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Saw these and another song not name yet last night. Star Lake is a pretty decent venue. I got to Pittsburgh Thursday and was looking for things to do and noticed dummies' friends Mdou Moctar and Clutch/Dino Jr. were also playing here this weekend.
 
12.
Happiness- Elliott Smith
from Figure 8 Album


"What I used to be will pass away and then you'll see
That all I want now is happiness for you and me"


just hearing the beginning, it feels pretty obvious that this is the big one for Figure 8 and maybe for the discography as a whole. it's like one last big celebration before he died. i mean it's not quite celebratory, but it's optimistic at least - it's not even actually happy, but at the very least he knows what he wants, and that's close enough... i feel like even though it's just about wanting happiness rather than happiness itself, that kind of makes it better in a way. its a beautiful and well crafted song that builds towards a rewarding, cathartic crescendo. Just one of my all time favorites.



 
Missed a lot of discussion so to catch up:

the first LP was Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band--the movie soundtrack.
I saw the movie back in the 70s and had the soundtrack. Anyway, today I read this article, and it is Peter Frampton, Joe Perry and Alice Cooper talking about the movie.

“It was one of those movies that ended up being so bad that it was great,” said Cooper more fondly of what is now considered a cult classic. “It was consistently horrible to the point where it was great.” :biggrin:


I had such a huge Peter Frampton schoolgirl crush after this movie. I didn't even know the Beatles album existed at the time. :bag: Blame Wrighteous Ray!!!
 
12.
Happiness- Elliott Smith
from Figure 8 Album


"What I used to be will pass away and then you'll see
That all I want now is happiness for you and me"


just hearing the beginning, it feels pretty obvious that this is the big one for Figure 8 and maybe for the discography as a whole. it's like one last big celebration before he died. i mean it's not quite celebratory, but it's optimistic at least - it's not even actually happy, but at the very least he knows what he wants, and that's close enough... i feel like even though it's just about wanting happiness rather than happiness itself, that kind of makes it better in a way. its a beautiful and well crafted song that builds towards a rewarding, cathartic crescendo. Just one of my all time favorites.

This is a lovely (and apt) description.
 
Some thoughts on the second half of the #12s!

"Loneliness is Just a Word" by Chicago - Pip nailed my taste with this one. This is how you do horns in a rock song. Coulda been a Stax recording, even had shades of "Green Onions" to me with the keyboard part. My favorite vocal from the band so far, just exquisite. Somehow felt longer than its short running time, which in this case is a good thing.

"Hanging Around" by the Stranglers scratched all my musical itches, from the guitar to the bass to the vocal.

Loved the swing on Ray Charles's "Every Saturday Night."

"This Is a Call" by the Foo Fighters wasn't new to me but is fantastic.

Obviously "As" is a favorite, as Uruk mentioned. Soaring.

I'm a fan of the vocals from The Hold Steady, whether before or after he took lessons. "Banging Camp" was one of my favorite performances from him.

"Charly" by The Prodigy was one of the most interesting and enjoyable from them so far.

I'm not sure why I'm still surprised every time I hear a banging Heart song, but I am. "Little Queen" made my new favorites.

Top-notch entries from Frank Black, Dinosaur Jr., Alice in Chains, Spoon, and The Good, the Band & the Queen.
 
"Loneliness is Just a Word" by Chicago - Pip nailed my taste with this one. This is how you do horns in a rock song. Coulda been a Stax recording, even had shades of "Green Onions" to me with the keyboard part. My favorite vocal from the band so far, just exquisite. Somehow felt longer than its short running time, which in this case is a good thing.
I knew it!

I can definitely hear the Stax influence in this one as well.
 
I'm a fan of the vocals from The Hold Steady, whether before or after he took lessons. "Banging Camp" was one of my favorite performances from him.
A strange thought hit me when I heard Banging Camp. The relationship between Craig Finn's vocals and The Hold Steady's music is kind of like the relationship between John S. Hall's vocals and King Missile's music. That is, there really isn't one -- the singer does their thing on top of the band doing their thing. As if the vocals and the music were conceived and performed completely separately.
 
29. Wishing You Were Here
Album: Chicago VII (1974)
Writer: Peter Cetera
Lead vocals: Terry Kath (verses), Peter Cetera (bridge)
Released as a single? Yes (US #11)

Wishing You Were Here was one of the last songs recorded for Chicago VII and features some of the Beach Boys, also clients of producer/manager Jim Guercio, on harmony vocals.
Peter Cetera: "There's two people that I always wanted to be, and that was a Beatle or a Beach Boy. I got to meet the Beach Boys at various times and got to be good friends with Carl [Wilson]. I remember I was living on the ocean, messing with the guitar one night, and the waves were rolling in, and I started learning that little lick that opens the song, and my then-lady was lying on the couch sleeping. We were going on the road within the next day or so, and with the waves coming in and that little lick, I wrote about the road."
The song was conceived as a Beach Boys-style thing, and when some of the Beach Boys stopped by Guercio's Caribou Ranch during the recording of Chicago VII, Cetera asked them to sing on the track. Cetera: "I always wanted the Beach Boys to sing on my song, and they said, 'Yeah, we'd love to sing backgrounds on that.' So, I got to do the background harmonies - myself and Carl and Dennis [Wilson] and Alan Jardine. For a night, I was a Beach Boy." It is one of the rare Cetera-penned songs where he does not handle the majority of the lead vocals; during recording, he realized the verses were written for a vocal lower than what he could provide, so he had Terry Kath sing them, and took the bridge for himself. In some more role switching, Kath played bass and Cetera and Guercio played guitar.
The lushness of the song's sound is the first step toward the Cetera balladry that would become the band's signature sound in the late '70s and '80s, but I forgive it for that, because it's executed so well. The vocal arrangement is every bit as good as it sounds like it would be on paper, and I love how the keening analog synth complements the wordless harmonies. Much of the rest of it is textbook what we would later call yacht rock, but it adeptly avoids the sludgy, overly layered production that would come to define the subgenre.
Live version with the Beach Boys on Chicago's New Year's Rockin' Eve 1975: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlVD_m5KXjw
A while ago Zamboni alerted me to the existence of Leonid and Friends, a Moscow-based band that started out as a Chicago tribute act but has branched into other '70s artists as well. Their covers are stunningly well-executed and I will include links to their performances when they exist for any of my top 31. Here is their cover of Wishing You Were Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLAUyc64thU

