Michael Turner (2 Viewers)

[Renegades of Funk]

Turner's contract is up after the 2006 season. I am going to assume LT stays healthy and remains one of the top backs in the game. Does SD tender Turner high enough to avoid other teams picking him up to be their feature back. Turner reminds me of how patience paid off with Lamont Jordan. Guess what I'm getting at is does Turner get his chance in 2007 or 2008 to feature on another team?

 

[Bloom]

I honestly can't see a scenario where he doesn't get a chance to start somewhere else unless his agent is a moron. He's got a great low center of gravity/thick build of a power runner, yet he has the fifth gear of a scatback. I think he could outproduce at least 5 or 10 guys who are feature backs right now if he took over their jobs.

 

[Biabreakable]

There is a serious glut of quality Rbs in the league right now. However several of those Rbs are aging which may open opportunity for Turner to become a starter for another team in 2007.

I think he has the talent to be a successful all purpose Rb if given the opportunity.

 

[Chaos Commish]

I think he could outproduce at least 5 or 10 guys who are feature backs right now if he took over their jobs.

I think 5-10 is a very conservative estimate. Turner is really good.

 

[Renegades of Funk]

I am not on top of RFA and URFA tags / etc. So what I'm wondering is historically would the Chargers give him a tender next year to keep other teams from scooping him up. Is it common for teams to give a good tender offer to a RB when they already have a stud? If they do tender him for 2007 does that mean he is a URFA in 2008?

 

[replacements]

I think he could outproduce at least 5 or 10 guys who are feature backs right now if he took over their jobs.

I think 5-10 is a very conservative estimate. Turner is really good.

I agree with that 100%. This kid seems to have the physical ability to ba a top 5rb if given the chance.He has a rare combo of great power and speed.I'm interested to see what he can do in a complete season.

 

[Renegades of Funk]

Was trying to think of recent similar situations to Turner.

Chester Taylor got 2 million last year. Was this a high RFA tender that stopped Cleveland from taking him?

Was Lamont Jordan stuck with NJY for an extra year due to a high RFA tender?

Maybe Micheal Turner doesn't hit until 2008?

 

[Bears_Man2]

I'd like him to be starting somewhere, but where exactly is he going to start??

I will assume Adrian Peterson, Lynch of Cal, and possibly Michael Bush will add to the already saturated RB market + the 4 guys in this draft who look to be possible RB's of the future of their particular squads (Bush, Williams, White , Maroney).

I just don't see him being given a starting job. Perhaps he could go somewhere and get the job after a primary RB's injury.

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Well the # of RB position that could open up by 2007 is greater than I thought (14 spots -- marked by ***), but consider at least 7 spots IMO taken by Bush,D.Williams,L.White, L.Maroney, A.Peterson, M.Lynch of Cal, M.Bush of Louisville + 1 spot to Chester Taylor + these 8 players: Barber/Parker/Bell/Droughns/A.Green/F.Taylor/C.Brown/perhaps Gore you can't guarantee they aren't capable of holding down starting positions for the next couple years......and there you have 16 spots (with what looks like 14 spots that 'could' be opening from now to the end of the 2006 season).

And that's not taking into account someone from this 2006 or 2007 draft classes really emerging (Calhoun? Drew? Addai?). I'm sure I probably missed someone as well.

Arizona: Arrington ***

Atlanta: Dunn, Duckett ***

Baltimore: J.Lewis, C.Taylor ***

Chicago: T. Jones, C. Benson

Cincinatti: R.Johnson, C.Perry

Cleveland: R.Droughns ***

Dallas: J. Jones, M. Barber

Denver: M. Anderson, T. Bell ***

Detroit: K. Jones

Green Bay: A.Green ***

Houston: Davis

Jacksonville: F.Taylor ***

Kansas City: L.Johnson

Miami: R. Brown

Minnesota: M.Moore, M.Bennett ***

New England: Dillon ***

New Orleans: Deuce

New York Giants: Barber ***

New York Jets: C.Martin ***

Oakland: L.Jordan

Philadelphia: B.Westbrook

Pittsburgh: Parker, Staley ***

San Diego: Tomlinson

San Francisco: Gore, Barlow ***

Seattle: S.Alexander

St. Louis: S.Jackson

Tampa Bay: C.Williams

Tennessee: C.Brown ***

Washington: C.Portis

 

[Bri]

I would guess that if Sproles proves he can be a solid backup(just a backup) RB then SD would have to consider letting Turner walk. The prob is, I don't think many people think he is a backup RB. He's a "scatback" that might be sweet on 3rd down but if he got 20 carries in LTs absence...I don't know.

