Michael Turner (1 Viewer)

[mikel0254]

Obviously, I know this is early, but where do you see Michael Turner's value going into next season? After a 49-yard run, and a 74-yard TD run yesterday, it just shows what the guy is capable of. I know it all depends on which team he lands on, but could this guy be a top 10/top 15 overall going into next season?

The reason I ask, is b/c I have him in a keeper league, and people are starting to ask to trade for him...and I don't know what he is worth

I have him, Palmer, LJ, ADP, Maroney, Henry, Steve Smith ----> I can only keep 2 for next year, and I'm pretty much trying to figure out if he will be better than the previously listed players in 2008 (pretty sure I'm keeping ADP if he keeps it up - and keeps healthy)

 

[zamboni]

I know this is early

It's actually kind of late if you saw the behemoth thread this past offseason.Seriously though, as long as he's healthy, he's going to have no shortage of suitors for his services. And considering that there may several teams looking for a new feature back, with seemingly not many good veteran RBs as competition (maybe Julius Jones), the supply/demand dynamics may work nicely in his favor.

 

[Harry Beanbag]

Okay, I'll play.

I am also in a keeper league (keep 2) and have held LT for years. Last year I drafted Burner as a handcuff but also on the outside shot he would get snatched up as a RFA this past off season. He did not so I did not hold him over but reached a bit more for him in the draft to not only have the LT handcuff again but knowing he will be gone in 2008 and would be a potential keeper for me.

I WOUlD NOT trade him at all. Yes, it all depends on the team he goes to but he should command a pretty high asking price in the free agent market next year. Teams do not pay through the nose for a good RB and not plan to feed him the ball all day. Turner is a legit first round fantasy pick and should not last the second round no matter what team he goes to.

 

[mikel0254]

I WOUlD NOT trade him at all. Yes, it all depends on the team he goes to but he should command a pretty high asking price in the free agent market next year. Teams do not pay through the nose for a good RB and not plan to feed him the ball all day. Turner is a legit first round fantasy pick and should not last the second round no matter what team he goes to.

This is pretty much exactly what I wanted to hear!

 

[bumpman]

Whether Turner ends up being a better keeper than those other players you listed depends almost entirely on where he ends up. If Denver signs him, he should be one of your two keepers. If Cleveland signs him, or he ends up in a clear RBBC situation with another high quality back (Detroit?) . . . tough call, but at least you can trade him.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I drafted him in the mid 5th this yr in a dynasty... and have gotten plenty of offers... so I'm in the same boat; I kind of want to move him before he plays next yr.

Turner will be 26 yrs old when next season starts... so how long can you expect him to produce.. 3 or 4 yrs...

I believe his situation is going to be very similar to Lamont Jordan's...

Personally; I'm going to move him for a high draft pick next yr or a younger back who under-performed this season.

 

[perry147]

This year's draft is going to be very RB strong and some of MT's potential suitors will be drafting a RB instead of signing him because of the money he will command being a FA.

 

[kupcho1]

Personally; I'm going to move him for a high draft pick next yr or a younger back who under-performed this season.

So you'd trade him for Benson.

 

[bumpman]

I drafted him in the mid 5th this yr in a dynasty... and have gotten plenty of offers... so I'm in the same boat; I kind of want to move him before he plays next yr.Turner will be 26 yrs old when next season starts... so how long can you expect him to produce.. 3 or 4 yrs...I believe his situation is going to be very similar to Lamont Jordan's... Personally; I'm going to move him for a high draft pick next yr or a younger back who under-performed this season.

So, you would rather trade a guy who has performed at a high level in the league for an unproven player out of the draft or an underperforming, but younger RB? Are you always looking for potential over present performance? Or are you just not a believer in Mikey Turner? Four years is a lot of performance from an RB, about the same as what you will get after your younger back finally establishes himself and realizes his "potential" (if he ever does). Why wait?