The first three songs on my list have been Peter Cetera compositions. There are only two more, and they are both collaborations.

Chicago VII was a triumphant return to the strong songs, killer playing and experimental spirit of the band's first three albums -- and like them, it was a double. However, it did not have an auspicious beginning. It was born out of the band growing bored with their stage show and wanting to incorporate more of their jazz roots in it. They began including jazz-flavored instrumentals composed and workshopped during soundchecks, and after coming off the tour for Chicago VI, their second straight No. 1 album, many of the band members thought they were commercially invincible enough to release an album of all jazz instrumentals. After a few weeks in the studio, it was clear that not everyone was onboard with this idea. Cetera and Guercio thought most of the songs weren't working and that releasing an entire album of jazz instrumentals would be commercial suicide. The other members thought some of the material was too good to set aside. So a compromise was reached: the next release would be a double album including the best of the jazz instrumentals and vocal songs in their usual pop-rock style (which enabled Cetera, who had no interest in writing jazz, to get some of his compositions on the record). The experimentation isn't just on the first 1.5 sides of jazz instrumentals, though. Some of the songs on the other 2.5 sides venture into territories the band hadn't explored much before, including hard rock, salsa and funk. Percussionist Laudir de Oliveira played on most tracks, reflecting the band's interest in incorporating Latin rhythms more; he would become a full member of the band for its next album. And some of the original members took on new roles on some tracks: Lee Loughnane sang lead; Kath played bass; Cetera played acoustic guitar; Robert Lamm, who was working on a solo album at the same time, shared a guitar-less song from it; and Loughnane, Walter Parazaider and Danny Seraphine wrote songs.
The result was a triumph on the level of the band's first three albums. The experiments work brilliantly for the most part and some of my under-the-radar picks for the top 31 come from this album. My friend who is big into jazz-rock fusion loves the jazz material on this record, so I'll take his word that it was a success on those grounds. And for all the new directions the album explored, it still produced three hit singles (and a fourth that wasn't released as a single here but was a big hit in South America) and became their third straight No. 1 record.

At #28 is an underappreciated song with powerhouse performances from all three vocalists. If you were watching ABC's summer programming in 1973, you might have seen it on their airwaves.
Listening to a podcast Rick Beato did in December on trying to determine the best Chicago song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIQexWMBSk8

When considering this one he said, "If this was done today, it would all be autotuned and sound horrendously bad." :laugh:
 
Missed a lot of discussion so to catch up:

the first LP was Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band--the movie soundtrack.
I saw the movie back in the 70s and had the soundtrack. Anyway, today I read this article, and it is Peter Frampton, Joe Perry and Alice Cooper talking about the movie.

“It was one of those movies that ended up being so bad that it was great,” said Cooper more fondly of what is now considered a cult classic. “It was consistently horrible to the point where it was great.” :biggrin:


meh, Alice is a sweetheart. He loves everyone, which is awesome.
 
Listening to a podcast Rick Beato did in December on trying to determine the best Chicago song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIQexWMBSk8

When considering this one he said, "If this was done today, it would all be autotuned and sound horrendously bad." :laugh:

I'm watching this now and getting a little bit perturbed every time he turns a song off to talk. I know it's the purpose of the show (him talking) but the songs are so strong that it's getting to me when he turns them off. "Wishing You Were Here" is sublime. The backing vocals are just sick.
 
29. Wishing You Were Here
Album: Chicago VII (1974)
Writer: Peter Cetera
Lead vocals: Terry Kath (verses), Peter Cetera (bridge)
Released as a single? Yes (US #11)

