Megatron - Calvin Johnson (1 Viewer)

[salmonstud]

I recently traded for Calvin in one of my dynasty leagues. Where do you guys have him ranked in dynasty leagues after the Roy Williams trade in point per reception formats?

Johnson is one of the most gifted physical receivers in the league and unlike many WR's doesn't seem to be a character risk (Steve Smith, T.O., Chad Johnson, etc.). The Lions will not be good anytime soon and despite facing constant double coverage - Johnson will get plenty of fantasy production in garbage time. At age 23....I move him up over guys like Burress, etc. that might be better in the short-term but due to more years of production from the younger Calvin....makes Calvin better value from a dynasty perspective in leagues that allow you to keep players without restrictions.

The WR's that I have ranked above Megatron are:

Fitz

Marshall

Wayne

S.Smith

A.Johnson

Colston

I would appreciate any feedback you might have.

 

[Blackjacks]

I love Calvin but sooner or later he is going to need to get a qb to help him out. I would put him in the top ten right now in a dynasty draft but to take the next step he needs a little help.

 

[Interseptopus]

The question mark is that they will get a new GM, then that GM is more than likely to get a new coach. With this 1st round pick they will likely use one to draft a QB in this year's draft. That QB SHOULD sit for at least a year but the pressure is on that franchise to turn it around quickly, so he will probably start.

I see Calvin fulfilling his DET contract and then going elsewhere by the time that team has an okay QB.

With all those changes in management, learning a new system, gelling with a new QB, etc... I just don't see him cracking the top 10. He's a great WR2, but in the immediate future I don't know. I see him getting double teamed frequently in the next few years and jumping ship elsewhere once he is a free agent.

 

[salmonstud]

Right now I would say that Calvin Johnson is the face of the franchise. I think the Lions will do whatever they can do to retain him. I don't think it will matter very much where he plays - I think he has the skills to succeed in any environment.

 

[Our Gang]

Right now I would say that Calvin Johnson is the face of the franchise. I think the Lions will do whatever they can do to retain him. I don't think it will matter very much where he plays - I think he has the skills to succeed in any environment.

Sort of like Barry Sanders?

 

[FantasyTrader]

I think that's a good list to have above Calvin. Right now I'd lump him in with Burress and Braylon hovering somewhere around the top 10. He's still not a #1 WR for a championship roster but he's close.

 

[thehornet]

Jennings deserves to be ranked ahead of him and it's not even close. Also Boldin, Burress, R Moss and Braylon.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Jennings deserves to be ranked ahead of him and it's not even close. Also Boldin, Burress, R Moss and Braylon.

Completely forgot about Jennings. Absolutely - he's somewhere among those top 7. Moss and Burress I'll give you. Braylon's pushing it. Anquan? No way. Calvin has as much talent as Anquan in his left ---.

 

[thehornet]

Jennings deserves to be ranked ahead of him and it's not even close. Also Boldin, Burress, R Moss and Braylon.

Completely forgot about Jennings. Absolutely - he's somewhere among those top 7. Moss and Burress I'll give you. Braylon's pushing it. Anquan? No way. Calvin has as much talent as Anquan in his left ---.

Q always gets it done and his intangibles are off the chart. Bolding has certain things that cannot be taught and while it may not be the vertical ability that Calvin possesses it is important just the same, and it makes him an immense talent. Some of his stats are on astronomical paces. He must not be overlooked. Calvin is big, smooth, powerful and elegant out on the field, while Anquan is rugged and raw. This might make people hesitant to peg him as an elite, but make no mistake, he is.Edit to add: Also Steve Smith is above Calvin for me and very likely Roddy White. Calvin can and most likely will move up, but in my books, he still has a lot of work to do. Some he can do by himself, other stuff needs to be done by the Lions management.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Jennings deserves to be ranked ahead of him and it's not even close. Also Boldin, Burress, R Moss and Braylon.

Completely forgot about Jennings. Absolutely - he's somewhere among those top 7. Moss and Burress I'll give you. Braylon's pushing it. Anquan? No way. Calvin has as much talent as Anquan in his left ---.

Q always gets it done and his intangibles are off the chart. Bolding has certain things that cannot be taught and while it may not be the vertical ability that Calvin possesses it is important just the same, and it makes him an immense talent. Some of his stats are on astronomical paces. He must not be overlooked. Calvin is big, smooth, powerful and elegant out on the field, while Anquan is rugged and raw. This might make people hesitant to peg him as an elite, but make no mistake, he is.

