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Mendenhall tonight (1 Viewer)
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ditka85
Footballguy
Actually, I'd be shocked if he gets OVER 50 yrds. Not a great matchup for your first NFL start.
Garts
Footballguy
whoops....
Duke1948
Footballguy
that's certainly stepping out on a limb......balt hasn't given up 100 yds to a runner in about 2-3 years.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
As I've mentioned in Mendenhall threads before this one, I hope he does well. I have him as a #4 RB and would love to see him get more time in Pitt. He's got a nasty matchup tonight....if he holds onto the ball, blocks well, and hits the holes hard, I'm liking his chances for the future.
It's amazing how many times the same topic gets brought up. I believe this could have easily gone in the Mendendhall thread that was begun months ago.
It's amazing how many times the same topic gets brought up. I believe this could have easily gone in the Mendendhall thread that was begun months ago.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
that'd be a better YPC than Parker's had against the Ravens since 2005 so i wouldnt really call that stat line a bust.
DrJamesAndrews Fan
Footballguy
78 yds 2 td (BOOM)
steelcityman
Footballguy
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75 yards and a TD in a Steelers 24-14 win.
but willie is back and getting 90% of carries next week.
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75 yards and a TD in a Steelers 24-14 win.
but willie is back and getting 90% of carries next week.
Banger
Footballguy
I think the Steelers take that...3.6 ypc. I'm not sure if the Ravens are as good as they've been made out to be. They've only played two games and they've been against a terrible Clev. team and a worse Cincy team. Tonight will be a great test and should be a great game.
timoleander
Footballguy
Since I have both FWP and the BAL defense (tonight), I'm hoping for bust. My RB corps is getting a bit thin (but thanks for the 100+ this weekend SJax!).
DrJamesAndrews Fan
Footballguy
I hope Willie is back next week, but I think they rest him with the Bye week coming up. That will give him a full 3 weeks to heal.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Ed Bouchette, local Steelers beat writer, has already confirmed that's it very likely Parker misses weeks 4 AND 5 to give Parker almost a full month to heal when they come back from the bye in week 7. Bouchette is practically "a Steeler employee", if some are to be believed, so take that for what it's worth. He certainly is the one local guy that has been proven to be "in the know" in the past. I'd say Parker not playing next week is as close to a given as you can get if he's saying so.As for Mendenhall tonight....if he holds onto the ball I could see him getting 60 total yards and a touchdown as a best case scenario. Worst case? Probably still gets 50 total yards. It may take him 25 touches to get it, but with Roeth being as banged up as he is, I don't see them wanting to get him creamed a dozen times for the second straight game. Mendenhall/the RBs will likely be seing the ball a lot tonight, Ravens run D or no Ravens run D. Tomlin is stubborn.It also isn't likely to take much more than 13 points to beat the Flacco led Ravens, so they may not have to rely on his arm anyway. If they get the lead, I can see them will feeding Mendenhall(as Tomlin claims they're going to) to lessen the amount of time #7 spends on his back.
EBF
Footballguy
I think he'll have a decent game. He's not a home run threat and Baltimore has been stout against the run, but Mendy figures to get a lot of touches. I'll say:
22 carries, 80 yards
2 catches, 12 yards
There's definitely some downside here though. Roethlisberger has been banged up and the Steelers were very mediocre on offense last week. It's not difficult to envision this one getting ugly fast. However, I sort of have a hunch that Pittsburgh will score a couple quick strike passing TDs and put the Ravens away quickly. Call it gambler's fallacy, but I think Holmes is about due to make some noise.
22 carries, 80 yards
2 catches, 12 yards
There's definitely some downside here though. Roethlisberger has been banged up and the Steelers were very mediocre on offense last week. It's not difficult to envision this one getting ugly fast. However, I sort of have a hunch that Pittsburgh will score a couple quick strike passing TDs and put the Ravens away quickly. Call it gambler's fallacy, but I think Holmes is about due to make some noise.