Has Turner been in the NFL long enough to be a UFA? I would guess he's a RFA.

While everyteam needs a good backup RB, there's gotta be a limit a team pays their backup. What it is, I don't know.

 

[Otis]

Turner = Speed

 

[BoltBacker]

I think he could outproduce at least 5 or 10 guys who are feature backs right now if he took over their jobs.

I think 5-10 is a very conservative estimate. Turner is really good.

I agree with that 100%. This kid seems to have the physical ability to ba a top 5rb if given the chance.He has a rare combo of great power and speed.I'm interested to see what he can do in a complete season.

Agreed.I started a thread awhile back and asked why everyone was so interested in Rivers when Turner is the SD backup that could step in right now and be better than a solid starter on most teams. You put Turner in CAR/JAX/BAL and I'd have him ranked between 5-10. It would be a huge chunk of change for SD to franchise or transition him so I'd think some team could trade him from SD cheap right now. In addition to the teams listed above I'd think GB/NYJ/TEN/SF would be crazy not to at least have some interest.

 

[cstu]

I would guess that if Sproles proves he can be a solid backup(just a backup) RB then SD would have to consider letting Turner walk. The prob is, I don't think many people think he is a backup RB. He's a "scatback" that might be sweet on 3rd down but if he got 20 carries in LTs absence...I don't know.

Has Turner been in the NFL long enough to be a UFA? I would guess he's a RFA.

While everyteam needs a good backup RB, there's gotta be a limit a team pays their backup. What it is, I don't know.

He would be a restricted free agent, however I'd be shocked if the Chargers don't at least make a $1.5M qualifying offer to force a team to give up a 1st round pick for him.

Q -- What is the difference between a restricted free agent and an unrestricted free agent?

A -- Players become restricted free agents when they complete three accrued seasons and their contract expires. Unrestricted free agents have completed four or more accrued seasons with an expired contract.

The player's original team maintains the First Refusal Right if the team tenders a contract offer of one year at $685,000 (estimate for 2006) for players with 3 accrued seasons or $725,000 (estimate for 2006) for players with four accrued seasons in uncapped years.

The player's original team maintains the Right of First Refusal and Draft Selection at the Player’s Original Draft Round (from the team with which he signs) if the team tenders an offer of one year at roughly $1 Million (or some different sum to be defined by the league in 2006) OR at least 110% of the player’s prior year’s salary -- whichever is greater.

The player's original team maintains the Right of First Refusal and First Round Draft Selection (from the team with which he signs) if the team tenders an offer of one year at an estimated $1.5 million (or some different sum as defined by the league in 2006) OR at least 110% of the player’s prior year’s salary -- whichever is greater.

The player's original team maintains the Right of First Refusal and First Round Draft Selection and Third Round Draft Selection (both from the team with which he signs) if the team tenders an offer of one year at $2 million (or some different sum as defined by the league in 2006) OR at least 110% of the player's prior year’s salary -- whichever is greater.

 

[Pots]

Didn't Jesse Chatman average 6 ypc ahead of Turner in 2004 as LT's breather? He left San Diego last year and what has become of him? Buried in the depth chart in New Orleans behind Stecker and Antwain Smith.

 

[Balco]

I think he could outproduce at least 5 or 10 guys who are feature backs right now if he took over their jobs.

I think 5-10 is a very conservative estimate. Turner is really good.

For some reason, every time I see Turner run, I think "Lewis Tillman". Lamont Jordan is a better running back than Michael Turner.

 

[BoltBacker]

Didn't Jesse Chatman average 6 ypc ahead of Turner in 2004 as LT's breather? He left San Diego last year and what has become of him?

