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Willie Parker's contract is up after this season.

His ypc was 3.8 last season; dropped for a fourth straight season.

Parker was never really meant to be a 'workhorse' back and his size caught up with him

last season as he was out for five games with injury and never was 100% once back on the field.

Mendenhall was a 1st round draft pick in 2008 and has the size to be an every down back.

I can easily see him get the goaline looks and an increase in touches as the year progresses.

I have to believe Mendenhall will be trying out this season for next year.

His ADP is the mid 8th round. Not a bad place for a guy who I think will have 600 yds & 7-8 TDs.

If you are in a keeper league and he's still available he should be grabbed ASAP.

Any Steeler fans out there think I'm full of crap ??

 
Until they draft some OL talent and fire Bruce Arians (neither of which appears to be happening in the near future) I don't think any Steeler running back carries significant value unless drafted at a deep discount.

Sure, ideally Mendy will be in the mix in 2010 and he is playing to prove something, but I think there is a better than 50/50 likelihood Willie Parker is back next season. Moore is on board til 2011, and Frank Summers may have been drafted specifically for SY/GL work.

Between the change in organizational philosophy and the depth of talent it looks like a fantasy crapshoot in Pitt for the foreseeable future.

 
I wouldnt write off Willie Parker. He's a few seasons removed from being a star and is playing for money. I could easily see him being a rb2.

But my point of making this post is to mention a couple of things

- Its easier to run in a spread offense (Mendenhall at Illinois)

- Has not done much in preseason action

- my personal humble observation......Mendenhall just straight up runs like a P!@#$$

 
Make no mistake...The Steelers want Mandy to be the top back...Their not going to give it to him but they want him to win...He's a good character kid and will work hard...He is the prototype runningback on a Great team...He'll win the job and you'll be glad you have him...

 
can we please refrain from gay nicknames for players. this is a horrible disease which needs your help to wipe out. TIA.

as for Mendenhall, I agree he is basically given the ball next year unless he just totally tanks this year (possible). Parker isn't worth re-signing for likely what he will ask, even if it's not a lot, and you almost have to give your rd 1 RB pick a shot.

 
underdog223 said:
Make no mistake...The Steelers want Mandy to be the top back...Their not going to give it to him but they want him to win...He's a good character kid and will work hard...He is the prototype runningback on a Great team...He'll win the job and you'll be glad you have him...
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:eek: Sounds like a nickname Parcells would give him after last year's performance.
 
Mendenhall is going to have to earn his carries. FWP, for all his shortcomings, has been very productive as a starter. This looks like RBBC until someone gets hurt or plays well enough to earn the significant majority of the carries. My best guess has FWP getting 15-22 touches a game, with Mendenhall getting 6-10, at least to start the season.

 
brutha said:
can we please refrain from gay nicknames for players. this is a horrible disease which needs your help to wipe out. TIA.as for Mendenhall, I agree he is basically given the ball next year unless he just totally tanks this year (possible). Parker isn't worth re-signing for likely what he will ask, even if it's not a lot, and you almost have to give your rd 1 RB pick a shot.
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I don't agree with anything in this post. :unsure:
 
Sigmund Bloom said:
treat88 said:
I think there is a better than 50/50 likelihood Willie Parker is back next season.
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:lmao: People underestimate how he is thought of in the organization.
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People are also underestimating his own stated desire to remain a Steeler "even if it's as a backup." It seems like the guy really feels like he owes the team a lot for taking a shot on him. Don't forget, he wasn't even starting for his college team and because one of the Rooneys had a connection with someone who'd seen Parker play, at some point, Willie got a shot. If that didn't happen, he's potentially taping other football players ankles before games instead of playing RB in the NFL.That said, I don't think the Steelers will be upset at all if they retain Willie and Mendenhall FORCES them to start him over Parker. I don't think Parker will be either. I also don't think he'd just lay down and take getting benched. If he's still on the team and Mendenhall is annointed the starter, he will have earned it. Parker is reputed to be a balls-to-the-wall practice player/conditioner. If Rashard can drive someone like that to the bench in the next year or so, then that means he'll have to be better at both of those things than Willie. And that would be a good problem for the Steelers to have.
 
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I think it's up to Mendenhall as to how the Steelers RB corps looks next year. If he plays well and eases into a starting spot, I could see them letting Parker leave via FA in the offseason. If he stumbles or gets hurt again, I could see them trying to keep Parker around another year.