Good points. I just wish I knew what Anquan Boldin looked like when not playing in the perfect situation without Warner throwing him the ball, Fitz on the other side and an extremely underrated O-Line. And then I look at Calvin's situation and it's world's apart - swap out Larry Fitzgerald for Shaun McDonald, Warner for Orlovsky and a downgrade on O-line and we're still talking about Calvin in the company of the above receivers! All I'm saying is if I was sitting there staring at both Anquan and Calvin with my 3rd dynasty pick, knowing things can never get better than this for the 28 yr old Boldin and can only get better than this for the 23 year old Johnson - like I said, no contest. I agree with you though - Boldin is a very underrated WR.

 

[thehornet]

Jennings deserves to be ranked ahead of him and it's not even close. Also Boldin, Burress, R Moss and Braylon.

Completely forgot about Jennings. Absolutely - he's somewhere among those top 7. Moss and Burress I'll give you. Braylon's pushing it. Anquan? No way. Calvin has as much talent as Anquan in his left ---.

Q always gets it done and his intangibles are off the chart. Bolding has certain things that cannot be taught and while it may not be the vertical ability that Calvin possesses it is important just the same, and it makes him an immense talent. Some of his stats are on astronomical paces. He must not be overlooked. Calvin is big, smooth, powerful and elegant out on the field, while Anquan is rugged and raw. This might make people hesitant to peg him as an elite, but make no mistake, he is.

Good points. I just wish I knew what Anquan Boldin looked like when not playing in the perfect situation without Warner throwing him the ball, Fitz on the other side and an extremely underrated O-Line. And then I look at Calvin's situation and it's world's apart - swap out Larry Fitzgerald for Shaun McDonald, Warner for Orlovsky and a downgrade on O-line and we're still talking about Calvin in the company of the above receivers! All I'm saying is if I was sitting there staring at both Anquan and Calvin with my 3rd dynasty pick, knowing things can never get better than this for the 28 yr old Boldin and can only get better than this for the 23 year old Johnson - like I said, no contest. I agree with you though - Boldin is a very underrated WR.

I hear that man. I feel as if i was picking at that 3rd dynasty pick I would probably go with Calvin too, knowing that while Boldin probably will outscore him, you only get 1 crack at a guy like Calvin. He is the type of guy that has the potential for a couple 17+ td seasons. It's that type of upside that would make it tough to to take a guy like Bolding over him in a dynasty draft. Good discussion.

 

[loose circuits]

They need to figure out that QB situation before Calvin can ever approach his full talent. Until then, he'll finish in the top 20 with top 5 upside every year. I own him and Roddy White in separate leagues and have to say I consider them about even. Braylon is right in there too

 

[Vicktimized]

I think Boldin' biggest year was his rookie season -- without Warner, Fitz, and in anything but an ideal situation.

 

[salmonstud]

Megatron looked pretty studly this Sunday without Roy or a supporting cast.

 

[Buckna]

I think you will see something similar to Andre Johnson's early years but with slightly better production since I think very few QB's are as bad as Carr was. There's no supporting cast, the Lions have consistently underperformed for decades no matter who was running the organization and even if they can get the front office and coach fixed, it's still going to take a few years for the team to improve.

Calvin will have the occasionally amazing game, coupled with the occasional dud.

 

[Dt's Mules]

Megatron looked pretty studly this Sunday without Roy or a supporting cast.

actually, no he didn't....his stats did, but he didn't

 

[W1cked]

Megatron looked pretty studly this Sunday without Roy or a supporting cast.

actually, no he didn't....his stats did, but he didn't

Hard to throw a pass to yourself playing WR. If he had 12 targets and two catches I can see where u can say that, but he made the most of his chances and that is all you can really ask for a WR.

 

[Dt's Mules]

Megatron looked pretty studly this Sunday without Roy or a supporting cast.

actually, no he didn't....his stats did, but he didn't

Hard to throw a pass to yourself playing WR. If he had 12 targets and two catches I can see where u can say that, but he made the most of his chances and that is all you can really ask for a WR.

fair enough...actually you made the "real" point I was trying to make.