Mike Bell Droppable? (1 Viewer)

[Raiderfan32904]

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2009/...s_and_no_5.html

"Though Mike Bell has not been ruled out for Sunday's game, beat writer Mike Triplett expects him to miss 3-4 weeks with his sprained MCL.

Analysis: Triplett appears to be extrapolating based on Pierre Thomas' recent recovery period. The Saints haven't updated Bell's status beyond the revelation that the injury is a sprained MCL. There's been no public timetable on his return, but that's how Thomas' injury was first reported as well. If Bell does miss multiple weeks, it could leave the door open for Thomas to regain his lead-back role."

With the emergence of Hamilton and PT's expected return, (I don't trust that recovery btw), 3-4 weeks is a long time especially as we enter the bye weeks. Short rosters require shuffling of rosters. I don't think I can wait that long.

Opinions?

 

[Breesisdaman]

Dunno, I have heard that Bell's injury was not as severe as the one Thomas had and recovery shouldn't be as long. It depends on who your dropping him for I guess because Bell wont stay on waivers once you've cut him.

 

[KellysHeroes]

we also heard PT's injury wasn't bad and he has what, 1 touch in 2 games and 2 pre-season games.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

we also heard PT's injury wasn't bad and he has what, 1 touch in 2 games and 2 pre-season games.

I agree with you. I don't trust any running backs with gimpy knees. Ankles get a pass. Knees, and you are damaged goods and are ready for the scrap heap.I picked up Hamilton, and I don't think Pierre will come back this year healthy either.

 

[Breesisdaman]

Of the 3 backs for this week only I would say Hamilton will see the most carries. PT is still injured remember he only got a couple carries last week. Beyond this week it is pretty much anyones guess. Good luck with that. I think Justin Forsett (Seahawks) would be a much better grab than Lionel Hamilton. The Seachickens will likely go ground game more often with Hasselbeck banged up. And Forsett looks like he is about to steal that job anyway.

 

[karmarooster]

Mike Bell may have some value if you can package him and send him to the PThomas or Bush owner. If you can't do that, I'd say he's droppable in 10 and 12 team leagues. Personally traded Thomas to the Bell owner as I decided I don't want anything to do with that backfield anymore.

 

[Breesisdaman]

we also heard PT's injury wasn't bad and he has what, 1 touch in 2 games and 2 pre-season games.

Well not from me. I told you guys it would be week 4 before he returned from that injury. So by my account he is ahead of schedule.September 7th post

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...85935&st=50

Pierre Thomas owners need to hope the Saints don't rest him through the bye week. Bush, Bell and Hamilton are taking reps in practice, If they do a very respectable job this Sunday it makes no sense to hurry Pierre Thomas back with the MCL sprain and risk injuring him further and losing him for the season. I expect the Saints to be cautious as they have been in the past with other injured players and make sure he is close to 100% before returning to the lineup. Too many horses in the stable to do otherwise. If PT owners have not already done so I suggest grabbing Mike Bell as a handcuff to PT.

 

[two_dollars]

Buy Reggie Bush NOW!

 

[sho nuff]

With the emergence of Hamilton

A bit premature on that one aren't we?

 

[steelcityman]

MCL is the same injury as Troy P and they were talking 3-6 weeks, and thats for a freak of nature who plays S, and not a RB. If Thomas and/or Bush look good this weekend, I think you could drop Bell. Or trade him to whoever has Thomas/Bush....might not get a lot but its better than nothing.

 

[gethugefast1]

Dunno, I have heard that Bell's injury was not as severe as the one Thomas had and recovery shouldn't be as long. It depends on who your dropping him for I guess because Bell wont stay on waivers once you've cut him.

I threw Bell out to my League's Trading Block as "Available"...another ________(you fill in the blank) owner offered me Kevin Smith.I hit the "Accept Button" as fast as I could.

 

[Dreamer]

we also heard PT's injury wasn't bad and he has what, 1 touch in 2 games and 2 pre-season games.

Well not from me. I told you guys it would be week 4 before he returned from that injury. So by my account he is ahead of schedule.

You also told us "Bush is da man".

