Mike Hart (1 Viewer)

[Pound]

At 5'9", 200 lbs he's not a big RB but he's carrying the rock 35+ times a game for Michigan and just looks amazing. Doesn't take many big hits and is on pace for 2000 yards for this, his senior year. Anyone think the all-time leading Michigan RB (yards) is going to play a big role in the pros?

 

[Pound]

30 seconds after I post this Hart gets rolled up on and limps off the field. What a jinx ;P

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

30 seconds after I post this Hart gets rolled up on and limps off the field. What a jinx ;P

Lloyd Carr is going to run Hart into the ground just like he did with Chris Perry.Also, Jake Long is a stud, and I fear he may be inflating Hart's numbers (a few weeks ago they had a graphic about how much better Hart runs to the left than the middle or right).There is a lot to like about Hart though--shifty, low center of gravity, always falls forward, very football smart. The biggest knock on him is lack of top-end speed, but that isn't a death-knell for a RB.

 

[Pound]

There is a lot to like about Hart though--shifty, low center of gravity, always falls forward, very football smart. The biggest knock on him is lack of top-end speed, but that isn't a death-knell for a RB.

Yeah the shiftiness is the thing that really stands out. Although not really fair to compare him to B Sanders, he does make the first guy miss A LOT.

 

[ILoveMyLions]

30 seconds after I post this Hart gets rolled up on and limps off the field. What a jinx ;P

Lloyd Carr is going to run Hart into the ground just like he did with Chris Perry.Also, Jake Long is a stud, and I fear he may be inflating Hart's numbers (a few weeks ago they had a graphic about how much better Hart runs to the left than the middle or right).There is a lot to like about Hart though--shifty, low center of gravity, always falls forward, very football smart. The biggest knock on him is lack of top-end speed, but that isn't a death-knell for a RB.

You forgot never fumbles...He will play on Sundays and will be a starter eventually...

 

[428143]

What is the deal with Carr and the way he delegates RB carries. I remember A-Train would get 30 to 40, Perry as well, is this a good strategy?

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

What is the deal with Carr and the way he delegates RB carries. I remember A-Train would get 30 to 40, Perry as well, is this a good strategy?

It wins college football games but it is really unfair to the kids.

 

[JuniorNB]

What is the deal with Carr and the way he delegates RB carries. I remember A-Train would get 30 to 40, Perry as well, is this a good strategy?

It is a fine strategy for college. You feed your biggest weapon teh ball. The fact that it beats them up and wears them out before the pros isn't Carr's main concern.

 

[-OZ-]

30 seconds after I post this Hart gets rolled up on and limps off the field. What a jinx ;P

Lloyd Carr is going to run Hart into the ground just like he did with Chris Perry.Also, Jake Long is a stud, and I fear he may be inflating Hart's numbers (a few weeks ago they had a graphic about how much better Hart runs to the left than the middle or right).There is a lot to like about Hart though--shifty, low center of gravity, always falls forward, very football smart. The biggest knock on him is lack of top-end speed, but that isn't a death-knell for a RB.

You forgot never fumbles...He will play on Sundays and will be a starter eventually...

he will start, but as mentioned, the wear and tear is a concern.Talent plus college stats indicate he'll be a high 1st in FF, but one with hidden risk.

 

[whoknew]

He is also an excellent blocker -- especially for his size.

 

[Bears_Man2]

He'll play on Sundays. Backup with starter potential down the road.

 

[Pound]

Reports about his injury say sprained ankle. He was in street clothes walking around the sideline in the 2nd half.

 

[V1LL]

What is the deal with Carr and the way he delegates RB carries. I remember A-Train would get 30 to 40, Perry as well, is this a good strategy?

It wins college football games but it is really unfair to the kids.

I think these kids know what they are getting into when playing for Carr. If they were so worried about too many carries they could always declare for the draft.

 

[Kirby]

He'll be good in the right scheme... texans or broncos.

