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Mayock's top 5 per position (1 Viewer)

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Quarterback:

First-round potential

Blaine Gabbert, Missouri

Jake Locker, Washington

Cam Newton, Auburn

Ryan Mallett, Arkansas

Next level

Andy Dalton, TCU

Ricky Stanzi, Iowa

Colin Kaepernick, Nevada

Pat Devlin, Delaware

Running Back:

*1. Mark Ingram, Alabama

2. Daniel Thomas, Kansas State

*3. Mikel LeShoure, Illinois

*4. Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech

*T-5. Jacquizz Rodgers, Oregon State

T-5. Kendall Hunter, Oklahoma State

Wide receiver:

*1. A.J. Green, Georgia

*2. Julio Jones, Alabama

*3. Jonathan Baldwin, Pittsburgh

4. Titus Young, Boise State

T-5. Jerrel Jernigan, Troy

T-5. Greg Little, North Carolina

*T-5. Randall Cobb, Kentucky

Tight end:

*1. Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame

2. Lance Kendricks, Wisconsin

3. Luke Stocker, Tennessee

4. D.J. Williams, Arkansas

5. Charles Clay, Tulsa

Guard/center:

1. Mike Pouncey, Florida

2. Stefen Wisniewski, Penn State

3. Danny Watkins, Baylor

4. John Moffitt, Wisconsin

T-5. Rodney Hudson, Florida State

T-5. William Rackley, Lehigh

Tackle:

1. Nate Solder, Colorado

2. Anthony Castanzo, Boston College

3. Tyron Smith, Southern California

4. Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin

T-5. Ben Ijalana, Villanova

T-5. Derek Sherrod, Mississippi State

Defensive end:

*1. Da'Quan Bowers, Clemson

2. Adrian Clayborn, Iowa

3. Aldon Smith, Missouri

4. Ryan Kerrigan, Purdue

*T-5. J.J. Watt, Wisconsin

*T-5. Robert Quinn, North Carolina

Defensive tackle:

*1. Nick Fairley, Auburn

*2. Marcell Dareus, Alabama

*3. Corey Liuget, Illinois

*4. Jurrell Casey, Southern California

5. Stephen Paea, Oregon State

Linebacker:

1. Von Miller, Texas A&M

*2. Akeem Ayers, UCLA

*3. Justin Houston, Georgia

4. Bruce Carter, North Carolina

*5. Martez Wilson, Illinois

Cornerback:

*1. Patrick Peterson, LSU

2. Prince Amukamara, Nebraska

*3. Brandon Harris, Miami (Fla.)

*4. Aaron Williams, Texas

5. Jimmy Smith, Colorado

Safety:

*1. Rahim Moore, UCLA

2. Ahmad Black, Florida

3. Deunta Williams, North Carolina

*4.Robert Sands, West Virginia

*5. Will Hill, Florida

 
I'm still curious as to all the love for Gabbert.

I'm a huge Missouri fan (if anyone's seen my posts, this is pretty obvious). Yes, he LOOKS like a quarterback. Yes, he sometimes makes some pretty good plays.

Here's my issues:

1. He's never been a dominant college quarterback. Against good teams, the best he's been is slightly above average (Oklahoma), and usually, he's pretty terrible.

2. He consistently makes bad decisions. Is this something that can really be taught out of him?

3. Chase Daniel was better all-around. He didn't get drafted, and he's now a backup in NO. Does 6 inches of height really make Gabbert a first-rounder?

 
I'm still curious as to all the love for Gabbert.I'm a huge Missouri fan (if anyone's seen my posts, this is pretty obvious). Yes, he LOOKS like a quarterback. Yes, he sometimes makes some pretty good plays.Here's my issues:1. He's never been a dominant college quarterback. Against good teams, the best he's been is slightly above average (Oklahoma), and usually, he's pretty terrible.2. He consistently makes bad decisions. Is this something that can really be taught out of him?3. Chase Daniel was better all-around. He didn't get drafted, and he's now a backup in NO. Does 6 inches of height really make Gabbert a first-rounder?
Something is fishy about his rankings. He only threw 16 TDs last year out of a spread offense playing in the Big 12.
 
I'm still curious as to all the love for Gabbert.I'm a huge Missouri fan (if anyone's seen my posts, this is pretty obvious). Yes, he LOOKS like a quarterback. Yes, he sometimes makes some pretty good plays.Here's my issues:1. He's never been a dominant college quarterback. Against good teams, the best he's been is slightly above average (Oklahoma), and usually, he's pretty terrible.2. He consistently makes bad decisions. Is this something that can really be taught out of him?3. Chase Daniel was better all-around. He didn't get drafted, and he's now a backup in NO. Does 6 inches of height really make Gabbert a first-rounder?
I wonder why, also. Has he ever played under center?After all the Senior bowl hype, I would think Colin Kaepernick has replace Locker in alot of rankings.
 
