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Mewlede Moore's Chances For Good Game Vs. Giants (1 Viewer)

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Now that it's official that Parker will be out v. the Giants, what are your thoughts that Mewelde Moore will have a good game? Aren't the Giants supposed to be good v. the run? Will they get him involved in the passing game?

 
Yes, the Giants are good against the run and yes, he should be involved in the passing game.

With Holmes being out he figures to be involved even more than otherwise. He has always been a good receiver and if the Giants take away the run effectively then he probably will get away a lot of dump passes.

My projection would be 15 car 55 yards and 6 rec for 45 yards.

Remember he came in pretty late against Baltimore after Mendenhall went down. In that game he had only 15 yards on 6 carries but he also had over 30 yards receiving.

 
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Jamal Lewis didn't seem to have any problem running against them.

I don't see why Moore can't equal his numbers from last weekend ... minus all the TD's

 
Yes, the Giants are good against the run and yes, he should be involved in the passing game.With Holmes being out he figures to be involved even more than otherwise. He has always been a good receiver and if the Giants take away the run effectively then he probably will get away a lot of dump passes.My projection would be 15 car 55 yards and 6 rec for 45 yards.Remember he came in pretty late against Baltimore after Mendenhall went down. In that game he had only 15 yards on 6 carries but he also had over 30 yards receiving.
15 points in PPR isn't too bad. And that's not accounting for the potentiality of a TD. He has shown an ability to run pretty well and pick up the blitz, which we know Roethlisberger will count on against the Giants pass rush. All things considered, the Steelers are at home and their crowd will give them a boost. MM could be a decent start as a midrange RB2.
 
Yes, the Giants are good against the run and yes, he should be involved in the passing game.With Holmes being out he figures to be involved even more than otherwise. He has always been a good receiver and if the Giants take away the run effectively then he probably will get away a lot of dump passes.My projection would be 15 car 55 yards and 6 rec for 45 yards.Remember he came in pretty late against Baltimore after Mendenhall went down. In that game he had only 15 yards on 6 carries but he also had over 30 yards receiving.
I disagree on a few accounts.I don't see a correlation between a WR being out and a RB being better. They play 2 different positions. Nate Washington has been getting more looks lately and I could see him filling in for Holmes very well, if not better than Holmes has done so far this yearSecond, I don't see him getting 6 receptions. He's got 11 all season (yes 5 last week, evidence of increased activity in the passing game), but I don't see him getting more than 3-4 this week. Very small difference, but that's 2-3 points right there. I think the NYG shut down the rushing game and force PIT to pass a lot. I see a game of maybe:18 carries, 75 yards, 4 receptions, 25 receiving yards. No scores
 
I actually think Holmes being out changes the complexion of the game for Moore greatly.

Butler will now be able to play more of an in the box role; possibly shadowing Moore. I have zero confidence Washington will force them to keep both safeties back.

Decreased running lanes plus a safety in coverage equals a tough day for Moore.

Additionally, with Smith missing from the DL and Polamalu a hit away from the bench I could see a significant halftime lead for the Giants further decreasing Moore's role in the O in the second half.

In short, unless Pitt surprises me and gets a lead early, I just don't see Moore doing much.

I hope I am wrong.

 
I actually think Holmes being out changes the complexion of the game for Moore greatly.Butler will now be able to play more of an in the box role; possibly shadowing Moore. I have zero confidence Washington will force them to keep both safeties back.Decreased running lanes plus a safety in coverage equals a tough day for Moore.Additionally, with Smith missing from the DL and Polamalu a hit away from the bench I could see a significant halftime lead for the Giants further decreasing Moore's role in the O in the second half.In short, unless Pitt surprises me and gets a lead early, I just don't see Moore doing much.I hope I am wrong.
:goodposting:great analysisI think the secret's out on MM and I think we'll see a decrease in his production this week
 
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Yes, the Giants are good against the run and yes, he should be involved in the passing game.With Holmes being out he figures to be involved even more than otherwise. He has always been a good receiver and if the Giants take away the run effectively then he probably will get away a lot of dump passes.My projection would be 15 car 55 yards and 6 rec for 45 yards.Remember he came in pretty late against Baltimore after Mendenhall went down. In that game he had only 15 yards on 6 carries but he also had over 30 yards receiving.
I disagree on a few accounts.I don't see a correlation between a WR being out and a RB being better. They play 2 different positions. Nate Washington has been getting more looks lately and I could see him filling in for Holmes very well, if not better than Holmes has done so far this yearSecond, I don't see him getting 6 receptions. He's got 11 all season (yes 5 last week, evidence of increased activity in the passing game), but I don't see him getting more than 3-4 this week. Very small difference, but that's 2-3 points right there. I think the NYG shut down the rushing game and force PIT to pass a lot. I see a game of maybe:18 carries, 75 yards, 4 receptions, 25 receiving yards. No scores
I don't consider 18/75 shutting down the running game. That's a 4yd/carry average which isn't great, but far from being shutdown. Project that for a season and you got 1200/400 which would be a good year for most backs.Your correlation to inrease in catches comes from less skilled receivers down field, therfore more checkdowns to RB's.All that being said, I'm very interested in finding out if the Giants are for real or if there record is a direct result of their poor opponents thusfar. I think 18/75 may be pretty close, and 6/45 receiving and a TD either way isn't unreasonable. I have better options though so I'll be watching without conflict.
 
