Maya Angelou Died (1 Viewer)

[Insein]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/28/us/maya-angelou-obit/

Wasnt a big fan but the wife is. Good modern poet and author.

 

[NCCommish]

Not a huge poetry guy really. Still poet laureate is a big deal. RIP.

 

[McGarnicle]

I thought she died a while back.

 

[Fennis]

She lived a long time

although her poems didnt rhyme.

she also was a great mime

and enjoyed an occassional lime.

 

[Greggity]

Oprah is sad....

 

[metoo]

RIP

 

[DiStefano]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

 

[McGarnicle]

I call this haiku "Maya Angelou is dead".

Maya Angelou

She's dead. She's dead. Dead dead dead.

She was a poet

 

[Rayderr]

Not a huge poetry guy really. Still poet laureate is a big deal. RIP.

She was actually never an official poet laureate.

 

[dutch]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

 

[DiStefano]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

I'm not the only one. But it is my opinion. You are entitled to hold a different one.

"Scholar Zofia Burr, who calls Angelou's poetry "unabashedly public in its ambitions", connects Angelou's lack of critical acclaim to both the public nature of many of her poems and to Angelou's popular success, and to critics' preferences for poetry as a written form rather than a verbal, performed one. Bloom agrees, stating that Angelou's acclaim has been public rather than critical. Critic James Finn Cotter, in his review of Oh Pray, calls it an "unfortunate example of the dangers of success" and states that Angelou's fame has "muted the private and personal quality that it takes to be essential to poetry". Critic John Alfred Avant, despite the fact that the volume was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, states that Diiie "isn't accomplished, not by any means". Even critics who value poetry as an oral tradition devalue Angelou's poetry; critic Bryan D. Bourn, who praises her for using African oral tradition, states that she "slips into banality when she abandons" them."

 

[TobiasFunke]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

I'm not the only one. But it is my opinion. You are entitled to hold a different one.

"Scholar Zofia Burr, who calls Angelou's poetry "unabashedly public in its ambitions", connects Angelou's lack of critical acclaim to both the public nature of many of her poems and to Angelou's popular success, and to critics' preferences for poetry as a written form rather than a verbal, performed one. Bloom agrees, stating that Angelou's acclaim has been public rather than critical. Critic James Finn Cotter, in his review of Oh Pray, calls it an "unfortunate example of the dangers of success" and states that Angelou's fame has "muted the private and personal quality that it takes to be essential to poetry". Critic John Alfred Avant, despite the fact that the volume was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, states that Diiie "isn't accomplished, not by any means". Even critics who value poetry as an oral tradition devalue Angelou's poetry; critic Bryan D. Bourn, who praises her for using African oral tradition, states that she "slips into banality when she abandons" them."

The more interesting question is why would you choose a death thread to dump on her publicly? It's not even like she's some divisive national figure like a politician or something. I don't particularly care for Elton John's work, but if he died tomorrow my first reaction wouldn't be to rush to an internet message board thread about him and talk about how his music is crappy and overrated.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

I'm not the only one. But it is my opinion. You are entitled to hold a different one.

"Scholar Zofia Burr, who calls Angelou's poetry "unabashedly public in its ambitions", connects Angelou's lack of critical acclaim to both the public nature of many of her poems and to Angelou's popular success, and to critics' preferences for poetry as a written form rather than a verbal, performed one. Bloom agrees, stating that Angelou's acclaim has been public rather than critical. Critic James Finn Cotter, in his review of Oh Pray, calls it an "unfortunate example of the dangers of success" and states that Angelou's fame has "muted the private and personal quality that it takes to be essential to poetry". Critic John Alfred Avant, despite the fact that the volume was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, states that Diiie "isn't accomplished, not by any means". Even critics who value poetry as an oral tradition devalue Angelou's poetry; critic Bryan D. Bourn, who praises her for using African oral tradition, states that she "slips into banality when she abandons" them."

The more interesting question is why would you choose a death thread to dump on her publicly? It's not even like she's some divisive national figure like a politician or something. I don't particularly care for Elton John's work, but if he died tomorrow my first reaction wouldn't be to rush to an internet message board thread about him and talk about how his music is crappy and overrated.

Because he doesn't think highly of her so this thread opened up the subject of Maya Angelou. I really don't see this board as one to start a thread on her if she was alive. Calling someone overrated and then showing poet critics whom feel the same way isn't really dumping on her. And just wait until Oprah throws in her two cents and fat ### on Maya and her passing. She'll make Maya seem to be the greatest poet to ever have walked the earth. I'm sure Oprah has a special for her network in the works right now.

To the bold: Maybe you wouldn't but many on here would

 

[TobiasFunke]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

I'm not the only one. But it is my opinion. You are entitled to hold a different one.