I'm still curious as to all the love for Gabbert.I'm a huge Missouri fan (if anyone's seen my posts, this is pretty obvious). Yes, he LOOKS like a quarterback. Yes, he sometimes makes some pretty good plays.Here's my issues:1. He's never been a dominant college quarterback. Against good teams, the best he's been is slightly above average (Oklahoma), and usually, he's pretty terrible.2. He consistently makes bad decisions. Is this something that can really be taught out of him?3. Chase Daniel was better all-around. He didn't get drafted, and he's now a backup in NO. Does 6 inches of height really make Gabbert a first-rounder?
Something is fishy about his rankings. He only threw 16 TDs last year out of a spread offense playing in the Big 12.
In defense of his stats last year, Mizzou lost a lot at WR & TE over the past couple of years, and their starting RB got kicked off the team just before the season started.That said, I don't get the love for him either.
 
I'm still curious as to all the love for Gabbert.I'm a huge Missouri fan (if anyone's seen my posts, this is pretty obvious). Yes, he LOOKS like a quarterback. Yes, he sometimes makes some pretty good plays.Here's my issues:1. He's never been a dominant college quarterback. Against good teams, the best he's been is slightly above average (Oklahoma), and usually, he's pretty terrible.2. He consistently makes bad decisions. Is this something that can really be taught out of him?3. Chase Daniel was better all-around. He didn't get drafted, and he's now a backup in NO. Does 6 inches of height really make Gabbert a first-rounder?
Something is fishy about his rankings. He only threw 16 TDs last year out of a spread offense playing in the Big 12.
In defense of his stats last year, Mizzou lost a lot at WR & TE over the past couple of years, and their starting RB got kicked off the team just before the season started.That said, I don't get the love for him either.
Michael Egnew was a first-team All American this year. It's not like he didn't have receiving talent. T.J. Moe is better than anyone on Daniel's teams not named Maclin (yes, that includes Alexander).Washington was a blow - but it's not like we used him much anyway.
 
I'm still curious as to all the love for Gabbert.I'm a huge Missouri fan (if anyone's seen my posts, this is pretty obvious). Yes, he LOOKS like a quarterback. Yes, he sometimes makes some pretty good plays.Here's my issues:1. He's never been a dominant college quarterback. Against good teams, the best he's been is slightly above average (Oklahoma), and usually, he's pretty terrible.2. He consistently makes bad decisions. Is this something that can really be taught out of him?3. Chase Daniel was better all-around. He didn't get drafted, and he's now a backup in NO. Does 6 inches of height really make Gabbert a first-rounder?
I wonder why, also. Has he ever played under center?
I believe he did in high school, but I could be remembering incorrectly.
 
I'm still curious as to all the love for Gabbert.I'm a huge Missouri fan (if anyone's seen my posts, this is pretty obvious). Yes, he LOOKS like a quarterback. Yes, he sometimes makes some pretty good plays.Here's my issues:1. He's never been a dominant college quarterback. Against good teams, the best he's been is slightly above average (Oklahoma), and usually, he's pretty terrible.2. He consistently makes bad decisions. Is this something that can really be taught out of him?3. Chase Daniel was better all-around. He didn't get drafted, and he's now a backup in NO. Does 6 inches of height really make Gabbert a first-rounder?
Something is fishy about his rankings. He only threw 16 TDs last year out of a spread offense playing in the Big 12.
In defense of his stats last year, Mizzou lost a lot at WR & TE over the past couple of years, and their starting RB got kicked off the team just before the season started.That said, I don't get the love for him either.
Michael Egnew was a first-team All American this year. It's not like he didn't have receiving talent. T.J. Moe is better than anyone on Daniel's teams not named Maclin (yes, that includes Alexander).Washington was a blow - but it's not like we used him much anyway.
As I have T.J. Moe on my keeper college fantasy team, I hope you are right that better than Alexander (and that he continues to get better). I'm sure he'll get a lot of Wes Welker comparisons come draft scouting time. Anyway, Alexander and Perry accounted for ~2500 receiving yards and 20 receiving TDs between them in 2009. That was a lot of production to replace in the offense. Before the season started, I was expecting a dip in Gabbert's production because of their losses on offense, which is all that I was driving at.Regardless, I agree that his decision-making can be a bit questionable and as I stated above, I don't get the love for Gabbert either.
 
These days I feel one ranking of DE's is not sufficient.

In my eyes they have to be separated as 3-4 DE's and 4-3 DE's for them to be truly comparable within the groups. Cameron Jordan brings a lot of qualities for a 3-4 team whereas Robert Quinn is a 4-3 DE at first (and maybe a 3-4 OLB if he can convert) and offers what such a defense is looking for.

I respect Mayock for sticking to his rankings and he always have some choices that differs from the majority. However, a top 5 is a little to less of a pool for a Draft expert.

 
I don't see Quizz Rodgers as an elite NFL RB ever....it's a terrible year for RBs if he is top 5.

