario right now. For what he is and his team is (trading a very good LT didn't help) and considering the RB competition right now in the league, he can't be anything more than top 17 or so in the best case scenario.

 
Schefter on Mike and Mike this morning speculated that the Jags HAVE to be listening for MJD. Basically if you're willing to trade your starting left tackle, then you're willing to trade anyone that's not part of the future plan. He argued that MJD could still have value to a contender trying to compete this year (trying to think of fits, but not sure anyone is obvious right at the moment).

If you're Jacksonville - you can finish 1-15 or 2-14 with him, or you can finish 0-16 or 1-15 without him. Who cares?

 
Schefter on Mike and Mike this morning speculated that the Jags HAVE to be listening for MJD. Basically if you're willing to trade your starting left tackle, then you're willing to trade anyone that's not part of the future plan. He argued that MJD could still have value to a contender trying to compete this year (trying to think of fits, but not sure anyone is obvious right at the moment).

If you're Jacksonville - you can finish 1-15 or 2-14 with him, or you can finish 0-16 or 1-15 without him. Who cares?
It's a no-brainer- there's no way they are re-signing him next year, they may as well see what Todman, Forsett, and Robinson can do.

They won't get much at all in a deal, but at this point, it's more of a favor to him.

 
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I don't think he's done anymore than Doug Martin is done. All he needs is to be traded to a team with a real NFL quality QB.

 
I think you guys that are saying MJD is done, haven't actually been watching him play. Can't say i blame you. Watching a Jaguar game is a little like watching paint dry, but nevertheless. You have to keep in mind that he is coming back off of an foot injury, which kept him from working out through most of the offseason. He came in to camp admittedly over his usual weight and out of shape and was even a bit limited then. The foot doesn't seem to be bothering him however, as he is making seamless cuts and running with power. We should start seeing some explosiveness again pretty soon as he should now be approaching solid football shape. The problems I see is the OL is getting absolutely no push and the coaching staff isn't helping them out with the play calling. The only team with less imaginative play calling I've seen this year is the Rams, which ought to make for a truly exciting game come Sunday. I think he's where he should be right now, but they are going to have to start forcing the safeties and LB'ers to play honest. Getting Blackmon and Lewis back should help to a degree, but they need to start working MJD into the passing game as well and making teams pay for constantly loading the box against them.

 
I think you guys that are saying MJD is done, haven't actually been watching him play. Can't say i blame you. Watching a Jaguar game is a little like watching paint dry, but nevertheless. You have to keep in mind that he is coming back off of an foot injury, which kept him from working out through most of the offseason. He came in to camp admittedly over his usual weight and out of shape and was even a bit limited then. The foot doesn't seem to be bothering him however, as he is making seamless cuts and running with power. We should start seeing some explosiveness again pretty soon as he should now be approaching solid football shape. The problems I see is the OL is getting absolutely no push and the coaching staff isn't helping them out with the play calling. The only team with less imaginative play calling I've seen this year is the Rams, which ought to make for a truly exciting game come Sunday. I think he's where he should be right now, but they are going to have to start forcing the safeties and LB'ers to play honest. Getting Blackmon and Lewis back should help to a degree, but they need to start working MJD into the passing game as well and making teams pay for constantly loading the box against them.
That's my take as well.

As for possible partners, there's not many. I floated the idea of maybe SD since they're off to a decent start but Mathews has been underwhelming despite the resurgence of Rivers and the pass game. Put a back like mjd there and he could make that a very balanced offense.

 
Schefter on Mike and Mike this morning speculated that the Jags HAVE to be listening for MJD. Basically if you're willing to trade your starting left tackle, then you're willing to trade anyone that's not part of the future plan. He argued that MJD could still have value to a contender trying to compete this year (trying to think of fits, but not sure anyone is obvious right at the moment).

If you're Jacksonville - you can finish 1-15 or 2-14 with him, or you can finish 0-16 or 1-15 without him. Who cares?
Cleveland should make a move for MJD. They're 2-2 and tied for the division lead.

Jacksonville is in obvious tank mode or why else would they keep starting Blaine Gabbert?

5th rounder. Donezo.