EBF
Footballguy
I don't see the carry total being that low. Parker averaged 22 carries per game in the first three games despite missing time last week. Pitt will definitely try to establish the run. The Ravens are not the type of team that can jump out to a huge early lead and force the Steelers to play catchup. Unless Pitt puts Baltimore away early, this one is going to be a slugfest. Either way, there should be a lot of carries for the Pitt RBs tonight. The only way I see Mendenhall getting less than 18-20 carries is if Moore plays a bigger role than expected.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
NeverEnough
Footballguy
So if he doesn't have a monster game in his 1st NFL start against a very good Balt D he's a bust? Wow...
Captain Spaulding
Footballguy
Honestly, Pitt has had really great success against Baltimore by passing on them deep. I see alot of 1st down play action and really don't see Mendehall getting alot of carries tonight. 15 carries max and <50 yds. Possibly a fumble and no touchdowns.
With that said on Pitts game plan, I expect Pitt to roll the Ravens in a lopsided 10pt. + victory and Pitt will have the #1 defense in the NFL after this game (since the were a very quiet #1 NFL defense last year).
With that said on Pitts game plan, I expect Pitt to roll the Ravens in a lopsided 10pt. + victory and Pitt will have the #1 defense in the NFL after this game (since the were a very quiet #1 NFL defense last year).
Sheriff66
Footballguy
I could see this, I don't expect him to have a great game, but people rarely do against Baltimore. I just hope he holds on to the rock tight this evening.
The_Man
Footballguy
Baltimore has won 4 of the last 5 vs. Pittsburgh, but because the Steelers blew out the Ravens last year on MNF when Baltimore was missing both starting CBs and turned the ball over in Steeler territory 3 times on 8 plays in the second quarter, a lot of people are calling for an easy Pittsburgh win.
I think Mendenhall is still a little suspect in pass protection until he proves otherwise. Moore, meanwhile, is a good pass blocker and sneaky receiver out of the backfield.
I'll say Mendenhall has 15 carries for 48 yards, 2 receptions for 14 yards and no scores.
Moore has 11 carries for 44 yards, 3 receptions for 24 yards and a TD.
Steelers win 17-9, kicking a late FG to put it out of reach.
I think Mendenhall is still a little suspect in pass protection until he proves otherwise. Moore, meanwhile, is a good pass blocker and sneaky receiver out of the backfield.
I'll say Mendenhall has 15 carries for 48 yards, 2 receptions for 14 yards and no scores.
Moore has 11 carries for 44 yards, 3 receptions for 24 yards and a TD.
Steelers win 17-9, kicking a late FG to put it out of reach.
rzrback77
Footballguy
Going against the masses here as I think that the Ravens DST shows up and stonewalls the Pitt running attack and makes the Steelers pass when they have to rather than when they want to. Ravens win 16-9.
Mendenhall 16 carries 45 yards 3 catches 20 yards and 1 FL
Moore 8 carries 18 yards and 5 catches 35 yards
Mendenhall 16 carries 45 yards 3 catches 20 yards and 1 FL
Moore 8 carries 18 yards and 5 catches 35 yards
Folks make a big deal of Mendy's fumbling and that's OK to do so. But keep in mind that Flacco is the Ravens QB. Rookie playing against the Steelers D in Pittsburgh on MNF. I would take Mendenhall's fumbling potential any day over Flacco's potential for INTs.
If I'm the Steelers, I run Mendenhall hard and play the field possession game. His success won't be about yards, or TDs, it'll be about carries. TDs (if any) will determine 'team' success, (maybe him, maybe Moore, maybe passing game). I see it breaking down something like:
3-and-out possessions = even
turnover differential (Mendenhall vs Flacco) = favor Steelers
special teams/return yards = Ravens
play-actions = Steelers
big pass plays = Steelers
Mendenhall = 23 carries, Moore 13 carries
Roethlisberger = 11 of 16
Steelers 20-16
There will be other things to consider but I think these will be the main factors in the game.
If I'm the Steelers, I run Mendenhall hard and play the field possession game. His success won't be about yards, or TDs, it'll be about carries. TDs (if any) will determine 'team' success, (maybe him, maybe Moore, maybe passing game). I see it breaking down something like:
3-and-out possessions = even
turnover differential (Mendenhall vs Flacco) = favor Steelers
special teams/return yards = Ravens
play-actions = Steelers
big pass plays = Steelers
Mendenhall = 23 carries, Moore 13 carries
Roethlisberger = 11 of 16
Steelers 20-16
There will be other things to consider but I think these will be the main factors in the game.
