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The Contrarian

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Willis against the Bears looks tough on paper, especially with all the Bears hype after last week. If you drafted him you did so to start him every week. But this week he plays perhaps the best D in the league. The passing game shouldn't be hard for Da Bears to shut down, which makes me think that they can key on the run - the strength of the Bills O.

What #3 RB would you put ahead of Willis for THIS WEEK?

 
Unless you have a lot of depth and a lot of reasons to sit a top player (I'm not sure how high I really rank Willis; others like him more) I think you have to play him.

Example: Thomas Jones vs. a good Seahawks defense. I sat him; it made sense. But he produced. McGahee could easily do the same thing. Are the Bears a great D? Yes. Doesn't mean a player can't have some value.

 
I happen to have Willis, R. Brown, Gore and J. Lewis on a team. I don't think I'll be sitting Willis as I don't like Lewis' matchup at all nor do I like Brown's. I think most who drafted Willis are likely to have 3 solid RB options given his ADP. Most will likely have better matchup options than me this week. So benching him is not a bad option.

 
I'm having the same debate

Chicago has allowed 80 yards on the ground per game, while playing Green Bay, Detroit, Minnesota and Seattle. I may be wrong, but with Alexander out, McGahee seems better than those other RBs. Ahman Green got 110.

If you have other equal options, I'd look somewhere else, but I'm probably starting him (flex) over Jennings (Rams), Evans, and Matt Jones. although Jennings is a close call.

ETA: sucks having LT against the Steelers and McGahee vs. Da Bears in the same week, along with Ward and Ben, this is going to be a rough week.

 
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I am doing both:

League 1 (start 2 RBs)

Foster & Chester Taylor

McGahee on bench.

League 2 (start 2)

McGahee and Jordan

CBrown and Barlow on bench

 
Bills starting RG Chris Villarial is out. Backup Duke Preston is not a quality replacement against a top DLine like the Bears.

I think the Bears are going to spend a lot of time in the Bills backfield. Keep McGahee on the bench.

IMHO.

 
The Contrarian said:
Willis against the Bears looks tough on paper, especially with all the Bears hype after last week. If you drafted him you did so to start him every week. But this week he plays perhaps the best D in the league. The passing game shouldn't be hard for Da Bears to shut down, which makes me think that they can key on the run - the strength of the Bills O.What #3 RB would you put ahead of Willis for THIS WEEK?
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Try having Rudi on a bye, Fast Willie against the Bolts D, Willis against Da Bears, and TBell against the Ravens. And I can start one to three RBs.....I'm thinking FWP and TBell for sure. FWP will be getting a load of work, and I'm not sold on the Ravens D yet, though I might be after this weekend. I am having the same thoughts on McGahee. He may sit for MuMu or Coles.
 
I can start 3 RB, I have McGahee, Tiki, Foster and Maroney.

McGahee is on my bench this week, and just in case nobody knows, I'm Willis' pimp.

 
The Future Champs said:
The Contrarian said:
Willis against the Bears looks tough on paper, especially with all the Bears hype after last week. If you drafted him you did so to start him every week. But this week he plays perhaps the best D in the league. The passing game shouldn't be hard for Da Bears to shut down, which makes me think that they can key on the run - the strength of the Bills O.What #3 RB would you put ahead of Willis for THIS WEEK?
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Try having Rudi on a bye, Fast Willie against the Bolts D, Willis against Da Bears, and TBell against the Ravens. And I can start one to three RBs.....I'm thinking FWP and TBell for sure. FWP will be getting a load of work, and I'm not sold on the Ravens D yet, though I might be after this weekend. I am having the same thoughts on McGahee. He may sit for MuMu or Coles.
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Why TBell for sure vs. Baltimore over McGahee vs. Chicago? Balt is #1 vs. the run, giving up only 2.6 ypc, while Chi is #7, largely because they've had big leads and teams have had to abandon the run. Chi is # 19 in ypc against, at 4.0.I'm planning on starting McGahee over TBell.
 