 

[Raiderfan32904]

MCL is the same injury as Troy P and they were talking 3-6 weeks, and thats for a freak of nature who plays S, and not a RB. If Thomas and/or Bush look good this weekend, I think you could drop Bell. Or trade him to whoever has Thomas/Bush....might not get a lot but its better than nothing.

Not easy to trade damaged goods. 10 days ago, I tried to trade away both Bell and Thomas to make space to pick up Manningham. The league was shocked that I dropped PT outright. He was the big 'pickup' this week, while I was smiling that I already had Manningham on my roster.

 

[Breesisdaman]

we also heard PT's injury wasn't bad and he has what, 1 touch in 2 games and 2 pre-season games.

Well not from me. I told you guys it would be week 4 before he returned from that injury. So by my account he is ahead of schedule.

You also told us "Bush is da man".

Well He has more FF points than PT does at the moment if that is what you are getting at. Actually he has more than Forte and Steven Jackson as well. Taking the argument in context, Bush is the better back of the two to own( To date) He is returning from injury himself and this is a contract year for him with plenty of season left to play. The Saints are a pass first offense and Bush is the second check down after Colston. Time will tell I guess.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

we also heard PT's injury wasn't bad and he has what, 1 touch in 2 games and 2 pre-season games.

Well not from me. I told you guys it would be week 4 before he returned from that injury. So by my account he is ahead of schedule.

You also told us "Bush is da man".

Well He has more FF points than PT does at the moment if that is what you are getting at. Taking the argument in context, Bush is the better back of the two to own( To date) He is returning from injury himself and this is a contract year for him with plenty of season left to play. The Saints are a pass first offense and Bush is the second check down after Colston. Time will tell I guess.

Just dropped Bell on the WW, ironically picked up the Saints D. I wish I could have traded him for K. Smith, or anyone really. Short rosters and bye week coming up makes carrying 8 RB's hard to do.

 

[jon_mx]

Lionel Hamilton vs. James Davis. Any thoughts? I have Davis already, but would have to drop him to pick up Hamilton. I am leaning towards just just keeping Davis since he has more long term potential. I just see Hamilton as a place holder until one of the other backs get healthy.

 

[sho nuff]

Yeah...he will be my drop for my bye week TE in all liklihood.

I got what I wanted out of him...that first week start.

 

[jon_mx]

Just dropped Bell on the WW, ironically picked up the Saints D. I wish I could have traded him for K. Smith, or anyone really. Short rosters and bye week coming up makes carrying 8 RB's hard to do.

8 RB's is a short rooster? We can only carry 5 max. Is that a 12 man league. I can't imagine Bell would last more than 5 minutes after being dropped.

 

[brindrod]

Got an itchy finger to drop Bell for Tashard Choice. I know he won't last till tomorrow on the Waiver wire.

You can't rely on these injury reports. First, Barber was supposed to miss 2 weeks and now he is going to play Monday night. Bell was first reported as missing 3-4 weeks, then there's a possibility he will suit up for Sunday and now he's back to missing 3-4 weeks.

What's the point of having injury reports in the first place?

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Just dropped Bell on the WW, ironically picked up the Saints D. I wish I could have traded him for K. Smith, or anyone really. Short rosters and bye week coming up makes carrying 8 RB's hard to do.

8 RB's is a short rooster? We can only carry 5 max. Is that a 12 man league. I can't imagine Bell would last more than 5 minutes after being dropped.

QB: ShaubRB: LT, Sproles, ADP, Chester, M. Bush, Brown, HamiltonWR: Desaun, Hines, Manningham, Knox, MushTE: Gates, Z. MillerDST: Philly, NOK: Tynes12 man league, PPR, Redraft

 

[Breesisdaman]

Lionel Hamilton vs. James Davis. Any thoughts? I have Davis already, but would have to drop him to pick up Hamilton. I am leaning towards just just keeping Davis since he has more long term potential. I just see Hamilton as a place holder until one of the other backs get healthy.

Davis and you see correctly. Too many horses in the stable at the RB position in New Orleans. Those horses are not taking Reggie Bush's share of the load, they are taking PT's share and when all are healthy that side of the split will be muddy for sure. Jamal Lewis is hurt and Davis may get the start this week. Id hang on to him but I wouldn't start him this weekend against the Ravens

 

[jon_mx]

QB: ShaubRB: LT, Sproles, ADP, Chester, M. Bush, Brown, HamiltonWR: Desaun, Hines, Manningham, Knox, MushTE: Gates, Z. MillerDST: Philly, NOK: Tynes12 man league, PPR, Redraft

I would have kept Bush over Hamilton.

