Megyn Kelly (1 Viewer)

[Kool-Aid Larry]

hmmmm....apparently, they do their own fudgy the whale over there, too

 

[RaiderBones]

I agree with Megyn Kelly about Santa Claus. He has always been portrayed as a jolly fat white guy. Now the PC police want to come in and change it. I don't see why the PC police have to get their panites in a bunch over Santa being a jolly fat white dude. Its just silly and stupid. Santa doesn't discriminate who he delivers presents to so why do people care that he is white. Just a silly and stupid thing to get all PC about.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Wasn't Santa a Nordic creation? So...he would originally be white, right?

This part of the same show touches on that

Wow. Greece? I believed he was from a Nordic tradition all this time.

I sure hope he's not upset and still leaves me presents under the tree.

 

[Ghost Rider]

If you watch that clip, Monica Crowley came off much worse than Megyn Kelly did. Which is not shocking, as her opinions are generally awful. I enjoy The O'Reilly Factor for the most part, but I always forward through the segments with Crowley and Alan Colmes. As vanilla and softs as Colmes is, he somehow is far less annoying than Crowley.

 

[NutterButter]

Wasn't Santa a Nordic creation? So...he would originally be white, right?

This part of the same show touches on that

Wow. Greece? I believed he was from a Nordic tradition all this time.

I sure hope he's not upset and still leaves me presents under the tree.

Well, Turkey today so make sure you leave out some falafels.

 

[Jewell]

I agree with Megyn Kelly about Santa Claus. He has always been portrayed as a jolly fat white guy. Now the PC police want to come in and change it. I don't see why the PC police have to get their panites in a bunch over Santa being a jolly fat white dude. Its just silly and stupid. Santa doesn't discriminate who he delivers presents to so why do people care that he is white. Just a silly and stupid thing to get all PC about.

I agree with your sentiment, but the PC police don't really want to change Santa. In the end this is all a moot point because most non-white people don't have a problem with white Santa. One author, Aisha Harris, succeeded in getting her article recognized by taking a drastic position and getting a mainstream media response from Megyn Kelly. Kudos to Ms. Harris. That's what unknown

Authors should do to develop recognition.

Certainly there are others who feel like Harris, but, from my experience; they're a small minority.

Those determined to categorize Kelly's position as racist are unwilling to truly dissect Harris' argument.

Harris wrote an article saying that Santa Claus should no longer be a white man because a white Holiday figure confuses and does not represent non-white children. Why is the author's assertion that a white figure cannot possibly be looked up to by non-whites not racist?

If race doesn't matter, as that author and many supporting her will assuredly tell you when other race topics are discussed, then why is it so important that Centuries old Santa be changed from being white? If race is irrelevant, why can't non-white children look up to the white Santa figure, and what message is being sent to minority children to say that they can't possibly cherish and/or respect a white figure in a multiracial society without being confused? If a benevolent white figure allegedly causes that much confusion and/or animosity does that speak well of the potential longterm success or cohesion the multiracial societies becoming the norm in America and Europe?

There have also been numerous articles from black authors over the recent years discussing cultural approbation. These articles, also coming from a fringe perspective like Harris', suggest that white artists should not be lauded for performing black music or dance because they appropriated those customs from black culture. If cultural approbation is as negative as these authors suggest, then why is it suddenly a positive to not only appropriate but then completely alter a centuries old central holiday figure of European culture?

Once again, a moot point given there is no widespread support for Harris' position. To recap, though, Harris is the one perturbed over Santa's whiteness while Kelly is giving the historical background of why Santa is a white figure and suggesting there isn't good reason to alter a centuries old figure. Yet, somehow, Kelly has greater race issues than Harris? Go figure.

 

[hammerva]

Santa doesn't discriminate who he delivers presents to so why do people care that he is white.

My question is all of this is simple, why is she so concerned that kids might wonder if Santa Claus is less whiter than you originally thought. I mean does the basic symbol of Santa Claus now change drastically? Is she worried that kids will only believe if he is white?

Everybody involved in this needs to realize that kids aren't into this color BS that adults are. Kids don't care if he is black, white, or green as long as he is good. Unfortunately adults are way too concerned.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Santa doesn't discriminate who he delivers presents to so why do people care that he is white.

My question is all of this is simple, why is she so concerned that kids might wonder if Santa Claus is less whiter than you originally thought. I mean does the basic symbol of Santa Claus now change drastically? Is she worried that kids will only believe if he is white?

Who are you talking about? If you're talking about Megyn Kelly, why do you think she's at all concerned about such a thing?