He nearly ate himself out of the league?

 

[BoltBacker]

Lamont Jordan is a better running back than Michael Turner.

Lamont Jordan is a top ten back.

 

[Otis]

Lamont Jordan is a better running back than Michael Turner.

Lamont Jordan is a top ten back.

 

[Lauryn]

Lamont Jordan is a better running back than Michael Turner.

Lamont Jordan is a top ten back.

 

[slimflop]

M Turner is a good insurance policy for L.T. owners and that's about it.

 

[derek19]

Didn't Jesse Chatman average 6 ypc ahead of Turner in 2004 as LT's breather? He left San Diego last year and what has become of him? Buried in the depth chart in New Orleans behind Stecker and Antwain Smith.

When has he gotten the chance???

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Lamont Jordan is a better running back than Michael Turner.

Lamont Jordan is a top ten back.

At this point in his career and going into next year L. Jordan is close to being a top 10 back not just in fantasy but in real as well. I don't think this is laughable.

 

[cstu]

Didn't Jesse Chatman average 6 ypc ahead of Turner in 2004 as LT's breather? He left San Diego last year and what has become of him? Buried in the depth chart in New Orleans behind Stecker and Antwain Smith.

When has he gotten the chance???

He was injured, didn't rehab, got fat and got cut by the Chargers. He's talented but nobody wants an out of shape RB.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Lamont Jordan is a better running back than Michael Turner.

Lamont Jordan is a top ten back.

At this point in his career and going into next year L. Jordan is close to being a top 10 back not just in fantasy but in real as well. I don't think this is laughable.

I hope you are kidding....Jordan is not a Top 10 NFL RB (non-fantasy).

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Lamont Jordan is a better running back than Michael Turner.

Lamont Jordan is a top ten back.

At this point in his career and going into next year L. Jordan is close to being a top 10 back not just in fantasy but in real as well. I don't think this is laughable.

I hope you are kidding....Jordan is not a Top 10 NFL RB (non-fantasy).

Says the Jordan hater!Don't want to hi-jack any more, but anyone that put up numbers that Jordan did last season on a team that could not put anything together with a below average O-line deserves top 10 NFL talk. His YPC was low but he backed up his big free agent signing by doing everything that was asked of him by his team and showed he is better then the average NFL back. He has great speed, power, hands, and proved he is an above average blocker last season. He also proved a knack for getting in the end zone and proved to be a better then average goal line back. He is one of those rare everydown backs that are getting more difficult to come by now a days. He does not have one weak thing in his all around game which easily puts him in contention for being a top 10 NFL back.

 

[Bri]

Didn't Jesse Chatman average 6 ypc ahead of Turner in 2004 as LT's breather? He left San Diego last year and what has become of him? Buried in the depth chart in New Orleans behind Stecker and Antwain Smith.

When has he gotten the chance???

did he go to miami first?

 

[toxicbees]

Didn't Jesse Chatman average 6 ypc ahead of Turner in 2004 as LT's breather? He left San Diego last year and what has become of him? Buried in the depth chart in New Orleans behind Stecker and Antwain Smith.

Chatman WAS good, and still may be if he puts in the effort. But if you remember, there were reports that he came to camp overweight, and he didn't rehab properly from his injury. He refused to rehab with the team trainers in the offseason and was showing the effect. So I don't think it's fair to compare the two backs.The Burner could be a stud if on the right team. He has break away speed. When he's gone no one on the field is going to catch him. See his run against Indy last year. He is also as tough a runner as they come, a perfect goal line back. He'll run guys over. It's his low center of gravity that makes him perfect for short yardage. He's not as shifty as LT, but he's got great 1-2 cut combos.

I only wish the Chargers would trade him so he could get a chance this year (I'm a Turner Dynasty owner).

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Lamont Jordan is a better running back than Michael Turner.

Lamont Jordan is a top ten back.

At this point in his career and going into next year L. Jordan is close to being a top 10 back not just in fantasy but in real as well. I don't think this is laughable.

I hope you are kidding....Jordan is not a Top 10 NFL RB (non-fantasy).