Wishing You Were Here was one of the last songs recorded for Chicago VII and features some of the Beach Boys, also clients of producer/manager Jim Guercio, on harmony vocals.
Peter Cetera: "There's two people that I always wanted to be, and that was a Beatle or a Beach Boy. I got to meet the Beach Boys at various times and got to be good friends with Carl [Wilson]. I remember I was living on the ocean, messing with the guitar one night, and the waves were rolling in, and I started learning that little lick that opens the song, and my then-lady was lying on the couch sleeping. We were going on the road within the next day or so, and with the waves coming in and that little lick, I wrote about the road."
The song was conceived as a Beach Boys-style thing, and when some of the Beach Boys stopped by Guercio's Caribou Ranch during the recording of Chicago VII, Cetera asked them to sing on the track. Cetera: "I always wanted the Beach Boys to sing on my song, and they said, 'Yeah, we'd love to sing backgrounds on that.' So, I got to do the background harmonies - myself and Carl and Dennis [Wilson] and Alan Jardine. For a night, I was a Beach Boy." It is one of the rare Cetera-penned songs where he does not handle the majority of the lead vocals; during recording, he realized the verses were written for a vocal lower than what he could provide, so he had Terry Kath sing them, and took the bridge for himself. In some more role switching, Kath played bass and Cetera and Guercio played guitar.
The lushness of the song's sound is the first step toward the Cetera balladry that would become the band's signature sound in the late '70s and '80s, but I forgive it for that, because it's executed so well. The vocal arrangement is every bit as good as it sounds like it would be on paper, and I love how the keening analog synth complements the wordless harmonies. Much of the rest of it is textbook what we would later call yacht rock, but it adeptly avoids the sludgy, overly layered production that would come to define the subgenre.
Live version with the Beach Boys on Chicago's New Year's Rockin' Eve 1975: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlVD_m5KXjw
A while ago Zamboni alerted me to the existence of Leonid and Friends, a Moscow-based band that started out as a Chicago tribute act but has branched into other '70s artists as well. Their covers are stunningly well-executed and I will include links to their performances when they exist for any of my top 31. Here is their cover of Wishing You Were Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLAUyc64thU

The first three songs on my list have been Peter Cetera compositions. There are only two more, and they are both collaborations.

Chicago VII was a triumphant return to the strong songs, killer playing and experimental spirit of the band's first three albums -- and like them, it was a double. However, it did not have an auspicious beginning. It was born out of the band growing bored with their stage show and wanting to incorporate more of their jazz roots in it. They began including jazz-flavored instrumentals composed and workshopped during soundchecks, and after coming off the tour for Chicago VI, their second straight No. 1 album, many of the band members thought they were commercially invincible enough to release an album of all jazz instrumentals. After a few weeks in the studio, it was clear that not everyone was onboard with this idea. Cetera and Guercio thought most of the songs weren't working and that releasing an entire album of jazz instrumentals would be commercial suicide. The other members thought some of the material was too good to set aside. So a compromise was reached: the next release would be a double album including the best of the jazz instrumentals and vocal songs in their usual pop-rock style (which enabled Cetera, who had no interest in writing jazz, to get some of his compositions on the record). The experimentation isn't just on the first 1.5 sides of jazz instrumentals, though. Some of the songs on the other 2.5 sides venture into territories the band hadn't explored much before, including hard rock, salsa and funk. Percussionist Laudir de Oliveira played on most tracks, reflecting the band's interest in incorporating Latin rhythms more; he would become a full member of the band for its next album. And some of the original members took on new roles on some tracks: Lee Loughnane sang lead; Kath played bass; Cetera played acoustic guitar; Robert Lamm, who was working on a solo album at the same time, shared a guitar-less song from it; and Loughnane, Walter Parazaider and Danny Seraphine wrote songs.
The result was a triumph on the level of the band's first three albums. The experiments work brilliantly for the most part and some of my under-the-radar picks for the top 31 come from this album. My friend who is big into jazz-rock fusion loves the jazz material on this record, so I'll take his word that it was a success on those grounds. And for all the new directions the album explored, it still produced three hit singles (and a fourth that wasn't released as a single here but was a big hit in South America) and became their third straight No. 1 record.

At #28 is an underappreciated song with powerhouse performances from all three vocalists. If you were watching ABC's summer programming in 1973, you might have seen it on their airwaves.
Listening to a podcast Rick Beato did in December on trying to determine the best Chicago song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIQexWMBSk8

When considering this one he said, "If this was done today, it would all be autotuned and sound horrendously bad." :laugh:
His winner is on my list and has not been revealed yet.
 
Listening to a podcast Rick Beato did in December on trying to determine the best Chicago song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIQexWMBSk8

When considering this one he said, "If this was done today, it would all be autotuned and sound horrendously bad." :laugh:

I'm watching this now and getting a little bit perturbed every time he turns a song off to talk. I know it's the purpose of the show (him talking) but the songs are so strong that it's getting to me when he turns them off. "Wishing You Were Here" is sublime. The backing vocals are just sick.
The only reason it didn't bother me is because I've already listened to those songs a squillion times during this exercise. :laugh:

I didn't agree with his decision to only consider songs from the first greatest hits album (IX), but you have to narrow it down somehow.
 
#11's PLAYLIST
#11-
Todd RundgrenNew Binky the DoormatInitiation
Jorge Ben JorDon QuixoteChove Chuva

Brandi CarlileJB Breakfast ClubSinners, Saints and Fools - In These Silent Days
The PoliceZegras11King Of Pain
Modest MouseThe Dreaded MarcoI Came As A Rat
GenesisYo MamaGet 'Em Out by Friday
Stevie Ray VaughanSullieWall of Denial
The Decemberistskupcho1Severed
...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of DeadplinkoProtest Streets
XI: Bleed Here Now (2022)
The KinksGalileo(Wish I Could Fly Like) Superman (1979 - Low Budget)
RushhigginsLimelight
Sigur RósScoresmanGobbledigook - Með suð í eyrum við spilum endalaust - 2008
Donald FagenCharlie SteinerRuby Baby
Green DayMAC_32F.O.D.
Big ThiefIlov80sSpud Infinity
Daft Punk rockactionGet Lucky (feat. Pharrell Williams and Nile Rodgers)
Taylor SwiftJpalmerBabe
Elliott SmithTuffnuttAlameda