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Santa doesn't discriminate who he delivers presents to so why do people care that he is white.

My question is all of this is simple, why is she so concerned that kids might wonder if Santa Claus is less whiter than you originally thought. I mean does the basic symbol of Santa Claus now change drastically? Is she worried that kids will only believe if he is white?

no, you're completely taking what she said wrong --- that's not on her, although it probably could've been enunciated a little more clearly

I'm not against piling on anybody, but at a certain point it just gets lazy -- that's my only complaint

 

[hammerva]

Santa doesn't discriminate who he delivers presents to so why do people care that he is white.

My question is all of this is simple, why is she so concerned that kids might wonder if Santa Claus is less whiter than you originally thought. I mean does the basic symbol of Santa Claus now change drastically? Is she worried that kids will only believe if he is white?

Who are you talking about? If you're talking about Megyn Kelly, why do you think she's at all concerned about such a thing?

Apparently she is worried about something because she had to make sure to tell kids that Santa was white. My question why does she think that was needed.

And technically it is an problem with both parties. The idea that kids are going to base the believes of Santa because he is white, black, Hindu, or an alien is stupid.

 

[17seconds]

Sorry, Megyn gets a pass due to the hotness factor.

That pretty much illustrates how Fox sucks in their male audience right there. She's hot so let's ignore when she's being a moron. This isn't a random chick trying to become Miss America. She's supposedly a brilliant and rising star over there.

 

[17seconds]

Santa doesn't discriminate who he delivers presents to so why do people care that he is white.

My question is all of this is simple, why is she so concerned that kids might wonder if Santa Claus is less whiter than you originally thought. I mean does the basic symbol of Santa Claus now change drastically? Is she worried that kids will only believe if he is white?

Who are you talking about? If you're talking about Megyn Kelly, why do you think she's at all concerned about such a thing?

Apparently she is worried about something because she had to make sure to tell kids that Santa was white. My question why does she think that was needed.

And technically it is an problem with both parties. The idea that kids are going to base the believes of Santa because he is white, black, Hindu, or an alien is stupid.

Agree completely. What is the point of defending Santa being white? Why is it good that he's white for everyone? Megyn Kelly seems to think it is really important.

You can change him into whatever color you like as far as I care. It's a myth for children.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Sorry, Megyn gets a pass due to the hotness factor.

That pretty much illustrates how Fox sucks in their male audience right there. She's hot so let's ignore when she's being a moron. This isn't a random chick trying to become Miss America. She's supposedly a brilliant and rising star over there.

Tangent!

Oh, please, drama queen. No one else does this except Fox viewers, right? Men - since the beginning of time - have been giving hot women "passes". And now you're going to sit here and suddenly get all moral and serious?

Clearly, you're gay - NTTIAWWT.

In any event, I'm not enraged like you are over this. It's pretty petty. You should be more upset at the woman whose article she was responding to.

 

[MaxThreshold]

I agree with Megyn Kelly about Santa Claus. He has always been portrayed as a jolly fat white guy. Now the PC police want to come in and change it. I don't see why the PC police have to get their panites in a bunch over Santa being a jolly fat white dude. Its just silly and stupid. Santa doesn't discriminate who he delivers presents to so why do people care that he is white. Just a silly and stupid thing to get all PC about.

I agree with your sentiment, but the PC police don't really want to change Santa. In the end this is all a moot point because most non-white people don't have a problem with white Santa. One author, Aisha Harris, succeeded in getting her article recognized by taking a drastic position and getting a mainstream media response from Megyn Kelly. Kudos to Ms. Harris. That's what unknown

Authors should do to develop recognition.

Certainly there are others who feel like Harris, but, from my experience; they're a small minority.

Those determined to categorize Kelly's position as racist are unwilling to truly dissect Harris' argument.

Harris wrote an article saying that Santa Claus should no longer be a white man because a white Holiday figure confuses and does not represent non-white children. Why is the author's assertion that a white figure cannot possibly be looked up to by non-whites not racist?

If race doesn't matter, as that author and many supporting her will assuredly tell you when other race topics are discussed, then why is it so important that Centuries old Santa be changed from being white? If race is irrelevant, why can't non-white children look up to the white Santa figure, and what message is being sent to minority children to say that they can't possibly cherish and/or respect a white figure in a multiracial society without being confused? If a benevolent white figure allegedly causes that much confusion and/or animosity does that speak well of the potential longterm success or cohesion the multiracial societies becoming the norm in America and Europe?