Says the Jordan hater!Don't want to hi-jack any more, but anyone that put up numbers that Jordan did last season on a team that could not put anything together with a below average O-line deserves top 10 NFL talk. His YPC was low but he backed up his big free agent signing by doing everything that was asked of him by his team and showed he is better then the average NFL back. He has great speed, power, hands, and proved he is an above average blocker last season. He also proved a knack for getting in the end zone and proved to be a better then average goal line back. He is one of those rare everydown backs that are getting more difficult to come by now a days. He does not have one weak thing in his all around game which easily puts him in contention for being a top 10 NFL back.

I am not a hater...I am realist.Who do you think he is better than in terms of RB skill to be top 10?

-Alexander

-Larry Johnson

-Edge

-LT

-Tiki

-Portis

-S. Jackson

-Deuce

-Rudi

-Carnell

-Ronnie Brown

-Westbrook

-McGahee

I would not put Jordan ahead of any of these guys.

 

[BoltBacker]

I am not a hater...I am realist.

Who do you think he is better than in terms of RB skill to be top 10?

-Alexander

-Larry Johnson

-Edge

-LT

-Tiki

-Portis

-S. Jackson

-Deuce

-Rudi

-Carnell

-Ronnie Brown

-Westbrook

-McGahee

I would not put Jordan ahead of any of these guys.

I respect your opinion and to be honest I was a vocal Curtis Martin supporter, Lamont Jordan hater but he proved to have more talent then I was giving him credit for last season imo.If I was drafting today I'd probably take Lamont over McGahee(no rec), Rudi(I think Perry gets bigger role) and Deuce(first year back from major injury). At the moment he's #10 imo.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Lamont Jordan is a better running back than Michael Turner.

Lamont Jordan is a top ten back.

At this point in his career and going into next year L. Jordan is close to being a top 10 back not just in fantasy but in real as well. I don't think this is laughable.

I hope you are kidding....Jordan is not a Top 10 NFL RB (non-fantasy).

Says the Jordan hater!Don't want to hi-jack any more, but anyone that put up numbers that Jordan did last season on a team that could not put anything together with a below average O-line deserves top 10 NFL talk. His YPC was low but he backed up his big free agent signing by doing everything that was asked of him by his team and showed he is better then the average NFL back. He has great speed, power, hands, and proved he is an above average blocker last season. He also proved a knack for getting in the end zone and proved to be a better then average goal line back. He is one of those rare everydown backs that are getting more difficult to come by now a days. He does not have one weak thing in his all around game which easily puts him in contention for being a top 10 NFL back.

I am not a hater...I am realist.Who do you think he is better than in terms of RB skill to be top 10?

-Alexander

-Larry Johnson

-Edge

-LT

-Tiki

-Portis

-S. Jackson

-Deuce

-Rudi

-Carnell

-Ronnie Brown

-Westbrook

-McGahee

I would not put Jordan ahead of any of these guys.

Going into next season IMO Jordan is as good and a better NFL back right now then these guys here: Rudi

Duece

Carnell

McGahee

Ronnie

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Lamont Jordan is a better running back than Michael Turner.

Lamont Jordan is a top ten back.

At this point in his career and going into next year L. Jordan is close to being a top 10 back not just in fantasy but in real as well. I don't think this is laughable.

I hope you are kidding....Jordan is not a Top 10 NFL RB (non-fantasy).

Says the Jordan hater!Don't want to hi-jack any more, but anyone that put up numbers that Jordan did last season on a team that could not put anything together with a below average O-line deserves top 10 NFL talk. His YPC was low but he backed up his big free agent signing by doing everything that was asked of him by his team and showed he is better then the average NFL back. He has great speed, power, hands, and proved he is an above average blocker last season. He also proved a knack for getting in the end zone and proved to be a better then average goal line back. He is one of those rare everydown backs that are getting more difficult to come by now a days. He does not have one weak thing in his all around game which easily puts him in contention for being a top 10 NFL back.

I am not a hater...I am realist.Who do you think he is better than in terms of RB skill to be top 10?

-Alexander

-Larry Johnson

-Edge

-LT

-Tiki

-Portis

-S. Jackson

-Deuce

-Rudi

-Carnell

-Ronnie Brown

-Westbrook

-McGahee

I would not put Jordan ahead of any of these guys.