ChicagoPip's InvitationListen
The StranglersJohn Maddens LunchboxStraighten Out
Ryan AdamsDr. OctopusEnglish Girls Approximately
Stevie WonderUruk-HaiI Wish
SladeMrs. RannousLove Is Like A Rock
PhishshukeMoma Dance
Electgric Light Orchestra (ELO)jwbRockaria!
Frank BlackMister CIAGoodbye Lorraine
Clutch Raging Weasel Sea Of Destruction
Dinosaur Jr. KarmaPolice The Wagon
Warren ZevonworrierkingReconsider Me
Written for his ex-wife who briefly reconsidered and wisely stayed far away. She did return to write his biography, which, at his insistence, had all the warts in it. Those were some huge warts. Recorded by The Pretenders and Stevie Nicks, but only released on box sets.
Alice in ChainsMt. ManOver Now
QueensnellmanSomebody To Love
AC/DCfalguyRock And Roll Ain't Noise Pollution
The Hold SteadscorchyLord, I'm Discouraged
Damon AlbarnEephusGorillaz (feat. Mos Def and Bobby Womack) --- Stylo
Ray Charlessimey
Doveslandrys hatEleven Miles Out
SpoonHov34Utilitarian

Foo FightersJust Win BabyCongregation
Simon & Garfunkelzamboni"America"
Bruce SpringsteenDrIanMalcolmSeeds
The ProdigytitusbrambleThe Way It Is
Bauhausotb_liferKick in the Eye
HeartDoug BTall, Dark Handsome Stranger
The Tragically HipNorthern VoiceIn a World Possessed by the Human Mind
deadmau5zazaleBrazil - 2nd edit
Elton JohntimschochetInto The Old Man’s Shoes
 
#11 (Wish I Could Fly Like) Superman (1979 - Low Budget)

Pretty simple song about the need to be a superhero to survive difficult times. It’s written with the backdrop of the UK’s Winter of Discontent. With disco all the rage in the 70’s, the Kinks’ tried to cash in on that by integrating a bit of a disco groove into the song complete with a lyrical tip of the cap to Staying Alive. In truth, it was the Kinks’ producer, Clive Davis of Arista Records, who wanted this. Ray Davies claimed “(this song) was kind of a joke, taking the piss out of Clive wanting us to do a club-friendly record." The Kinks loved a little humor in their music. Oh, in an interesting aside, this album, Low Budget, has both Superman and Captain America (Catch Me Now I’m Falling #16) references.


Woke up this morning, started to sneeze
I had a cigarette and a cup of tea
I looked in the mirror what did I see
A nine stone weakling with knobbly knees
I did my knees bend press ups touch my toes
I had another sneeze and I blew my nose
I looked in the mirror at my pigeon chest
I had to put on my clothes because it made me depressed
Surely there must be a way
For me to change the shape I'm in
Dissatisfied is what I am
I want to be a better man

Superman superman wish I could fly like superman
Superman superman I want to be like superman
I want to be like superman
Superman superman wish I could fly like superman

Woke up this morning, what did I see
A big black cloud hanging over me
I switched on the radio and nearly dropped dead
The news was so bad that I fell out of bed
There was a gas strike, oil strike, lorry strike, bread strike
Got to be a superman to survive
Gas bills, rent bills, tax bills, phone bills
I'm such a wreck but I'm staying alive

[look in the paper, what do I see,
Robbery, violence, insanity.]

Hey girl we've got to get out of this place
There's got to be something better than this
I need you, but I hate to see you this way
If I were superman then we'd fly away
I'd really like to change the world
And save it from the mess it's in
I'm too weak, I'm so thin
I'd like to fly but I can't even swim

Superman superman I want to fly like superman
Superman superman wish I could fly like superman
Superman superman wish I could fly like superman
Superman superman I want to be like superman
Superman superman I want to fly like superman
 
Genesis #11 - Get 'Em Out by Friday

Album - Foxtrot
Year - 1972

Finally, a song from my co-favorite Genesis (and definitely not the last).

This was a song of strong social commentary - criticizing greedy landlords and their impact. Of course, since it’s Genesis it includes multiple characters with different voices and a futuristic vibe to it.
 
SladeMrs. RannousLove Is Like A Rock
Never knew they covered this Donnie Iris tune - respect.
This is the other tune that Holder and Lea didn't write. Obviously, it's a favourite of mine.
 
#11 - The Stranglers - Straighten Out


Year - 1977
Album - The AA side to a single
UK Chart position - #9
Vocals - Hugh Cornwell
Key Lyric - And the first commandment reads
That human flesh and blood
Is sacred
Until there is no more food

Interesting Points

1- The Stranglers were riding high off their first top 10 single, still to come on my list, and had their second album ready within six months of their first. The lead single was chosen, but they wanted a new b side and this recorded. Deemed too good to be a b side, it was given the equivalent if the AA moniker

2-The a side was topical and fit with the times. This track was almost a throwback with 50s sounds and a great doorsish riff

3-The lyrics dont match the catchy tune. They reflect a dark, almost depressive time in England with high unemployment. The line about cannibalism at the start, reflect the desperation.