There have also been numerous articles from black authors over the recent years discussing cultural approbation. These articles, also coming from a fringe perspective like Harris', suggest that white artists should not be lauded for performing black music or dance because they appropriated those customs from black culture. If cultural approbation is as negative as these authors suggest, then why is it suddenly a positive to not only appropriate but then completely alter a centuries old central holiday figure of European culture?

Once again, a moot point given there is no widespread support for Harris' position. To recap, though, Harris is the one perturbed over Santa's whiteness while Kelly is giving the historical background of why Santa is a white figure and suggesting there isn't good reason to alter a centuries old figure. Yet, somehow, Kelly has greater race issues than Harris? Go figure.

And articles like this as well.

 

[Fudgie the Whale]

hmmmm....apparently, they do their own fudgy the whale over there, too

This is complete bull####

 

[hammerva]

Oh I doubt that Megyn Kelly would have a problem with a black peter

 

[Widbil83]

Does anybody here actually watch Fox News for anything other than a good chuckle?

I go to MSNBC for that. Between Sharpton, Chris Matthews and Ed Schultz Im usually chuckling so loud I could wake the dead.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Santa doesn't discriminate who he delivers presents to so why do people care that he is white.

My question is all of this is simple, why is she so concerned that kids might wonder if Santa Claus is less whiter than you originally thought. I mean does the basic symbol of Santa Claus now change drastically? Is she worried that kids will only believe if he is white?

Who are you talking about? If you're talking about Megyn Kelly, why do you think she's at all concerned about such a thing?

Apparently she is worried about something because she had to make sure to tell kids that Santa was white. My question why does she think that was needed.

She was discussing an article that suggested portraying Santa as non-white. (I haven't read the article, but I understand that the author gave some serious reasons why depicting Santa as white can be a bit demoralizing for non-white children, and then jokingly suggested that Santa should be depicted as a penguin, thus solving the racial issue.)

The reason people can debate whether Santa should be portrayed as white is that Santa doesn't actually exist. Nobody entertains the thought that George Bush should be depicted as non-white, or Bryan Cranston, or Tom Brady. There's no debate. They're simply white. They just are.

And that was the point that Megyn was making with her spoiler alert. She caught herself discussing how Santa should be portrayed, and then jokingly reassured any kids in the audience, wink wink, that Santa is of course a real person with a real race. Just like Tom Brady, he's white because he just is.

What is the point of defending Santa being white? Why is it good that he's white for everyone? Megyn Kelly seems to think it is really important.

She wasn't "defending" that Santa is white; there's nobody making the contrary charge to defend against. The author of the article being discussed stated that Santa is white. She called him "melanin-deficient." Anyone who's seen Miracle on 34th Street, or has been to the mall, knows that Santa is white. There's no real debate about that. The question is whether he should continue to be portrayed as white, and I didn't see Megyn as having a dog in that fight.

Did you watch the segment? Megyn said something like "The author gave serious reasons and was honest about how she was made to feel when she always viewed Santa being depicted as white," and then solicited comments from here guests. There was no hostility or defensiveness or derisiveness on her part . . . all of that seems to be imagined by people who, as Kool-Aid Larry points out, are hearing what they want to hear so that they can be outraged at Kelly's outrage (even though Kelly wasn't outraged at all).

In context, the whole "Santa is white; he just is" line was a throwaway jest acknowledging the "spoiler alert" nature of discussing Santa's race at all, since Santa is of course a real person, wink wink.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Santa doesn't discriminate who he delivers presents to so why do people care that he is white.

My question is all of this is simple, why is she so concerned that kids might wonder if Santa Claus is less whiter than you originally thought. I mean does the basic symbol of Santa Claus now change drastically? Is she worried that kids will only believe if he is white?

Who are you talking about? If you're talking about Megyn Kelly, why do you think she's at all concerned about such a thing?

Apparently she is worried about something because she had to make sure to tell kids that Santa was white. My question why does she think that was needed.

She was discussing an article that suggested portraying Santa as non-white. (I haven't read the article, but I understand that the author gave some serious reasons why depicting Santa as white can be a bit demoralizing for non-white children, and then jokingly suggested that Santa should be depicted as a penguin, thus solving the racial issue.)

The reason people can debate whether Santa should be portrayed as white is that Santa doesn't actually exist. Nobody entertains the thought that George Bush should be depicted as non-white, or Bryan Cranston, or Tom Brady. There's no debate. They're simply white. They just are.

And that was the point that Megyn was making with her spoiler alert. She caught herself discussing how Santa should be portrayed, and then jokingly reassured any kids in the audience, wink wink, that Santa is of course a real person with a real race. Just like Tom Brady, he's white because he just is.

