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Mike Shannahan to Buffalo? (1 Viewer)

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This is something that's all over the local sports radio in Buffalo, WGR 550. Adam Schefter from ESPN is also reporting this. No link included (haven't looked), just been hearing this for the past half hour or so! News worthy for sure! Fingers crossed!

 
Scheduling a meeting is one thing...I will sit up and take notice if Shanny actually particpates in a meeting with Ralph.

 
Schefter mentions Kevin Gilbride as a potential candidate. I hope that's a joke. CFL coach Marc Trestman also? I guess that would go over well in Toronto.

 
Buffalo seems like one of the last NFL teams Shanahan would choose. But I guess I felt the same way about Terrell Owens last year...

 
If you've been following Thurman Thomas' Twitter page, and his attempt at being coy, he said earlier he would disclose who the mystery "credible" football person would be.Well, here it is:

Shanahan!!!!!!!have him in the box wit Mr. Wilson Sunday vs the Jags to look at what he can work with and make it better. To send a mgs
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*shrug*
 
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So...can anyone confirm if the Rooney Rule covers the GM position too?

If not...and Shanahan comes in to be the GM - and the HC - does he have to interview a minority candidate - and then tell them, in the interview follow up phone call that; "I decided to go in a different direction and hire "myself".

 
Schefter's report said that Shanahan did appear interested in the job. Something tells me that this would be a situation where he would either be brought in after the season, or as the football operations guy. They've apparently told Fewell that they are giving him a legitimate show at being the head coach, so I would think nothing would change this season.

Which makes it kind of odd to bring him in at this point unless you're going to make him the GM and leave open the HC position depending on how Fewell does.

 
On The Rocks said:
So...can anyone confirm if the Rooney Rule covers the GM position too?If not...and Shanahan comes in to be the GM - and the HC - does he have to interview a minority candidate - and then tell them, in the interview follow up phone call that; "I decided to go in a different direction and hire "myself".
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The Rooney Rule does indeed cover GMs now. If Shanahan is indeed hired as GM, I don't think the coaching interview would be all that tough since Fewell is the interim HC. The team could very easily interview him to see if he gets the HC job next year I would think.
 
Shanahan is the one coach that has shown that he can consistently beat Belichick. If your goal is to knock the Patriots from their loft in the AFC East, then this hiring makes sense.

 
On The Rocks said:
So...can anyone confirm if the Rooney Rule covers the GM position too?If not...and Shanahan comes in to be the GM - and the HC - does he have to interview a minority candidate - and then tell them, in the interview follow up phone call that; "I decided to go in a different direction and hire "myself".
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Shanny is a Skeletor/minor minion of Beelzebub. If that doesn't qualify him as a minority, I dunno what would.
 
Some reporter got the message seriously wrong when you look at this thread combined with the other one sending him to coach the CU Buffs.

Is he going to Buffalo (with an owner named Ralph)?

or to the Buffaloes (with a mascot named Ralphie)?

 
jesse said:
This is something that's all over the local sports radio in Buffalo, WGR 550. Adam Schefter from ESPN is also reporting this. No link included (haven't looked), just been hearing this for the past half hour or so! News worthy for sure! Fingers crossed!
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Now, if Wilson can also just lure Elway and Davis out of retirement, maybe Shanny can win another playoff game.
 
Football Jones said:
Please be true. Edwards could finally realize his potential with Shanny.

Their offense has been a joke. No imagination...nothing.
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Name a Broncos QB that progressed significantly under Shanny?Elway was already a HOFer before Shanny got there.

Bubby Brister?

Griese?

Frerotte?

Jarius Jackson?

Beuerlein?

Chris Miller?

Plummer?

Cutler?

Seems to me that Shanny has success with guys who have immense talent already. He struggles with guys who need "development", and he has a track record of going after vets as opposed to developing players. Cutler wasn't an experienced vet when he joined the Broncos, but he was an immense physical talent.

I don't know that I'd count on Shanny developing Edwards. He's just as likely (if not more likely) to replace him.

 
Brant said:
Football Jones said:
Please be true. Edwards could finally realize his potential with Shanny.

Their offense has been a joke. No imagination...nothing.
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Name a Broncos QB that progressed significantly under Shanny?Elway was already a HOFer before Shanny got there.

Bubby Brister?

Griese?

Frerotte?

Jarius Jackson?

Beuerlein?

Chris Miller?

Plummer?

Cutler?