4-Havent said much about the drummer. Jet Black, born Brian Duffy. He was considerably older than the others, but an accomplished drummer. He matched the bands ethos of the meninblack to a tee though

5-Upon Blacks death at the age of 84, singer Cornwell who hadnt spoke to any band member since 1990 said this of him “We shared a special period of our lives when we strived to become professional musicians. We were immediately drawn to one another, he had a singular sense of purpose that I identified with. The Stranglers' success was founded on his determination and drive”

Summary to date
Year

1977 - 9
1978 - 4
1979 - 2
1980 - 0
1981 - 1
1982 - 1
1983 - 0
1984 - 2
1985 - 0
1986 - 0
1987 - 0
1988 - 1
1989 - 0
1990 onwards - 1

Where to find
Rattus Norvegicus - 6/9
No More Heroes - 2/11
Black and White - 1/12
The Raven - 2/11
The Gospel According to the Meninblack - 0/10
La Folie - 1/11
Feline - 0/9
Aural Sculpture - 2/11
Dreamtime - 0/10
All Live and All of the Night - 1/13
10 - 1/10
1991 onwards - 0
B Sides - 1
Greatest Hits - 1
Standalone Single - 3

Running Vocal Count
Hugh Cornwell - 13
Jean-Jacques Burnel - 8
Other - 0

Rundown
#31 - Walk on By
#30 - Ugly
#29 - All Day and All of the Night
#28 - Meninblack
#27 - Goodbye Toulouse
#26 - Princess of the Streets
#25 - Sweden (All Quiet on the Eastern Front)
#24 - Duchess
#23 - Sometimes
#22 - La Folie
#21 - North Winds
#20 - No Mercy
#19 - 5 Minutes
#18 - Strange Little Girl
#17 - Shut Up
#16 - Bitching
#15 - Bring on the Nubiles
#14 - 96 Tears
#13 - Down in the Sewer
#12 - Hanging Around
#11 - Straighten Out

Next we have the most Stranglers song ever. If i had to pick one song to say “This is the Stranglers”, its the next one.
 
11. "I Wish"

It's amazing to me that Stevie Wonder - whose childhood was anything but normal - could nail so accurately what it was like to be a normal kid. Doing dumb ****, getting caught, getting punished......I did pretty much everything Stevie sings about here when I was a little hardhead. But he misses those days and wishes they'd come back

The song only has two verse/chorus pieces, which take up about half the record's run-time. The second half is an instrumental vamp featuring a swinging horn line. The bass playing throughout the record is just filthy.
 
#11 - The Stranglers - Straighten Out


Year - 1977
Album - The AA side to a single
UK Chart position - #9
Vocals - Hugh Cornwell
Key Lyric - And the first commandment reads
That human flesh and blood
Is sacred
Until there is no more food

Interesting Points

1- The Stranglers were riding high off their first top 10 single, still to come on my list, and had their second album ready within six months of their first. The lead single was chosen, but they wanted a new b side and this recorded. Deemed too good to be a b side, it was given the equivalent if the AA moniker

2-The a side was topical and fit with the times. This track was almost a throwback with 50s sounds and a great doorsish riff

3-The lyrics dont match the catchy tune. They reflect a dark, almost depressive time in England with high unemployment. The line about cannibalism at the start, reflect the desperation.

4-Havent said much about the drummer. Jet Black, born Brian Duffy. He was considerably older than the others, but an accomplished drummer. He matched the bands ethos of the meninblack to a tee though

5-Upon Blacks death at the age of 84, singer Cornwell who hadnt spoke to any band member since 1990 said this of him “We shared a special period of our lives when we strived to become professional musicians. We were immediately drawn to one another, he had a singular sense of purpose that I identified with. The Stranglers' success was founded on his determination and drive”

Summary to date
Year

1977 - 9
1978 - 4
1979 - 2
1980 - 0
1981 - 1
1982 - 1
1983 - 0
1984 - 2
1985 - 0
1986 - 0
1987 - 0
1988 - 1
1989 - 0
1990 onwards - 1

Where to find
Rattus Norvegicus - 6/9
No More Heroes - 2/11
Black and White - 1/12
The Raven - 2/11
The Gospel According to the Meninblack - 0/10
La Folie - 1/11
Feline - 0/9
Aural Sculpture - 2/11
Dreamtime - 0/10
All Live and All of the Night - 1/13
10 - 1/10
1991 onwards - 0
B Sides - 1
Greatest Hits - 1
Standalone Single - 3

Running Vocal Count
Hugh Cornwell - 13
Jean-Jacques Burnel - 8
Other - 0

Rundown
#31 - Walk on By
#30 - Ugly
#29 - All Day and All of the Night
#28 - Meninblack
#27 - Goodbye Toulouse
#26 - Princess of the Streets
#25 - Sweden (All Quiet on the Eastern Front)
#24 - Duchess
#23 - Sometimes
#22 - La Folie
#21 - North Winds
#20 - No Mercy
#19 - 5 Minutes
#18 - Strange Little Girl
#17 - Shut Up
#16 - Bitching
#15 - Bring on the Nubiles
#14 - 96 Tears
#13 - Down in the Sewer
#12 - Hanging Around
#11 - Straighten Out

Next we have the most Stranglers song ever. If i had to pick one song to say “This is the Stranglers”, its the next one.
I'm not a big punk fan, but I like these guys. They are way more melodic than most of the mouth-foamers were in the '70s. I can't even understand most of the lyrics, but they knew how to set a groove and ride it.
 