Of the Pac10 players, this is the one that stands out.

 
These days I feel one ranking of DE's is not sufficient.In my eyes they have to be separated as 3-4 DE's and 4-3 DE's for them to be truly comparable within the groups. Cameron Jordan brings a lot of qualities for a 3-4 team whereas Robert Quinn is a 4-3 DE at first (and maybe a 3-4 OLB if he can convert) and offers what such a defense is looking for.I respect Mayock for sticking to his rankings and he always have some choices that differs from the majority. However, a top 5 is a little to less of a pool for a Draft expert.
And No mention of Cameron Heyward as well...I will almost guarantee he is a first round DE selection at the draft in a few short months, absent a complete meltdown at the Combine/pro-day.
 
Where does Hankerson, the WR for the U rank? I dont care what his forty or shuttle time is, that dude is a beast that makes big plays in every game period. Wrs from the U have a nice track record of becoming very fantasy relevant in the pros...

 
Where does Hankerson, the WR for the U rank? I dont care what his forty or shuttle time is, that dude is a beast that makes big plays in every game period. Wrs from the U have a nice track record of becoming very fantasy relevant in the pros...
I'ld probably put in the top 5-10 wr's in this draft
 
Amused to Death said:
I think we can all agree that this years QB's are all pretty bad looking. Someone has to be #1.
Exactly why the Eagles may well get a 1st round pick (+) for Kolb.
You're joking right? You're talking about a guy who couldn't hold the starting job that was handed to him and has 11 TDs against 14 INTs in his 4 year career. He's barely a 60% passer and has fumbled 9 times in 19 games.
 
Amused to Death said:
I think we can all agree that this years QB's are all pretty bad looking. Someone has to be #1.
Exactly why the Eagles may well get a 1st round pick (+) for Kolb.
You're joking right? You're talking about a guy who couldn't hold the starting job that was handed to him and has 11 TDs against 14 INTs in his 4 year career. He's barely a 60% passer and has fumbled 9 times in 19 games.
Eagles fans insist he's worth a HIGH first rounder, to boot. They're very effective at convincing themselves of this. Not so much anyone else.
 
Amused to Death said:
I think we can all agree that this years QB's are all pretty bad looking. Someone has to be #1.
Exactly why the Eagles may well get a 1st round pick (+) for Kolb.
You're joking right? You're talking about a guy who couldn't hold the starting job that was handed to him and has 11 TDs against 14 INTs in his 4 year career. He's barely a 60% passer and has fumbled 9 times in 19 games.
Eagles fans insist he's worth a HIGH first rounder, to boot. They're very effective at convincing themselves of this. Not so much anyone else.
The Eagles do have a history of trading QBs at highway robbery prices though.
 
I'm still curious as to all the love for Gabbert.I'm a huge Missouri fan (if anyone's seen my posts, this is pretty obvious). Yes, he LOOKS like a quarterback. Yes, he sometimes makes some pretty good plays.Here's my issues:1. He's never been a dominant college quarterback. Against good teams, the best he's been is slightly above average (Oklahoma), and usually, he's pretty terrible.2. He consistently makes bad decisions. Is this something that can really be taught out of him?3. Chase Daniel was better all-around. He didn't get drafted, and he's now a backup in NO. Does 6 inches of height really make Gabbert a first-rounder?
He gets so scared in the pocket, hes got complete protection and he will randomly just scramble in a direction and be wrapped up immediately
 
Amused to Death said:
I think we can all agree that this years QB's are all pretty bad looking. Someone has to be #1.
Exactly why the Eagles may well get a 1st round pick (+) for Kolb.
You're joking right? You're talking about a guy who couldn't hold the starting job that was handed to him and has 11 TDs against 14 INTs in his 4 year career. He's barely a 60% passer and has fumbled 9 times in 19 games.
And a guy who's NFL ready and has been named NFC Player of the week 3 times. And you don't know what you're about him not being able to hold the job. He's the reason the Eagles traded McNabb, not Vick.
 
Regarding Gabbert:

1. It's not 6 inches, it is the rocket arm and incredible upside that seperates him from Daniel.

2. College production isn't a great indicator... Colt Brennan, Texas Tech QBs vs. Josh Freeman. Joe Flacco, etc...

3. Regarding WRs...are you kidding me? Maclin was obviously elite, but Alexander is and always will be head and shoulders ahead of Moe. You can't teach size or speed, Moe really has neither and is a better version of Tommy Saunders. I mean, I love the kid and the way he plays, but he is basically a possession WR and he and Egnew don't really compare as players to Alexander, Coffman or Rucker. We entered this season with the intent to lean on Washington, things changed and Moe and Egnew were forced to step up, but I feel you are getting too caught up in the stats and not overall talent. I'd argue the best 3 WRs on the team are redshirt frosh Hunt, Sasser and Lucas.

 

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