Going into next season IMO Jordan is as good and a better NFL back right now then these guys here: Rudi

Duece

Carnell

McGahee

Ronnie

 

[KTM]

Lamont Jordan is a better running back than Michael Turner.

Lamont Jordan is a top ten back.

At this point in his career and going into next year L. Jordan is close to being a top 10 back not just in fantasy but in real as well. I don't think this is laughable.

I hope you are kidding....Jordan is not a Top 10 NFL RB (non-fantasy).

Says the Jordan hater!Don't want to hi-jack any more, but anyone that put up numbers that Jordan did last season on a team that could not put anything together with a below average O-line deserves top 10 NFL talk. His YPC was low but he backed up his big free agent signing by doing everything that was asked of him by his team and showed he is better then the average NFL back. He has great speed, power, hands, and proved he is an above average blocker last season. He also proved a knack for getting in the end zone and proved to be a better then average goal line back. He is one of those rare everydown backs that are getting more difficult to come by now a days. He does not have one weak thing in his all around game which easily puts him in contention for being a top 10 NFL back.

I am not a hater...I am realist.Who do you think he is better than in terms of RB skill to be top 10?

-Alexander

-Larry Johnson

-Edge

-LT

-Tiki

-Portis

-S. Jackson

-Deuce

-Rudi

-Carnell

-Ronnie Brown

-Westbrook

-McGahee

I would not put Jordan ahead of any of these guys.

Going into next season IMO Jordan is as good and a better NFL back right now then these guys here: Rudi

Duece

Carnell

McGahee

Ronnie

Deuce and McGahee I can understand somewhat because of the knee issues, but I don't think he's on par or better than Caddy/Ronnie/Rudi...

 

[nightshift]

Lamont Jordan is a better running back than Michael Turner.

Lamont Jordan is a top ten back.

At this point in his career and going into next year L. Jordan is close to being a top 10 back not just in fantasy but in real as well. I don't think this is laughable.

I hope you are kidding....Jordan is not a Top 10 NFL RB (non-fantasy).

Says the Jordan hater!Don't want to hi-jack any more, but anyone that put up numbers that Jordan did last season on a team that could not put anything together with a below average O-line deserves top 10 NFL talk. His YPC was low but he backed up his big free agent signing by doing everything that was asked of him by his team and showed he is better then the average NFL back. He has great speed, power, hands, and proved he is an above average blocker last season. He also proved a knack for getting in the end zone and proved to be a better then average goal line back. He is one of those rare everydown backs that are getting more difficult to come by now a days. He does not have one weak thing in his all around game which easily puts him in contention for being a top 10 NFL back.

I am not a hater...I am realist.Who do you think he is better than in terms of RB skill to be top 10?

-Alexander

-Larry Johnson

-Edge

-LT

-Tiki

-Portis

-S. Jackson

-Deuce

-Rudi

-Carnell

-Ronnie Brown

-Westbrook

-McGahee

I would not put Jordan ahead of any of these guys.

Going into next season IMO Jordan is as good and a better NFL back right now then these guys here: Rudi

Duece

Carnell

McGahee

Ronnie

Turner, given the opportunity, is better than those 5, too. He has the ability and he's been learning from one of the best.

 

[Otis]

Lamont Jordan is a better running back than Michael Turner.

Lamont Jordan is a top ten back.

At this point in his career and going into next year L. Jordan is close to being a top 10 back not just in fantasy but in real as well. I don't think this is laughable.

I hope you are kidding....Jordan is not a Top 10 NFL RB (non-fantasy).

Says the Jordan hater!Don't want to hi-jack any more, but anyone that put up numbers that Jordan did last season on a team that could not put anything together with a below average O-line deserves top 10 NFL talk. His YPC was low but he backed up his big free agent signing by doing everything that was asked of him by his team and showed he is better then the average NFL back. He has great speed, power, hands, and proved he is an above average blocker last season. He also proved a knack for getting in the end zone and proved to be a better then average goal line back. He is one of those rare everydown backs that are getting more difficult to come by now a days. He does not have one weak thing in his all around game which easily puts him in contention for being a top 10 NFL back.