Over Now

What this band accomplished in five (OK, six) years is an incredible body of work. Add in Layne's Mad Season and it's an absolute treasure trove. A shame it had to be this way. The song that leads into this track at the end of AIC3, segued to this one, really really a moving and heartbreaking 15 minute farewell. Both songs run a little too long, like the long painful goodbye that they are.
 
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Lord, I'm Discouraged

I would call this THS's best song, and @scorchy would probably expect that. Beautiful, again painful song, killer guitar solo, still reminds me of Tremendous Upside. I had not taken this band particularly seriously until I heard this - thanks to him pimping it hard right here on the board (and uber league chat which was still slamming in those days) - and then dived right into the album which like I said, probably my all around favorite of the last couple decades.

Those cornhole years brought some brilliant and seriously alcoholic misadventures. Most of us are lucky to be older and wiser now, looking back fondly to our misspent thirties. Sean Gullen -- you are missed, captain.
 
King of Pain is the title track of my old depressing songs playlist, just me picking on myself a little bit there. I haven't listened to Alameda yet, but it is still printed on my drivers license, though I don't live there anymore... these #11's are gonna lay me low, Zegs!

Anyway, in other news, The Wagon is the best tune on Green Mind, and we've got some classic slamming Clutch here.

As for ToD, Protest Streets is my final offering from their last record, their take on, well, a protest song, I might have placed it a little high but I like the nature of it, and its capturing of the tone of the preceding couple of years. Runs a little long as well. If you liked our very first track #31, stick until the end here and you might hear a familiar tune. And, it's not the last time we'll hear a lady drop in and sing us out.

In the next couple of days I may bring in a couple more bonus tracks from XI: BLEED HERE NOW
 
11

Song: English Girls Approximately
Artist: Ryan Adams
Album: Love Is Hell
Released: 2003

Another love song, this one supposedly about his relationship with musician Beth Orton but with the Adams twist.

Tall drink of water, she's a Norfolk waterfall
Little daybreaker, she's shooting like a cannon ball
Crazy like a rocket when
You're coming through my radio,
Kept me in your bed till the winter time
Through the fall
Fall time come, and I guess my little bird can sing
Come on Elizabeth, come on Bethany
Come on forever, I'm tired and I want to sleep
My little dove flew away, and I'm guessing
She was done with me
You said you didn't love me, it was right on time
I was just about to tell you, but ok, alright
Said you didn't love me,
That you didn't want a thing
English girls can be so mean
But, oh, look at you now
Oh, look at you now
Mmm, best I've ever seen
Just a tall drink of water
Just pourin' down the sink
 
The Decemberists
#11 Severed


I was born to a jackal
I was born in a whiteout
Gonna smother you all 'til I choke you
Gonna smother you all 'til you kick out


Musically, Severed is an outlier in my top 31 (the only possible exception being an upcoming song from The Hazards of Love). Pitchfork stated that it had an R.E.M. Driver 8 feel to it. Well ... maybe.
Lyrically? No need for the O.E.D. and the song is, I believe, open to interpretation.
Here's one from popmatters (with a shoutout to the racist sage of Charm City):

In a recent interview with the New York Times, author Phillip Roth recollected the words of pundit H.L. Mencken about democracy in America, “It is the worship of jackals by jackasses.” When the Decemberists sing, “I was born to a jackal”, the accompanying video makes it clear the band is referring to President Donald Trump. The songs’ lyrics may be somewhat vague, but the notion that our head has been severed from the body politic comes across clearly. The lilting voice in which the lines are sung and the serene way the music is played suggests a feeling of helplessness. That does not seem to be intended ironically. The damage has already been done. The only solace we find is with others who share the same consciousness, like the work songs of the enslaved that make the burden easier to share.

Personally, I think its a stretch, but who knows? It wouldn't be the first time they dissed the Donald.
 
11. Over Now (off Alice in Chains, 1995)

(Youtube Version) Over Now
(Unplugged Version) Alice In Chains - Over Now

You know its been on my mind
Could you stand right there
Look me straight in the eye and say
That it's over now


The beginning snippet on the album version (including the first two words) is technically from “Good Night” by Ted Lewis And His Band, though naturally that also ‘borrows’ from “Taps”. Appropriately, Over Now is the last song on the album. Though, as we’ve discussed, neither quite the last song with Layne or the last song on Unplugged.

If I’d have known, putting this right after Warren Zevon’s “Keep Me in Your Heart” (for those that don't shuffle) would have carried the mood over just a bit more. Plausibly also made both songs a bit extra heart-wrenching.

Though strained relationships with women for both Staley and Cantrell likely played a part in construction, this song is mostly attributed to the 1995 breakup of the band. That didn’t last, of course. Though minus a handful of performances (including Unplugged), it would be 14 years before we’d really hear from them if you don’t count compilations like Music Bank.

Next on the countdown, AIC delves into specific meteorology.
 
A strange thought hit me when I heard Banging Camp. The relationship between Craig Finn's vocals and The Hold Steady's music is kind of like the relationship between John S. Hall's vocals and King Missile's music. That is, there really isn't one -- the singer does their thing on top of the band doing their thing. As if the vocals and the music were conceived and performed completely separately.
Good timing Pip, because last evening UPS delivered the just-released oral history The Gospel of the Hold Steady. In the first chapter, Tad and Galen make pretty much the same point:

Tad Kubler (lead guitar): Playing with these guys [Galen and original drummer Judd Counsell] was really easy. Given the throwback rock style we were chasing, I was interested to see how it was going to work with what Craig does, because it was very specific and it can be polarizing. The great thing about it is that there's no question who you're listening to. You know it's Craig immediately.