Giants defense is good, I see for M.M.

16 rushes for 61 and 4 rec's for 17 no t.d.'s

This will be the Hines Ward show this week

 
I actually think Holmes being out changes the complexion of the game for Moore greatly.Butler will now be able to play more of an in the box role; possibly shadowing Moore. I have zero confidence Washington will force them to keep both safeties back.Decreased running lanes plus a safety in coverage equals a tough day for Moore.Additionally, with Smith missing from the DL and Polamalu a hit away from the bench I could see a significant halftime lead for the Giants further decreasing Moore's role in the O in the second half.In short, unless Pitt surprises me and gets a lead early, I just don't see Moore doing much.I hope I am wrong.
I agree, as a Mewlede owner, its disconcerting, but as a Giants fan, I'm a happy camper. You'd like to have that guy stretching the field and softening up the underneath. Although I don't think the second half thing is an issue, I can see a lot of dumpoffs going Mewelde's way if the Giants are up. Since we're predicting stats15 for 716 catches for 49no TDs
 
All that being said, I'm very interested in finding out if the Giants are for real or if there record is a direct result of their poor opponents thusfar.
:shrug: The GMen has a great Rushing Yard allowed is mostly a result of the large leads they put on a couple of teams.Week 1: Was looked awful, but Portis still had 83 ydsWeek 2: NYG crushed StL, but SJax still had a good PPR day w/ 7 Recs & 90 totalWeek 3: Cinny almost upset them, Perry w/ just under 100 total & a TDWeek 5: Played Sea, enough said.. JJ had about 8+ PPR ptsWeek 6: Lost to Cleveland, Lewis had a good day w/ 90+ total & TDWeek 7: Beat SF, Gore had a let down game w/ his 1 YPC avg.IMO, Moore is a decent play this week.. good for 90 - 100 total w/ about 4 Recs. NY doesn't allow any GL TDs, thats why thier PPR Fantasy Ranking is so good... only 2 or 3 RB Scores all yr; but if theres one team in the league that can punch in a short one... its Pitt.
 
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I actually think Holmes being out changes the complexion of the game for Moore greatly.Butler will now be able to play more of an in the box role; possibly shadowing Moore. I have zero confidence Washington will force them to keep both safeties back.Decreased running lanes plus a safety in coverage equals a tough day for Moore.Additionally, with Smith missing from the DL and Polamalu a hit away from the bench I could see a significant halftime lead for the Giants further decreasing Moore's role in the O in the second half.In short, unless Pitt surprises me and gets a lead early, I just don't see Moore doing much.I hope I am wrong.
:tinfoilhat:great analysisI think the secret's out on MM and I think we'll see a decrease in his production this week
:unsure: I mean that with all due respect. What secret are you speaking of? He had 31 points in my league last week and has looked very strong as both a running and receiving threat. I might make the wrong start tomorrow but I have him in over M. Turner at this point.
 
i think MM has a good chance of having a nice fantasy game vs the g-men. the game is in Pitt. if the browns can do it, so can the steelers. and look for eli to turn the ball over. the giants D could be in for a long nite.

 
treat88 said:
I actually think Holmes being out changes the complexion of the game for Moore greatly.

Butler will now be able to play more of an in the box role; possibly shadowing Moore. I have zero confidence Washington will force them to keep both safeties back.

Decreased running lanes plus a safety in coverage equals a tough day for Moore.

Additionally, with Smith missing from the DL and Polamalu a hit away from the bench I could see a significant halftime lead for the Giants further decreasing Moore's role in the O in the second half.

In short, unless Pitt surprises me and gets a lead early, I just don't see Moore doing much.

I hope I am wrong.
If they could get a long completion or two early for Washington I think it opens the door. Until they do though I don't think the Giants will respect it.
 
