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McNabb vs Romo vs Palmer vs Cutler vs Schaub (1 Viewer)

whodeywhodey

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I ran into this situation in a recent draft and it really made me realize that I have McNabb ranked in a tier above all the other choices here.

I think McNabb is poised to post some of his best numbers ever and might very well be an NFL and fantasy QB MVP based on where you can get him right now compared to Manning Rodgers and the others.

I have them ranked as McNabb>>Romo>Palmer>>Schaub>>>>Cutler

 
From that bunch of QB's he's clearly the safest one in my eyes. I've seen people ranking Shaub as 6-10 but I don't see how you can do that. Sure the guys got Owen Daniels and Andre Johnson to throw to but what has he done in the past to rank him above guys like Romo and McNabb who's done it for years? Romo's got to show me he can be productive without TO before I'd take him. Palmers got to stay healthy for once. And who's Cutler throwing to now? Between those three the safest pick is McNabb but might not be the most productive from that group at the end of the year.

 
I ran into this situation in a recent draft and it really made me realize that I have McNabb ranked in a tier above all the other choices here.I think McNabb is poised to post some of his best numbers ever and might very well be an NFL and fantasy QB MVP based on where you can get him right now compared to Manning Rodgers and the others.I have them ranked as McNabb>>Romo>Palmer>>Schaub>>>>Cutler
Schaub > McNabb >> Palmer >>>>> Romo >>> Cutler
 
I would rank them

McNabb

Romo

Schaub/Palmer/Cutler

McNabb is the safest pick. I'm not particularly high or low on Romo, I think he'll be solid even without TO. If you're the gambling type I think Schaub and Palmer could have huge years IF they stay healthy. I think Cutler is a stud but I don't know how well he's going to gel with the Bears WRs yet.

I wouldn't be disappointed to have any of them as my #1 QB if I decided to pick them up in the later rounds to stock up on quality RB/WR first.

 
1. McNabb

2. Cutler

3. Schaub

4. Palmer

5. Romo

It's not that I think Romo is going to be awful, I think any of this group has legit top 5 potential.

 
I have them ranked this way:

McNabb/Schaub

Cutler/Romo

Palmer

Personally, I think you're splitting hairs when trying to compare McNasty vs. Schaub or Cutler vs. Romo. I'm just going to target the qb you can get later, which usually means Schaub over McNasty and Cutler over Romo.

I've got Palmer ranked behind all 4, as his oline has serious questions and he's already injured.

 
I'm somewhat surprised by the lack of love for Carson Palmer. If we can agree that from the start, Palmer simply wasn't ever healthy...then the 3 years prior to 2008, the guy was a consistent 4000 yard/28 TD producer.

His WR's seem focused and talented. With Chris Henry seemingly on the straight and narrow, this might be the best bunch Palmer has had. Coupled with a sketchy running game, and Palmer could be throwing it a ton this year.

Maybe I'm missing something, but Palmer looks like an EXTREME value play this season. I like Schaub as well, but he's become so en vogue that I think his value has been drained out.

 
Schaub scares me a little bit. Last year he was a sexy later round pick as well and for me he underperformed.

The fact is that he still has not spent an entire year as a starting QB. He has a lot more injury risks than McNabb and Romo imo but if you can get him 2-3 rounds later he *might* be worth it.

 
I'm somewhat surprised by the lack of love for Carson Palmer. If we can agree that from the start, Palmer simply wasn't ever healthy...then the 3 years prior to 2008, the guy was a consistent 4000 yard/28 TD producer.His WR's seem focused and talented. With Chris Henry seemingly on the straight and narrow, this might be the best bunch Palmer has had. Coupled with a sketchy running game, and Palmer could be throwing it a ton this year.Maybe I'm missing something, but Palmer looks like an EXTREME value play this season. I like Schaub as well, but he's become so en vogue that I think his value has been drained out.
shhhhhhhhhh!
 
In every single relevant Qb statistic as a starter, Matt Schaub has been top 5, and top 3 in many.

If you think you have the magical crystal ball of injury know it allness, don't pick him. If you simply draft based on situation, talent, and evidence, then you think he'll be top 5 and you take him.

 
I'm somewhat surprised by the lack of love for Carson Palmer. If we can agree that from the start, Palmer simply wasn't ever healthy...then the 3 years prior to 2008, the guy was a consistent 4000 yard/28 TD producer.His WR's seem focused and talented. With Chris Henry seemingly on the straight and narrow, this might be the best bunch Palmer has had. Coupled with a sketchy running game, and Palmer could be throwing it a ton this year.Maybe I'm missing something, but Palmer looks like an EXTREME value play this season. I like Schaub as well, but he's become so en vogue that I think his value has been drained out.
shhhhhhhhhh!
that high ankle sprain is really concerning me though
 
Mcnabb- in a lot of shootouts this year and throwing a ton

Schaub- as long as he stays healthy he will be a stud

Romo- he will have less attempts this season

Palmer- he will be throwing a lot

Cutler- that offense will be a close to the vest offense with Olsen the main target. Hester number #1 ?