I am not a hater...I am realist.Who do you think he is better than in terms of RB skill to be top 10?

-Alexander

-Larry Johnson

-Edge

-LT

-Tiki

-Portis

-S. Jackson

-Deuce

-Rudi

-Carnell

-Ronnie Brown

-Westbrook

-McGahee

I would not put Jordan ahead of any of these guys.

Going into next season IMO Jordan is as good and a better NFL back right now then these guys here: Rudi

Duece

Carnell

McGahee

Ronnie

Seriously. Lamont Jordan doesn't have half the talent of some of the guys on the list above. Literally, not half.And there are other guys who are better NFL RBs than Jordan who aren't even on the list above (i.e., Thomas Jones).

Jordan is a very, very average NFL running back. I'm sorry.

 

[MLBrandow]

Turner's contract is up after the 2006 season.  I am going to assume LT stays healthy and remains one of the top backs in the game.  Does SD tender Turner high enough to avoid other teams picking him up to be their feature back.  Turner reminds me of how patience paid off with Lamont Jordan.  Guess what I'm getting at is does Turner get his chance in 2007 or 2008 to feature on another team?

Not to be anal but it's Michael, with an AE not EA.Pretty much the only people whose names are spelled with EA are the direct offspring of people like you who went their whole lives ignorant of how to properly spell the name.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Lamont Jordan is a better running back than Michael Turner.

Lamont Jordan is a top ten back.

At this point in his career and going into next year L. Jordan is close to being a top 10 back not just in fantasy but in real as well. I don't think this is laughable.

I hope you are kidding....Jordan is not a Top 10 NFL RB (non-fantasy).

Says the Jordan hater!Don't want to hi-jack any more, but anyone that put up numbers that Jordan did last season on a team that could not put anything together with a below average O-line deserves top 10 NFL talk. His YPC was low but he backed up his big free agent signing by doing everything that was asked of him by his team and showed he is better then the average NFL back. He has great speed, power, hands, and proved he is an above average blocker last season. He also proved a knack for getting in the end zone and proved to be a better then average goal line back. He is one of those rare everydown backs that are getting more difficult to come by now a days. He does not have one weak thing in his all around game which easily puts him in contention for being a top 10 NFL back.

I am not a hater...I am realist.Who do you think he is better than in terms of RB skill to be top 10?

-Alexander

-Larry Johnson

-Edge

-LT

-Tiki

-Portis

-S. Jackson

-Deuce

-Rudi

-Carnell

-Ronnie Brown

-Westbrook

-McGahee

I would not put Jordan ahead of any of these guys.

Going into next season IMO Jordan is as good and a better NFL back right now then these guys here: Rudi

Duece

Carnell

McGahee

Ronnie

Seriously. Lamont Jordan doesn't have half the talent of some of the guys on the list above. Literally, not half.And there are other guys who are better NFL RBs than Jordan who aren't even on the list above (i.e., Thomas Jones).

Jordan is a very, very average NFL running back. I'm sorry.

How is Thomas Jones better???? Please expalin to me.Giving you talent does not make you a top 10 back and right now some of these guys on this list may be more talented but that does not make them better NFL RB's.

 

[Bloom]

Carter, Frenzy - will you guys just get a room? You know you are really madly in love each other deep down inside.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

On Jesse Chatman: He generally played better than he "should" have, meaning that his stats outpaced his physical talent. He didn't have great quickness or speed, but he always seemed to find the hole and get through it. Good power and balance. Nice change-of-pace back, but I don't know if he was explosive enough to be a successful starter. I guess we'll never find out. He ballooned up to 260, which is not a good playing weight for him.

On Michael Turner: He appears to be the real deal. He's got all the power and balance of Chatman -- more, actually -- but also has breakaway speed. He's not very elusive. But he has decent burst through the line and deceptive straight-line speed. He has a low center of gravity and gains lots of yards after contact. I do think he could be a successful starter if given the chance. The comparisons to Lamont Jordan may be about right.