 

[Breesisdaman]

Just dropped Bell on the WW, ironically picked up the Saints D. I wish I could have traded him for K. Smith, or anyone really. Short rosters and bye week coming up makes carrying 8 RB's hard to do.

8 RB's is a short rooster? We can only carry 5 max. Is that a 12 man league. I can't imagine Bell would last more than 5 minutes after being dropped.

QB: ShaubRB: LT, Sproles, ADP, Chester, M. Bush, Brown, HamiltonWR: Desaun, Hines, Manningham, Knox, MushTE: Gates, Z. MillerDST: Philly, NOK: Tynes12 man league, PPR, Redraft

You seriously need to trade for a backup QB. Schaub hasnt made a full season of it in how long?

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Just dropped Bell on the WW, ironically picked up the Saints D. I wish I could have traded him for K. Smith, or anyone really. Short rosters and bye week coming up makes carrying 8 RB's hard to do.

8 RB's is a short rooster? We can only carry 5 max. Is that a 12 man league. I can't imagine Bell would last more than 5 minutes after being dropped.

QB: ShaubRB: LT, Sproles, ADP, Chester, M. Bush, Brown, HamiltonWR: Desaun, Hines, Manningham, Knox, MushTE: Gates, Z. MillerDST: Philly, NOK: Tynes12 man league, PPR, Redraft

You seriously need to trade for a backup QB. Schaub hasnt made a full season of it in how long?

I know...I know. My league, the QB's are all taken, some guys have 3 on their roster. I think the natural order of injuries and bye weeks will see some interesting QB names drop on the WW.

 

[SleeperPix]

Buy Reggie Bush NOW!

You think??? Curious...what do you think Bush is worth in non-ppr?

 

[Breesisdaman]

Just dropped Bell on the WW, ironically picked up the Saints D. I wish I could have traded him for K. Smith, or anyone really. Short rosters and bye week coming up makes carrying 8 RB's hard to do.

8 RB's is a short rooster? We can only carry 5 max. Is that a 12 man league. I can't imagine Bell would last more than 5 minutes after being dropped.

QB: ShaubRB: LT, Sproles, ADP, Chester, M. Bush, Brown, HamiltonWR: Desaun, Hines, Manningham, Knox, MushTE: Gates, Z. MillerDST: Philly, NOK: Tynes12 man league, PPR, Redraft

You seriously need to trade for a backup QB. Schaub hasnt made a full season of it in how long?

I know...I know. My league, the QB's are all taken, some guys have 3 on their roster. I think the natural order of injuries and bye weeks will see some interesting QB names drop on the WW.

Well there is about to be a changing of the guard on a few teams. Browns, Panthers, Skins, etc. so keep an eye or quick finger on that situation. Anderson wouldn't be a bad guy to add actually. Quinn is already a very shaky starter and he is going to get destroyed by the Ravens this week.

 

[p00h]

Dunno, I have heard that Bell's injury was not as severe as the one Thomas had and recovery shouldn't be as long. It depends on who your dropping him for I guess because Bell wont stay on waivers once you've cut him.

I threw Bell out to my League's Trading Block as "Available"...another ________(you fill in the blank) owner offered me Kevin Smith.I hit the "Accept Button" as fast as I could.

 

[sho nuff]

Just dropped Bell on the WW, ironically picked up the Saints D. I wish I could have traded him for K. Smith, or anyone really. Short rosters and bye week coming up makes carrying 8 RB's hard to do.

8 RB's is a short rooster? We can only carry 5 max. Is that a 12 man league. I can't imagine Bell would last more than 5 minutes after being dropped.

QB: ShaubRB: LT, Sproles, ADP, Chester, M. Bush, Brown, HamiltonWR: Desaun, Hines, Manningham, Knox, MushTE: Gates, Z. MillerDST: Philly, NOK: Tynes12 man league, PPR, Redraft

I would not call the ability to have backup D, TE and that many RBs a short roster.