 

[KellysHeroes]

I drafted him in the mid 5th this yr in a dynasty... and have gotten plenty of offers... so I'm in the same boat; I kind of want to move him before he plays next yr.Turner will be 26 yrs old when next season starts... so how long can you expect him to produce.. 3 or 4 yrs...I believe his situation is going to be very similar to Lamont Jordan's... Personally; I'm going to move him for a high draft pick next yr or a younger back who under-performed this season.

So, you would rather trade a guy who has performed at a high level in the league for an unproven player out of the draft or an underperforming, but younger RB? Are you always looking for potential over present performance? Or are you just not a believer in Mikey Turner? Four years is a lot of performance from an RB, about the same as what you will get after your younger back finally establishes himself and realizes his "potential" (if he ever does). Why wait?

at a high level... what has the guy done???? besides take the rock from LT2 when hes done crushing Defenses.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Personally; I'm going to move him for a high draft pick next yr or a younger back who under-performed this season.

So you'd trade him for Benson.

I'm targeting 3 RBs with Turner... Benson isn't one of them.

 

[mozzy84]

I drafted him in the mid 5th this yr in a dynasty... and have gotten plenty of offers... so I'm in the same boat; I kind of want to move him before he plays next yr.Turner will be 26 yrs old when next season starts... so how long can you expect him to produce.. 3 or 4 yrs...I believe his situation is going to be very similar to Lamont Jordan's... Personally; I'm going to move him for a high draft pick next yr or a younger back who under-performed this season.

So, you would rather trade a guy who has performed at a high level in the league for an unproven player out of the draft or an underperforming, but younger RB? Are you always looking for potential over present performance? Or are you just not a believer in Mikey Turner? Four years is a lot of performance from an RB, about the same as what you will get after your younger back finally establishes himself and realizes his "potential" (if he ever does). Why wait?

at a high level... what has the guy done???? besides take the rock from LT2 when hes done crushing Defenses.

I love this angle

 

[kupcho1]

I drafted him in the mid 5th this yr in a dynasty... and have gotten plenty of offers... so I'm in the same boat; I kind of want to move him before he plays next yr.Turner will be 26 yrs old when next season starts... so how long can you expect him to produce.. 3 or 4 yrs...I believe his situation is going to be very similar to Lamont Jordan's... Personally; I'm going to move him for a high draft pick next yr or a younger back who under-performed this season.

So, you would rather trade a guy who has performed at a high level in the league for an unproven player out of the draft or an underperforming, but younger RB? Are you always looking for potential over present performance? Or are you just not a believer in Mikey Turner? Four years is a lot of performance from an RB, about the same as what you will get after your younger back finally establishes himself and realizes his "potential" (if he ever does). Why wait?

at a high level... what has the guy done???? besides take the rock from LT2 when hes done crushing Defenses.

Wait a minute, you're asking what Turner's done when you're on record as preferring "a younger back who under-performed" - which I would assume means did zilch. Or "a high draft pick" which equates to someone that's not played in the league (i.e., has done nothing).Brilliant!Seriously, though, if you want to denigrate or ignore what Turner's done in limited action, go right ahead. But there's better rationale for doing so.

 

[zamboni]

I drafted him in the mid 5th this yr in a dynasty... and have gotten plenty of offers... so I'm in the same boat; I kind of want to move him before he plays next yr.Turner will be 26 yrs old when next season starts... so how long can you expect him to produce.. 3 or 4 yrs...I believe his situation is going to be very similar to Lamont Jordan's... Personally; I'm going to move him for a high draft pick next yr or a younger back who under-performed this season.

So, you would rather trade a guy who has performed at a high level in the league for an unproven player out of the draft or an underperforming, but younger RB? Are you always looking for potential over present performance? Or are you just not a believer in Mikey Turner? Four years is a lot of performance from an RB, about the same as what you will get after your younger back finally establishes himself and realizes his "potential" (if he ever does). Why wait?

at a high level... what has the guy done???? besides take the rock from LT2 when hes done crushing Defenses.

