McNabb isn't very bright (1 Viewer)

[EaglesNest]

I also don't want to hear about how McNabb not knowing the rule didn't affect anything since he was just running Reid's plays anyway. There was no sense of urgency out there at all by McNabb. The Eagles even got called for a delay of game penalty in overtime! If he had known that the game could end in a tie, perhaps he would have had a little more urgency and conserved quite a bit of time.

There almost never seems to be a sense of urgency with McNabb...unfortunately.I agree with you. As a quarterback...how much time is left in a game definitely effects what kind of passes you throw...or at least it should. For example, If time is running out, you are more likely to look to get the ball out to the guy that is 15, 20 yards rather than a dump off or short TE pass. It definitely effects the mindset of the quarterback.

 

[ELI2TYREE]

Some of the comments in this thread are exactly why some people hate to post in the Shark Pool anymore.Believe it or not, people are entitled to opinions.Mine is that there are players that don't know every single rule in the league, and that the coaches' job is to remind them of rarely used rules so that the player can perform better and make intelligent decisions.As for not knowing something that happens once every 5 years or so, what about the rule that a kick returner can step out of bounds and then reach in bounds for a kickoff, thereby drawing a penalty and getting the ball on the 40? What about a fair catch of a kick followed by a free kick for a field goal?How many 10-year vets know those rules?

players making millions ... don;t you think they'd make them read the rule book of the business that employs them? nah?figures.dumb jocks.

NO. Look at our financial institutes that are in shambles. Most of the people in charge have more degrees than they know what to do with and they simply didnt know the rules or were to ignorant to abide by them. Get off your high horse and zip your obnoxious mouth.

f you - now you are just making crap up, blaming the economy on stupidity? please. lots of people saw it coming, but that is a whole different subject. ASccept it - the guy is a #######, ignorant of the rules of the game he is played millions to play. what a maroooooooon.

im not making up anything. You apparently don't know jack about te economy our our country's financial health. I won't even argue with you about it because you are so ignorant.Do you know anything about credit default swaps? Don't answer because I know you dont. And neither do half of the executives that allowed the traders to run amuck with these types of risky bets. Why do you think it is taking companies like pricewater and blackrock MONTHS to tear apart a companies balance sheet? It's because they have no idea the value or if these instruments are worth anything at all.Point is, nobody knows everything about their industry.

again - changing the subject. this is a basic (i.e., BASIC) football rule that any moron, even McNabb should have known. Get off your high horse MR. EconomicPants and see the light and stop defending idiocy and ignorance in this nation.on edit: picking credit default swaps is like asking me if I know anything about biomedical engineering in regards to prosthetics for the ######.i mean come on. This guy is a quarterback, playing a game, with a rule book no bigger than a few hundred pages. Apples to oranges, ya think?he is a qb in the NFL, and its his JOB to know that in overtime he needs to be doing everything he can to win the game BEFORE the CLOCK EXPIRES.

 

[Blood Hound]

No question McNabb should have known the rule. But the tool factor from some posters here is reaching monumental proportions.

Just curious, how well does McNabb know the Eagles playbook? Does he call many audibles? I honestly don't know, but I would like to know what his reputation is.

 

[B-Deep]

As a general rule, if my mother in law knows a rule I would expect an NFL player to

 

[B-Deep]

As a general rule, if my mother in law knows a rule I would expect an NFL player to

o be clearshe at some point did not know the rule, so she askedhas mcnabb never played in an OT game and thought to ask "what happens if no one scores?"did not one person on the sideline, yes including coaches, on the las drive say "get this or we tie"Did he think the eagles keep the ball? there was another coin flip? whoever kicked the first time received this time? Assuming he thought there was another OT, wouldn't the mechanics of it be of concern to him?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I'm willing to be the bigger man here and say I am wrong to single you out like this and we can just move on.

-JP

Ok, poor choice of words.Sorry. Letting it go now.

 

[nashua55]

No question McNabb should have known the rule. But the tool factor from some posters here is reaching monumental proportions.Just curious, how well does McNabb know the Eagles playbook? Does he call many audibles? I honestly don't know, but I would like to know what his reputation is.