After playing Hass @ CHI last week (over Kitna :bag: ) and losing my game mainly b/c of that performance, I'll stay away from just about anyone vs. da bears.

I've got Portis, Willis, Maroney, Norwood, Jacobs, and Leon Wash.

Maroney vs. MIA will get the nod. Not even a second thought.

If SEA can't find the endzone - after torching the Giants for 6 tds the week before - I'm guessing BUF will struggle early and often to cross mid field.

CHI 30 - BUF 6

 
Glad there is a thread on this as I am debating this all week.

Have Willis in 2 leagues:

League 1 - Willis or J Lewis - Jamal's matchup at Denver is not much better. Very tough to call

League 2 - Willis, R Brown, T Jones and Barlow - Leaning TJ and R Brown

good to read all the options people are faced with - will help with my decision

 
Bills O is all fed off of him IMO. They'll pound him even if to keep the Bears D honest.

I'm confident the Bears will win but .....I haven't seen the Bills every week but most weeks their D is tough. The Bills will "bring it" don't expect them to be pushovers for the Bears. They've got some toughness to their game too.

 
If this game was in Buffalo, I'd say start him. In Chicago, don't start him. The Bears give up nothing at home and there is no chance the Bills can pass on the Bears secondary. The Bears will stack the box and blow the Bills offensive line off the ball. Tommie Harris is going to be in the backfield all day.

If you have another resonably decent option, I'd use it here.

 
100 total yards and a TD is probably his max production this weekend. If you think your #3 can top that, start him instead.

 
On The Rocks said:
Bills starting RG Chris Villarial is out. Backup Duke Preston is not a quality replacement against a top DLine like the Bears. I think the Bears are going to spend a lot of time in the Bills backfield. Keep McGahee on the bench.IMHO.
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Vilariel sucks, anyone replacing him is better. Keep an eye on him when and if he comes back, he's horrible, you'll see.
 
Villarial IS awful. Preston will be fine in there. I think a lot of people are underestimating this Bills team. Willis is the center of the offense and he will see a lot of touches. I actually think he will have one of his better weeks so far. The Bears are actually giving up a pretty high yards per attempt (4.0) so the leagues leading rusher shouldn't be shut down.

 
Wilbur Wood said:
I am doing both:League 1 (start 2 RBs)Foster & Chester Taylor McGahee on bench.
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This is exactly what I'm doing. Foster and Chester for me as well.
 
Im benching McGahee for the ONLY time this year, because the BEars are HOT, playing at home, and Chris Villari (sp?) is out and they have some guy named DUKE in as guard.

Titans might be the worst team in the league. I can see the Colts grinding it out in the 3rd and 4th quarter... Addai seems to be getting more action then Rhodes, unless I am mistaken.

If the Colts werent playing the Titans with no DT's... I would probably go with the McGahee in hopes he punches one in... OR McCalister, but I don;t see the Bucs playing poor defense... and I don't trust the Saints.

AS I have found out, 3rd graders, AKA Sidewinder, seems to think its clever to put quotes in the signature of his posts about my predictions... Its impressive. :rolleyes:

 
Ahmad Rashad said:
The Future Champs said:
The Contrarian said:
Willis against the Bears looks tough on paper, especially with all the Bears hype after last week. If you drafted him you did so to start him every week. But this week he plays perhaps the best D in the league. The passing game shouldn't be hard for Da Bears to shut down, which makes me think that they can key on the run - the strength of the Bills O.What #3 RB would you put ahead of Willis for THIS WEEK?
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Try having Rudi on a bye, Fast Willie against the Bolts D, Willis against Da Bears, and TBell against the Ravens. And I can start one to three RBs.....I'm thinking FWP and TBell for sure. FWP will be getting a load of work, and I'm not sold on the Ravens D yet, though I might be after this weekend. I am having the same thoughts on McGahee. He may sit for MuMu or Coles.
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Why TBell for sure vs. Baltimore over McGahee vs. Chicago? Balt is #1 vs. the run, giving up only 2.6 ypc, while Chi is #7, largely because they've had big leads and teams have had to abandon the run. Chi is # 19 in ypc against, at 4.0.I'm planning on starting McGahee over TBell.
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Because, like I said, I'm not sold on the Ravens D as yet, and I have heard the same elsewhere. Though I'd love to have them on my fantasy team, they have scored a ton of fantasy points. Perhaps after this weekend I'll change my mind on their rush D, but so far the Ravens have racked up great rushing D stats against Oakland (#26 ranked rushing offense), Cleveland (#28), and Tampa Bay (#32), along with San Diego (#2). After four weeks those three teams aren't that low just because they have played the Ravens once. Cleveland only barely topped 100 yards rushing aginst Oakland (#21 rush D), and didn't top 100 against either NO (#20) or Cincy (#28 rush D). Tampa hasn't topped 100 against anyone, including Atlanta (#6 rush D) or Carolina (#25). Oakland did runup some big rushing numbers against Cleveland though, but not against the Bolts in Week 1 (they are one of the top rush Ds at this point). Of course those are weekly total yards and don't take other considerations into account, like throwing a lot to play catchup, etc. Putting it in ypc, which may be more appropriate, the Ravens opponents have done the following in each of their games in terms of rushing offense.Tampa- 2.0, 2.5, and 2.6 ypcCleveland- 3.8, 2.9, 2.0, and 3.0 ypcOakland- 4.4, 1.5, and 8.1 ypc.San Diego- 4.0, 6.5, and 3.7 ypc.So while each teams lowest ypc was against the Ravens, a couple of the Ravens opponents that they held to very low ypc's appear to be doing that fairly consistently, which will lead to an overall lower ypc for the Ravens, especially early in the season.I know it isn't as easy as just looking up teams stats and tossing them around like this, and no I haven't watched the Ravens yet this year. But like I said, I have heard similar from some other places. Yes it's early in the season, and yes, I may change my mind, but I'd like to see what the Ravens D do against some of the upper tier NFL rushing offenses before I bench a guy just because he's playing the Ravens. I guess that's one of the tricky parts about figuring out who to bench against certain teams relatively early in the season. At this point I'll go with the guy who will see the most touches and get the most opportunities. Denver? Good rushing offense. Good offensive line. At home. Coming off a bye week. I'll go with TBell. And I have this long-standing fun rule the I try to (but don't always) follow, "When in doubt, go with the guy playing on MNF".Though I still have to bench MuMu or Coles in favor of all three of my RBs this week. Heck, I don't know what I'm going to do. Noting your point about Chicago, maybe I'll just go with all three. Who knows, perhaps Coles shoulder really is hurt and my decision will be made for me.
 