He's performed well in the past when LT was banged up in meaningful games (check out his game-winning run against the then-undefeated Colts a few years ago). But more importantly, my most accounts, NFL GMs seem A-OK with what he's done and what he can do.

 

[kupcho1]

Personally; I'm going to move him for a high draft pick next yr or a younger back who under-performed this season.

So you'd trade him for Benson.

I'm targeting 3 RBs with Turner... Benson isn't one of them.

If they are underperformers, then I'm guessing that they are outside the top 24 (conventional scoring). Could it be:1. DeAngelo Williams2. Maurice Jones-Drew3. Laurence MaroneyI'm assuming that Larry Johnson, Steven Jackson are not going to be dealt for Turner.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

what has the guy done????

He's run pretty good.

 

[Otis]

what has the guy done????

He's run pretty good.

Maurile>please leave reason out of this.Thanks,O

 

[perry147]

Michael turner will be 26 years old at the end of this season. (2/13/2008).

This is about the age that RB's hit their prime.

Some people will say that he will be getting old in a few years - but remember age is relative. He has very limited carries on his legs. He has been in the NFL long enough that he odds of him being a bust like a rookie will be limited.

 

[KellysHeroes]

don't get me wrong... I'm saying hes a must trade... its just my opinion on the matter... and I'm only moving him if the deal is good.

If I can't move him for the $$ I want; I'm perfectly happy with playing him.

 

[zamboni]

It's highly doubtful that either team would do such a deal, but I'm wondering if Gruden & Co. are even thinking of making a move for Turner.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I own Turner and there is no way in the world I'm trading him. I think he has stud potential.

 

[mikel0254]

I own Turner and there is no way in the world I'm trading him. I think he has stud potential.

But look at my situation...I have LJ, Palmer, Henry, ADP, Maroney, and Steve Smith. I can keep 2. Do you THINK Turner could end up going into next season ranked higher than those listed before, and warrent a keeper spot (most likely alongside ADP). Can Turner be more valuable than LJ? If not, I might as well get something for him now while I can (draft picks), instead of throwing him back into the draft pool. If so, I will hold him for sure. I just don't know too much about the guy, and need your inputDon't know if this is getting too specific, but it might belong in Assistant Coach

 

[Loan Sharks]

Eh, I'm in the minority but I don't like Turner. I'd sell him. Just my opinion.

I have a bias against backups who people think when they get their shot are bust out studs. I think it is more likely that back ups don't become studs, sure it happens but you can get mad value for a guy that has ridden the pine for years, take it, stud possible, unknown train wreck also possible.

For every Lamont Jordan and Chester Taylor there are a million Marcel Shipps and Anthony Thomas's.

 

[Despyzer]

Don't know if this is getting too specific, but it might belong in Assistant Coach

It's starting to look like it.

 

[perry147]

Eh, I'm in the minority but I don't like Turner. I'd sell him. Just my opinion. I have a bias against backups who people think when they get their shot are bust out studs. I think it is more likely that back ups don't become studs, sure it happens but you can get mad value for a guy that has ridden the pine for years, take it, stud possible, unknown train wreck also possible. For every Lamont Jordan and Chester Taylor there are a million Marcel Shipps and Anthony Thomas's.

But that is relative to who they are backing up. MT is behind the greatest RB in the leagues right now - not some has been or washout.

 

[bumpman]

Eh, I'm in the minority but I don't like Turner. I'd sell him. Just my opinion.

I have a bias against backups who people think when they get their shot are bust out studs. I think it is more likely that back ups don't become studs, sure it happens but you can get mad value for a guy that has ridden the pine for years, take it, stud possible, unknown train wreck also possible.

For every Lamont Jordan and Chester Taylor there are a million Marcel Shipps and Anthony Thomas's.

How many free agent backups are signed to take a starting job and then tank? I have not done a comprehensive study, but I don't think the ratio is as great as you are making it out to be.Let's see, free agent back up RBs signed for starters money who have flopped?

Priest Holmes? No.

Chester Taylor? No.

Lamont Jordan? No.

Can you help me out with some examples of the failures? I can't think of any off hand.

