Michael Turner 4th overall? redraft non ppr (1 Viewer)

[mt-wabo]

Okay the other day we drew our draft picks and I got 4th our league is non ppr and awards 6pts per td regardless of the position except form defense it is a12 team league without a flex option as well. Alot of the so called experts are really starting to push Turner right now over Ray Rice or MJD. The only thing that scares me about rice is their schedule is not very easy plus mcgahee isnt going away anytime soon. MJD seems to always deliver despite how bad of an overall team jacksonville is. But with Turner he is healthy, and really has no threats to lose carries. Plus they play over 10 games in a dome and he is their goal line back as well. So there you have it what do you guys think about taking Turner over Rice or MJD?

Thanks

 

[sjdogs]

I have been posting about this dilema for a week here. I am relatively certain Turner is my guy at #3 in NON PPR. With this pick I DO NOT want to worry about anyone else getting my guys carries or TDS. Turner is the only one who can claim that and he is a TD machine. I kinow rice will have a great season but ever time Mcgahee scores ill be annoyed and I think Turner will have more TDs then Rice anyway. This move makes sense to me. Gore was my other consideration with a fantastic schedule, i havent ruled him out but there is Westbrook

 

[Resident A]

I'm taking Turner at #5 in my main league (non PPR). I would take him over Rice or Gore in any non-PPR.

 

[RICK ROMO]

i'm actually thinking of taking turner at 5 IN a ppr league. i don't trust gore with westbrook there and even dixon looks like a player. can't think of any players better than turner that i would pick at 5 in a ppr that don't have questions. i think he is a td machine this yr. 18-21 td's

 

[Grahamburn]

ACF down?

 

[meanjoegreen]

Turner is Atlanta's bell cow, and I think he holds just as much value as Ray Rice in non-PPR leagues.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

I wouldn't take him over MJD, simply because MJD is capable of what Turner is, and then adds another element in the rec game. However, Rice has a TD vulture, and has only had one good year. Turner was on a similar pace as 2008 last year and Mularky isn't going to change his philosophy, they will run the rock!

I like Turner after CJ, ADP, MJD.

I am a little shocked by how much Gore has dropped because of the Westy signing. I can see him landing in my lap at #6. A month ago he was talked about being a top 3 pick over MJD.

 

[Dought Man]

I wouldn't take him over MJD, simply because MJD is capable of what Turner is, and then adds another element in the rec game. However, Rice has a TD vulture, and has only had one good year. Turner was on a similar pace as 2008 last year and Mularky isn't going to change his philosophy, they will run the rock!I like Turner after CJ, ADP, MJD.I am a little shocked by how much Gore has dropped because of the Westy signing. I can see him landing in my lap at #6. A month ago he was talked about being a top 3 pick over MJD.

Turner went before MJD and Gore in 2 straight drafts for me last night. 10 team non ppr's. I guess he feels like the "safe" pick in a non ppr.

 

[LHUCKS]

My non ppr rankings are as follows:

Peterson

Johnson

Rice

Gore

MJD

Turner

The only person I'd consider Turner over is MJD, and that's a tough sell since MJD's risk is mitigated due to receiving yards and redzone attempts.

 

[Fantaholic]

In my main league I have the 3rd overall pick (non-ppr, redraft), and a few weeks ago I was very happy with that pick assuming CJ and AP were gone, and I would still end up with MJD.

For some reason as the draft nears, I have been feeling less and less comfortable with the pick. I can't put my finger on it, but I don't feel as certain as I did taking MJD. I do believe Gore and Turner could provide similar production later on in the first round. Could be just overanalyzing, but I would entertain offers to move down a few slots in the first.

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

I personally would have a hard time taking Turner at 4, but I could absolutely understand if someone did.

I wouldn't be totally stunned if he scored 15-17 TDs, and nobody would turn that down for their 1st rounder.

If players are basically on the same tier, just take the dude you think will give you the most points...popular "rankings" be damned.

If I was convinced that Turner was going to score more fantasy points than Rice or Gore or MJD, I'm taking Turner (or I'm trading down a spot or 2 to get him).

 

[Dought Man]

For some reason as the draft nears, I have been feeling less and less comfortable with the pick. I can't put my finger on it, but I don't feel as certain as I did taking MJD. I do believe Gore and Turner could provide similar production later on in the first round. Could be just overanalyzing, but I would entertain offers to move down a few slots in the first.

I think many people feel like one of these years, MJD is going to slow down and not produce first round numbers in that lackluster offense. I'm in the same boat in my next league, where I sit at the #3 spot. I'm probably gonna take Rice.

 

[LHUCKS]

For some reason as the draft nears, I have been feeling less and less comfortable with the pick. I can't put my finger on it, but I don't feel as certain as I did taking MJD. I do believe Gore and Turner could provide similar production later on in the first round. Could be just overanalyzing, but I would entertain offers to move down a few slots in the first.