 
Alex P Keaton said:
He's appears done to me.
Honestly, I don't understand comments like this. He's on one of the worst offenses in the modern football era.....no other talent around him the first 4 weeks.....he doesn't look "done" at all. If Steven Jackson was able to land, at his age, with a competitive team that gave him the chance to start, I don't see why MJD won't be in the same boat next year.
You clearly haven't even seen him play in a single game this season. He looks awful. A good RB would make something out of the bad situation, like MJD did a couple years ago on basically the same team. He can't do that anymore. He's finished. Put a fork in MJD.

 
Schefter on Mike and Mike this morning speculated that the Jags HAVE to be listening for MJD. Basically if you're willing to trade your starting left tackle, then you're willing to trade anyone that's not part of the future plan. He argued that MJD could still have value to a contender trying to compete this year (trying to think of fits, but not sure anyone is obvious right at the moment).

If you're Jacksonville - you can finish 1-15 or 2-14 with him, or you can finish 0-16 or 1-15 without him. Who cares?
Cleveland should make a move for MJD. They're 2-2 and tied for the division lead.

Jacksonville is in obvious tank mode or why else would they keep starting Blaine Gabbert?

5th rounder. Donezo.
lol...0% chance this happens. Cleveland just traded away a young, talented beast of a RB. You expect them to now trade away picks for an older, less talented RB? :lmao:

 
Alex P Keaton said:
He's appears done to me.
Honestly, I don't understand comments like this. He's on one of the worst offenses in the modern football era.....no other talent around him the first 4 weeks.....he doesn't look "done" at all. If Steven Jackson was able to land, at his age, with a competitive team that gave him the chance to start, I don't see why MJD won't be in the same boat next year.
You clearly haven't even seen him play in a single game this season. He looks awful. A good RB would make something out of the bad situation, like MJD did a couple years ago on basically the same team. He can't do that anymore. He's finished. Put a fork in MJD.
Nailed it.

I get what some are saying about how he is coming back, working into shape, etc, but I am thinking in the same camp here as Warrior. A good player will do something despite the scenario (at Rb..qb and WR are limited..can't throw or catch while on your back).

But MJD doesn't seem to have any burst and while I get it that it could round back into shape, the problem is he's pretty old to be recapturing sapped speed or explosiveness. THat is incredibly hard to do unless you are very young.

You don't usually see RBs (or any position) clock in at the same speed they were 3-4 years later, at any point on the career path. My apologies to Darrell Green, of course.

 
So has anyone noticed how bad the Rams are vs the run this year?

Anyone have any thoughts on how MJD's performance this week will affect things?

Just wondering if owners will cut bait if he fails here.

Alternatively is now the time to trade for him and hope for a good one vs the Rams?

According to CBS MJD is still almost 100% owned and 70% started.

 
So has anyone noticed how bad the Rams are vs the run this year?

Anyone have any thoughts on how MJD's performance this week will affect things?

Just wondering if owners will cut bait if he fails here.

Alternatively is now the time to trade for him and hope for a good one vs the Rams?

According to CBS MJD is still almost 100% owned and 70% started.
I'm starting him vs. the Rams. If it's ever going to happen, this would be the week. Not that I'm particularly hopeful.

I think it would be a good time to trade for him. His value is zilch right now, so it wouldn't cost much.

 
I am also starting him this week (RB2, standard 12, only start 2 RB's).

I have Martin on bye, so MJD it is.

 
That wasn't too great against St. Louis, but it was his best game of the year. Anything to like about this situation with Blackmon now in the fold?

 
I was troubled by the fact that JAX threw the ball 4 straight plays from the 5 on one of their posessions instead of giving MJD even one opportunity to run the ball. If he can't get red zone rush attempts his value is severely limited.

 
MJD will remain glued to my bench for awhile. If Jacskonville doesn't move him by the trade deadline, I think I'll be ready to cut bait. Gotta have those open roster spots to churn the waiver wire, looking for those potential Keenan Allen's and Terrance WIlliams. Right now, he's dead weight.

 
He is in better shape than the start of the season. He's going to start having good games.
And he lost two of his better lineman...and is now passed what looks like his easiest matchup of the season.
Denver has given up a lot of points to RBs this year, and SD is also a pretty nice matchup, as is Buffalo and the Browns.
Denver and Cleveland have given up a lot of points to RBs, but that's pretty fluky, mostly due to short TDs- both are very good against the run. Buffalo is pretty good as well.

I'm not optimistic at all, unless they start throwing him the ball more so he can at least get some garbage points. This team is really, really bad.

 
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