I live in the philly area and watch all the eagles games. Let me say I have nothing against Mcnabb, but after 10 years in the league it still seems he has very litttle input on the eagles offensive plays. Audibles? Are you kidding me, the eagles waste more timeouts because Reid is too slow to get the play in. I really dont think Ried gives Mcnabb much room to call his own plays if any, even in a 2 minute situation. After all these years you would thing Mcnabb would be more like Peyton Manning in how he has control over the offense. Mcnabb has been in the west coast offense forever you would think he would have more free reign. Reid is way to overprotective of Mcnabb.

 

[thehornet]

Some of the comments in this thread are exactly why some people hate to post in the Shark Pool anymore.

Believe it or not, people are entitled to opinions.

Mine is that there are players that don't know every single rule in the league, and that the coaches' job is to remind them of rarely used rules so that the player can perform better and make intelligent decisions.

As for not knowing something that happens once every 5 years or so, what about the rule that a kick returner can step out of bounds and then reach in bounds for a kickoff, thereby drawing a penalty and getting the ball on the 40?

What about a fair catch of a kick followed by a free kick for a field goal?

How many 10-year vets know those rules?

players making millions ... don;t you think they'd make them read the rule book of the business that employs them? nah?figures.

dumb jocks.

NO. Look at our financial institutes that are in shambles. Most of the people in charge have more degrees than they know what to do with and they simply didnt know the rules or were to ignorant to abide by them. Get off your high horse and zip your obnoxious mouth.

f you - now you are just making crap up, blaming the economy on stupidity? please. lots of people saw it coming, but that is a whole different subject. ASccept it - the guy is a #######, ignorant of the rules of the game he is played millions to play. what a maroooooooon.

im not making up anything. You apparently don't know jack about te economy our our country's financial health. I won't even argue with you about it because you are so ignorant.Do you know anything about credit default swaps? Don't answer because I know you dont. And neither do half of the executives that allowed the traders to run amuck with these types of risky bets. Why do you think it is taking companies like pricewater and blackrock MONTHS to tear apart a companies balance sheet? It's because they have no idea the value or if these instruments are worth anything at all.

Point is, nobody knows everything about their industry.

Is this playing nice in the Shark Pool?

no its not. you are right. my bad. but the guy said f you above. not cool.I was just trying to show that even really smart people dont knwo everything about their jobs and make mistakes.

Should McNabb have known the rule. Yes, but cmon this is silly.

 

[millertyme1]

So much negativity here about what McNabb didn't know.

Things he DOES know:

--Me say hut hut hike. Big squatting guy in front of me gives me ball between his legs.

--Filladelfia fans boo me on draft day. Hurt me feelings.

--Me eat Chunky soup before game.

--Me play in same town as AI.

 

[ELI2TYREE]

Some of the comments in this thread are exactly why some people hate to post in the Shark Pool anymore.

Believe it or not, people are entitled to opinions.

Mine is that there are players that don't know every single rule in the league, and that the coaches' job is to remind them of rarely used rules so that the player can perform better and make intelligent decisions.

As for not knowing something that happens once every 5 years or so, what about the rule that a kick returner can step out of bounds and then reach in bounds for a kickoff, thereby drawing a penalty and getting the ball on the 40?

What about a fair catch of a kick followed by a free kick for a field goal?

How many 10-year vets know those rules?

players making millions ... don;t you think they'd make them read the rule book of the business that employs them? nah?figures.

dumb jocks.

NO. Look at our financial institutes that are in shambles. Most of the people in charge have more degrees than they know what to do with and they simply didnt know the rules or were to ignorant to abide by them. Get off your high horse and zip your obnoxious mouth.

f you - now you are just making crap up, blaming the economy on stupidity? please. lots of people saw it coming, but that is a whole different subject. ASccept it - the guy is a #######, ignorant of the rules of the game he is played millions to play. what a maroooooooon.

im not making up anything. You apparently don't know jack about te economy our our country's financial health. I won't even argue with you about it because you are so ignorant.Do you know anything about credit default swaps? Don't answer because I know you dont. And neither do half of the executives that allowed the traders to run amuck with these types of risky bets. Why do you think it is taking companies like pricewater and blackrock MONTHS to tear apart a companies balance sheet? It's because they have no idea the value or if these instruments are worth anything at all.

Point is, nobody knows everything about their industry.

Is this playing nice in the Shark Pool?

no its not. you are right. my bad. but the guy said f you above. not cool.I was just trying to show that even really smart people dont knwo everything about their jobs and make mistakes.