 

[bushdocda]

I think I will eventually have two open roster spots when I am done with the PT and Bell thing. No way I am going after another saints rb in Hamilton. But this type of thing hurt me 2 years ago when I tired of following the revolving rb situation in GB with Wynn, Grant, and Jackson. Held them all except in the playoffs when Grant beat me. Blast

 

[Trap Play]

I just dropped him for Mike Sims-Walker in one league. We can only keep six RBs, right now I only have five. However, I couldn't justify tying up a roster spot on a back that slides anywhere between RB1-4 on his own team depending upon how Payton and his MCL feel on any given day.

 

[davearm]

Wow I'd say there's some major overreaction going on in here.

This is the first I've heard 3-4 weeks, and it's just some writer's speculation based on the Thomas situation (which by all accounts was more serious than Bell's).

IMO Bell has shown enough in the first two weeks to be the starter when healthy, which could be next week. Heck last I heard this week isn't out of the question. I sure as heck am not dropping him.

 

[massraider]

Unless someone can show me Mike Triplett's medical degree, and his access to Bell's medical info, I am gonna go ahead and wait and see.

 

[wingm@n]

Unless someone can show me Mike Triplett's medical degree, and his access to Bell's medical info, I am gonna go ahead and wait and see.

But he did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

 

[gethugefast1]

Unless someone can show me Mike Triplett's medical degree, and his access to Bell's medical info, I am gonna go ahead and wait and see.

Source: cbssportline.comFantasy Analysis: We'll keep tabs on both Thomas and Bell leading up to Sunday's game, but if Bell doesn't get any practice in, his Cinderella story-like ride to Fantasy prominence will likely come to a screeching halt. Fantasy owners should prepare to use healthier Fantasy options for Week 3. If anything changes with Bell, we will let you know. (Updated 09/24/2009).

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Unless someone can show me Mike Triplett's medical degree, and his access to Bell's medical info, I am gonna go ahead and wait and see.

Source: cbssportline.comFantasy Analysis: We'll keep tabs on both Thomas and Bell leading up to Sunday's game, but if Bell doesn't get any practice in, his Cinderella story-like ride to Fantasy prominence will likely come to a screeching halt. Fantasy owners should prepare to use healthier Fantasy options for Week 3. If anything changes with Bell, we will let you know. (Updated 09/24/2009).

That changes nothing about what massraider said. Any roster that can afford to carry 4 or more RB's should hold onto him unless it's got at least four other starting caliber RB's already.

 

[gethugefast1]

Unless someone can show me Mike Triplett's medical degree, and his access to Bell's medical info, I am gonna go ahead and wait and see.

Source: cbssportline.comFantasy Analysis: We'll keep tabs on both Thomas and Bell leading up to Sunday's game, but if Bell doesn't get any practice in, his Cinderella story-like ride to Fantasy prominence will likely come to a screeching halt. Fantasy owners should prepare to use healthier Fantasy options for Week 3. If anything changes with Bell, we will let you know. (Updated 09/24/2009).

That changes nothing about what massraider said. Any roster that can afford to carry 4 or more RB's should hold onto him unless it's got at least four other starting caliber RB's already.

Exactly, but no one wants to miss out on a RB w/the potential stats Thomas put up the latter part of last year.

 

[TheFanatic]

I'm holding him in all 3 leagues I own him. Two are deep leagues, one isn't so deep (15 man rosters) but I have depth and can start 2RB, 2WR or 1 RB 3 WR.

First wait to get some corroboration to the 3-4 week time frame. And even if that is confirmed do you really think he will be relegated to the bench? Reggie just isn't getting 15 carries a game. He gets a few carries just to ensure that teams don't drop back to cover the pass when he lines up in the backfield.

Then you have two guys to be the primary ball carrier. PT tore it up last year but has injury problems. Bell tore it up this year albeit for only 2 games. I'm not counting preseason. Maybe they go full on three headed monster. Or maybe they have tryouts to see which one of these guys will get the majority of the touches? If they do, then would you want one of the two tickets in that lottery? Or are you so certain that there is only one ticket and it's initials are PT?

 

[saintfool]

the saints have two games before the bye week. they're going to rest him - pierre could use it too, i'm sure - and they'll be ready for action for the following game against the Giants.