 

[mikel0254]

Don't know if this is getting too specific, but it might belong in Assistant Coach

It's starting to look like it.

Alright, I'll re-phrase (or reiterate):Is there ANYONE who thinks Turner will be valued more than LJ going into next season? Obviously we have NO idea where he will end up, but if you look at current rosters and RB situations, a few suitors could be Denver, Green Bay, TB, possibly Atlanta or Chicago. If he landed anyone of those places, would he be a top 10?

 

[AC05]

He got dropped in my Dynasty league last week...I grabbed him as fast as I freakin could. He'll be a stud.

 

[mobb_deep]

This topic leads into another discussion of where you think he might land?

Green Bay seems like an option. Tampa is also a possibility.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Eh, I'm in the minority but I don't like Turner. I'd sell him. Just my opinion.

I have a bias against backups who people think when they get their shot are bust out studs. I think it is more likely that back ups don't become studs, sure it happens but you can get mad value for a guy that has ridden the pine for years, take it, stud possible, unknown train wreck also possible.

For every Lamont Jordan and Chester Taylor there are a million Marcel Shipps and Anthony Thomas's.

How many free agent backups are signed to take a starting job and then tank? I have not done a comprehensive study, but I don't think the ratio is as great as you are making it out to be.Let's see, free agent back up RBs signed for starters money who have flopped?

Priest Holmes? No.

Chester Taylor?

Lamont Jordan? No.

Can you help me out with some examples of the failures? I can't think of any off hand.

excuse me... chester is already replaced after one yr... and Jordan isn't a stud.

 

[gman8343]

He got dropped in my Dynasty league last week...I grabbed him as fast as I freakin could. He'll be a stud.

that's crazy he'd be dropped in a dynasty league.

 

[bumpman]

Eh, I'm in the minority but I don't like Turner. I'd sell him. Just my opinion.

I have a bias against backups who people think when they get their shot are bust out studs. I think it is more likely that back ups don't become studs, sure it happens but you can get mad value for a guy that has ridden the pine for years, take it, stud possible, unknown train wreck also possible.

For every Lamont Jordan and Chester Taylor there are a million Marcel Shipps and Anthony Thomas's.

How many free agent backups are signed to take a starting job and then tank? I have not done a comprehensive study, but I don't think the ratio is as great as you are making it out to be.Let's see, free agent back up RBs signed for starters money who have flopped?

Priest Holmes? No.

Chester Taylor?

Lamont Jordan? No.

Can you help me out with some examples of the failures? I can't think of any off hand.

excuse me... chester is already replaced after one yr... and Jordan isn't a stud.

Fair enough, but we were getting off the topic a bit of Turner's value into whether backup free agents pan out for the teams that sign them. I think it is fair to say that both CT and Lamont panned out. Both of them racked up huge yardage for their teams the first year out. Yes, Minny drafted ADP who is clearly more talented, but I wouldn't be surprised to see CT go to another team and perform as a starter. Priest, of course, was a freaking stud. My point is that if Turner is signed for starters money in free agency, it isn't a shot in a dark for success like this poster suggests.

 

[Verbal Kint]

This topic leads into another discussion of where you think he might land?Green Bay seems like an option. Tampa is also a possibility.

Cleveland may be an option too. By this time next year, that offense could be a juggernaut.

 

[Paddy O'Seanessy]

It's highly doubtful that either team would do such a deal, but I'm wondering if Gruden & Co. are even thinking of making a move for Turner.

So, it's a foregone conclusion that he won't be starting for the Chargers next year? I keep wondering what Tomlinson fetches from the block come April.

 

[TheFanatic]

Whether Turner ends up being a better keeper than those other players you listed depends almost entirely on where he ends up. If Denver signs him, he should be one of your two keepers. If Cleveland signs him, or he ends up in a clear RBBC situation with another high quality back (Detroit?) . . . tough call, but at least you can trade him.