"Scholar Zofia Burr, who calls Angelou's poetry "unabashedly public in its ambitions", connects Angelou's lack of critical acclaim to both the public nature of many of her poems and to Angelou's popular success, and to critics' preferences for poetry as a written form rather than a verbal, performed one. Bloom agrees, stating that Angelou's acclaim has been public rather than critical. Critic James Finn Cotter, in his review of Oh Pray, calls it an "unfortunate example of the dangers of success" and states that Angelou's fame has "muted the private and personal quality that it takes to be essential to poetry". Critic John Alfred Avant, despite the fact that the volume was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, states that Diiie "isn't accomplished, not by any means". Even critics who value poetry as an oral tradition devalue Angelou's poetry; critic Bryan D. Bourn, who praises her for using African oral tradition, states that she "slips into banality when she abandons" them."

The more interesting question is why would you choose a death thread to dump on her publicly? It's not even like she's some divisive national figure like a politician or something. I don't particularly care for Elton John's work, but if he died tomorrow my first reaction wouldn't be to rush to an internet message board thread about him and talk about how his music is crappy and overrated.

Because he doesn't think highly of her so this thread opened up the subject of Maya Angelou. I really don't see this board as one to start a thread on her if she was alive. Calling someone overrated and then showing poet critics whom feel the same way isn't really dumping on her. And just wait until Oprah throws in her two cents and fat ### on Maya and her passing. She'll make Maya seem to be the greatest poet to ever have walked the earth. I'm sure Oprah has a special for her network in the works right now

Um, OK?

I'm not saying he's a terrible person for doing it, it just struck me as a very weird thing to do. I'd never react that way- even if someone died who I thought did something far worse than make art I didn't like, I probably wouldn't think to myself "what a great chance to publicly declare to a bunch of iFriends that I don't like this person."

 

[TobiasFunke]

Also ... did Oprah murder your entire family or something? If not, maybe it's time to switch to decaf?

 

[Joe Summer]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

Oh come on. Every year she kept getting drafted way too high in the WCOFP, then would only deliver like one poem for the whole season.

 

[Freelove]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

I'm not the only one. But it is my opinion. You are entitled to hold a different one.

"Scholar Zofia Burr, who calls Angelou's poetry "unabashedly public in its ambitions", connects Angelou's lack of critical acclaim to both the public nature of many of her poems and to Angelou's popular success, and to critics' preferences for poetry as a written form rather than a verbal, performed one. Bloom agrees, stating that Angelou's acclaim has been public rather than critical. Critic James Finn Cotter, in his review of Oh Pray, calls it an "unfortunate example of the dangers of success" and states that Angelou's fame has "muted the private and personal quality that it takes to be essential to poetry". Critic John Alfred Avant, despite the fact that the volume was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, states that Diiie "isn't accomplished, not by any means". Even critics who value poetry as an oral tradition devalue Angelou's poetry; critic Bryan D. Bourn, who praises her for using African oral tradition, states that she "slips into banality when she abandons" them."

The more interesting question is why would you choose a death thread to dump on her publicly? It's not even like she's some divisive national figure like a politician or something. I don't particularly care for Elton John's work, but if he died tomorrow my first reaction wouldn't be to rush to an internet message board thread about him and talk about how his music is crappy and overrated.

I also find it incomprehensible why certain people would take the occasion of an award-winning, black, liberal woman's death to downplay her accomplishments and...

...oh, wait. NM.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

I think she's overrated too.

 

[Greggity]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

I think she's overrated too.

Racist...

 

[Mister Martie]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

I think she's overrated too.

Racist...

Welcome back, Peens.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

I think she's overrated too.

Racist...

Related

 

[Politician Spock]

Is she related to Caillou?

The answer could really affect how I feel about this.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

I think she's overrated too.

You overplayed your shtick when you tried to pull off "Hannibal isn't a good TV show." Kinda hard to fish with any subtlety after trying something that stupid.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

I'm not the only one. But it is my opinion. You are entitled to hold a different one.

"Scholar Zofia Burr, who calls Angelou's poetry "unabashedly public in its ambitions", connects Angelou's lack of critical acclaim to both the public nature of many of her poems and to Angelou's popular success, and to critics' preferences for poetry as a written form rather than a verbal, performed one. Bloom agrees, stating that Angelou's acclaim has been public rather than critical. Critic James Finn Cotter, in his review of Oh Pray, calls it an "unfortunate example of the dangers of success" and states that Angelou's fame has "muted the private and personal quality that it takes to be essential to poetry". Critic John Alfred Avant, despite the fact that the volume was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, states that Diiie "isn't accomplished, not by any means". Even critics who value poetry as an oral tradition devalue Angelou's poetry; critic Bryan D. Bourn, who praises her for using African oral tradition, states that she "slips into banality when she abandons" them."

