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Mewelde Moore in dynasty (1 Viewer)

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I didn't realize it, but Moore has averaged 4.9/carry for his career. Add the fact that he's an excellent receiver and has now shown that he can carry a full load and it seems like he should get the opportunity to be the man somewhere. Thoughts?

 
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I would like to hear the sharks POV on this one. He's only 26 years old and has a ton of tread left on his tires. I know he had his share of off the field issues in Minnesota, but if he can keep his head on straight he could possibly start for another team and have some success.

 
There's a big difference between carrying the load for a couple of games and carrying for a season. It's also difficult for me to see the connection to Turner. Turner was 2nd fiddle behind arguably one of the top 5 RBs of all-time. Everyone knew he was a special talent in. Moore, when given the chance, couldn't beat out the likes of Michael Bennett and Onterrio "The Wizzinator" Smith.

 
There's a big difference between carrying the load for a couple of games and carrying for a season. It's also difficult for me to see the connection to Turner. Turner was 2nd fiddle behind arguably one of the top 5 RBs of all-time. Everyone knew he was a special talent in. Moore, when given the chance, couldn't beat out the likes of Michael Bennett and Onterrio "The Wizzinator" Smith.
I don't think Turner and Moore are in the same class obviously, but I do think Moore could start for an NFL team.
 
There's a big difference between carrying the load for a couple of games and carrying for a season. It's also difficult for me to see the connection to Turner. Turner was 2nd fiddle behind arguably one of the top 5 RBs of all-time. Everyone knew he was a special talent in. Moore, when given the chance, couldn't beat out the likes of Michael Bennett and Onterrio "The Wizzinator" Smith.
I don't think Turner and Moore are in the same class obviously, but I do think Moore could start for an NFL team.
I was all over Moore as a dynasty owner a few years back in Minnesota. The problem with Moore was never talent. It's the fact that he is soft. Frankly, I know he can play well in spurts, but I've seen no evidence to suggest he can be the primary ball carrier for an entire season. He was always in the doghouse in Minnesota because small, nagging injuries would keep him out of games. If he's turned the corner on this, sure, he has some value.
 
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I've been pimping Moore ever since he came into the league, but for whatever reasons he has not captivated much interest among NFL owners. He was a free agent this past offseason and drew very little interest, signing fairly late as a backup with the Steelers. I'm not sure his performance in Pittsburgh has been any different than how he produced in Minnesota, so I'm curious if other teams will look at him any differently now.

 
There's a big difference between carrying the load for a couple of games and carrying for a season.
This was my thought too. Moore was always a solid runner in Minn but he had durability issues while playing there. That's what makes me question whether he could handle being the primary ball carrier for a team for an entire season. Right now he has only played two games as a starter so I think it is premature to think he can be the main guy for a team given his injury history.
 
He's on a three year deal in Pitt.

FWP is under contract next season and Mendenhall will be back.

At his absolute best he's the receiving part of a full blown RBBC. Behind an OL that is not getting any better any time soon.

After his time in Pitt, who knows. That's a long time coming and a lot of variables we don't know to project any value at all.

 
He's on a three year deal in Pitt.FWP is under contract next season and Mendenhall will be back.At his absolute best he's the receiving part of a full blown RBBC. Behind an OL that is not getting any better any time soon.After his time in Pitt, who knows. That's a long time coming and a lot of variables we don't know to project any value at all.
:goodposting: he's a decent player always was been, but he's stuck in backup mode for the next couple years unless those other two keep getting hurt., and Moore himself has never been the picture of health even being a part time player.I think he would be like 28-29 when his contract expires in pitt, nothing like turner anyways.
 
There's a big difference between carrying the load for a couple of games and carrying for a season. It's also difficult for me to see the connection to Turner. Turner was 2nd fiddle behind arguably one of the top 5 RBs of all-time. Everyone knew he was a special talent in. Moore, when given the chance, couldn't beat out the likes of Michael Bennett and Onterrio "The Wizzinator" Smith.
I don't think Turner and Moore are in the same class obviously, but I do think Moore could start for an NFL team.
I was all over Moore as a dynasty owner a few years back in Minnesota. The problem with Moore was never talent. It's the fact that he is soft. Frankly, I know he can play well in spurts, but I've seen no evidence to suggest he can be the primary ball carrier for an entire season. He was always in the doghouse in Mineesota because small, nagging injuries would keep him out of games. If he's turned the corner on this, sure, he has some value.
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If he can stay healthy, which has yet to happen in his career. Who knows, maybe he could turn into a poor man's Fragile Fred.

 
I started this thread a few weeks ago for this reason. Moore may play in a crowded backfield, but ignore his talent at your own peril. When getting 20+ touches, Moore has shown that he is easily a RB1 and there are few available players with that kind of upside.