KellysHeroes said:
IVNACATES said:
All that being said, I'm very interested in finding out if the Giants are for real or if there record is a direct result of their poor opponents thusfar.
:lmao: The GMen has a great Rushing Yard allowed is mostly a result of the large leads they put on a couple of teams.Week 1: Was looked awful, but Portis still had 83 ydsWeek 2: NYG crushed StL, but SJax still had a good PPR day w/ 7 Recs & 90 totalWeek 3: Cinny almost upset them, Perry w/ just under 100 total & a TDWeek 5: Played Sea, enough said.. JJ had about 8+ PPR ptsWeek 6: Lost to Cleveland, Lewis had a good day w/ 90+ total & TDWeek 7: Beat SF, Gore had a let down game w/ his 1 YPC avg.IMO, Moore is a decent play this week.. good for 90 - 100 total w/ about 4 Recs. NY doesn't allow any GL TDs, thats why thier PPR Fantasy Ranking is so good... only 2 or 3 RB Scores all yr; but if theres one team in the league that can punch in a short one... its Pitt.
Kelly's Heros - excellent post. Thanks for doing the leg work here. I am actually going to start Moore over Brandon Jacobs, though it's a very tough call. I like Pitt at home, that's probably the tie breaker.
 
If they could get a long completion or two early for Washington I think it opens the door. Until they do though I don't think the Giants will respect it.
I agree, I'm just not optimistic.Last year Holmes and Ward missed 3 games each. Nate played in 16 games and had 4 starts.How did Washington step up and play?In week 4 at Arizona, Ward was out and Nate Washington had 2 catches for 18 yds.In week 5 at home against Seattle, Ward and Holmes out, Nate had 3 catches for 26 yds.In week 12 at home against Miami, Holmes out and Nate had 1 catch for 6 yds.In week 13 at home against Cincy, Holmes out and Nate had 2 catches for 16 yds.In week 17 at Baltimore, Ward out and Nate had 5 catches for 68 yds.So, in those 5 games where either Holmes or Ward or both were out, Nate Washington had 13 catches for 134 yds, a 10.3 yd avg and 0 TDs.
 
It all depends on who you have on your team. I have him in two leagues, he's starting in one and sitting in another.

In League 1, I have Gore and MJD.......he's sitting.

In League 2, I have Tomlinson and Benson/F. Taylor/K.Smith.....he's starting.

In PPR leagues, he should be solid. It's hard to gauge Td's but you can bet the Giants won't be giving up too many on the ground. MM is playing well though and I think he finds his way into thet endzone somehow, someway as he's going to be involved in the offense in both phases. Ride the hot hand.

 
I think the only way Mewelde doesn't have at least a decent game is if the Steelers just completely melt down and get killed by the Giants. Otherwise, Mewelde is currently so involved in the offense (running and receiving), and Ben has one less reliable target (Holmes), so Moore is going to get his touches. He's not likely to blow up like last week against the Bengals, but I'd expect 80+ total yards and a decent shot at a TD. I'll take that production from my RB3/flex player.

 
I think the only way Mewelde doesn't have at least a decent game is if the Steelers just completely melt down and get killed by the Giants. Otherwise, Mewelde is currently so involved in the offense (running and receiving), and Ben has one less reliable target (Holmes), so Moore is going to get his touches. He's not likely to blow up like last week against the Bengals, but I'd expect 80+ total yards and a decent shot at a TD. I'll take that production from my RB3/flex player.
:confused: Moore is going to be a huge part of the offense and will be on the field for probably 3/4 offensive snaps. I don't know jow effective he'll be but he is going to have a LOT of opportunities.Ward and TE Heath Miller should get lots of targets as well.
 
I think the only way Mewelde doesn't have at least a decent game is if the Steelers just completely melt down and get killed by the Giants. Otherwise, Mewelde is currently so involved in the offense (running and receiving), and Ben has one less reliable target (Holmes), so Moore is going to get his touches. He's not likely to blow up like last week against the Bengals, but I'd expect 80+ total yards and a decent shot at a TD. I'll take that production from my RB3/flex player.
:thumbup: Moore is going to be a huge part of the offense and will be on the field for probably 3/4 offensive snaps. I don't know jow effective he'll be but he is going to have a LOT of opportunities.Ward and TE Heath Miller should get lots of targets as well.
Looking good so far, but I do hate it when a Steelers fan agrees with me.
 
Moore has been super solid when given the chance.....

Too bad it looks like Parker will be back for the next game. But having Moore the last few weeks has been a great surprise. I still see Moore being more involved in the running game + 3rd down so his value isn't totally shot....but more like a low end flex or #3 RB...

 
Anyone know Mewelde's contract status? Did he sign a multi-year deal with Pittsburgh, or is he free after the season?

 
Anyone know Mewelde's contract status? Did he sign a multi-year deal with Pittsburgh, or is he free after the season?
Moore has a 3 yr deal in place3/3/2008: Signed a three-year, $4.95 million contract. The deal included a $1.35 million signing bonus. 2008: $650,000, 2009-2010: $1.475 million, 2011: Free Agent. Cap charges: $1.1 million (2008).and FWP is only signed to 098/30/2006: Signed a four-year, $13.6 million contract. The deal included a $3.75 million signing bonus. Another $4.5 million is available through incentives. 2008: $2.9 million, 2009: $3.35 million, 2010: Free AgentI bet ya Willie signs an extension over the off-season... one of those deals where he'll make less money in 09 but get a big payday if he makes to 2010
 
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