The more interesting question is why would you choose a death thread to dump on her publicly? It's not even like she's some divisive national figure like a politician or something. I don't particularly care for Elton John's work, but if he died tomorrow my first reaction wouldn't be to rush to an internet message board thread about him and talk about how his music is crappy and overrated.

Because he doesn't think highly of her so this thread opened up the subject of Maya Angelou. I really don't see this board as one to start a thread on her if she was alive. Calling someone overrated and then showing poet critics whom feel the same way isn't really dumping on her. And just wait until Oprah throws in her two cents and fat ### on Maya and her passing. She'll make Maya seem to be the greatest poet to ever have walked the earth. I'm sure Oprah has a special for her network in the works right now

Um, OK?

I'm not saying he's a terrible person for doing it, it just struck me as a very weird thing to do. I'd never react that way- even if someone died who I thought did something far worse than make art I didn't like, I probably wouldn't think to myself "what a great chance to publicly declare to a bunch of iFriends that I don't like this person."

See bold

 

[DiStefano]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

I'm not the only one. But it is my opinion. You are entitled to hold a different one.

"Scholar Zofia Burr, who calls Angelou's poetry "unabashedly public in its ambitions", connects Angelou's lack of critical acclaim to both the public nature of many of her poems and to Angelou's popular success, and to critics' preferences for poetry as a written form rather than a verbal, performed one. Bloom agrees, stating that Angelou's acclaim has been public rather than critical. Critic James Finn Cotter, in his review of Oh Pray, calls it an "unfortunate example of the dangers of success" and states that Angelou's fame has "muted the private and personal quality that it takes to be essential to poetry". Critic John Alfred Avant, despite the fact that the volume was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, states that Diiie "isn't accomplished, not by any means". Even critics who value poetry as an oral tradition devalue Angelou's poetry; critic Bryan D. Bourn, who praises her for using African oral tradition, states that she "slips into banality when she abandons" them."

The more interesting question is why would you choose a death thread to dump on her publicly? It's not even like she's some divisive national figure like a politician or something. I don't particularly care for Elton John's work, but if he died tomorrow my first reaction wouldn't be to rush to an internet message board thread about him and talk about how his music is crappy and overrated.

I also find it incomprehensible why certain people would take the occasion of an award-winning, black, liberal woman's death to downplay her accomplishments and...

...oh, wait. NM.

Her accomplishments were her accomplishments; I only stated that some rated them too highly. There was no criticism of her, merely of others view of her. Some of her poems are very good.

 

[Insein]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

I think she's overrated too.

That went without saying. I just think of you as Jay Sherman.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Great outfielder but the whole urinating on his hands thing... I dunno.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

I think she's overrated too.

That went without saying. I just think of you as Jay Sherman.

Or you can think of me as someone who doesn't need to be spoon-fed his culture. Either way...whatever blows your skirt up.

 

[Insein]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

I think she's overrated too.

That went without saying. I just think of you as Jay Sherman.

Or you can think of me as someone who doesn't need to be spoon-fed his culture. Either way...whatever blows your skirt up.

My way is funnier and less crotchety.

 

[Politician Spock]

I didn't know her poetry, but she was great in the episode where Chandler slept with one of Joey's sisters but was so drunk he didn't know which one she was.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

I think she's overrated too.

That went without saying. I just think of you as Jay Sherman.

Or you can think of me as someone who doesn't need to be spoon-fed his culture. Either way...whatever blows your skirt up.

My way is funnier and less crotchety.

Your face is crotchety.

 

[McGarnicle]

Serious question -- would we have heard of her at all if her name was Helen Jenkins?

 

[Freelove]

Serious question -- would we have heard of her at all if her name was Helen Jenkins?

If you believe that at all, it's a check in the plus column for her poetic ear, since she chose the name.

 

[mquinnjr]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

I think she's overrated too.

A poll would solve this dilemma.

 

[Native]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

I love how FBGers can have an opinion on anything. Have you ever *really* read more than 2-3 of her poems, either before or after she died? Have you read other great poets of her generation and compared them to her? Must we simplify everything into a top 10 list or some sort of banal comparison?

<nottop10butpossiblytop20>

 

[Rayderr]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

I love how FBGers can have an opinion on anything. Have you ever *really* read more than 2-3 of her poems, either before or after she died? Have you read other great poets of her generation and compared them to her? Must we simplify everything into a top 10 list or some sort of banal comparison?

<nottop10butpossiblytop20>

It's for that reason I do think she's overrated, but through no fault of her own. For whatever reason, she has obtained a certain level of celebrity but people don't really know why. People praise her for titles she's never had (i.e. poet laureate) and say what a great poet she is, yet can't name a single one of her poems.