Should McNabb have known the rule. Yes, but cmon this is silly.

i said f you and justifiably so - because you said "get off your high horse and zip your obnoxious mouth." For no apparent reason other than to insult me, degrade my opinion and refute my argument without basis in fact.now, which statement is more "not cool?"

 

[Dr. J]

No question McNabb should have known the rule. But the tool factor from some posters here is reaching monumental proportions.

Just curious, how well does McNabb know the Eagles playbook? Does he call many audibles? I honestly don't know, but I would like to know what his reputation is.

McNabb's always brought out the excellence in those that don't like him. He should have known the rule and Reid should coach him to be better in urgent situations. As much of a McNabb fan as I've been, I'm looking forward to seeing McNabb play in a different situation. Whether he gets traded, or Reid gets replaced, he needs an opportunity to start fresh. I believe Reid to be a big part of McNabb's problems with the unbalanced and uninspired play calling. It doesn't work anymore and I'm beginning to hate this team. I'll still root for them, but right now they seem to be doing everything wrong. I do enjoy the defense, though (except when they play the Giants).

 

[Wildman]

Ignorant? Yes. Dumb? No. Scary a QB with this much experience didn't know you could tie in the regular season? A bit. Surprised about his reaction after thinking about how few ties there have been since 1974? Nope.

He is dumb. There is no other word to describe this. How can you not possibly know that if at the end of OT if you are tied, it is a tie? Come on man. The guy is a box of rocks. BTW, i really like Mcnabb, but this is not a smart person.

Actually there are a lot of words to describe this situation and dumb is not one of them: ignorantmisinformedconfusedunawareuneducatednescientunletteredunlearnedunknowledgeableuninformedunwittingNo offense, but your argument that McNabb is dumb for his ignorance is ignorant. I wouldn't call you dumb for not knowing the difference between stupidity and ignorance. You were just ignorant of the difference in the meaning. The fact that McNabb was unaware of the rule is crazy and shocking, but considering Ben Roethlisberger was quoted in an ESPN segment last week that he speculated half the guys in the league were probably unaware of this rule supports my point. College football doesn't have the same OT rules and most of these guys don't have a ton of time to sit and watch NFL games all day long while they are working on the techniques of the game, their conditioning, and watching film their coaching staff provides. Considering the lack of games where there have been ties, it's plausible for a quarterback like McNabb to be unaware. I'd also say the fact he has lasted this long in Philly with the reactions from the fans, Limbaugh, and T.O. says a lot about his smarts and maturity - especially when it comes to dealing with the media. I also think the Arizona game spoke for itself.

 

[TommyGilmore]

Don't hate Donovan. He's not the only player drawing a blank.

Donovan McNabb is getting $6.3M this year to play in the NFL, and yet was clueless that a regular-season game can end in a tie after one overtime. Then he added, "I'd hate to see what happens in the Super Bowl. You'd have to settle with a tie."

(Sound of America slapping its forehead.)

Oy. It'd be like a pro golfer going, "You mean I have to get it all the way into the stupid hole?" So I devised a little unscientific quiz to see if it's just Duhnovan who's brain-dead about his line of work, or if other players are rules-challenged too. Cover your eyes. It's not pretty.

Q: What does happen in the playoffs if the game is tied after the first overtime?

* Sam Madison, CB, Giants: "Are they gonna do a coin toss? The rule needs to be changed."

* Shaun O'Hara, C, Giants: "Yeah, we don't want the Super Bowl decided by a coin flip."

Correct answer: Play continues until one team scores.

Q: How many points do you get for returning a blocked PAT all the way?

* Calvin Pace, LB, Jets: "Two? Isn't that the rule in college?"

* Kerry Rhodes, S, Jets: "Wait, you're trying to trick me. It's either two or none. I say none."

* Nick Mangold, C, Jets: "Seven? I have no idea."

* Dustin Keller, TE, Jets: "I think it's two."

* Madison: "Two."

Correct answer: Zero.

Q: If a punt is in the air while the game clock expires and the receiver signals and makes a fair catch, is the game over?

* Danny Clark, LB, Giants: "Yes."

* Madison: "Yes."

* Damon Huard, QB, Chiefs: "If the punter touched it, then the game is over."

* Ray Rice, RB, Ravens: "Yes."

* Pace: "Yes. It's an untimed play, isn't it?"

Correct answer: No, the receiving team can try a fair-catch kick.