Seems to me that Shanny has success with guys who have immense talent already. He struggles with guys who need "development", and he has a track record of going after vets as opposed to developing players. Cutler wasn't an experienced vet when he joined the Broncos, but he was an immense physical talent.
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Jake Plummer, for one. He played pretty damn well for most of his stay in Denver, except for most of 2006 before he was benched for Cutler. In Denver, Plummer threw 71 touchdowns and 47 interceptions. In Arizona, Plummer had thrown 90 touchdowns and 114 interceptions. I would call that significant progress. Jay Cutler has arguably significantly regressed without Shanahan this year.

Brian Griese didn't have the overall makeup to succeed in the long run, but he had an outstanding 2000 season.

Is it foolish to suggest that Mike Shanahan does not know what he is doing when it comes to quarterbacks. Shanahan almost always gets the most out of quarterbacks; that much is evident by looking at his track record.

 
Ghost Rider said:
Is it foolish to suggest that Mike Shanahan does not know what he is doing when it comes to quarterbacks. Shanahan almost always gets the most out of quarterbacks; that much is evident by looking at his track record.
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I agree with this 100%. He will squeeze whatever he can out of a QB and get some production. He's not quite Parcells in that aspect, but I'd trust him to make something of nothing.
 
Uhhhhhh, he made Cutler pretty good didn't he?

As long as Ralph Wilson is willing to give up control of the team entirely and pay him alotta money, he will be there. Redskins fans are delusional to think that Dan Snyder would give his team up to Shanahan. I honestly think that if he gets hired, I'd say he should take over as HC as soon as possible!

I don't think Edwards comes back whoever is coach. He will either find somebody he likes and trade for, draft, or sign them. A quarterback drafted and groomed by **** Jauron is the worst kind of QB you can inherit.

 
Brant said:
Football Jones said:
Please be true. Edwards could finally realize his potential with Shanny.

Their offense has been a joke. No imagination...nothing.
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Name a Broncos QB that progressed significantly under Shanny?Elway was already a HOFer before Shanny got there.

Bubby Brister?

Griese?

Frerotte?

Jarius Jackson?

Beuerlein?

Chris Miller?

Plummer?

Cutler?

Seems to me that Shanny has success with guys who have immense talent already. He struggles with guys who need "development", and he has a track record of going after vets as opposed to developing players. Cutler wasn't an experienced vet when he joined the Broncos, but he was an immense physical talent.

I don't know that I'd count on Shanny developing Edwards. He's just as likely (if not more likely) to replace him.
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Edwards has the talent, IMO. It won't be development as much as just giving him a fighting chance with a decent offensive system. Just fixing the OL would be a big improvement.I'm not making excuses for Edwards, but holy moly, the guy was doomed from the start. I believe Edwards will look totally different under Shanny if he gets the chance.

 
Ghost Rider said:
dgreen said:
PantherPower said:
As a Redskin fan.... :sadbanana:
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If Shanny entertains this idea, it's likely a very big slap in the face of Snyder. Reports a few weeks ago were that Snyder had talked to Shannahan and he said he didn't want to start midseason.
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Synder is a major league toolbag who probably deserves a good slap in the face.
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Still bitter from Super Bowl XXII, quarter 2? Wait....Doug just threw ANOTHER TD pass.If I make jokes avoiding the subject(Snyder), it makes it not real....right?
 
Brant said:
Name a Broncos QB that progressed significantly under Shanny?

Elway was already a HOFer before Shanny got there.

Bubby Brister?

Griese?

Frerotte?

Jarius Jackson?

Beuerlein?

Chris Miller?

Plummer?

Cutler?

Seems to me that Shanny has success with guys who have immense talent already. He struggles with guys who need "development", and he has a track record of going after vets as opposed to developing players. Cutler wasn't an experienced vet when he joined the Broncos, but he was an immense physical talent.

I don't know that I'd count on Shanny developing Edwards. He's just as likely (if not more likely) to replace him.
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I've always been skeptical of Mike Shanahan. The fact that some kid who just got his drivers license a few weeks ago has basically the same Denver team (with a downgrade at QB) playing better than Shanahan did last year only adds to that skepticism. Having said that, though, many of the guys on your list were just lousy quarterbacks, and that had nothing to do with Shanahan, other than the fact that he's the one who signed them in the first place. It's not like Jarius Jackson had HOF talent that all went to waste under Shanny's tutelage. On the contrary, several of the guys you listed performed a lot better under Shanahan than they did elsewhere. Griese was at least effective for Denver. Elsewhere, no so much. Plummer had his best years in Denver. Cutler looked a lot better playing for Shanahan than he does now. Granted, it's hard to attritube this sort of thing entirely to coaching. Jake Plummer, for example, had a much better supporting cast in Denver than he did in Arizona, and maybe Griese just goes to show how good that supporting cast really was. But there's really no way to use the list you provided as an argument against Shanahan's ability to develop QBs. What it shows is either that Shanahan is a master of getting the most out of his signal-callers or he's a master at surrounding them with the tools they need to maximize their potential. Either way, you've presented a pro-Shanahan argument, not an anti-Shanahan argument.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
Brant said:
Name a Broncos QB that progressed significantly under Shanny?