On Lamont Jordan: He's definitely an NFL starter, but not top ten IMO (non-fantasy).

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Jordan will again prove not only his fantasy doubters wrong this year but he will prove how good he actually is as an NFL back this year. Putting up 1600 combined yards and double digit TD's in his first season as a starter in only 14 games was extremely good. People still have this notion that he was only a back up RB, but in actuality he was drafted in the 2nd round and got stuck playing behind a HOF rb. The guy has serious game and will prove why he should be considered as one of the top 10 backs in the league.

 

[Bears_Man2]

You honestly believe Lamont Jordan is better NFL running back right now than Thomas Jones??? Yikes.

 

[Bears_Man2]

On Lamont Jordan: He's definitely an NFL starter, but not top ten IMO (non-fantasy).

 

[Otis]

You honestly believe Lamont Jordan is better NFL running back right now than Thomas Jones??? Yikes.

I don't even think this is close, but I've been a huge Thomas Jones supporter for many years, so maybe I'm just biased.

 

[LawFitz]

You honestly believe Lamont Jordan is better NFL running back right now than Thomas Jones??? Yikes.

This is too funny. Last offseason was my first on this message board and my very first posting was about why Thomas Jones was getting no luv from the Bears with their recent drafting of Ced Benson. I got flamed all kinds from so many different posters calling TJ a bum and a loser who wasn't anywhere near the same class as CB. My how times have changed.Now all of a sudden, people are gaffed at placing a guy who had 11 TDs and 1600 total yards in 14 games at or above TJ. What a joke.

Both LJ and TJ are solid RBs. Whether someone is rated top ten or not is a fickle exercise that seems to change tremendously with the winds of each season.

Lamont Jordan has good speed, good hands and a leader mentality. His vision reading blocks is so so, his power is not what it should be given his size and his blocking ability got better as last season wore on and should now be considered an asset.

Like another poster said, he is average to above average in every category a RB is graded on. He is very arguably a top ten RB, but it's obviously relative based on other RBs and the teams they all play on in a given year.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

You honestly believe Lamont Jordan is better NFL running back right now than Thomas Jones??? Yikes.

This is too funny. Last offseason was my first on this message board and my very first posting was about why Thomas Jones was getting no luv from the Bears with their recent drafting of Ced Benson. I got flamed all kinds from so many different posters calling TJ a bum and a loser who wasn't anywhere near the same class as CB. My how times have changed.Now all of a sudden, people are gaffed at placing a guy who had 11 TDs and 1600 total yards in 14 games at or above TJ. What a joke.

Both LJ and TJ are solid RBs. Whether someone is rated top ten or not is a fickle exercise that seems to change tremendously with the winds of each season.

Lamont Jordan has good speed, good hands and a leader mentality. His vision reading blocks is so so, his power is not what it should be given his size and his blocking ability got better as last season wore on and should now be considered an asset.

Like another poster said, he is average to above average in every category a RB is graded on. He is very arguably a top ten RB, but it's obviously relative based on other RBs and the teams they all play on in a given year.

I think more then anything if you don't think he is a top 10 back in which this topic could always be debated, he at least should be considered as a top 10 RB. As of what took place last year he deserves this just as much as the next guy heading into next season. Not only fantasy, but NFL as well.

 

[-OZ-]

Someone needs to change the title. I thought this was supposed to be about Michael Turner, not Lamont Jordan vs. Thomas Jones.

FWIW, Jordan is a fair comparison.

Personally, I like Turner simply because I have LT in 2 out of 3 leagues, and he (1) provides insurance now and (2) gives me a future starter.

Whether or not he's a future top 10... I don't see it, but a future starter, sure. There's just too many other "future top 10" RBs.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Lamont Jordan is a better running back than Michael Turner.

Lamont Jordan is a top ten back.

At this point in his career and going into next year L. Jordan is close to being a top 10 back not just in fantasy but in real as well. I don't think this is laughable.

I hope you are kidding....Jordan is not a Top 10 NFL RB (non-fantasy).

