Chaser1439
Footballguy
What can be offered to go get this guy?
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papalazarou
Footballguy
Am an Austin owner, hoping to swap for G Jennings in my league.
Nicolas Cocaign
Footballguy
The guy in my league who has Austin, lost Dallas Clark and has been rolling with Ben Watson at TE. I offered Jennings and Zach Miller and got rejected.
Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
I have Austin and I wouldn't trade him for Greg Jennings.
We don't even know what will happen yet - we need to see 1 game with Kitna getting a full week of practice with the 1st team.
I think they will develop some sort of Chemistry.
We don't even know what will happen yet - we need to see 1 game with Kitna getting a full week of practice with the 1st team.
I think they will develop some sort of Chemistry.
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
Isn;t it a concern that Austin has bad games 3 out of the last 4 weeks? I also didn't like 2-3 balls he should have caught and didn't. Kitna can't be a good thing for him.
packersfan
Footballguy
I have Austin and I would make that trade and that's not a homer call. Jennings' production is on the rise with Finley out (12 receptions and two TDs) while Austin has had three poor games in the past four, including being ignored by Kitna Monday night. That could change with Kitna getting more reps in practice with Austin but I still think Jennings is someone to target in trades although his price has surely gone way up after the last two games.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Would you Please explain your post?1) The title asks about "buying low"........do you really think that anyone who has Austin wants to sell low?2) You ask "what can be offered to get this guy?" Aside from the terrible use of the English language, what exactly do you want people to tell you? What they would accept? What you should offer? Interesting since no one knows (or cares) who is on your roster, so3) Shouldn't you discuss this with more information in the Assistant Coach Forum (see the bold, black bar above the one that says replying to Miles Austin)
fightingillini
Footballguy
Just traded Austin in one league. It's a superflex league and I need a QB (only have Rodgers as a healthy QB) and the other owner had QB depth and needed a WR. I gave up Austin and Jonathan Stewart and got McNabb and Wallace.
fightingillini
Footballguy
Especially since Finley went down for the year, and Driver is banged up as well.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Yeah, in a dynasty league I would gladly give up Jennings for Austin.
I have Austin, and unless I am receiving something hefty back - he stays.
Kitna will not be Romo and that will have an impact, but it's not like Austin will suddenly fall of the face of the planet. He will be a very good #2 the rest of the way and someone you start consistently.
Kitna is not Brad Johnson, and he is more than happy the sling it around - over the next couple of weeks, Austin will settle in and Kitna will build a rapport with him.
Kitna will not be Romo and that will have an impact, but it's not like Austin will suddenly fall of the face of the planet. He will be a very good #2 the rest of the way and someone you start consistently.
Kitna is not Brad Johnson, and he is more than happy the sling it around - over the next couple of weeks, Austin will settle in and Kitna will build a rapport with him.
Resident A
Footballguy
I'm gonna offer Fitzgerald to the Austin owner, who is 1-6. I can't see Austin being any worse than Fitz.
Clifford
Footballguy
Would you consider trading him for any of the following:HarvinSteve JohnsonMike X Williams?
No way! NONE of those guys come close to Austin's upside if Kitna can play anywhere near the level he played in the 4th quater Monday night.
Gotta love the smart/tough/mall-cop-type guys in the Shark Pool.
packersfan
Footballguy
Harvin maybe. I have a tough time believing Steve Johnson will keep up his pace but if he does he could outperform Austin too. I don't think this is the week to trade Austin. Granted, he's been brutal in three of the past four games but the matchup this week against the Jags is ridiculously easy. There is certainly risk involved in Austin getting ignored by Kitna again but if Austin cashes in this week due to the easy matchup his value will rise and you can likely get more for him by trade next week. So I would actually hold Austin unless I was getting a WR I definitely believed could outperform him the rest of the way like Jennings.
If I was in a league that starts 3 WR and I had Miles Austin, Brian Robiskie and Andre Roberts as my starting 3, I would take these three guys for Austin. Otherwise, not a chance. And definitely not straight up for any one of them.
Clifford
Footballguy
That was a sanity check. You passed.
John 14:6
Jesus is Lord!
Agreed. I can definitely see the argument for posting this in the ACF, but it can be pointed out nicely...