What is the point of defending Santa being white? Why is it good that he's white for everyone? Megyn Kelly seems to think it is really important.

She wasn't "defending" that Santa is white; there's nobody making the contrary charge to defend against. The author of the article being discussed stated that Santa is white. She called him "melanin-deficient."

Did you watch the segment? Megyn said something like "The author gave serious reasons and was honest about how she was made to feel when she always viewed Santa being depicted as white," and then solicited comments from her guests. There was no hostility or defensiveness or derisiveness on her part . . . all of that seems to be imagined by people who, as Kool-Aid Larry points out, are hearing what they want to hear so that they can be outraged at Kelly's outrage (even though Kelly wasn't outraged at all).

In context, the whole "Santa is white; he just is" line was a throwaway jest acknowledging the "spoiler alert" nature of discussing Santa's race at all, since Santa is of course a real person, wink wink.

at least one person gets it

 

[17seconds]

Sorry, Megyn gets a pass due to the hotness factor.

That pretty much illustrates how Fox sucks in their male audience right there. She's hot so let's ignore when she's being a moron. This isn't a random chick trying to become Miss America. She's supposedly a brilliant and rising star over there.

Tangent!

Oh, please, drama queen. No one else does this except Fox viewers, right? Men - since the beginning of time - have been giving hot women "passes". And now you're going to sit here and suddenly get all moral and serious?

Clearly, you're gay - NTTIAWWT.

In any event, I'm not enraged like you are over this. It's pretty petty. You should be more upset at the woman whose article she was responding to.

I'm not enraged over this, I'm not gay, and I don't overlook ridiculous statements from female news anchors because they're hot. Nice attempt to stir me up though.

 

[Daywalker]

Santa doesn't discriminate who he delivers presents to so why do people care that he is white.

My question is all of this is simple, why is she so concerned that kids might wonder if Santa Claus is less whiter than you originally thought. I mean does the basic symbol of Santa Claus now change drastically? Is she worried that kids will only believe if he is white?

Everybody involved in this needs to realize that kids aren't into this color BS that adults are. Kids don't care if he is black, white, or green as long as he is good. Unfortunately adults are way too concerned.

So just so we're straight Santa being depicted in any race is no big deal? Because kids don't care and adults are idiots if they do?

 

[Dr Oadi]

Santa lives in the North Pole. Dusty Baker logic clearly shows this person is white. if Santa was black he would be in Dasht-e Lut, Iran!

 

[DocHolliday]

I like Megyn even more when she brings up these goofy topics. It is good to hear different topics discussed. I enjoy O'Reilly and the Megyn Kelly programs. Seems like many folks do when you consider the number of viewers those shows pull in each evening.

 

[hammerva]

Santa doesn't discriminate who he delivers presents to so why do people care that he is white.

My question is all of this is simple, why is she so concerned that kids might wonder if Santa Claus is less whiter than you originally thought. I mean does the basic symbol of Santa Claus now change drastically? Is she worried that kids will only believe if he is white?

Everybody involved in this needs to realize that kids aren't into this color BS that adults are. Kids don't care if he is black, white, or green as long as he is good. Unfortunately adults are way too concerned.

So just so we're straight Santa being depicted in any race is no big deal? Because kids don't care and adults are idiots if they do?

 

[jon_mx]

Sorry, Megyn gets a pass due to the hotness factor.

That pretty much illustrates how Fox sucks in their male audience right there. She's hot so let's ignore when she's being a moron. This isn't a random chick trying to become Miss America. She's supposedly a brilliant and rising star over there.

Tangent!

Oh, please, drama queen. No one else does this except Fox viewers, right? Men - since the beginning of time - have been giving hot women "passes". And now you're going to sit here and suddenly get all moral and serious?

Clearly, you're gay - NTTIAWWT.

In any event, I'm not enraged like you are over this. It's pretty petty. You should be more upset at the woman whose article she was responding to.

I'm gay, here me roar.

Fixed.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Santa is burying the lead. White Jesus is the headline here and a pundit insisting that Jesus is white reads like a parody.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Santa is burying the lead. White Jesus is the headline here and a pundit insisting that Jesus is white reads like a parody.

Santa/Jesus what is the difference? They are both fairy tales.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

I don't think we should assume Santa's sexual orientation either.

 

[otello]

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Santa

 

[Stinger Ray]

Santa doesn't discriminate who he delivers presents to so why do people care that he is white.

My question is all of this is simple, why is she so concerned that kids might wonder if Santa Claus is less whiter than you originally thought. I mean does the basic symbol of Santa Claus now change drastically? Is she worried that kids will only believe if he is white?