Moores recent string of production is actually less than his average with 20+ touches when he was in Minn.

 
He's on a three year deal in Pitt.FWP is under contract next season and Mendenhall will be back.At his absolute best he's the receiving part of a full blown RBBC. Behind an OL that is not getting any better any time soon.After his time in Pitt, who knows. That's a long time coming and a lot of variables we don't know to project any value at all.
The OL may not be able to pass protect worth a #### but they can open a hole for a rb rather well.
 
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I started this thread a few weeks ago for this reason. Moore may play in a crowded backfield, but ignore his talent at your own peril. When getting 20+ touches, Moore has shown that he is easily a RB1 and there are few available players with that kind of upside.

Moores recent string of production is actually less than his average with 20+ touches when he was in Minn.
Is there a HB in the NFL who, in a given week, could realistically could get 20+ touches and not be a RB1? Anwyay, I agree that MeMo is an underrated talent, but he's never shown that he can play through pain/injuries over the course of weeks, and that means that, should that continue, he's just not reliable and valuable long term in fantasy football.

 
He's a perfect fit for what he is. A backup RB.

He had shown in a few seasons in Minn that he can't carry the full load, but as a backup, he did very good there, and so far in Pittsburgh, he is performing very well. As a backup.

 
I started this thread a few weeks ago for this reason. Moore may play in a crowded backfield, but ignore his talent at your own peril. When getting 20+ touches, Moore has shown that he is easily a RB1 and there are few available players with that kind of upside.

Moores recent string of production is actually less than his average with 20+ touches when he was in Minn.
Is there a HB in the NFL who, in a given week, could realistically could get 20+ touches and not be a RB1? Anwyay, I agree that MeMo is an underrated talent, but he's never shown that he can play through pain/injuries over the course of weeks, and that means that, should that continue, he's just not reliable and valuable long term in fantasy football.
This is a case of perception not matching reality. Moore hasnt missed a game due to inry since a high ankle sprain in his rookie season in 2004. Find another RB who has been as durable....you cant.

In fact, one of the more legendary Mike Tice/Mewelde Moore spats was over the Minnesota/NYG game in 2005. Tice kept making excuses as to why Michael Bennett would start over Moore (despite Moore being far more productive) and Tice made up the whole cant play hurt thing....In that game, Michael Bennett had 19 carries for 16 yards. When asked about why Moore didnt get any snaps at RB, Tice replied that Moore had a bum wrist and wasnt healthy enough to take a handoff...but Moore won the game returning a punt for a TD.

So his wrist prevented him from taking handoffs but not catching punts? Riiiiiight.

Moore has been exceptionally durable over his career in both college and NFL. Thats a fact.

 
The OL may not be able to pass protect worth a #### but they can open a hole for a rb rather well.
Kemo is a UFA, Smith is a UFA, Starks is a UFA.Hartwig and Stapleton and Colon are left. Colon is a RFA and probably the worst RT in the league. Hartwig is average and injury prone. Stapleton looks promising, but is as unproven as it gets.Simmons may be back, but diabetes and an Achilles tear are not a good combination. He was awful when healthy besides.This is likely to be a unit in heavy transition for at least the next 2 years and isn't a great bet to perform well.Since we're talking about dynasty value this seems pertinent.Moore is a talented kid and a valuable back-up, but to project significant dynasty value given all the competition and questions surrounding his situation seems like a reach.
 
Moore has done nothing but produce as the starter in Pitt. And every time he has been given a chance he has put up very good numbers. Not sure what happens going forward but if Parker can't get healthy Moore is a great starter

 
He's a perfect fit for what he is. A backup RB.He had shown in a few seasons in Minn that he can't carry the full load, but as a backup, he did very good there, and so far in Pittsburgh, he is performing very well. As a backup.
If I recall his play in Minnesota, he produced very well when thrust into a feature role, but was never given the feature role for any length of time. He came on in relief, played well, then was relegated back to the backup spot when the starter came back. I don't recall anytime where he was given the feature back role and failed.
 
The OL may not be able to pass protect worth a #### but they can open a hole for a rb rather well.
Kemo is a UFA, Smith is a UFA, Starks is a UFA.Hartwig and Stapleton and Colon are left. Colon is a RFA and probably the worst RT in the league. Hartwig is average and injury prone. Stapleton looks promising, but is as unproven as it gets.Simmons may be back, but diabetes and an Achilles tear are not a good combination. He was awful when healthy besides.This is likely to be a unit in heavy transition for at least the next 2 years and isn't a great bet to perform well.Since we're talking about dynasty value this seems pertinent.Moore is a talented kid and a valuable back-up, but to project significant dynasty value given all the competition and questions surrounding his situation seems like a reach.
Thank you for the o-line clarification. Now I will sleep as well as Big Ben does at night :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :wall: :thumbdown:
 