I could see the Steelers trying to use Mendenhall kind of like the Cowboys used Marion Barber early on: Not a starter, but the short-yardage, goal line and salt-the-game-away guy.

 
Tigerbot Hesh said:
I could see the Steelers trying to use Mendenhall kind of like the Cowboys used Marion Barber early on: Not a starter, but the short-yardage, goal line and salt-the-game-away guy.
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This is basically what I've said the Steelers needed to do since Bettis retired. They need their "ice back" to put away games. Let teams wear themselves down chasing Parker all over the field for 3 quarters, then bring in the hammer in the 4th to ice it.There are two problems with that, however: 1. Is that if you're going to do that you can't have that guy be someone that puts it on the ground. As it stands right now, Mendenhall has not had a chance to prove that he is over his TC '08 fumblitis problem. Until he does, Coach Mike is NOT going to put him in situations where the game could turn on him coughing it up.2. Is that the Steelers lack the dominating run-blockers that they had 3-4 years ago. Hard to impose your will on anyone when you're relying on Darnell Stapleton, Colon, et al to be able to just shove people off the ball.Aside from that, on paper Mendenhall has the athleticism and the size to be everything they want him to. It remains to be seen if he's going to take the bull by the proverbial horns and actually pull it off.
 
it's funny how Mendehall went from the darling of last year's rookie drafts to an injury and now a bunch of silly nicknames.

How is his situation any different going into this year than it was going into last year?

the guy had exactly 19 carries last season

 
brutha said:
can we please refrain from gay nicknames for players. this is a horrible disease which needs your help to wipe out. TIA.
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...yet referring to things you don't like as "gay" is totally acceptable. :wall:
 
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mobb_deep said:
brutha said:
can we please refrain from gay nicknames for players. this is a horrible disease which needs your help to wipe out. TIA.
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...yet referring to things you don't like as "gay" is totally acceptable. :lmao:
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Oh good lord.... the hypersensitivity does get tiresome. :lmao:
 
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treat88 said:
mobb_deep said:
brutha said:
can we please refrain from gay nicknames for players. this is a horrible disease which needs your help to wipe out. TIA.
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...yet referring to things you don't like as "gay" is totally acceptable. :confused:
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Oh good lord.... the hypersensitivity does get tiresome. :excited:
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actually, i'm with mobb on this one. not to let the discussion of mendenhall devolve into something else, but in this day and age, i'm kind of surprised people still use the word "gay" like that. it just makes you look bad...
 
gorf said:
treat88 said:
mobb_deep said:
brutha said:
can we please refrain from gay nicknames for players. this is a horrible disease which needs your help to wipe out. TIA.
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...yet referring to things you don't like as "gay" is totally acceptable. :pickle:
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Oh good lord.... the hypersensitivity does get tiresome. :rolleyes:
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actually, i'm with mobb on this one. not to let the discussion of mendenhall devolve into something else, but in this day and age, i'm kind of surprised people still use the word "gay" like that. it just makes you look bad...
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:rolleyes:
 
I think he meant it to mean "happy" which essentially is gay, he just went ole school on us. :thumbup: Now can we get back to Mendenhall's prospects... He was talked about as the top RB in what I think will turn out to be one of the best RB classes in a while by 2011. If healthy, he is going to have to get the majority of snaps for the defending champs and their OL can't be as bad as last year so it has to be better although that may not be saying much.

 
As to the actual topic at hand...

I agree with the setiment of Righetti, this guy had the hype machine in full motion last year and is basically unheard of this year. What changed? Assuming the injury is fully cleared up, then I'd say he has the same potential as he did last year.

If he cleared up the fumbles, I'd say he'll get plenty of playing time and will garner more IF he does not fumble. Fumbles will get you a seat on the pine faster than anything else!

 
Mendenhall remains an "enigma" in Pittsburgh

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 13, 2009 2:01 PM ET

In June, Steelers coach Mike Tomlin said that Rashard Mendenhall must earn a role in the offense, implying that nothing will be handed to him.

After two weeks of training camp, it's unclear what Mendenhall has earned.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette writes that Mendenhall remains an "enigma" to the organization, and that he's looked "ordinary" in camp, just like last season.

In fairness, it's hard to evaluate running backs in practice without live hitting. That's why this preseason is so important to Mendenhall's development.

Running backs coach Kirby Wilson is withholding judgment until he sees Mendenhall play with live bullets flying.