Who are you talking about? If you're talking about Megyn Kelly, why do you think she's at all concerned about such a thing?

Apparently she is worried about something because she had to make sure to tell kids that Santa was white. My question why does she think that was needed.

She was discussing an article that suggested portraying Santa as non-white. (I haven't read the article, but I understand that the author gave some serious reasons why depicting Santa as white can be a bit demoralizing for non-white children, and then jokingly suggested that Santa should be depicted as a penguin, thus solving the racial issue.)

The reason people can debate whether Santa should be portrayed as white is that Santa doesn't actually exist. Nobody entertains the thought that George Bush should be depicted as non-white, or Bryan Cranston, or Tom Brady. There's no debate. They're simply white. They just are.

And that was the point that Megyn was making with her spoiler alert. She caught herself discussing how Santa should be portrayed, and then jokingly reassured any kids in the audience, wink wink, that Santa is of course a real person with a real race. Just like Tom Brady, he's white because he just is.

What is the point of defending Santa being white? Why is it good that he's white for everyone? Megyn Kelly seems to think it is really important.

She wasn't "defending" that Santa is white; there's nobody making the contrary charge to defend against. The author of the article being discussed stated that Santa is white. She called him "melanin-deficient." Anyone who's seen Miracle on 34th Street, or has been to the mall, knows that Santa is white. There's no real debate about that. The question is whether he should continue to be portrayed as white, and I didn't see Megyn as having a dog in that fight.Did you watch the segment? Megyn said something like "The author gave serious reasons and was honest about how she was made to feel when she always viewed Santa being depicted as white," and then solicited comments from here guests. There was no hostility or defensiveness or derisiveness on her part . . . all of that seems to be imagined by people who, as Kool-Aid Larry points out, are hearing what they want to hear so that they can be outraged at Kelly's outrage (even though Kelly wasn't outraged at all).

In context, the whole "Santa is white; he just is" line was a throwaway jest acknowledging the "spoiler alert" nature of discussing Santa's race at all, since Santa is of course a real person, wink wink.

Well written!

 

[tom22406]

At least she didn't want to #### in someone's mouth like that clown Martin Bashir did.

 

[rct]

At least she didn't want to #### in someone's mouth like that clown Martin Bashir did.

Or shoot somebody like Ted Nugent.

 

[jon_mx]

Santa doesn't discriminate who he delivers presents to so why do people care that he is white.

My question is all of this is simple, why is she so concerned that kids might wonder if Santa Claus is less whiter than you originally thought. I mean does the basic symbol of Santa Claus now change drastically? Is she worried that kids will only believe if he is white?

Who are you talking about? If you're talking about Megyn Kelly, why do you think she's at all concerned about such a thing?

Apparently she is worried about something because she had to make sure to tell kids that Santa was white. My question why does she think that was needed.

She was discussing an article that suggested portraying Santa as non-white. (I haven't read the article, but I understand that the author gave some serious reasons why depicting Santa as white can be a bit demoralizing for non-white children, and then jokingly suggested that Santa should be depicted as a penguin, thus solving the racial issue.)

The reason people can debate whether Santa should be portrayed as white is that Santa doesn't actually exist. Nobody entertains the thought that George Bush should be depicted as non-white, or Bryan Cranston, or Tom Brady. There's no debate. They're simply white. They just are.

And that was the point that Megyn was making with her spoiler alert. She caught herself discussing how Santa should be portrayed, and then jokingly reassured any kids in the audience, wink wink, that Santa is of course a real person with a real race. Just like Tom Brady, he's white because he just is.

What is the point of defending Santa being white? Why is it good that he's white for everyone? Megyn Kelly seems to think it is really important.

She wasn't "defending" that Santa is white; there's nobody making the contrary charge to defend against. The author of the article being discussed stated that Santa is white. She called him "melanin-deficient." Anyone who's seen Miracle on 34th Street, or has been to the mall, knows that Santa is white. There's no real debate about that. The question is whether he should continue to be portrayed as white, and I didn't see Megyn as having a dog in that fight.Did you watch the segment? Megyn said something like "The author gave serious reasons and was honest about how she was made to feel when she always viewed Santa being depicted as white," and then solicited comments from here guests. There was no hostility or defensiveness or derisiveness on her part . . . all of that seems to be imagined by people who, as Kool-Aid Larry points out, are hearing what they want to hear so that they can be outraged at Kelly's outrage (even though Kelly wasn't outraged at all).

In context, the whole "Santa is white; he just is" line was a throwaway jest acknowledging the "spoiler alert" nature of discussing Santa's race at all, since Santa is of course a real person, wink wink.