Chaser1439
Footballguy
Instead of trying to tear threads down why don't you come up with something original. Everyone else has turned this thread into something valuable so go screw captain hook. The question is simple. Is Austin a buy low candidate, and if so, what are other intelligent fantasy owners offering for him. It is guys like you that give a bad name to the Shark Pool. They should create another section in the Subforums called "Hall Monitors" or "Loser Turds".
Sack-Religious
Footballguy
I've got Austin and I'm currently entertaining offers for him.
While his stat line looked decidedly meh on MNF, he's normally got great hands so notwithstanding his other targets if he makes the catch on his two drops, his statline looks more like 5-70 and a TD.
I saw another poster saying that Austin was ignored by Kitna, that's not entirely true. Austin was targeted 8 times during the game, but was targeted by Kitna 5 times, one of which was in the endzone.
Nobody cares about my team, but I've got depth at WR and I'm a little thin at RB so I'm considering moving Austin for SJax, Jamaal Charles or guys like Jahvid Best in a PPR league.
While his stat line looked decidedly meh on MNF, he's normally got great hands so notwithstanding his other targets if he makes the catch on his two drops, his statline looks more like 5-70 and a TD.
I saw another poster saying that Austin was ignored by Kitna, that's not entirely true. Austin was targeted 8 times during the game, but was targeted by Kitna 5 times, one of which was in the endzone.
Nobody cares about my team, but I've got depth at WR and I'm a little thin at RB so I'm considering moving Austin for SJax, Jamaal Charles or guys like Jahvid Best in a PPR league.
Dizzy
Footballguy
Not an Austin owner, but if I was I would certainly entertain offers. And I would take Greg Jennings based on their respective QB situations alone.
It's going to be a key weekend for Austin owners... another stinker and his value is all but gone. With only 2 TD's so far it isn't as though he has been setting the world on fire anyway.
It all rests with your confidence in Kitna at this point... he's no spring chicken and may get knocked around more than Romo did. He may look to Witten more often as well.
No love affair between Kitna and Austin (like there was with Romo).
Just a hunch here of course, but I say; bump to Witten, bump to Bryant, bump to the RB's, and Austin or Roy Williams really suffers.
It's going to be a key weekend for Austin owners... another stinker and his value is all but gone. With only 2 TD's so far it isn't as though he has been setting the world on fire anyway.
It all rests with your confidence in Kitna at this point... he's no spring chicken and may get knocked around more than Romo did. He may look to Witten more often as well.
No love affair between Kitna and Austin (like there was with Romo).
Just a hunch here of course, but I say; bump to Witten, bump to Bryant, bump to the RB's, and Austin or Roy Williams really suffers.
THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA
Footballguy
Im a Austin owner in a few dynastys, and im not shopping and his value is still viewed the same for me. His price tag is still reasonably high considering he is a good/talented dynasty wr. If Nicks has 5 bad games in a row i wouldnt shop him either very cheap, again i play in dynastys, but in redraft i would make moves.
Don't even give Captain Hook a second thought. I have no idea who he is, but it's quite obvious by his post that he's just a troll.The funny thing is, he tries belittling you, but he seems to be the only one lacking the intelligence to understand your question. He seems like a real tough guy. Probably works out.
SWC
Bromigo
Im sorry about that i must have been typing something else and gotten messed up and hit post. That's on me.I think i would definitely go after Austin as Kitna might be playing from behind a lot and looking to toss teh ball around to catch up and austin may get a lot of looks, and notably some looks in garbage time.SolidSWC said:
NatronIsMean
Footballguy
This is a terrible post. If you didn't understand his post, that's on you. It was a fine post and extremely straight forward. Methinks your feelings are hurt that Austin's stock has dropped and you're just taking it out on him. Austin is in fact a "buy low" guy. The reason is there are owners out there that think it could get worse with Kitna. I'm targeting him but you bet I'm offering less than I would have had to offer 3-4 weeks ago.
THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA
Footballguy
i know the owner on the other end of this is happy as ####s if you offer him that.
bobfreakinvilla
Footballguy
I am an Austin owner and I wouldn't sell him unless I got a pretty substantial offer for him. In spite of his 3 poor games, dude is still on pace to catch 96 balls this year and, given his QB situation, I think he could be even more solid in a PPR league. Kitna doesn't have the arm or pocket awareness that Romo has, but these Cowboys are going to be playing from behind quite a bit and I am sure the offense will take what the defense is giving them, meaning a lot of underneath routes for the WRs/TEs. Austin is no one trick pony and while I don't foresee games with a stat line of 10/160/1TD, I think you will see games with stat lines of 7/90/1TD.