The Future Champs said:
Ahmad Rashad said:
The Future Champs said:
The Contrarian said:
Willis against the Bears looks tough on paper, especially with all the Bears hype after last week. If you drafted him you did so to start him every week. But this week he plays perhaps the best D in the league. The passing game shouldn't be hard for Da Bears to shut down, which makes me think that they can key on the run - the strength of the Bills O.What #3 RB would you put ahead of Willis for THIS WEEK?
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Try having Rudi on a bye, Fast Willie against the Bolts D, Willis against Da Bears, and TBell against the Ravens. And I can start one to three RBs.....I'm thinking FWP and TBell for sure. FWP will be getting a load of work, and I'm not sold on the Ravens D yet, though I might be after this weekend. I am having the same thoughts on McGahee. He may sit for MuMu or Coles.
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Why TBell for sure vs. Baltimore over McGahee vs. Chicago? Balt is #1 vs. the run, giving up only 2.6 ypc, while Chi is #7, largely because they've had big leads and teams have had to abandon the run. Chi is # 19 in ypc against, at 4.0.I'm planning on starting McGahee over TBell.
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Because, like I said, I'm not sold on the Ravens D as yet, and I have heard the same elsewhere. Though I'd love to have them on my fantasy team, they have scored a ton of fantasy points. Perhaps after this weekend I'll change my mind on their rush D, but so far the Ravens have racked up great rushing D stats against Oakland (#26 ranked rushing offense), Cleveland (#28), and Tampa Bay (#32), along with San Diego (#2). After four weeks those three teams aren't that low just because they have played the Ravens once. Cleveland only barely topped 100 yards rushing aginst Oakland (#21 rush D), and didn't top 100 against either NO (#20) or Cincy (#28 rush D). Tampa hasn't topped 100 against anyone, including Atlanta (#6 rush D) or Carolina (#25). Oakland did runup some big rushing numbers against Cleveland though, but not against the Bolts in Week 1 (they are one of the top rush Ds at this point). Of course those are weekly total yards and don't take other considerations into account, like throwing a lot to play catchup, etc. Putting it in ypc, which may be more appropriate, the Ravens opponents have done the following in each of their games in terms of rushing offense.Tampa- 2.0, 2.5, and 2.6 ypcCleveland- 3.8, 2.9, 2.0, and 3.0 ypcOakland- 4.4, 1.5, and 8.1 ypc.San Diego- 4.0, 6.5, and 3.7 ypc.So while each teams lowest ypc was against the Ravens, a couple of the Ravens opponents that they held to very low ypc's appear to be doing that fairly consistently, which will lead to an overall lower ypc for the Ravens, especially early in the season.I know it isn't as easy as just looking up teams stats and tossing them around like this, and no I haven't watched the Ravens yet this year. But like I said, I have heard similar from some other places. Yes it's early in the season, and yes, I may change my mind, but I'd like to see what the Ravens D do against some of the upper tier NFL rushing offenses before I bench a guy just because he's playing the Ravens. I guess that's one of the tricky parts about figuring out who to bench against certain teams relatively early in the season. At this point I'll go with the guy who will see the most touches and get the most opportunities. Denver? Good rushing offense. Good offensive line. At home. Coming off a bye week. I'll go with TBell. And I have this long-standing fun rule the I try to (but don't always) follow, "When in doubt, go with the guy playing on MNF".Though I still have to bench MuMu or Coles in favor of all three of my RBs this week. Heck, I don't know what I'm going to do. Noting your point about Chicago, maybe I'll just go with all three. Who knows, perhaps Coles shoulder really is hurt and my decision will be made for me.
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Thanks for the detailed reply. I feel the same about Chicago's run defense as you do about Baltimore's. Chicago let a gimpy Ahman Green run for over 100 yards against them, and last week, Alexander was out for Seattle.For me, it comes down to which one I'd rather start regardless of the defense, and right now that's McGahee. I think he's more likely to get catches and TD's this week (6 catches and 1 TD so far and Losman playing much better recently, vs. 4 and 0 for Bell), though he may get neither.
 
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Willis McGahee (as well as Peyton Manning, Ronnie Brown, and Roy Williams) will be in my starting lineup every week, regardless of the matchup.

 
Right now I have Chester and LT pencilled in, with McGahee and Green riding the pines. Might switch McGahee and Chester, though. I put in Chester for McGahee last week and lost because of it, so I'm a little nervous about doing it again.

 
I also have T Bell, McGahee and Rhodes. If there was ever a week to start Rhodes, I guess this would be it. Not sure I can bench either of the other guys though.

 
SillyWillyJimmy said:
If this game was in Buffalo, I'd say start him. In Chicago, don't start him. The Bears give up nothing at home and there is no chance the Bills can pass on the Bears secondary. The Bears will stack the box and blow the Bills offensive line off the ball. Tommie Harris is going to be in the backfield all day. If you have another resonably decent option, I'd use it here.
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:goodposting: :goodposting: They could play nickel the whole game and stop the run. not a good matchup at all.
 
Well, my other options aren't so good. I've got Gado, Drew, and Henry, I'm sticking with McGahee this week even though the match up is terrible.

 
:wall:

Benched McGahee correctly... started the WRONG guy. Addai vs. the 30th ranked rush defense, and benched McCalister who OWNED TAmpa yesterday.

Still won with the iggles INT, but I was not happy with Indy's performance, they stunk.

 
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