Well written!

Too many words for the wingbots to comprehend.

 

[17seconds]

Santa doesn't discriminate who he delivers presents to so why do people care that he is white.

My question is all of this is simple, why is she so concerned that kids might wonder if Santa Claus is less whiter than you originally thought. I mean does the basic symbol of Santa Claus now change drastically? Is she worried that kids will only believe if he is white?

Who are you talking about? If you're talking about Megyn Kelly, why do you think she's at all concerned about such a thing?

Apparently she is worried about something because she had to make sure to tell kids that Santa was white. My question why does she think that was needed.

She was discussing an article that suggested portraying Santa as non-white. (I haven't read the article, but I understand that the author gave some serious reasons why depicting Santa as white can be a bit demoralizing for non-white children, and then jokingly suggested that Santa should be depicted as a penguin, thus solving the racial issue.)

The reason people can debate whether Santa should be portrayed as white is that Santa doesn't actually exist. Nobody entertains the thought that George Bush should be depicted as non-white, or Bryan Cranston, or Tom Brady. There's no debate. They're simply white. They just are.

And that was the point that Megyn was making with her spoiler alert. She caught herself discussing how Santa should be portrayed, and then jokingly reassured any kids in the audience, wink wink, that Santa is of course a real person with a real race. Just like Tom Brady, he's white because he just is.

What is the point of defending Santa being white? Why is it good that he's white for everyone? Megyn Kelly seems to think it is really important.

She wasn't "defending" that Santa is white; there's nobody making the contrary charge to defend against. The author of the article being discussed stated that Santa is white. She called him "melanin-deficient." Anyone who's seen Miracle on 34th Street, or has been to the mall, knows that Santa is white. There's no real debate about that. The question is whether he should continue to be portrayed as white, and I didn't see Megyn as having a dog in that fight.Did you watch the segment? Megyn said something like "The author gave serious reasons and was honest about how she was made to feel when she always viewed Santa being depicted as white," and then solicited comments from here guests. There was no hostility or defensiveness or derisiveness on her part . . . all of that seems to be imagined by people who, as Kool-Aid Larry points out, are hearing what they want to hear so that they can be outraged at Kelly's outrage (even though Kelly wasn't outraged at all).

In context, the whole "Santa is white; he just is" line was a throwaway jest acknowledging the "spoiler alert" nature of discussing Santa's race at all, since Santa is of course a real person, wink wink.

Well written!

Too many words for the wingbots to comprehend.

Of course you are impressed. All you have is "you're gay"

 

[17seconds]

Santa doesn't discriminate who he delivers presents to so why do people care that he is white.

My question is all of this is simple, why is she so concerned that kids might wonder if Santa Claus is less whiter than you originally thought. I mean does the basic symbol of Santa Claus now change drastically? Is she worried that kids will only believe if he is white?

Who are you talking about? If you're talking about Megyn Kelly, why do you think she's at all concerned about such a thing?

Apparently she is worried about something because she had to make sure to tell kids that Santa was white. My question why does she think that was needed.

She was discussing an article that suggested portraying Santa as non-white. (I haven't read the article, but I understand that the author gave some serious reasons why depicting Santa as white can be a bit demoralizing for non-white children, and then jokingly suggested that Santa should be depicted as a penguin, thus solving the racial issue.)

The reason people can debate whether Santa should be portrayed as white is that Santa doesn't actually exist. Nobody entertains the thought that George Bush should be depicted as non-white, or Bryan Cranston, or Tom Brady. There's no debate. They're simply white. They just are.

And that was the point that Megyn was making with her spoiler alert. She caught herself discussing how Santa should be portrayed, and then jokingly reassured any kids in the audience, wink wink, that Santa is of course a real person with a real race. Just like Tom Brady, he's white because he just is.

What is the point of defending Santa being white? Why is it good that he's white for everyone? Megyn Kelly seems to think it is really important.

She wasn't "defending" that Santa is white; there's nobody making the contrary charge to defend against. The author of the article being discussed stated that Santa is white. She called him "melanin-deficient." Anyone who's seen Miracle on 34th Street, or has been to the mall, knows that Santa is white. There's no real debate about that. The question is whether he should continue to be portrayed as white, and I didn't see Megyn as having a dog in that fight.Did you watch the segment? Megyn said something like "The author gave serious reasons and was honest about how she was made to feel when she always viewed Santa being depicted as white," and then solicited comments from here guests. There was no hostility or defensiveness or derisiveness on her part . . . all of that seems to be imagined by people who, as Kool-Aid Larry points out, are hearing what they want to hear so that they can be outraged at Kelly's outrage (even though Kelly wasn't outraged at all).

