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McDaniels Turns down the Browns (1 Viewer)

Yeah, I am not sure which is worse. Wanting McDaniels as your HC or having him withdraw from your open HC position.

 
I'll also add, he could have withdrawn from consideration to save face, if he felt that his interview went extremely poor (and he would not be receiving anyway).

 
Sweet Love said:
I'll also add, he could have withdrawn from consideration to save face, if he felt that his interview went extremely poor (and he would not be receiving anyway).
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But Schefty hair-plugs said he had "an awesome" interview. Not sure if it was "totally radical", maybe it had to be "gnarly to the max" to seal the deal. ;)

 
msommer said:
Did he interview yet?
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ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Patriots OC Josh McDaniels has withdrawn his name from consideration to be the Browns' next head coach.
Per Schefter's source, McDaniels had "an awesome" interview with the Browns over the weekend, but it "isn't the right time for him to become a head coach." McDaniels knows he likely only has one more head-coaching shot after his disaster run in Denver, so he needs to make sure it's the right one. Cleveland doesn't have a quarterback or a running back, the Browns brass seems to be a bit dysfunctional, and McDaniels already has a cushy gig coaching Tom Brady. Taking all those things into account, McDaniels is going to keep waiting. He's only 37 years old and could be in line to succeed Bill Belichick.
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Or he was told he wasn't going to get the job and so he withdrew his name to save face. Think positive Cleveland fans!

 
Sweet Love said:
I'll also add, he could have withdrawn from consideration to save face, if he felt that his interview went extremely poor (and he would not be receiving anyway).
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Sure SL, always another side of the coin. I just think it is more logical based on Cleveland and what they produce in terms of wins and losses, where they typically pick in the draft, I might just assume that McDaniels received their organizational message on the interview and wanted no part of it.

I won't be shocked if in 2-3 years we see Cleveland trying to fin their "new" GM and coach. McDaniels makes good money working for one of the best 5 organizations in football, he coached at a tremendous organization in Denver, why belittle himself in Cleveland. I think he was doing them a favor since technically his boss used to coach for them although technically that was really a different team.

I'm glad he didn't take the job. Teams firing coaches after 1 season with nothing to work with and he still had the respectable, makes no sense to me and why would any potential coach want to go there after watching what happened to Chud?

 
Someone one TV was saying yesterday he was not sure he wanted to leave NE since he had 4 kids and had promised his old lady he would not move the family again after two recent relocation's. I tend to dismiss this talk but in this case I think could have merit. I still think he'll leave for a HC job when in a year or two but it means he's going to be selective and part of that process is not accepting a job for a team that just gave the last guy a grand total of one year. Quite possible he's holding out for a franchise prone to show more patience.

 
There have been rumors that McDaniels has been promised the HC in NE once BB retires. This only adds some credence to the rumor. Of course, that could all be bogus and he could sign somewhere else after the season is over.

 
Regardless, it's poor form to go for an interview and then withdraw because 'the time wasn't right'

If the time wasn't right, don't waste everyone's time by interviewing.

Rule #1: Don't embarrass your boss.

McDaniels failed at this, and don't think other teams didn't notice. Next time around, teams are going to be much more reluctant to offer him a position.

 
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craxie said:
Regardless, it's poor form to go for an interview and then withdraw because 'the time wasn't right'

If the time wasn't right, don't waste everyone's time by interviewing.

Rule #1: Don't embarrass your boss.

McDaniels failed at this, and don't think other teams didn't notice. Next time around, teams are going to be much more reluctant to offer him a position.
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If people didn't see the issues when McDaniels was a head coach BEFORE, then they are plain blind and stupid. And if CLE begged and begged him for an interview (which it sounds like they did because they went to see him in NE and not vice versa), I would write it off as no harm, no foul. who knows, he could have said he really wasn't that enamored with being a head coach and they insisted on meeting with him.

 
Anarchy99 said:
There have been rumors that McDaniels has been promised the HC in NE once BB retires. This only adds some credence to the rumor. Of course, that could all be bogus and he could sign somewhere else after the season is over.
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Wouldn't really make any sense for him to interview elsewhere if he's been "promised the HC in NE once BB retires", now would it?

There's 0 chance he's been "promised" that job as of yet. Maybe something along the lines of "we'll potentially consider you if the time comes"

 
The Cleveland job seems rather desirable to me. Solid Defense. Weapons on offense. Good lines. Two first round picks and an early second.

Maybe the front office told him he wouldn't have any control over the roster? I wouldn't give him any either...

 
There is a lot of hate for McDaniels in this thread.