Seeing how he will be an UFA I don't see him winding up anywhere in a RBBC situation. He just won't sign with a team with that kind of set up. And no team is going to throw enough money at him for part of a RBBC. Where he goes he will be the man. The problem with all this speculation is that he won't be brining the Chargers O-Line with him. So it all depends on where he ends up. Green Bay, Chicago, NYJ, Tampa and Tennessee are about the only teams I can see him going to barring any major injuries at this point. Every where else has a bona fide starter or a RBBC that he will not likely sign with....I can see an outside chance of Cleveland, Houston, Giants and Carolina.

 

[KoolKat]

Just what we needed...another Turner speculation thread.

 

[snarfsnarf]

This topic leads into another discussion of where you think he might land?Green Bay seems like an option. Tampa is also a possibility.

Cleveland may be an option too. By this time next year, that offense could be a juggernaut.

Didn't Cleveland trade away their 1st round pick to get Quinn this year....so if they want a stud RB probably won't come via the draft.

 

[mikel0254]

Just what we needed...another Turner speculation thread.

Why do you waste your time even posting? Just skip it if you don't like it. Nobody asked you to read

 

[corpcow]

Okay, I'll play.I am also in a keeper league (keep 2) and have held LT for years. Last year I drafted Burner as a handcuff but also on the outside shot he would get snatched up as a RFA this past off season. He did not so I did not hold him over but reached a bit more for him in the draft to not only have the LT handcuff again but knowing he will be gone in 2008 and would be a potential keeper for me. I WOUlD NOT trade him at all. Yes, it all depends on the team he goes to but he should command a pretty high asking price in the free agent market next year. Teams do not pay through the nose for a good RB and not plan to feed him the ball all day. Turner is a legit first round fantasy pick and should not last the second round no matter what team he goes to.

Yep. I grabbed him in every dynasty I could even if it meant reaching.

 

[Pocket Joker]

Just what we needed...another Turner speculation thread.

Just what I was thinking....

 

[BringItOn]

He got dropped in my Dynasty league last week...I grabbed him as fast as I freakin could. He'll be a stud.

that's crazy he'd be dropped in a dynasty league.

Ok, I'll bite ....only because I gotta know WHO he was dropped for.... Dropping him outright is just insane.... at least trade the guy for a draft pick or something, then pick up your bye week filler player..

 

[fsufan]

This year's draft is going to be very RB strong and some of MT's potential suitors will be drafting a RB instead of signing him because of the money he will command being a FA.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Eh, I'm in the minority but I don't like Turner. I'd sell him. Just my opinion.

I have a bias against backups who people think when they get their shot are bust out studs. I think it is more likely that back ups don't become studs, sure it happens but you can get mad value for a guy that has ridden the pine for years, take it, stud possible, unknown train wreck also possible.

For every Lamont Jordan and Chester Taylor there are a million Marcel Shipps and Anthony Thomas's.

How many free agent backups are signed to take a starting job and then tank? I have not done a comprehensive study, but I don't think the ratio is as great as you are making it out to be.Let's see, free agent back up RBs signed for starters money who have flopped?

Priest Holmes? No.

Chester Taylor?

Lamont Jordan? No.

Can you help me out with some examples of the failures? I can't think of any off hand.

excuse me... chester is already replaced after one yr... and Jordan isn't a stud.

This just reinforces my point, you ask how many back up running backs who sign for starter money flop....not many. Because they are back ups not many backups get offered starter money. I think a awful lot of people are ASSUMING that Turner is going to get starter money and ASSUMING that he will even be given a shot to be a starter. I am not saying that you don't have the next Priest Holmes, I mean if you have already had him stashed on your dynasty roster for 4 years he pretty much has to be Priest to make it worthwhile, what I am saying is it is more likely that you don't.

There are many many more possibilities than Starter Stud that when added up are it is more likely that he is not a Starter Stud and you can get a fortune for selling him.

If you have him he is a lottery ticket, and you can sell it for more than the face value now, or you can wait for it to pay off a year from now, or get nothing.