Says the Jordan hater!Don't want to hi-jack any more, but anyone that put up numbers that Jordan did last season on a team that could not put anything together with a below average O-line deserves top 10 NFL talk. His YPC was low but he backed up his big free agent signing by doing everything that was asked of him by his team and showed he is better then the average NFL back. He has great speed, power, hands, and proved he is an above average blocker last season. He also proved a knack for getting in the end zone and proved to be a better then average goal line back. He is one of those rare everydown backs that are getting more difficult to come by now a days. He does not have one weak thing in his all around game which easily puts him in contention for being a top 10 NFL back.

I am not a hater...I am realist.Who do you think he is better than in terms of RB skill to be top 10?

-Alexander

-Larry Johnson

-Edge

-LT

-Tiki

-Portis

-S. Jackson

-Deuce

-Rudi

-Carnell

-Ronnie Brown

-Westbrook

-McGahee

I would not put Jordan ahead of any of these guys.

Going into next season IMO Jordan is as good and a better NFL back right now then these guys here: Rudi

Duece

Carnell

McGahee

Ronnie

I apologize to the Michael turner folks, but Friday deserves to be put in place here. He is laughing at some others and it just is not justified. It is close enough that both sides have merit and Friday should NOT be making light of Lamont the way he is. In my opinion that is poor posting and shows a lack of perspective (even if he MAY be right) Any way you slice it, Lamont finished 7th or 8th last year depending on ppr leagues so how can it be laughable that he is a top 10 back? Now if you are talking REAL football that changes things somewhat. however, you could argue he is in the 8-14 range for one year. There are a lot of factors though, are you talking about a real football team having a player for one year or the next 4 years? Assuming you took a neutral team with average OL playing outdoors, how would you rank your RB's? This would change your perspective on a lot of guys. I thik Edge is very shifty and has amazing balance, but what will it be like for him to run against 7-8 man fronts rather than against the nickel and dime defenses he sees now? Many people always felt that S. Alexander isn't near a top 5 back in ability, but has an amazing OL helping him.

Point is that opinion is just that, but Friday Frenzy deserves to be flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct and is clearly wrong from a fantasy perspective and a good discussion away from being right about real ability.

For the record, if I am starting a team now and it is in a neutral situation I have Lamont ranked about 11 (from 9-13). I don't see how anyone thinks Steven Jackson has more talent that Lamont with the exception of youth. I would also take Lamont over Rudi Johnson as he can catch the ball. Tiki gets knocked down because he is older and not a power back (if younger would be ahead of Lamont. The jury is out on Ronnie Brown, Caddy (could be an injury risk) and Julius Jones (see caddy). That being said someone might want to roll the dice on Kevin Jones? I just wanted to get on record

 

[thayman]

I think Turner could be a great back. Of course, we haven't got to see a whole lot of him. I've been handcuffing him to LT2 for the past few years, hoping for a LJ/Priest situation to develop in SD

 

[bumpman]

I think Turner could be a great back. Of course, we haven't got to see a whole lot of him. I've been handcuffing him to LT2 for the past few years, hoping for a LJ/Priest situation to develop in SD

Why in the world would you want to go from having one elite RB to a RBBC? I think you probably mean you are hoping to this will develop into a Ricky Williams/Deuce situation?

 

[thayman]

I think Turner could be a great back.  Of course, we haven't got to see a whole lot of him.  I've been handcuffing him to LT2 for the past few years, hoping for a LJ/Priest situation to develop in SD

Why in the world would you want to go from having one elite RB to a RBBC? I think you probably mean you are hoping to this will develop into a Ricky Williams/Deuce situation?

Meaning LT2 fade off into the sunset, while Turner takes over as another top 3 RB.

 

[-OZ-]

I think Turner could be a great back. Of course, we haven't got to see a whole lot of him. I've been handcuffing him to LT2 for the past few years, hoping for a LJ/Priest situation to develop in SD

Why in the world would you want to go from having one elite RB to a RBBC? I think you probably mean you are hoping to this will develop into a Ricky Williams/Deuce situation?

Meaning LT2 fade off into the sunset, while Turner takes over as another top 3 RB.

Huge difference, LJ was drafted when priest only had a couple years left.LT (I hope anyway) has 5-6 more years at a high level.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Some Michael Turner highlights.