 

[DeCleater]

What is the deal with Carr and the way he delegates RB carries. I remember A-Train would get 30 to 40, Perry as well, is this a good strategy?

It wins college football games but it is really unfair to the kids.

I think these kids know what they are getting into when playing for Carr. If they were so worried about too many carries they could always declare for the draft.

First you have to show you can play on Sunday and the only way to do that is to get the ball.

 

[weasel3515]

What is the deal with Carr and the way he delegates RB carries. I remember A-Train would get 30 to 40, Perry as well, is this a good strategy?

It wins college football games but it is really unfair to the kids.

I think these kids know what they are getting into when playing for Carr. If they were so worried about too many carries they could always declare for the draft.

First you have to show you can play on Sunday and the only way to do that is to get the ball.

I despise Michigan (Go Hawks!) but must admit that I think Hart is the heart and soul of the team (no pun intended). I think he is the most deserving of those being considered for the Heisman and agree he should be playing on Sundays in the future.

 

[V1LL]

What is the deal with Carr and the way he delegates RB carries. I remember A-Train would get 30 to 40, Perry as well, is this a good strategy?

It wins college football games but it is really unfair to the kids.

I think these kids know what they are getting into when playing for Carr. If they were so worried about too many carries they could always declare for the draft.

First you have to show you can play on Sunday and the only way to do that is to get the ball.

his 800 touches BEFORE his senior year don't count?

 

[Da Guru]

I think Hart is a great college RB, not sure if he is fast enough for the NFL.

 

[Paper Lions]

He's definitely not "fast enough" technically, but we've all seen the guys who don't have the combine skills get passed over and work out. It's hard to believe a guy this good at Michigan can't play at all in the pros.

In addition to making the first guy miss a lot, he has decent to good hands and is an excellent blocker. And never fumbles.

He would seem to fit in as a third-down back right now, and if he can still make pro defenders glance off him like he is doing in college - he could see his role expand beyond that.

 

[Lombaowski]

He runs low to the ground and he runs really hard. Doesn't matter that he isn't blessed with great speed because he has a very strong lower body and the ability to break tackles with his running style. He may surprise people and be taken a lot higher on drat day than where he currently sits now. He may never be a start but he has the chance to be a 1000 yard rusher in a RBBC.

 

[gcoast3]

Big H(e)art, but a little overhyped.

44 carries against Penn State for 140+ yards. Then they talk how great? Give the ball to a lot of top college backs they would do better.

 

[CMU37484]

Although I think Hart stands at the top with Michigan RB's over the years, one thing to keep in mind is that Michigan rarely produces NFL backs that end up being every week studs in the NFL. Sure, plenty of guys get drafted and play in the pros, but you'll be hard pressed to find a UM running back that had much impact on the fantasy world. Names like Wheatley, Biakabutuka, Morris, Perry, etc. all come to my mind.

These guys were all studs at Michigan but one thing Michigan is always known for is having outstanding offensive lines. The holes are always there in college and they're usually huge holes. Don't get me wrong, I love Mike Hart as much as anyone and would LOVE to see him do well in the NFL, but he could easily be a product of a system as much as an all world talent. It may not be the best comparision but Michigan and their offensive line reminds me of the effect that the Broncos system and blocking has on their NFL backs. They produce RB's that put up impressive stats but once they move on to a different team (i.e. the NFL for Hart) the proof becomes evident.

Maybe I'm way off base but it seems to me that Mike Hart is just as much, or more, a reflection of Michigan football than his personal talent. That doesn't take anything away from his accomplishments, but it's makes me hesitant to label him an every Sunday stud 2-3 years from now.

 

[Paper Lions]

Big H(e)art, but a little overhyped.44 carries against Penn State for 140+ yards. Then they talk how great? Give the ball to a lot of top college backs they would do better.

Kind of cherry picking here, he's averaging 5.4 yards per carry on the year. His backup is averaging 4.1 YPC.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I have watched Michigan just about weekly for about the last 28 years. I love the Wolverines, comparable to my Cowboys.