 

[gethugefast1]

Mike Bell - RB - Saints

Mike Bell (knee) has been ruled out for Week 3.

The Week 1-2 hero remains without a timetable to return. It's been speculated by Saints beat writers that he will be sidelined for as long as a month.

Sep. 25 - 2:21 p.m. ET

Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune

 

[Breesisdaman]

Mike Bell - RB - Saints Mike Bell (knee) has been ruled out for Week 3. The Week 1-2 hero remains without a timetable to return. It's been speculated by Saints beat writers that he will be sidelined for as long as a month.Sep. 25 - 2:21 p.m. ET Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune

The key word in that sentence is "speculated". I would hold Bell if he were on my team.

 

[brindrod]

 

[Mr. Mojo]

I'm holding him in all 3 leagues I own him. Two are deep leagues, one isn't so deep (15 man rosters) but I have depth and can start 2RB, 2WR or 1 RB 3 WR. First wait to get some corroboration to the 3-4 week time frame. And even if that is confirmed do you really think he will be relegated to the bench? Reggie just isn't getting 15 carries a game. He gets a few carries just to ensure that teams don't drop back to cover the pass when he lines up in the backfield. Then you have two guys to be the primary ball carrier. PT tore it up last year but has injury problems. Bell tore it up this year albeit for only 2 games. I'm not counting preseason. Maybe they go full on three headed monster. Or maybe they have tryouts to see which one of these guys will get the majority of the touches? If they do, then would you want one of the two tickets in that lottery? Or are you so certain that there is only one ticket and it's initials are PT?

I'm right there with you Fanatic.I stashed him and am hoping we're high fiving each other after the bye when he has a strong 2nd half. If not, at leaast he came cheap.

 

[brindrod]

No idea how reliable these douches are;

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Pierre Thomas

By Brian Murphy, Friday, September 25, 2009

New Orleans Saints running back Pierre Thomas is listed as probable for Sunday's game against Buffalo after he practiced on Friday. Thomas will likely play in the game, but it is unknown how much he will play. With Mike Bell out with an MCL sprain, Thomas could be splitting carries with rookie Lynell Hamilton. When asked if Hamilton will take over Bell's role in the offense, Saints head coach Sean Payton said, "I don't think that's accurate." But he was evasive when asked specifically how the rushing touches will be divided between Hamilton, Thomas and Reggie Bush.

Fantasy Analysis:

OK, here is what we do know: Mike Bell will not play in this game. He will probably miss the next few games with that sprained knee as well. Hamilton and Thomas' role is very undefined, although Payton said Friday that Thomas is close to 100 percent. The matchup is only OK against the Bills, so if you can avoid this situation, do so. I have no idea what to expect out of the 6-foot, 235-pound Hamilton. Bush will get some carries as well, but he is just as viable as a receiver in that offense.

 

[sho nuff]

Mike Bell - RB - Saints Mike Bell (knee) has been ruled out for Week 3. The Week 1-2 hero remains without a timetable to return. It's been speculated by Saints beat writers that he will be sidelined for as long as a month.Sep. 25 - 2:21 p.m. ET Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune

The key word in that sentence is "speculated". I would hold Bell if he were on my team.

Oh, I think there is more key words to that sentence "speculated by Saints beat writers".

 

[two_dollars]

PT - Injury problems.

Bell - Injury problems.

Bush - Injury problems.

Hamilton - ??

 

[Breesisdaman]

PT - Injury problems.Bell - Injury problems.Bush - Injury problems.Hamilton - ??

Last year Hamilton was hurt he hasn't played this year so for now he is fine . Maybe PJ Hill is the guy to pick up if you are trying to avoid injuries in the Saints backfield.

 

[dotman]

I wouldn't drop the starter (yes the starter) just because he might miss a couple weeks. Pierre could take the job back, but until he actually does it would be dumb to drop Bell. Bell has looked good and got almost all the carries last week when Pierre was healthy. You can't assume Pierre will just take over for good if Bell is able to come back healthy soon.

 

[el-gato-grande]

It was quite shocking to me that Bell was the 4th leading rusher in the league after two weeks. That's pretty impressive.

 

[Breesisdaman]

It was quite shocking to me that Bell was the 4th leading rusher in the league after two weeks. That's pretty impressive.

True not bad for a cast off journey man.