Mike Vick is better than "X" number of starting QBs (1 Viewer)

[theglorydays]

He was a very, very good, exciting, seat-filling, ratings-drawing, and, yes, winning quarterback.

Was.

Let's face it no one know what he is now until he gets a full training camp and preseason in.

And even if by next year he is the old Vick, the 1000 yard rushing Vick, a team would have to totally revamp their offense around him. When he was the no. 1 overall draft pick in the NFL that was almost a priority, the Falcons had to do that.

But really what was Vick's record in 4th quarter comebacks? Does anyone have that, because the way i recall it if a team went up on Vick he had a pretty tough time bringing his teams back.

And does anyone remember back when Roddy White - Roddy White - couldn't "catch"? Remember that? Neither could Michael Jenkins or Laurent Robinson supposedly.

Well, they can catch now.

How do you think that's going to play with a team's WR's when the GM announces "Hey guess what guys we're gonna have a new offense next year and you'll have 30 fewer catches!"

It wouldn't surprise me if Vick lands on a roster, ends up 2nd string, and then IF he lands somewhere like a Cleveland and things are going to pot the coaching staff realizes that Vick can single handedly keep them competitive and they end up plugging him in. I mean if the Browns are playing DA over Quinn then they might as well play a Vick over a DA. A team like the Raiders on the other hand keeps all QB competition from their prescious Russell so he never gets overtaken in the first place. It's not just a question of who's better or who's best, it's just that Vick is no longer the future for anyone, he's more or less Bobby Douglass right now, a far superior QB than him right now but more or less in the same place anyway - a specialty player who may or may not become a starter and get relied upon if things get bad.

 

[Das Boot]

Jake Delhomme

Jamarcus Russell

Chad Henne

Marc Bulger

Derrick Anderson/Brady Quinn

Josh Freeman

With the lone exception of Jamarcus Russel, every one of those guys can hit the broad side of a barn. Vick is a horrible, horrible QB.

no he isnt.

Who's better?...Vick or Leinart?

Was this a tough question?

 

[Tex Goldstein]

0 he's done, the wasted time in prison and his lack of motivation are evident. Now that the judge handed him $16 million he didn't earn, he'll try to find one more sucker club for a few million and then sluff off to oblivion.

 

[nysportsfan]

tapperoo

 

[LHUCKS]

tapperoo

 

[cvnpoka]

hes worse than

manning

rivers

brees

brady

rodgers

 

[LHUCKS]

hes worse thanmanningriversbreesbradyrodgers

We'll agree to disagree.

 

[Scooter71]

Sorry, but I wouldn't part with him for any of those guys -- not four weeks ago, and definitely not now.

hes worse thanmanningriversbreesbradyrodgers

 

[LHUCKS]

Sorry, but I wouldn't part with him for any of those guys -- not four weeks ago, and definitely not now.

hes worse thanmanningriversbreesbradyrodgers

Brady, Manning are the only two in the ballpark. Rivers and Rodgers not even in the conversation.

 

[Raider Nation]

Brady, Manning are the only two in the ballpark. Rivers and Rodgers not even in the conversation.

I'm begging all of you -- please ignore this weak bait and I promise he'll get bored and go away.

 

[cvnpoka]

Sorry, but I wouldn't part with him for any of those guys -- not four weeks ago, and definitely not now.

hes worse thanmanningriversbreesbradyrodgers

well i was talking real life football and not the fantasy persuasion. in ff, id only take rivers and mebbe rodgers over vick.

 

[Truman]

Right now Vick is better then no starting NFL QBs. He could potentially become better than 8 of them IMO.

 

[Truman]

Brady, Manning are the only two in the ballpark. Rivers and Rodgers not even in the conversation.

I'm begging all of you -- please ignore this weak bait and I promise he'll get bored and go away.

How is Aaron Rodgers better than Vick?

 

[nysportsfan]

0 he's done, the wasted time in prison and his lack of motivation are evident. Now that the judge handed him $16 million he didn't earn, he'll try to find one more sucker club for a few million and then sluff off to oblivion.

He faded right off into Bolivia. How long can Vick last with his legs at this level? 1 year, 2? 3-4? I think that makes all the difference. Will a 35 yr old Vick be able to scramble? I know it doesn't matter now, but how about dynasty?I'd hate to anoint anyone so quickly, but there are only a handful of guys I'd take over him. I would also have a quality backup like Kolb, given the nature of Vick's game.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Vick has looked absolutely lost whenever he's been on the field, he can't run without falling, he has no vision, he can still wind up and hurl the rock ... only his accuracy is more questionable than it ever was in the past ... he's toast, stick a fork in him he's done like dinner ...

Solid.

 

[thehornet]

Jake Delhomme

Jamarcus Russell

Chad Henne

Marc Bulger

Derrick Anderson/Brady Quinn

Josh Freeman

With the lone exception of Jamarcus Russel, every one of those guys can hit the broad side of a barn. Vick is a horrible, horrible QB.

no he isnt.

He was barely capable prior to his incarceration. Great athletic talent and he has a cannon for an arm. He just isn't very accurate. IMHO, accuracy is second only to reading defenses as far as what I want in my QB.

update on being horrible please.

 

[thehornet]

he will never ever start another nfl game. i wish the eagles would stop using the wildcat. its a waste of plays.

ouch

 

[thehornet]

To Date Vick is 2/6 for 6Yds Passing and 12/27Yds Rushing on the season .... there really are very few "dog's" any worse than that in any league, let alone the NFL ... I'm sure Philly are happy with their $1.5 Million investment.

What are you talking about? He doesnt play, so why are you bringing up stats tat have no meaning.

How do you have stats if you don't play???????????????????????????????????

The guys sucks so get over him!

Sure he's played 3 plays all year. I guess that's "playing"We'll see if he still sucks if he gets a starting gig.

Your man love is showing.

 

[LHUCKS]

Poor showing by the "shark pool" here...wow.

 

[LHUCKS]

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Wanted to get this down before everybody rushes in and skews the original results of this poll.Perhaps the "sharks" should take a step back and ask why they completely missed the boat on Vick.

 

[LittlePhatty]

LHUCKS, do you make quote fingers in the air when you type things like "sharks" or "experts"?

 

[CaptainHook]

arent u the guy that was obsessed with matt leinart

 

[LHUCKS]

arent u the guy that was obsessed with matt leinart

still underrated

 

[scratcher]

Quality bump

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Poor showing by the "shark pool" here...wow.

I think most people not just the Shark Pool had him down and out a year ago and certainly what he's done this year wasn't easy to predict. He's playing better right now than he did before his leave of absence.Did you participate in any redraft leagues that were 12 or 14 where Vick was even drafted? I didn't, and all of those people in the leagues I was in aren't in the Shark Pool, it's basically what most people thought heading into the season, including HIS coach who had him as the backup.

 

[imagroid]

arent u the guy that was obsessed with matt leinart

still underrated

Hard to rate a guy that hasn't played all year.