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Marcumzilla
Footballguy
I really need a good game out of him, but being realistic with the Raven defense, the only way I see it happening is if he's lucky enough to punch in a couple short TDs. I don't expect much in terms of yardage. I like him longterm, but my hope in something good tonight is based on wishing rather than any knowledge or expectations - but I'll be cheering.
groin pains
Footballguy
Being that I am playing againdt him tonite wit a marginal lead he will BOOM
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
treat88
Footballguy
Complete BS.Mendenhall will have to have an outstanding showing against not only Balt, but Jax as well to take any of Willie's reps let alone force a RBBC.I wouldn't be shocked if Moore actually outproduces Mendenhall in the early going and Tomlin rides the hot hand giving Moore the more productive stat line.I would however, lay money that mendenhall does not cough up the ball tonight. He knows his PT for the season is riding on that variable.
No chance this turns into a RBBC anytime soon. Parker rushed for over 100 yards each of the first two games and scored three TD. Wek 4 against theEagles, he did nothing. That's not a big surprise because no one has done much against the Eagles.Anyone that thinks that is obviously a Mendenhall owner hoping for a miracle.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
I'll dissent with you and treat above and agree with Clifton. Using Willie Parker the way they did through 3 games, when he is coming off a broken leg, made no sense to me. They are now forced to see what they have in Mendenhall. If he proves capable against 2 good defenses, why wouldnt Mendenhall get a chunk of the action going forward?It will probably be a happy medium.. ie Mendy got nothing through 3 games.. I dont expect it to become 60/40 Mendy's way or anything, but I think he will be involved from this point forward. For this reason and due to the fact that there is always a chance that a player is hurt worse than has been at first revealed, i view FWP as a sell.FWIW I own FWP and do not own Mendy.
Sheriff66
Footballguy
I don't know if it will be full blown RBBC, but if Mendenhall plays well and holds onto the ball, he will start seeing more reps for sure. The Steelers don't want FWP running the ball 30 times a game week in and out, I'm guessing He'll get about 30% of FWPs touches, barring the fumblitis rearing it's ugly head again.
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jurb26
Footballguy
The Steelers traditionally have trouble creating rushing lanes vs. Balt's 3-4, aggressive front 7. Seeing that I think this is the weakest Oline we have had in recent years, it will be tough sledding for Mendenhall and the entire running game. Maybe we can get lucky and the Steelers break a few seams from the emotion of Monday night. All in all, I'm not expecting much. I was forced to start Mendenhall tonight due to injuries/bye week issues. Got my fingers crossed, but I'm not optimistic.
footballisbetter.com
Footballguy
Not much hope for him tonite. A horrible time for first career start. I think he looks solid, but far from great against the Ravens. If Pittsburgh gets anything done tonite it will be through the air.
Tat
Has-been punter
sounds like a Mendenhall owner?I think the only way he gets a TD is inside the 5 yd line.I see a mediocre night, maybe 60 yards off 18 carries.
I'm playing against PIT D so Flacco will definitely have multiple picks and put PIT in position to score.Burning Sensation
Footballguy
I could see him having a couple of decent runs as i suspect Baltimore will be far more concerned about the passing game than the runing game. However, Mendenhall isnt very decisive, and is sluggish getting to the line of scrimage. Between that, and the fact that he will probably just be concerned about not fumbling, i cant see him going over 50 total yards, and the stars would have to aline for him to score a TD.
I can honestly see Moore getting as many, if not more touches than Mendenhall as the game goes on. I do doubt that RM fumbles though.
I can honestly see Moore getting as many, if not more touches than Mendenhall as the game goes on. I do doubt that RM fumbles though.
Follows Closely
Footballguy
Is Mendenhall hurt?
belljr
Footballguy
why do you ask. Don't think he got hurt.
EBF
Footballguy
Mendenhall not having a very good night, I think this is a sign of things to come, his BMI is not that of a productive NFL back.Just for you EBF:
He's doing fine. What were you expecting? 100 yards and a score in the first half?
Riffraff
Footballguy
No, but McGahee is.