He did not have a very good 1st stint as a coach, but I think he has a bright future as a HC in the league. I get that he was cocky and came across as a bit of ##### bag in his first stint, but the guy he works under is no different and could go down as one of the best coaches in the NFL ever. McDaniels is biding his time for the right gig whether that be in NE down the road or a much better situation than what Cleveland has going forward. In the mean time he is in a good spot and learning under one of the greats.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Patriots OC Josh McDaniels has withdrawn his name from consideration to be the Browns' next head coach.
Per Schefter's source, McDaniels had "an awesome" interview with the Browns over the weekend, but it "isn't the right time for him to become a head coach." McDaniels knows he likely only has one more head-coaching shot after his disaster run in Denver, so he needs to make sure it's the right one. Cleveland doesn't have a quarterback or a running back, the Browns brass seems to be a bit dysfunctional, and McDaniels already has a cushy gig coaching Tom Brady. Taking all those things into account, McDaniels is going to keep waiting. He's only 37 years old and could be in line to succeed Bill Belichick.
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I wonder what happened between the weekend and now. Maybe he got a courtesy message that they weren't going to hire him and then issued his withdrawal. Maybe the Patriots made some vaguely-promising wording about "having a shot at their HC gig in the future" as Warrior mentioned. Maybe his agent got wind that some other team might be interested. Maybe the Browns gave him a deadline. It just seems odd that there'd be the "awesome" interview, then 3 days of nothing further happening about working for the Browns, then withdrawing.

The Browns are better off not hiring him.

 
Anarchy99 said:
There have been rumors that McDaniels has been promised the HC in NE once BB retires. This only adds some credence to the rumor. Of course, that could all be bogus and he could sign somewhere else after the season is over.
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Would it be a great job if Tom Terrific was gone too?
 
Carter_Can_Fly said:
There is a lot of hate for McDaniels in this thread.

He did not have a very good 1st stint as a coach, but I think he has a bright future as a HC in the league. I get that he was cocky and came across as a bit of ##### bag in his first stint, but the guy he works under is no different and could go down as one of the best coaches in the NFL ever. McDaniels is biding his time for the right gig whether that be in NE down the road or a much better situation than what Cleveland has going forward. In the mean time he is in a good spot and learning under one of the greats.
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I don't even like him as an OC.

 
The Cleveland job seems to lack some control. A lot of coaches want to be the GM and hire their own assistants and bring in "their" players and...Cleveland lacks some of that.

I'm not saying the Lions job was offered to him-If McDaniels truly believes he has just one more shot, a job like the Lions with many pieces in place already seems so much more ideal than Cleveland.

I'm curious when each interviewed coach asked what the plan was at QB and RB, what Cleveland's brass replied.

 
Grahamburn said:
Maybe the front office told him he wouldn't have any control over the roster? I wouldn't give him any either...
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Me either. Chances of him drafting a Tebow type again far outweigh his chances of drafting a Demaryius Thomas, Decker, Moreno or Beadles type.

 
I wonder if BB feels any vindication towards Cleveland or if he just doesn't care and doesn't remember his stint there? He has to have some thoughts about it given they keep trying to hire his company men.

 
Anarchy99 said:
craxie said:
Regardless, it's poor form to go for an interview and then withdraw because 'the time wasn't right'

If the time wasn't right, don't waste everyone's time by interviewing.

Rule #1: Don't embarrass your boss.

McDaniels failed at this, and don't think other teams didn't notice. Next time around, teams are going to be much more reluctant to offer him a position.
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If people didn't see the issues when McDaniels was a head coach BEFORE, then they are plain blind and stupid. And if CLE begged and begged him for an interview (which it sounds like they did because they went to see him in NE and not vice versa), I would write it off as no harm, no foul. who knows, he could have said he really wasn't that enamored with being a head coach and they insisted on meeting with him.
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Pretty sure teams interviewing candidates from playoff bye week teams HAVE to go on the road to the candidate and have to do the interviews during a specified window.

 
Sweet Love said:
I'll also add, he could have withdrawn from consideration to save face, if he felt that his interview went extremely poor (and he would not be receiving anyway).
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I think in many senses regarding a HC interview, it's not just the team interviewing the candidate but the candidate interviewing the GM/execs. It's possible McDaniels doesn't like their vision of the team's future as anything else.

 
PD is saying that he withdrew when he was told he wasn't number 1 on the Browns' list. A much different spin than what is happening in this thread.

linky

 
I don't know why anyone would want to coach this team either. Too much career suicide potential.

 
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