"The more he plays, the more he'll identify who he is, and all of us -- myself included -- we can say, OK, this is who he is, this is his style, this is what we can expect from him every week," Wilson said.

"Until we see it week-in and week-out, he's still a mystery man."

Mendenhall has to show the Steelers that he deserves to be on the field or risk getting lost in the shuffle.

Willie Parker remains the team's clear starter, and Mewelde Moore has earned a role on passing downs. Parker may sit out Thursday night's game against the Cardinals because of back spasms, giving Mendenhall a chance to start.

A big preseason by Mendenhall would help to erase the lack of impression he's made thus far in his career.

 
I think this is the reason they haven't done anything with Parker yet. If Mendenhall steps up, they'll let FWP walk and Mendenhall takes over. If he doesn't, they probably extend Parker with a 2 or 3 year deal and look to next year's draft for another RB.

 
underdog223 said:
Make no mistake...The Steelers want Mandy to be the top back...Their not going to give it to him but they want him to win...He's a good character kid and will work hard...He is the prototype runningback on a Great team...He'll win the job and you'll be glad you have him...
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That's debatable. The steelers are rediculously loyal to willie Parker. He's going to have to play himself out of the starting job. I don't think Mendenhall gets the job this year...
 
Shoulder injuries aren't good for Running backs either. The shoulder is exposed on every play and ideally should be utilized by good backs to dish out some hits.

Also worth noting that Mendenhall got stuffed on consecutive goal line runs at steeler's practice the other day.

 
ajopiela said:
Shoulder injuries aren't good for Running backs either. The shoulder is exposed on every play and ideally should be utilized by good backs to dish out some hits.Also worth noting that Mendenhall got stuffed on consecutive goal line runs at steeler's practice the other day.
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He broke his collarbone.......most common sports injury.That steelers GL D is horrible....how did he not get in? Facetious
 
tdmills said:
ajopiela said:
Shoulder injuries aren't good for Running backs either. The shoulder is exposed on every play and ideally should be utilized by good backs to dish out some hits.

Also worth noting that Mendenhall got stuffed on consecutive goal line runs at steeler's practice the other day.
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He broke his collarbone.......most common sports injury.That steelers GL D is horrible....how did he not get in? Facetious
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Wrong, he broke his shoulder blade.
 
gorf said:
treat88 said:
mobb_deep said:
brutha said:
can we please refrain from gay nicknames for players. this is a horrible disease which needs your help to wipe out. TIA.
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...yet referring to things you don't like as "gay" is totally acceptable. :thumbdown:
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Oh good lord.... the hypersensitivity does get tiresome. :thumbup:
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actually, i'm with mobb on this one. not to let the discussion of mendenhall devolve into something else, but in this day and age, i'm kind of surprised people still use the word "gay" like that. it just makes you look bad...
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10 bucks says mobb has called someone a "*******", "#####", or "p*ssy" before, so he's probably one giant hypocrit.
 
ajopiela said:
Shoulder injuries aren't good for Running backs either. The shoulder is exposed on every play and ideally should be utilized by good backs to dish out some hits.

Also worth noting that Mendenhall got stuffed on consecutive goal line runs at steeler's practice the other day.
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Well that settles it. How could a RB behind that o-line not score easily against that defense?
 
Sheriff66 said:
tdmills said:
ajopiela said:
Shoulder injuries aren't good for Running backs either. The shoulder is exposed on every play and ideally should be utilized by good backs to dish out some hits.

Also worth noting that Mendenhall got stuffed on consecutive goal line runs at steeler's practice the other day.
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He broke his collarbone.......most common sports injury.That steelers GL D is horrible....how did he not get in? Facetious
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Wrong, he broke his shoulder blade.
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I stand corrected.....fractured shoulder. I would take that over a knee though.
 
CrossEyed said:
ajopiela said:
Shoulder injuries aren't good for Running backs either. The shoulder is exposed on every play and ideally should be utilized by good backs to dish out some hits.

Also worth noting that Mendenhall got stuffed on consecutive goal line runs at steeler's practice the other day.
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Well that settles it. How could a RB behind that o-line not score easily against that defense?
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It's not a good sign.
 
Biabreakable said:
CrossEyed said:
ajopiela said:
Shoulder injuries aren't good for Running backs either. The shoulder is exposed on every play and ideally should be utilized by good backs to dish out some hits.