I think many people feel like one of these years, MJD is going to slow down and not produce first round numbers in that lackluster offense. I'm in the same boat in my next league, where I sit at the #3 spot. I'm probably gonna take Rice.

I took Rice at #3 in my main league, he is a safer bet for more yards than MJD IMHO...I also think MJD's TDs will decrease and Rice's will increase.MJD's sub 4.0 YPC in the second half of last season scares me.

 

[sjdogs]

In NON PPR, what are the compelling reasons to take Rice over Turner or Gore? I think TD opps will be fewer for Rice but his TDS likely longer ? I get bonus points for length of TD's. Really tough analysis

 

[Deuce'sWild]

MJD has no competition, no McGahee or Westbrook types to take away anything. Gore, Turner, and Rice all have guys who will come in either in short yardage or possibly 3rd downs. I think CJ, MJD, ADP and maybe Steven Jackson are the only guys that qualify for that (possibly Grant). Steven Jackson plays on a terrible offense with rookie QB...MJD is as sure as it gets in fantasy after CJ and ADP.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

In NON PPR, what are the compelling reasons to take Rice over Turner or Gore? I think TD opps will be fewer for Rice but his TDS likely longer ? I get bonus points for length of TD's. Really tough analysis

I think I read somewhere that Turner had the 2nd most carries of 20+ yards LAST YEAR in only 10 full games behind CJ. I will have to try to dig that up...but he's not just a redzone scoring threat.

 

[Dought Man]

In NON PPR, what are the compelling reasons to take Rice over Turner or Gore? I think TD opps will be fewer for Rice but his TDS likely longer ? I get bonus points for length of TD's. Really tough analysis

When I am splitting hairs with RB's, I tend to err on the side of youth. Its a young mans position. The less miles the better, especially when I think guys are close in potential stats. I just like the fact that Rice can break one at any moment. I'm sure it will be frustrating to watch him get pulled inside the 5 yard line, but I'll have to live with it.

 

[LHUCKS]

In NON PPR, what are the compelling reasons to take Rice over Turner or Gore? I think TD opps will be fewer for Rice but his TDS likely longer ? I get bonus points for length of TD's. Really tough analysis

5.3 YPC in his 2nd season...everybody needs to take a step back and appreciate just how good that is for an AFC north division RB.that is off the charts good, this kid has sick upside...and it's an anomaly to have 2000 yards and only 8 TDs...8 is about the smallest number you can get with this kid.

 

[sjdogs]

Youth is a good reason although Turner is lightly used for his career. Turner should get all the goal line work. It is relly splitting hairs.

5.3 ypc awesome as is his td length

 

[LHUCKS]

while we're on the topic, there are arguments for Gore at #3 as well.

1. Gets the redzone TDs and Singletary loves to give the ball to Gore on the goalline.

2. 4.9 YPC, probably the best classic RB in the league

3. Soft, Soft schedule

 

[Northbound Train]

I just landed the 3 pick in a 12 team non-ppr TD heavy keeper league.

With Ray Rice as the only "stud" that was "keeper eligible" I find Turner the Burner appealing at 3...moreso than MJD at this time.

I expect CJ + AP to go 1-2 which will leave me with MJD, Turner or Gore as viable 3 hole selections. I didn't keep a RB so must land uber TD machine at 3.

 

[rizzler]

hells yes turner at 4;

my reasons can be found in various threads

 

[sjdogs]

LHUCKS

I agree about Gore but westy signing torubles me for my first round pick even if it impacts him slightly

that schedule is something though, very close

 

[cjack]

MJD has no competition, no McGahee or Westbrook types to take away anything. Gore, Turner, and Rice all have guys who will come in either in short yardage or possibly 3rd downs. I think CJ, MJD, ADP and maybe Steven Jackson are the only guys that qualify for that (possibly Grant). Steven Jackson plays on a terrible offense with rookie QB...MJD is as sure as it gets in fantasy after CJ and ADP.

MJD has competition from Jack Del Rio. MJD will lose carries because Del Rio doesn't know how to use him effectively. Well, that, and the fact that Jacksonville in slowing circling the drain.

 

[LHUCKS]

LHUCKSI agree about Gore but westy signing torubles me for my first round pick even if it impacts him slightlythat schedule is something though, very close

Westbrook is not going to eat into Gores numbers IMHO...maybe 5-10 receptions, tops IMHO.SF needed some depth at the position, that's all really.

 

[LHUCKS]

MJD has no competition, no McGahee or Westbrook types to take away anything. Gore, Turner, and Rice all have guys who will come in either in short yardage or possibly 3rd downs. I think CJ, MJD, ADP and maybe Steven Jackson are the only guys that qualify for that (possibly Grant). Steven Jackson plays on a terrible offense with rookie QB...MJD is as sure as it gets in fantasy after CJ and ADP.

MJD has competition from Jack Del Rio. MJD will lose carries because Del Rio doesn't know how to use him effectively. Well, that, and the fact that Jacksonville in slowing circling the drain.