Q: What is a fair-catch kick?

* Brendon Ayanbadejo, LB, Ravens: "The ball is put on the tee, or maybe there's a holder holding it, but there's nobody covering."

* Jarret Johnson, LB, Ravens: "You kick from the 50, off the tee. You can cover it. We've gone over it in meetings, but you don't practice it because it's the kicker kicking off a tee."

Correct answer: A fair-catch kick is a field goal attempt following a fair catch. It can be a placekick or dropkick, but no tee may be used. It cannot be defensed.

Q: What is the penalty for running into the kicker on a quick kick?

* Clark: "Personal foul."

* Jonathan Goff, LB, Giants: "Same as on a normal punt."

* O'Hara: "Personal foul."

* Ayanbadejo: "Roughing the kicker? Automatic first down? No, wait! If he's showing that he's running the ball, then you can hit him just like anybody else."

* Johnson: "Fifteen yards and a first down."

* Chester Pitts, G, Texans: "It's a 15-yard penalty. If you annihilate him, I guarantee someone will throw a flag."

* Eric Barton, LB, Jets: "No idea."

* Pace: "There isn't a penalty. I just took a wild guess on that one."

Correct answer: No penalty.

Q: What's the maximum number of challenges a coach can make in a game if he's always right?

* Clark: "As many as he wants."

* Goff: "Two per half."

* O'Hara: "Four."

* Barton: "If he's right, why stop him?"

* Pace: "Six."

* Mangold: "I don't know. There goes my coaching gig."

* Rhodes: "Three. You're not going to get me."

Correct answer: Three.

Q: When can the first-string QB reenter the game if the third-string quarterback is inserted before the fourth quarter?

* Huard: "After the fourth quarter, the first-string quarterback can come in."

* Johnson: "You have to declare who your first- and second-string quarterbacks are?"

* Pitts: "They're interchangeable. If someone wanted to wake up and start the third quarterback and then put in the first quarterback on the next series, they could."

Correct answer: Never. If the third quarterback is inserted before the fourth quarter, a team's first two quarterbacks cannot be used in the game at any position.

Q: Can the kicking team recover its own blocked punt and advance?

* Johnson: "No, it's dead."

* Barton: "I don't think you can advance a blocked punt."

* Mangold: "Don't know, great question."

Correct answer: Yes, if the kick is caught or received behind the line of scrimmage.

Q: Are most of these players very much hoping their coaches don't read this?

Correct answer: Yes.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?se...&id=3737653

I thought the rule on Emergency Quarterbacks was recently changed??

 

[az_prof]

People are making much more of this than it warrants. Should he have known? Yes. But there are lots of rules in the NFL and the Coaches are ultimately responsibile for making sure Players know them. Want to blame someone? Blame Reid.

 

[az_prof]

People are making much more of this than it warrants. Should he have known? Yes. But there are lots of rules in the NFL and the Coaches are ultimately responsibile for making sure Players know them. Want to blame someone? Blame Reid.

 

[heidbrink]

Isn't the fact that the game CAN end in a tie explained to the three team captains when the coin is fliped for over time? I'm thinking the officials explain the overtime rules (goes one quarter of play or until the first team scores).

Aside: Does anybody remember when Flutie pulled off the drop kick? Now that's a demonstration of a QB with an in-depth knowledge of the book.

 

[Raider Nation]

Mcnabb was f'n terrible in this game and cost me my suicide poll. F U Mcnabb! And Reid is by far the worst coach in the NFL as well.

Reid is not CLOSE to being the worst coach in the NFL. Philly fans who echo this sentiment are so spoiled.I'll trade you 75 Tom Cable's for one Andy Reid right this instant.

I don't like to make a habit of this, but........

 

[crewmember]

Mcnabb was f'n terrible in this game and cost me my suicide poll. F U Mcnabb! And Reid is by far the worst coach in the NFL as well.

Reid is not CLOSE to being the worst coach in the NFL. Philly fans who echo this sentiment are so spoiled.I'll trade you 75 Tom Cable's for one Andy Reid right this instant.

I don't like to make a habit of this, but........

You can bump this all you want but they will never learn. Either they are really stupid, miserable people who love to hate, or just don't want to admit their wrong. The last one is funny, because Philly media guys still try to act like Terry Francono is the dumbest man to ever live. It's funny to watch them squirm when the topic comes up when Boston wins a world series.