Galen Polivka (bass): It wasn't a concept or anything, but Craig's demeanor being what it is, and his whole vibe being what it's like, having this bludgeoning, ham-fisted rock band behind his ranting is the last thing you'd expect. Our style happened organically and there was a refreshing lack of preciousness to it. [Craig and Tad] were two people coming at things totally separately..., and then it turned into something that's lasted 20 years.
 
11. Ruby Baby is the third song from The Nightfly to appear on my list.

While not an original tune and covered many times in multiple genres, Fagan still put a great spin on it, building to a subtle crescendo in the last stanza, and I love the outtro; I always imagine the two of them finally getting together and dancing happily as the music gradually fades away.

On the other hand, this is Donald Fagen, so maybe 'Ruby Baby' is about being hooked on reds, a.k.a. barbiturates.

I got a girl and Ruby is her name
She don't love me, but I love her just the same
Ruby Baby how I want you
Like a ghost I'm gonna haunt you
Ruby Baby when will you be mine

Each time I see you baby my heart cries
I'm gonna steal you away from all those guys
From the sunny day I met you
Made a bet that I would get you
Ruby Baby when will you be mine

I got a girl and Ruby is her name
I'd give the world just to set her heart aflame
Got some lovin' money too
Gonna give it all to you
Ruby Baby when will you be mine
 
The Hold Steady “Realistic” Dream Setlist Song 21: Lord, I’m Discouraged

Lord, I'm discouraged
The circles have sucked in her eyes
Lord, I'm discouraged
Her new friends have shadowed her life
Lord, I'm discouraged
She ain't come out dancing for some time
And I try to light candles
But they burn down to nothing
She keeps coming up with
Excuses and half-truths and fortified wine


Album: Stay Positive (song 3 of 5)

Year: 2008

# of Times Seen Live: 10 of 38 shows

The Story: I just deleted an overly long and maudlin story of how Lord, I’m Discouraged captures a particularly painful year-or-two of my life (even though it was written more than a decade after). TL, DR version: my first love, who I had dated on-and-off for almost one-third of my life at that point, got lost in addiction and a litany of terrible choices and even worse dudes. She eventually made it out and we’re in touch from time to time, but I still would never call it a happy ending. I guess because I relate to the narrator’s story in Lord… so much, I tend not to listen to it often as it just reminds me of a point where I’ve never felt more helpless, angry, judgmental - you name it. Freaking gorgeous though and I’ll always love Tad’s stab at a November Rain-esque solo..

Live Notes: The first time I heard Lord, I’m Discouraged was when THS headlined Saturday night at the XPN festival in Camden, NJ. About halfway through the set, you could see the storms coming in and I think everyone knew things were about to get shut down. As Tad hit the solo in Lord…, the thunder boomed and lightning cracked over the Delaware river just behind the stage - epic and terrifying. Before THS could get more than a note or two into the next song, security rushed out and pulled them off the stage for good.
 
The Decemberists
#11 Severed


I was born to a jackal
I was born in a whiteout
Gonna smother you all 'til I choke you
Gonna smother you all 'til you kick out


Musically, Severed is an outlier in my top 31 (the only possible exception being an upcoming song from The Hazards of Love). Pitchfork stated that it had an R.E.M. Driver 8 feel to it. Well ... maybe.
Lyrically? No need for the O.E.D. and the song is, I believe, open to interpretation.
Here's one from popmatters (with a shoutout to the racist sage of Charm City):

In a recent interview with the New York Times, author Phillip Roth recollected the words of pundit H.L. Mencken about democracy in America, “It is the worship of jackals by jackasses.” When the Decemberists sing, “I was born to a jackal”, the accompanying video makes it clear the band is referring to President Donald Trump. The songs’ lyrics may be somewhat vague, but the notion that our head has been severed from the body politic comes across clearly. The lilting voice in which the lines are sung and the serene way the music is played suggests a feeling of helplessness. That does not seem to be intended ironically. The damage has already been done. The only solace we find is with others who share the same consciousness, like the work songs of the enslaved that make the burden easier to share.

Personally, I think its a stretch, but who knows? It wouldn't be the first time they dissed the Donald.
Yeah I should have mentioned this as one I know and love earlier, and it crushes. We're probably looking at the most apt Decemberists/Trail of Dead combo of the whole countdown here
 
#11 - Ray Charles - I Can't Stop Loving You - spotify

This was the lead single off of Ray's 1962 album Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music. The country song was written by Don Gibson, and Ray put his own interpretation on it, and to say it was a huge hit would be understating the enormous impact of Ray's version. This is the song that Willie said, “With his recording of ‘I Can’t Stop Loving You’, Ray Charles did more for country music than any other artist…Ray took country music to the world. And in some way the rest of us country singers are riding on his coattails.” The song was played worldwide, and on country stations, r&b stations, pop stations and easy listening stations. Ray was such a visionary, and he forever changed American music.

This song is my mom and dad's favorite.
 