Guy has no clue how to use him.

 

[Rovers]

I got Turner at 11 in a PPR league. I think he's being undervalued in PPR leagues... he'll never be a R Rice, but he is making some catches in preseason and the Falcons have stated they want him more involved in pass catching this year.

 

[omally]

I got Turner at 11 in a PPR league. I think he's being undervalued in PPR leagues... he'll never be a R Rice, but he is making some catches in preseason and the Falcons have stated they want him more involved in pass catching this year.

I think he makes up in touchdowns what he lacks in receptions.

 

[Abstract]

I have the 4th pick in my non ppr, 12 team league and I decided about a week ago I'm taking Gore. He's in the prime of his career and his schedule is cake.

 

[mozzy84]

MJD has no competition, no McGahee or Westbrook types to take away anything. Gore, Turner, and Rice all have guys who will come in either in short yardage or possibly 3rd downs. I think CJ, MJD, ADP and maybe Steven Jackson are the only guys that qualify for that (possibly Grant). Steven Jackson plays on a terrible offense with rookie QB...MJD is as sure as it gets in fantasy after CJ and ADP.

MJD has competition from Jack Del Rio. MJD will lose carries because Del Rio doesn't know how to use him effectively. Well, that, and the fact that Jacksonville in slowing circling the drain.

even last year when he was the man it was almost equally frustrating as previous years.

 

[nysportsfan]

I wouldn't take him over MJD, simply because MJD is capable of what Turner is, and then adds another element in the rec game. However, Rice has a TD vulture, and has only had one good year. Turner was on a similar pace as 2008 last year and Mularky isn't going to change his philosophy, they will run the rock!I like Turner after CJ, ADP, MJD.I am a little shocked by how much Gore has dropped because of the Westy signing. I can see him landing in my lap at #6. A month ago he was talked about being a top 3 pick over MJD.

Agreed on Gore. He dropped to 8th last night.I see Turner as safe as a bet you can have barring injury. Dude is a bellcow. 1500-14+

 

[mt-wabo]

I appreciate all the input on this thread about my thoughts regarding Turner, he seems to be the tanks consensus at 4 over Rice and I cant seem to find a reason to not agree with the tanks opinion.

 

[LHUCKS]

I appreciate all the input on this thread about my thoughts regarding Turner, he seems to be the tanks consensus at 4 over Rice and I cant seem to find a reason to not agree with the tanks opinion.

um no

 

[CamelGod]

I appreciate all the input on this thread about my thoughts regarding Turner, he seems to be the tanks consensus at 4 over Rice and I cant seem to find a reason to not agree with the tanks opinion.

I didn't read a consensus; however, I am reading enough validation on the gut feeling you already had, which is all that matters.

 

[Tanner9919]

Turner at #4 in non PPR seems legit..

I'd also consider Ryan Mathews, the kid is going to be a beast, and SD plays a very favorable schedule..he has no TD vulture to worry about, no competition, he's is the #1 guy in a very,very potent SD offense

it takes some cajones to pick a rookie at #4, but this kid is the real deal...

 

[rizzler]

Turner at #4 in non PPR seems legit..I'd also consider Ryan Mathews, the kid is going to be a beast, and SD plays a very favorable schedule..he has no TD vulture to worry about, no competition, he's is the #1 guy in a very,very potent SD offense it takes some cajones to pick a rookie at #4, but this kid is the real deal...

why 'swing for the fences' at the number 4 spot? you have a plethora of 'safe' picks that have been proven to carry a full NFL load and can put up monster numbers... ill leave mathews for the mid to late 2nd round

 

[CamelGod]

Turner at #4 in non PPR seems legit..I'd also consider Ryan Mathews, the kid is going to be a beast, and SD plays a very favorable schedule..he has no TD vulture to worry about, no competition, he's is the #1 guy in a very,very potent SD offense it takes some cajones to pick a rookie at #4, but this kid is the real deal...

During the Dallas game, Matthews didn't convert on two opps within the 3 yard line before rivers ran it in himself. Tolbert has been looking like he'll take a lot of the goal line carries in SD.That said, I do think he's a beast, but I'm tempering my expectations a little and will grab him mid round 2.

 

[JaYz0618]

while we're on the topic, there are arguments for Gore at #3 as well.1. Gets the redzone TDs and Singletary loves to give the ball to Gore on the goalline.2. 4.9 YPC, probably the best classic RB in the league3. Soft, Soft schedule

Gore couldnt hold Adrian Petersons jockstrap to be honest, dont know what about AP's game you view as unclassical, but he is far and away a better RB then Gore.

 

[RICK ROMO]

I got Turner at 11 in a PPR league. I think he's being undervalued in PPR leagues... he'll never be a R Rice, but he is making some catches in preseason and the Falcons have stated they want him more involved in pass catching this year.

I think he makes up in touchdowns what he lacks in receptions.

That's why im thinking about taking Turner at the 5 spot over Gore in my ppr league.