Also worth noting that Mendenhall got stuffed on consecutive goal line runs at steeler's practice the other day.
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Well that settles it. How could a RB behind that o-line not score easily against that defense?
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It's not a good sign.
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From today's article in the P-G by Ed Bouchette
It often is difficult to fully evaluate running backs in modern training camps because of the lack of live hitting. Mendenhall has gone through two live snaps in camp, two runs from the 1-yard line in a goal-line team drill Sunday against the first-team defense. He was stuffed once and thrown for a 3-yard loss the other time. That drill is traditionally unfair to the offense.
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Those 2 plays tell us nothing about Rashard Mendenhall.
 
tdmills said:
Sheriff66 said:
tdmills said:
ajopiela said:
Shoulder injuries aren't good for Running backs either. The shoulder is exposed on every play and ideally should be utilized by good backs to dish out some hits.

Also worth noting that Mendenhall got stuffed on consecutive goal line runs at steeler's practice the other day.
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He broke his collarbone.......most common sports injury.That steelers GL D is horrible....how did he not get in? Facetious
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Wrong, he broke his shoulder blade.
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I stand corrected.....fractured shoulder. I would take that over a knee though.
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He could have played last year, so the injury is not a concern and was a fluky one IMO. Mendenhall holding on to the rock is my biggest concern, looked like they dipped the thing in Crisco before they handed off to him last year in preseason, but he showed some flashes too.
 
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Sheriff66 said:
tdmills said:
ajopiela said:
Shoulder injuries aren't good for Running backs either. The shoulder is exposed on every play and ideally should be utilized by good backs to dish out some hits.

Also worth noting that Mendenhall got stuffed on consecutive goal line runs at steeler's practice the other day.
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He broke his collarbone.......most common sports injury.That steelers GL D is horrible....how did he not get in? Facetious
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Wrong, he broke his shoulder blade.
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Wrong, Ray Lewis broke his shoulder blade. :confused:

 
Facecow said:
Sheriff66 said:
tdmills said:
ajopiela said:
Shoulder injuries aren't good for Running backs either. The shoulder is exposed on every play and ideally should be utilized by good backs to dish out some hits.

Also worth noting that Mendenhall got stuffed on consecutive goal line runs at steeler's practice the other day.
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He broke his collarbone.......most common sports injury.That steelers GL D is horrible....how did he not get in? Facetious
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Wrong, he broke his shoulder blade.
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Wrong, Ray Lewis broke his shoulder blade. :(
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I stand corrected :confused:
 
this guy is pissing me off... what's with the spin move every time there is contact? He was doing that a bit last year but seems like he's doing that every run now. Is he scared of collision directly against his shoulder?

 
Arnold. S said:
this guy is pissing me off... what's with the spin move every time there is contact? He was doing that a bit last year but seems like he's doing that every run now. Is he scared of collision directly against his shoulder?
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How dare he get away from defenders....what is he thinking?
 
As I said in the game thread, I thought he looked good tonight. Quick and decisive. If he keeps running like this, Willie's days in Pittsburgh are numbered.

 
CrossEyed said:
EBF said:
RAPTURE said:
What game were you watching, EBF???
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Did you actually watch the game or just look at the stat line?He had nowhere to run on most of his early carries. I thought he looked good though.
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How can you look good with nowhere to run? I didn't think he looked bad, but I don't think he looked good either.
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Just because there aren't big holes doesn't mean you can't evaluate how someone is running. On the flipside, someone can be running through giant lanes and it doesn't mean they're showing you anything. I just watched Shady McCoy's highlights from his game tonight. He racked up nice stats, but I didn't see him "earn" any yards. He had 2-3 touches where there was no one around him for 5-10 yards. Those plays don't necessarily tell you any more about a runner than a 1 yard run.
 
I thought Mendenhall looked fine. Not exceptional, but perfectly acceptable for the first preseason game. He ran hard, carried people forward, and seemed to pick the best miniature holes to go through.

 
lyon812 said:
I thought Mendenhall looked fine. Not exceptional, but perfectly acceptable for the first preseason game. He ran hard, carried people forward, and seemed to pick the best miniature holes to go through.
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Agreed, he seems healthy, and showed good burst on a few runs and I'm still 98.7% confident he will produce RB1or2 numbers if FWP goes down/is traded/etc and the offensive line is halfway decent this year. I liked him coming out college, and I still do....
 
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