I am not waiting a year for a gamble sorry, my personal preference, especially in the face that I have personally seen people wait for this ticket to pay for three years already.

 

[fsufan]

don't get me wrong... I'm saying hes a must trade... its just my opinion on the matter... and I'm only moving him if the deal is good.If I can't move him for the $$ I want; I'm perfectly happy with playing him.

I moved him this past off season, yes I have LTI traded Turner, Holt and a. green for bureess and portisI am in a win now stage.trade is working out so far

 

[Loan Sharks]

Eh, I'm in the minority but I don't like Turner. I'd sell him. Just my opinion.

I have a bias against backups who people think when they get their shot are bust out studs. I think it is more likely that back ups don't become studs, sure it happens but you can get mad value for a guy that has ridden the pine for years, take it, stud possible, unknown train wreck also possible.

For every Lamont Jordan and Chester Taylor there are a million Marcel Shipps and Anthony Thomas's.

How many free agent backups are signed to take a starting job and then tank? I have not done a comprehensive study, but I don't think the ratio is as great as you are making it out to be.Let's see, free agent back up RBs signed for starters money who have flopped?

Priest Holmes? No.

Chester Taylor?

Lamont Jordan? No.

Can you help me out with some examples of the failures? I can't think of any off hand.

excuse me... chester is already replaced after one yr... and Jordan isn't a stud.

Fair enough, but we were getting off the topic a bit of Turner's value into whether backup free agents pan out for the teams that sign them. I think it is fair to say that both CT and Lamont panned out. Both of them racked up huge yardage for their teams the first year out. Yes, Minny drafted ADP who is clearly more talented, but I wouldn't be surprised to see CT go to another team and perform as a starter. Priest, of course, was a freaking stud. My point is that if Turner is signed for starters money in free agency, it isn't a shot in a dark for success like this poster suggests.

What if he isn't?

 

[KellysHeroes]

Turner will get starter money and should produce atleast 2 solid yrs... there is no doubt in my mind of that...

I just feel that you can get better value than that for him.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Turner will get starter money and should produce atleast 2 solid yrs... there is no doubt in my mind of that...I just feel that you can get better value than that for him.

I can agree with that, I think a lot of people discount the value of having a roster spot for a year to find a prospect. My opinion is you can get Turner off your team for a good future pick and possibly find good prospect in the years time that it is a good deal.

 

[AC05]

He got dropped in my Dynasty league last week...I grabbed him as fast as I freakin could. He'll be a stud.

that's crazy he'd be dropped in a dynasty league.

Ok, I'll bite ....only because I gotta know WHO he was dropped for.... Dropping him outright is just insane.... at least trade the guy for a draft pick or something, then pick up your bye week filler player..

acquired Ward, Derrick NYG RBdropped Turner, Michael SDC RB 10 team league btw

 

[Rev]

Eh, I'm in the minority but I don't like Turner. I'd sell him. Just my opinion. I have a bias against backups who people think when they get their shot are bust out studs. I think it is more likely that back ups don't become studs, sure it happens but you can get mad value for a guy that has ridden the pine for years, take it, stud possible, unknown train wreck also possible. For every Lamont Jordan and Chester Taylor there are a million Marcel Shipps and Anthony Thomas's.

Actually for every Lamont Jordan and Chester Taylor there are a million Lamont Jordan's and Chester Taylors. These 2 haven't exactly become the studs that they were at one time billed to be. A successful backup in the final year of his contract is alot like a top tier rookie coming out of college. He could be great, but it's also quite likely that he wont produce anywhere near the hype. I'm not willing to pay Turner's current asking price, because he's being sold as a top 10 or 15 starting RB next year before we see where he's going and who he'll be competing with for carries.

 

[mad sweeney]

Whether Turner ends up being a better keeper than those other players you listed depends almost entirely on where he ends up. If Denver signs him, he should be one of your two keepers. If Cleveland signs him, or he ends up in a clear RBBC situation with another high quality back (Detroit?) . . . tough call, but at least you can trade him.

Detroit will go after 2 RBs this offseason?