In context, the whole "Santa is white; he just is" line was a throwaway jest acknowledging the "spoiler alert" nature of discussing Santa's race at all, since Santa is of course a real person, wink wink.

I've seen all of it and I don't agree with your assessment. I don't believe she was speaking to children on her nighttime debate show. When have these shows ever addressed children? They decided to discuss this topic and then in the middle of it she realizes "oops, I better protect the myth for children now"?Nobody should be outraged by any of it and Kelly appeared outraged or at least really annoyed. Where is that coming from?

I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she improperly applied the Fox News "let's save 'MUERICA" filter.

 

[jon_mx]

Santa doesn't discriminate who he delivers presents to so why do people care that he is white.

My question is all of this is simple, why is she so concerned that kids might wonder if Santa Claus is less whiter than you originally thought. I mean does the basic symbol of Santa Claus now change drastically? Is she worried that kids will only believe if he is white?

Who are you talking about? If you're talking about Megyn Kelly, why do you think she's at all concerned about such a thing?

Apparently she is worried about something because she had to make sure to tell kids that Santa was white. My question why does she think that was needed.

She was discussing an article that suggested portraying Santa as non-white. (I haven't read the article, but I understand that the author gave some serious reasons why depicting Santa as white can be a bit demoralizing for non-white children, and then jokingly suggested that Santa should be depicted as a penguin, thus solving the racial issue.)

The reason people can debate whether Santa should be portrayed as white is that Santa doesn't actually exist. Nobody entertains the thought that George Bush should be depicted as non-white, or Bryan Cranston, or Tom Brady. There's no debate. They're simply white. They just are.

And that was the point that Megyn was making with her spoiler alert. She caught herself discussing how Santa should be portrayed, and then jokingly reassured any kids in the audience, wink wink, that Santa is of course a real person with a real race. Just like Tom Brady, he's white because he just is.

What is the point of defending Santa being white? Why is it good that he's white for everyone? Megyn Kelly seems to think it is really important.

She wasn't "defending" that Santa is white; there's nobody making the contrary charge to defend against. The author of the article being discussed stated that Santa is white. She called him "melanin-deficient." Anyone who's seen Miracle on 34th Street, or has been to the mall, knows that Santa is white. There's no real debate about that. The question is whether he should continue to be portrayed as white, and I didn't see Megyn as having a dog in that fight.Did you watch the segment? Megyn said something like "The author gave serious reasons and was honest about how she was made to feel when she always viewed Santa being depicted as white," and then solicited comments from here guests. There was no hostility or defensiveness or derisiveness on her part . . . all of that seems to be imagined by people who, as Kool-Aid Larry points out, are hearing what they want to hear so that they can be outraged at Kelly's outrage (even though Kelly wasn't outraged at all).

In context, the whole "Santa is white; he just is" line was a throwaway jest acknowledging the "spoiler alert" nature of discussing Santa's race at all, since Santa is of course a real person, wink wink.

Well written!

Too many words for the wingbots to comprehend.

Of course you are impressed. All you have is "you're gay"

I thought it was funny that it was important enough to you that you had to state a denial.

 

[matuski]

I keep clicking on this thread hoping someone caught her in a bikini on vacation somewhere... the face and cleavage are intriguing.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

When have these shows ever addressed children? They decided to discuss this topic and then in the middle of it she realizes "oops, I better protect the myth for children now"?

Yes. Not because she was seriously worried about spoiling things for kids, but because it's slightly funny to be worried about spoiling things for kids, and she was trying to be slightly funny.

Nobody should be outraged by any of it and Kelly appeared outraged or at least really annoyed.

That's the part I'm not seeing.

Here's the video.

When she introduced the segment, she said that she rolled her eyes when she saw the headline, but then when she read the article, she thought the author expressed honest pain that was worth taking seriously.

She didn't think the penguin idea was worth taking seriously, but that was probably tongue-in-cheek on the author's part as well.

She then said that Jesus was white, which is kind of a stupid thing to say, but whatever. And the whole idea to do this segment in the first place seems kind of stupid (though in hindsight it got mucho publicity, so what do I know?). But at least the show is trying to respond to my previous criticism, which was that it got boring to just be "all Obamacare, all the time."

Still, the idea that Megyn has a bug up her butt about maintaining the racial purity of fictional jolly souls -- I'm just not seeing that.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

#1 Apologist of Megyn Kelly.