Elway was already a HOFer before Shanny got there.

Bubby Brister?

Griese?

Frerotte?

Jarius Jackson?

Beuerlein?

Chris Miller?

Plummer?

Cutler?

Seems to me that Shanny has success with guys who have immense talent already. He struggles with guys who need "development", and he has a track record of going after vets as opposed to developing players. Cutler wasn't an experienced vet when he joined the Broncos, but he was an immense physical talent.

I don't know that I'd count on Shanny developing Edwards. He's just as likely (if not more likely) to replace him.
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I've always been skeptical of Mike Shanahan. The fact that some kid who just got his drivers license a few weeks ago has basically the same Denver team (with a downgrade at QB) playing better than Shanahan did last year only adds to that skepticism. Having said that, though, many of the guys on your list were just lousy quarterbacks, and that had nothing to do with Shanahan, other than the fact that he's the one who signed them in the first place. It's not like Jarius Jackson had HOF talent that all went to waste under Shanny's tutelage. On the contrary, several of the guys you listed performed a lot better under Shanahan than they did elsewhere. Griese was at least effective for Denver. Elsewhere, no so much. Plummer had his best years in Denver. Cutler looked a lot better playing for Shanahan than he does now. Granted, it's hard to attritube this sort of thing entirely to coaching. Jake Plummer, for example, had a much better supporting cast in Denver than he did in Arizona, and maybe Griese just goes to show how good that supporting cast really was. But there's really no way to use the list you provided as an argument against Shanahan's ability to develop QBs. What it shows is either that Shanahan is a master of getting the most out of his signal-callers or he's a master at surrounding them with the tools they need to maximize their potential. Either way, you've presented a pro-Shanahan argument, not an anti-Shanahan argument.
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I'll never understand how anyone compares a 14yr sample size to 1, or less than 1. Lets see how many teams want to pay McDaniels in 2023. Three years ago at this time Eric Mangini was considered brilliant. The '05 team that beat NE had Champ Bailey and what else? No pass-rushers, and ordinary talent on offense at best. I think he's a damn good coach but he doesn't strike me as a personnel wizard by any stretch.

 
Brant said:
Football Jones said:
Please be true. Edwards could finally realize his potential with Shanny.

Their offense has been a joke. No imagination...nothing.
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Name a Broncos QB that progressed significantly under Shanny?Elway was already a HOFer before Shanny got there.

Bubby Brister?

Griese?

Frerotte?

Jarius Jackson?

Beuerlein?

Chris Miller?

Plummer?

Cutler?

Seems to me that Shanny has success with guys who have immense talent already. He struggles with guys who need "development", and he has a track record of going after vets as opposed to developing players. Cutler wasn't an experienced vet when he joined the Broncos, but he was an immense physical talent.

I don't know that I'd count on Shanny developing Edwards. He's just as likely (if not more likely) to replace him.
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I highlighted the guys who I thought improved under Shanahan's tutelage. I'd add Danny Kanell and Beuerlein could go either way but I left him off since he had a pretty decent career prior to that. Can you honestly say you aren';t impressed with how Shanahan molded Jake Plummer into a Pro Bowl QB after the Cardinals of all teams gave up on him? Griese had his best years under Shanahan (and a Pro Bowl). Frerotte set some team records and was a serviceable starter while he was in Denver. Brister was very good in Elway's absence, etc...
 
Bills_Fan11 said:
I'll never understand how anyone compares a 14yr sample size to 1, or less than 1. Lets see how many teams want to pay McDaniels in 2023. Three years ago at this time Eric Mangini was considered brilliant.

The '05 team that beat NE had Champ Bailey and what else? No pass-rushers, and ordinary talent on offense at best. I think he's a damn good coach but he doesn't strike me as a personnel wizard by any stretch.
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:kicksrock: And to address the part I bolded, Mike Shanahan led a team quarterbacked by Jake freaking Plummer to the AFC title game and a playoff win over the Patriots, their first playoff loss in the Belichick/Brady era.

 
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