He's a perfect fit for what he is. A backup RB.He had shown in a few seasons in Minn that he can't carry the full load, but as a backup, he did very good there, and so far in Pittsburgh, he is performing very well. As a backup.
If I recall his play in Minnesota, he produced very well when thrust into a feature role, but was never given the feature role for any length of time. He came on in relief, played well, then was relegated back to the backup spot when the starter came back. I don't recall anytime where he was given the feature back role and failed.
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He's a perfect fit for what he is. A backup RB.He had shown in a few seasons in Minn that he can't carry the full load, but as a backup, he did very good there, and so far in Pittsburgh, he is performing very well. As a backup.
If I recall his play in Minnesota, he produced very well when thrust into a feature role, but was never given the feature role for any length of time. He came on in relief, played well, then was relegated back to the backup spot when the starter came back. I don't recall anytime where he was given the feature back role and failed.
I agree. Sorry, should have expanded a bit more on this. As previously mentioned, his coaches (in Minn) must not have seen enough from him to warrant him being a full time starter. And this was behind some so-so backs. So who knows. But the fact does remain, he has mostly been utilized as a backup and he has performed well at it. Why exactly he hasn't been given a starting nod is anyone's guess. 2 organizations thus far, and he didn't get many feelers in FA. So there must be something......
 
Copeman said:
Road Warriors said:
He's a perfect fit for what he is. A backup RB.He had shown in a few seasons in Minn that he can't carry the full load, but as a backup, he did very good there, and so far in Pittsburgh, he is performing very well. As a backup.
If I recall his play in Minnesota, he produced very well when thrust into a feature role, but was never given the feature role for any length of time. He came on in relief, played well, then was relegated back to the backup spot when the starter came back. I don't recall anytime where he was given the feature back role and failed.
I agree. Sorry, should have expanded a bit more on this. As previously mentioned, his coaches (in Minn) must not have seen enough from him to warrant him being a full time starter. And this was behind some so-so backs. So who knows. But the fact does remain, he has mostly been utilized as a backup and he has performed well at it. Why exactly he hasn't been given a starting nod is anyone's guess. 2 organizations thus far, and he didn't get many feelers in FA. So there must be something......
I recall seeing him when Bennett ( i think ) went down, and wondered why he didn't get more of a look from MIN at the time. Bennett never had the look of a complete NFL RB, straightline speed and very little wiggle. Moore looked like a decent RB that could/should excel in the 3rd down role, but with enough skills to be a feature guy. Maybe the thinking you're displaying here... "So there must be something..." is part of the reason he didn't get much of a sniff in FA this past year. :coffee:
 
Copeman said:
Road Warriors said:
He's a perfect fit for what he is. A backup RB.He had shown in a few seasons in Minn that he can't carry the full load, but as a backup, he did very good there, and so far in Pittsburgh, he is performing very well. As a backup.
If I recall his play in Minnesota, he produced very well when thrust into a feature role, but was never given the feature role for any length of time. He came on in relief, played well, then was relegated back to the backup spot when the starter came back. I don't recall anytime where he was given the feature back role and failed.
I agree. Sorry, should have expanded a bit more on this. As previously mentioned, his coaches (in Minn) must not have seen enough from him to warrant him being a full time starter. And this was behind some so-so backs. So who knows. But the fact does remain, he has mostly been utilized as a backup and he has performed well at it. Why exactly he hasn't been given a starting nod is anyone's guess. 2 organizations thus far, and he didn't get many feelers in FA. So there must be something......
I recall seeing him when Bennett ( i think ) went down, and wondered why he didn't get more of a look from MIN at the time. Bennett never had the look of a complete NFL RB, straightline speed and very little wiggle. Moore looked like a decent RB that could/should excel in the 3rd down role, but with enough skills to be a feature guy. Maybe the thinking you're displaying here... "So there must be something..." is part of the reason he didn't get much of a sniff in FA this past year. :blackdot:
I agree with you totally on this one. I think MeMoore has the potential to be a solid RB2 or a borderline RB1 if the carries are given to him. Some body posted earlier that any back who gets 20 carries could be a RB1 and I think that is totally wrong. I could name some backs who couldn't cut it now even if they were given 20 carries. Moore has the ability and is exceptional catching out of the backfield. The only thing that I don't like is his contract situation. In Pittsburgh his value is definitely limited with Parker and Mendenhall. But in the event that he is traded (not sure the probability of that) his value sky rockets I think.
 
Mewelde signed a 3 year 4.95 mill contract back in March.

If I'm the Steelers FO and I have a guy in his prime years who is both an extremely capable back-up and valuable ST contributor, no way do I trade him. At least not for anything other teams might realistically offer.

I'd actually be looking to extend him if he was interested.

 

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