 

[17seconds]

CNN has it as the biggest, most prominent story. Interviewing all kinds of people on the air about her.

Fox has it as one of a group of headlines. Top story is about some guy who had his guns taken from him by mexcicans.

lol

 

[Fennis]

Serious question -- would we have heard of her at all if her name was Helen Jenkins?

Yes

 

[timschochet]

I don't know enough about her poetry, but the lady had a great speaking voice. Distinctive and commanding, a female version of James Earl Jones.

 

[McGarnicle]

Serious question -- would we have heard of her at all if her name was Helen Jenkins?

If you believe that at all, it's a check in the plus column for her poetic ear, since she chose the name.

Or the manager at the Purple Onion where she used to dance.

 

[Fennis]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

I love how FBGers can have an opinion on anything. Have you ever *really* read more than 2-3 of her poems, either before or after she died? Have you read other great poets of her generation and compared them to her? Must we simplify everything into a top 10 list or some sort of banal comparison?

<nottop10butpossiblytop20>

I actually would like to see a top list from DiStefano of the top 10 poets of the last 30 years that I should read.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

By whom and how did you reach this conclusion?

Gonna go with: "Liberals liked her."

 

[DiStefano]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

I love how FBGers can have an opinion on anything. Have you ever *really* read more than 2-3 of her poems, either before or after she died? Have you read other great poets of her generation and compared them to her? Must we simplify everything into a top 10 list or some sort of banal comparison?

<nottop10butpossiblytop20>

I actually would like to see a top list from DiStefano of the top 10 poets of the last 30 years that I should read.

Helen Jenkins.

Oh, wait...she's a triathlete, but what's the diff?

 

[Greggity]

CNN has it as the biggest, most prominent story. Interviewing all kinds of people on the air about her.

Fox has it as one of a group of headlines. Top story is about some guy who had his guns taken from him by mexcicans.

lol

lol

 

[Rayderr]

CNN has it as the biggest, most prominent story. Interviewing all kinds of people on the air about her.

Fox has it as one of a group of headlines. Top story is about some guy who had his guns taken from him by mexcicans.

lol

You mean the US Marine who has been held by the Mexican Government for 2 months for crossing over the border illegally (with 3 guns in his vehicle)?

 

[Greggity]

CNN has it as the biggest, most prominent story. Interviewing all kinds of people on the air about her.

Fox has it as one of a group of headlines. Top story is about some guy who had his guns taken from him by mexcicans.

lol

You mean the US Marine who has been held by the Mexican Government for 2 months for crossing over the border illegally (with 3 guns in his vehicle)?

The mexican govt doesnt need you to do anything illegally to keep you. They are fine just making stuff up....

 

[timschochet]

CNN has it as the biggest, most prominent story. Interviewing all kinds of people on the air about her.

Fox has it as one of a group of headlines. Top story is about some guy who had his guns taken from him by mexcicans.

lol

You mean the US Marine who has been held by the Mexican Government for 2 months for crossing over the border illegally (with 3 guns in his vehicle)?

Did something new happen with that story? Or is Fox just continuing to endlessly repeat it because it's red meat for the nativist element of its audience?

 

[Native]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

I love how FBGers can have an opinion on anything. Have you ever *really* read more than 2-3 of her poems, either before or after she died? Have you read other great poets of her generation and compared them to her? Must we simplify everything into a top 10 list or some sort of banal comparison?

<nottop10butpossiblytop20>

It's for that reason I do think she's overrated, but through no fault of her own. For whatever reason, she has obtained a certain level of celebrity but people don't really know why. People praise her for titles she's never had (i.e. poet laureate) and say what a great poet she is, yet can't name a single one of her poems.

I feel that way about EInstein. And Newton. Totally overrated. I mean who *really* understand the Theory of Relativity.

 

[DiStefano]

Overrated, but hey, she was a celeb, and that makes her into a huge figure.

I love how FBGers can have an opinion on anything. Have you ever *really* read more than 2-3 of her poems, either before or after she died? Have you read other great poets of her generation and compared them to her? Must we simplify everything into a top 10 list or some sort of banal comparison?

<nottop10butpossiblytop20>

It's for that reason I do think she's overrated, but through no fault of her own. For whatever reason, she has obtained a certain level of celebrity but people don't really know why. People praise her for titles she's never had (i.e. poet laureate) and say what a great poet she is, yet can't name a single one of her poems.

I feel that way about EInstein. And Newton. Totally overrated. I mean who *really* understand the Theory of Relativity.

Why would you feel that way about Elnstein? He hasn't even died yet.

 

[McGarnicle]

Pretty fine back in the day