 
I ran into this situation in a recent draft and it really made me realize that I have McNabb ranked in a tier above all the other choices here.I think McNabb is poised to post some of his best numbers ever and might very well be an NFL and fantasy QB MVP based on where you can get him right now compared to Manning Rodgers and the others.I have them ranked as McNabb>>Romo>Palmer>>Schaub>>>>Cutler
Schaub > McNabb >> Palmer >>>>> Romo >>> Cutler
This is how i see it.
 
Are these guys all the same this year?
If you're seriously asking if these players, or any two players, are "the same," you simply haven't done enough preparation yet.
 
McNabb - D may not be as good, lots of decent receivers, pass oriented offense big time, always a bit of a injury risk but still like him

Romo - has something to prove and less distractions

Schaub - the lack of passing TDs aggravate the snot out of me ...what's going to change here to generate more TDS? Can't think of any.

Palmer - like him, but the high ankly sprain scares me a ton

Cutler - really liked him since college but think its going to take a couple of years to morph CHI into more of a passing offense

 
Where does everyone rank Ryan in regards to these guys? I really think Ryan is going to take a big step forward this year and approach top-5 final ranking. I like him as much or better than those listed here other than McNabb.

 
I ran into this situation in a recent draft and it really made me realize that I have McNabb ranked in a tier above all the other choices here.I think McNabb is poised to post some of his best numbers ever and might very well be an NFL and fantasy QB MVP based on where you can get him right now compared to Manning Rodgers and the others.I have them ranked as McNabb>>Romo>Palmer>>Schaub>>>>Cutler
I think that's reasonable. Would probably give Schaub the edge over Palmer and I think they're just about all the same tier except Cutler.
 
Schaub - the lack of passing TDs aggravate the snot out of me ...what's going to change here to generate more TDS? Can't think of any.
Didn't he average 1.5 TDs per games played? I concede the injury issue, but not the performance issue. Schaub(226)+Rosenfels(85) would have netted you 311 points last year, or QB8. Since we all can agree that Schaub>>>>>>>>>>Sage, let's assume that Schaub's production would have been merely 10% better than Sage's during the games Sage played. That would be 226 + (85*1.1) = 319.5, or QB6I think the WR corps are also worth mentioning:HOU>CIN>DAL>PHI>CHI
 
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I'm somewhat surprised by the lack of love for Carson Palmer. If we can agree that from the start, Palmer simply wasn't ever healthy...then the 3 years prior to 2008, the guy was a consistent 4000 yard/28 TD producer.His WR's seem focused and talented. With Chris Henry seemingly on the straight and narrow, this might be the best bunch Palmer has had. Coupled with a sketchy running game, and Palmer could be throwing it a ton this year.Maybe I'm missing something, but Palmer looks like an EXTREME value play this season. I like Schaub as well, but he's become so en vogue that I think his value has been drained out.
I'm on this wagon. Cincy's defense is going to be terrible, so they're going to be winging it a LOT. It's the same recipe for the 4000 yard seasons in 06 (30th in defense) and 07 (27th in defense).This is basically the reason Schaub was so good last year, he's a good passer in a good situation, but even Manning are winding it down by the fourth quarter. Schaub and Palmer will be chucking it nonstop in the fourth quarter against prevent defenses. I can't tell you how many garbage time scores got put on the board for me by AJ and Slaton last year. Not a great recipe for real football, but fantasy GOLD.Ankle sprains are a big problem for speed guys, but its not really relevant to Palmer, who isn't the least bit mobile to begin with. The biggest question in Cincy is probably not even relevant to any of the passing game pieces. It's the O-line. They're terrible, and Andre Smith is in no hurry to help. But even cruddy O-lines can still rack it up against a prevent defense.
 
I think McNabb is poised to post some of his best numbers ever and might very well be an NFL and fantasy QB MVP based on where you can get him right now compared to Manning Rodgers and the others.
Weren't there a lot of injuries recently on the Eagles offensive line? That's the only drawback I can see with McNabb this year.
 
Romo,Schaub,McNabb,Cutler,Palmer

All great options and separated by a sliver.

 
Have I ended up in an alternate universe or something? McNabb being touted as a safe pick? WTF?! You guys do remember that he hasn't finished 3 of the last 5 years right?

And yeah, there are some serious problems on that line and it looks like the projected five starters aren't gonna be playing together anytime soon.

Shaub, Romo, Ryan, Palmer, McNabb, Cutler for me.

 
Instinctive said:
In every single relevant Qb statistic as a starter, Matt Schaub has been top 5, and top 3 in many.If you think you have the magical crystal ball of injury know it allness, don't pick him. If you simply draft based on situation, talent, and evidence, then you think he'll be top 5 and you take him.
Top five out of what? This list of five?
 