It's my opinion that Anthony Thomas and Chris Perry are not as good as Mike Hart is. I do agree with you that Hart is getting a lot of carries in Michigan and how that affects his longevity in the NFL, I have no idea. There are a lot of guys who enjoy doing studies on that kind of stuff, I'm not one of them.

So, lets think about his first 5 years. I think he'll be more of a RBBC guy to start depending upon the team of course. But when he finally gets his chance, due to the other RBBC guy going down due to injury or whatever, he'll prosper. He does a nice job of keeping his leags moving, he's shifty, he's a solid pass blocker and he runs low to the ground near the goaline.

He's not going to knock everyone over at the goaline, but he finds the crease and hits it low. That's tough to stop considering his overall height.

Mike Hart will not be an extremely high draft choice and the team that does end up getting him will be fortunate because from listening on interviews and reading about him locally for the past 4 years, this is an exceptional kid. One thing not mentioned but is true is that he's a great leader.

It's not Henne who's the leader of this Michigan football team, it is Mike Hart by a longshot. He has a lot of heart (no pun intended) and the reason I mention this is a lot of times when you're undersized and not the prototypical size for your position, you need something extra from the inside. This is hard to measure and I'm sure as a talent scout, you don't want to get sucked up into, which is why some guys slide down and are 2nd and 3rd round steals.

I put my stamp of approval on Mike Hart and think he'll be a good football player and someone who you'd want on your football team.

 

[ILoveMyLions]

Big H(e)art, but a little overhyped.44 carries against Penn State for 140+ yards. Then they talk how great? Give the ball to a lot of top college backs they would do better.

To be fair to Mike, they had a Freshman in at QB and loaded up the line, at times bringing up both safeties. There were a few times he avoided people in the backfield and just got back to the line of scrimmage where most backs would gone down for a 3 yard loss. My point is that you can't just look at stat lines, if you listen to people who have seen him play, they'll tell you that he is the real deal. I've said this before, but he reminds me of a better Priest Holmes when he was at Texas. I'm not saying he'll go on to a better career than Priest, but that's the style of back he is IMO. For those who choose to not listen, you've been warned...

 

[yahtzee]

He'll be on an NFL team, but I have a hard time believing he will be a starter. Carr will have run this guy into the ground by the end of the season. But he does have many great attributes including blocking and shiftiness.

 

[Lee Dog]

Big H(e)art, but a little overhyped.44 carries against Penn State for 140+ yards. Then they talk how great? Give the ball to a lot of top college backs they would do better.

Plus they would put the ball on the turf once or twice.Mike Hart hasn't lost a fumble in like 800 carries. The value of having a back like that cannot be rated high enough.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

mike is a bit different from the others mentioned. mike has been 'the man' since like 3rd game in his freshman year, and getting 25+ touches ever since. the rest of the RB's at michigan always seemed to have a complimentary RB playing with them. chris perry for example had Askew pounding away the tough yards till perry's senior year. perry did get all the touches that year but he lived on the trainers table(foreshadowing).

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Mike Hart will not be a good NFL back.

His measurabled will be bad. IMo he's like a 4th round pick who adds depth to a team. Should not be counted on to be a fulltime NFl runner

 

[Brasco]

Hart won't be a 1st round draft pick, his measurables (he's not fast and it is unlikely that he is truly 5'9", probably shorter) will kill his draft stock once it comes to the combine and stuff. However, his vision is the best I've seen from a Mich back since I've been watching (a little more then 20 yrs). As others have mentioned, he never fumbles and always seems to be going forward when he's tackled. I'd love to know how his yards after contact stacks up with some of the other elite college backs. Henne tends to hold the ball in the pocket too long and Hart has saved him many times picking up the blitz as well. He's definitely the best Michigan RB that I've ever seen come through there. Hart is a "football player". He'll definitely have an NFL career and in a zone blocking scheme, he could be a star. Like others have said, he'll be one of those 2nd or 3rd round picks to keep an eye on, especially if he lands in Denver or Houston or GB.