11. Listen
Album: Chicago Transit Authority (1969)
Writer: Robert Lamm
Lead vocals: Robert Lamm
Released as a single? No

My highest-ranking non-radio song from the debut album (and it SHOULD be one, dammit!) swings and rocks with equal aplomb and is another example of how well-executed the "rock band with horns" approach was right out of the gate. It's snappy, it's rhythmic and of course it's got some killer guitar work from Terry Kath. Like "Introduction" (my #16 song), it is a "statement of purpose" song in which the band implores listeners to give them a chance.
Listen,
If you think that we're here for the money
You couldn't be right, you know(owowow)
But the bread is not too good here
It could be so natural
I said all you got to do is listen
Listen,
If you don't hear what you can tell us
If it's good you can tell us all
Or you can smile, that's alright my friend
It could be so nice, you know
If only you would listen
Listen,
If you don't understand it, no no no no
You got to try to fly
And don't you put me down, please
For creating beyond your mind
I said all you got to do is listen

At Carnegie Hall bonus track (yep, another one they didn't have room for on the original quadruple album; quite a bit slower than the studio version): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s_oVJI-uXc
Leonid and Friends version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVQjJKwZDuc

At #10, a song from 1977 that sounded like Chicago's older material because it WAS their older material.
 
For John Prine fans, his son Tommy just released a debut album. I've only heard two songs from it, but he sounds like the apple didn't fall too far from the tree. Tommy's voice sounds deeper to me but, musically and in subject matter, I don't think he could be accused of being the mailman's kid.
He is the mailman's kid! :biggrin: JP was a mail carrier before he became a full time musician. I saw Tommy perform at the Merlefest, and he was good. His dad would be proud.
 
Glancing at some songs I know on the 11s...

I Wish - My favorite Stevie song
Limelight - My favorite Rush song
America - One of my favorites by S&G. This song makes me think of David Bowie performing this after 9/11. :heart:
Into the Old Man's Shoes - This song was a bonus track added to Tumbleweed Connection at some point in time. It fits well on the concept album.
(Wish I Could Fly Like) Superman - There is a disco beat that shows up in this tune. I feel it!
Alameda - Love hearing this on a Sunday morning.
King of Pain - There's a skeleton choking on a crust of bread
Over Now - One of my favorite's by them
Get Lucky - I had no idea that Daft Punk was affiliated with this song.
Listen - This Terry Kath guy is pretty good.
Rockaria! - I forgot about this song by them. Fun blast from the past.
Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution - Slow rock and roller from the band down under.
Somebody to Love - The singing by all in this is great. I like Brian's guitar too.
F.O.D. - From chilling to thrilling.
 
I'm a fan of the vocals from The Hold Steady, whether before or after he took lessons. "Banging Camp" was one of my favorite performances from him.
A strange thought hit me when I heard Banging Camp. The relationship between Craig Finn's vocals and The Hold Steady's music is kind of like the relationship between John S. Hall's vocals and King Missile's music. That is, there really isn't one -- the singer does their thing on top of the band doing their thing. As if the vocals and the music were conceived and performed completely separately.

I don’t know King Missile’s music, but the description definitely fits The Hold Steady. It occurs to me now that that is part of what I love about it.
 
Listened to some #11 this morning, though I'm still behind on 12 and 13, the Ray Charles song was lovely, as usual, the Chicago Transit Authority song was another early banger - Mr. Cetera really slapping da bass on this one - and Rock & Roll Ain't Noise Pollution is one I never really paid much attention to but it was great for an early morning grocery run. Get Lucky is always pure goodness.

Another killer Doves track as well.

Some other recent likes I've caught up on this weekend. Phish's Fee, I do believe I've heard and it's a lot of fun. First Tube was a keeper for me as well.
Parklife, same, I've heard it and I dig it, all the Blur stuff is gold, I think I overlooked them and a lot of their peers too, looking back it's great meterial.
Bauhaus and Prodigy have grabbed me more often than I expected them to. My favorite Prodigy track will surely be in the top ten, and I know it thanks to Boomer Esiason.
Tragically Hip, another keeper with You're Everywhere. They've been another pleasant discovery. Same with Jorge, just a great addition to this project.
New to me and good stuff -- Chicago's In The Country. Zevon's Seminole Bingo. Elton's I Feel Like A Bullet. Deadmau5's Coelacanth.

I've kept more ELO songs than I expected to. They must be growing on me, though the handful of their tracks that annoy me still do (No Thumper)

Songs I know and love -- Love Hate Love always takes me back to Live Facelift
Going to Pasalacqua -- Perfect punk that started to change the game
1974 -- Ryan Adams' Rock N Roll record was much appreciated by me, you could say it's better than it has any right to be
O Valencia! - Any time I ended up with Danny Valencia in fantasy bases I'd have this in my head until I dropped his ***
Shoot To Thrill is a winner. My Cherie Amour of course. Not You Again was on This Is Fort Apache, killer collection.
If I ever had a go to Sugar Rios song it was Svefn
 
I'm a fan of the vocals from The Hold Steady, whether before or after he took lessons. "Banging Camp" was one of my favorite performances from him.
A strange thought hit me when I heard Banging Camp. The relationship between Craig Finn's vocals and The Hold Steady's music is kind of like the relationship between John S. Hall's vocals and King Missile's music. That is, there really isn't one -- the singer does their thing on top of the band doing their thing. As if the vocals and the music were conceived and performed completely separately.

I don’t know King Missile’s music, but the description definitely fits The Hold Steady. It occurs to me now that that is part of what I love about it.
They honestly have some and I mean SOME pretty solid stuff

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