 

[timschochet]

Sorry I missed this. mods can go ahead and delete my thread.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

no, delete this one

 

[Joe Summer]

No, delete Tim.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

I don't think we should assume Santa's sexual orientation either.

Well, he does have a beard.

 

[Rove!]

next thing they'll be insisting that George Washington was white too

How the father of our country be portrayed as so Lilly white?

It's an outrage!

 

[Rove!]

What's clear from bringing this up and her reaction is that what's really going on is that the idea of a non-white Santa freaks her the hell out.

Or you could say that Kelly discusses the historical origins of the Santa Claus figure in response to a woman who is freaked the hell out by a white Santa.

They also suggested a Penguin Santa, so maybe they were freaked out by a human Santa.

Why didn't Kelly reassure the children that Santa is, indeed, human?

A penguin at the North Pole? what a friggin' moron

 

[Run It Up]

Guys remember when jesus was the only white guy in the middle east? Im sure its the same thing.

 

[Eephus]

next thing they'll be insisting that George Washington was white too

How the father of our country be portrayed as so Lilly white?

It's an outrage!

George Washington Carver was black, as was George Jefferson

 

[Sweet J]

I agree with Megyn Kelly about Santa Claus. He has always been portrayed as a jolly fat white guy. Now the PC police want to come in and change it. I don't see why the PC police have to get their panites in a bunch over Santa being a jolly fat white dude. Its just silly and stupid. Santa doesn't discriminate who he delivers presents to so why do people care that he is white. Just a silly and stupid thing to get all PC about.

I agree with your sentiment, but the PC police don't really want to change Santa. In the end this is all a moot point because most non-white people don't have a problem with white Santa. One author, Aisha Harris, succeeded in getting her article recognized by taking a drastic position and getting a mainstream media response from Megyn Kelly. Kudos to Ms. Harris. That's what unknown

Authors should do to develop recognition.

Certainly there are others who feel like Harris, but, from my experience; they're a small minority.

Those determined to categorize Kelly's position as racist are unwilling to truly dissect Harris' argument.

Harris wrote an article saying that Santa Claus should no longer be a white man because a white Holiday figure confuses and does not represent non-white children. Why is the author's assertion that a white figure cannot possibly be looked up to by non-whites not racist?

If race doesn't matter, as that author and many supporting her will assuredly tell you when other race topics are discussed, then why is it so important that Centuries old Santa be changed from being white? If race is irrelevant, why can't non-white children look up to the white Santa figure, and what message is being sent to minority children to say that they can't possibly cherish and/or respect a white figure in a multiracial society without being confused? If a benevolent white figure allegedly causes that much confusion and/or animosity does that speak well of the potential longterm success or cohesion the multiracial societies becoming the norm in America and Europe?

There have also been numerous articles from black authors over the recent years discussing cultural approbation. These articles, also coming from a fringe perspective like Harris', suggest that white artists should not be lauded for performing black music or dance because they appropriated those customs from black culture. If cultural approbation is as negative as these authors suggest, then why is it suddenly a positive to not only appropriate but then completely alter a centuries old central holiday figure of European culture?

Once again, a moot point given there is no widespread support for Harris' position. To recap, though, Harris is the one perturbed over Santa's whiteness while Kelly is giving the historical background of why Santa is a white figure and suggesting there isn't good reason to alter a centuries old figure. Yet, somehow, Kelly has greater race issues than Harris? Go figure.

Actually, yes, Kelly does have race issues. If this was just so innocuous, then she'd have let it be. Don't be an apologist.

 

[Sweet J]

Santa doesn't discriminate who he delivers presents to so why do people care that he is white.

My question is all of this is simple, why is she so concerned that kids might wonder if Santa Claus is less whiter than you originally thought. I mean does the basic symbol of Santa Claus now change drastically? Is she worried that kids will only believe if he is white?

Who are you talking about? If you're talking about Megyn Kelly, why do you think she's at all concerned about such a thing?

Apparently she is worried about something because she had to make sure to tell kids that Santa was white. My question why does she think that was needed.

And technically it is an problem with both parties. The idea that kids are going to base the believes of Santa because he is white, black, Hindu, or an alien is stupid.

Agree completely. What is the point of defending Santa being white? Why is it good that he's white for everyone? Megyn Kelly seems to think it is really important.

You can change him into whatever color you like as far as I care. It's a myth for children.

This, times a million bazillion.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Agree completely. What is the point of defending Santa being white? Why is it good that he's white for everyone? Megyn Kelly seems to think it is really important.

You can change him into whatever color you like as far as I care. It's a myth for children.

This, times a million bazillion.

Once you start having different-colored Santas, the story loses all credibility.