McNabb - Scores a ton whenever he plays, and his receivers are the best he's had outside the Owens years. Only scary thing is injury.

Romo - I don't think he completely falls off, but I see a substantial drop. Still, he was one of the best QBs recently, so he could drop off pretty far and still be good.

Palmer - Best WR trio of the bunch. Arguably the most talented of the bunch as well. Unfortunately, he's already hurt, the Bengals have crazy things happen to them, and you pretty much have to draft an early backup for him.

Schaub - Not that great, but at least he has a stud WR to throw to and a couple other decent targets

Cutler - New QB on a cold weather team with no receivers that likes to rush the ball and has never had imagination on offense, but will be asked to protect leads as their defense wins it for them. He wasn't in the upper echelong until he had Marshall and Royal and a horrific D and a weak running game.

 
Instinctive said:
In every single relevant Qb statistic as a starter, Matt Schaub has been top 5, and top 3 in many.

If you think you have the magical crystal ball of injury know it allness, don't pick him. If you simply draft based on situation, talent, and evidence, then you think he'll be top 5 and you take him.
Top five out of what? This list of five?
He means in points per game.If you believe in a genetic predisposition to any type of injury (most do) then you stay away.

If you believe a Jared Allen

and a Fat Albert landing on top of you late are enough to injure most quarterbacks, then you might think Schaub's going to flirt with top 5 this year.Personally I don't label someone injury prone unless they've got a recurring or nagging injury, or play a style of game that increases their chances of getting hurt.

Frank Gore was injury prone until he wasn't.

 
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Schaub is a good QB in a great situation, but he holds the ball too long and doesn't have the same pocket awareness of Romo or some of the other guys. That can lead to a higher probability of injury right there.

 
Not to hijack, but I believe Warner belongs in this tier as well and can be added to this list. With some of his question marks (hip, age, etc.) I put them:

McNabb

Warner

Romo

Shaub

Cutler/Palmer

Any takers?

 
TheDirtyWord said:
I'm somewhat surprised by the lack of love for Carson Palmer. If we can agree that from the start, Palmer simply wasn't ever healthy...then the 3 years prior to 2008, the guy was a consistent 4000 yard/28 TD producer.His WR's seem focused and talented. With Chris Henry seemingly on the straight and narrow, this might be the best bunch Palmer has had. Coupled with a sketchy running game, and Palmer could be throwing it a ton this year.Maybe I'm missing something, but Palmer looks like an EXTREME value play this season. I like Schaub as well, but he's become so en vogue that I think his value has been drained out.
:unsure: I just picked up Palmer as the 12th Qb taken in the draft....with Henry looking good; Ocho looking like he is back and Coles being the possession WR that can replace Housh, I like Palmer a lot this year as a value pick for 4000 yards; 25+ TDs
 
Binky The Doormat said:
McNabb - D may not be as good, lots of decent receivers, pass oriented offense big time, always a bit of a injury risk but still like him Romo - has something to prove and less distractionsSchaub - the lack of passing TDs aggravate the snot out of me ...what's going to change here to generate more TDS? Can't think of any.Palmer - like him, but the high ankly sprain scares me a tonCutler - really liked him since college but think its going to take a couple of years to morph CHI into more of a passing offense
Palmer is already ready to play in next preseason game according to coach Lewis.
 
I ran into this situation in a recent draft and it really made me realize that I have McNabb ranked in a tier above all the other choices here.I think McNabb is poised to post some of his best numbers ever and might very well be an NFL and fantasy QB MVP based on where you can get him right now compared to Manning Rodgers and the others.I have them ranked as McNabb>>Romo>Palmer>>Schaub>>>>Cutler
I'm not that sold on McNabb and the Vick Experiment..just how many plays will Vick get, thus cutting in to McNabb';s playing time? 10/gm? thats 160 less plays that McNabb will be under center for..he's going to take a big hit in the stats this season..Shaub, if healthy, can put up big numbers, he's proven it already.Romo will always 'get his'Cutler *could* post better numbers than what he did in Denver ..I think he's going to be tossing more 50+ yard TDs to Hester than people give him credit for...because he's healthy and we know what he can do, I'd rank Cutler #1, a slight edge over Shaub..Cutler > Shaub > Romo> Palmer> McNabb
 
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In every single relevant Qb statistic as a starter, Matt Schaub has been top 5, and top 3 in many.If you think you have the magical crystal ball of injury know it allness, don't pick him. If you simply draft based on situation, talent, and evidence, then you think he'll be top 5 and you take him.
Top five out of what? This list of five?
It would appear as though i was wrong on this. He isn't merely top 5 at this point, he leads the league in TD passes and in passing yards...oh wait! That's better isn't it?
 

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