In addition to that, they have the Jags this week, an opponent whom I think will provide Kitna with some confidence going forward.
Austin is a definite HOLD IMHO.
In addition to that, they have the Jags this week, an opponent whom I think will provide Kitna with some confidence going forward.
Austin is a definite HOLD IMHO.
Pnishthm
Footballguy
I own Austin and I do plan on shopping him as I think his value has to take a hit, but not just yet. The Boys play one of the worst pass defenses in the NFL this week and I am hoping he has a solid game. If so I will look to get market value for him right after. If he ends up bombing this week I will likely try and sell him at a reduced price but nothing overly crazy low.
thehornet
Footballguy
dallas is a totally different team. And Kitna is better than both Anderson and Hall combined.
packersfan
Footballguy
I agree Kitna is better but in my opinion Fitzgerald is much better than Austin. I love Miles but Fitzgerald in my opinion is a Hall of Fame talent and unlike Austin he really doesn't have anyone decent to compete with for targets.
the spanker
Footballguy
I agree but how has that worked out for him? HOF talent or not, balls thrown to him have been so bad, they've landed in another zipcode.I'll gamble on Austin have a better season going forward than Larry. Yeah I know I'm praying because I just traded Larry for Austin!
packersfan
Footballguy
That's part of my point. If a potential HOF talent can be rendered useless by a downgrade at QB, it's not difficult to imagine a lesser talent (and I don't mean that as a criticism, just in terms of comparing Austin to Fitz) also losing value - and perhaps extreme value - due to a downgrade at QB. I think we all should agree that Kitna isn't as good as Romo and therefore Austin will likely lose value. The question is how much? That's what we don't know although the early signs (Week 7) were extremely negative. But we'll find out more on Sunday and hopefully for Austin owners his value will rise.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Kitna is FAR better than any QB that is playing in Arizona now. I think some are overestimating the dropoff at QB in Dallas.
packersfan
Footballguy
No question he's much better than what Arizona has but I think Romo is far and away a better QB than Kitna. Even with better offensive lines, Kitna was prone to sacks and poor decisions. The Cowboys' line has had issues all season. That doesn't bode well in my opinion for a 38-year-old QB who previously struggled to avoid sacks in his salad days.
the spanker
Footballguy
Are you sitting Austin this week? And if so, for who?
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packersfan
Footballguy
I'm starting him because of the matchup. However, I have lowered my expectations considerably. I no longer view Austin as a stud WR1. I now view him as a WR2/3 (and honestly he hasn't been that good the last two games) so that is where my projections for this week will reside. I hope like hell I'm wrong because essentially losing Miles Austin in Week 7 is not what my team needed this season.
Sack-Religious
Footballguy
Re: the bold.I've gone through the gamebook and this is how the targets broke down for the Cowboys once Romo went out.
Witten: 12, including one on a 2 pt. conversion.
Bryant: 7
Austin: 5, including one in the endzone on a 4th down conversion attempt.
FJones: 4
Williams: 3
Hurd: 3
Gronkowski: 1
Austin's stats were not good, but all but 3 of Kitna's passes were short. The vast majority of which went to Witten, which makes sense as the TE is a security blanket for the QB. Coming into the game with virtually no reps with the first team, you'd expect Kitna to keep things simple. What's more shocking to me is the sheer volume of short passes in a sample size of 30+.
His 3 mid-range to deep passes were to Bryant (2) - both incomplete and Austin (1) a 17 yard skinny post. The gamebook classifies Austin's catch as "short right" but if I recall correctly, it wasn't a catch and run, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
All that said, Kitna went to Austin on a key 4th down conversion attempt in the endzone, so he's obviously got confidence in him. With a full week of practice I'd expect Kitna to become more comfortable with all his WR's at various route depths and I'd expect the targets to even out a little more. Austin's normally very sure handed, so if he doesn't have 2 horrible drops earlier in the game, his stat line wouldn't even look as bad as it did. The other thing Austin's got going for him is that he can run every route, short, medium and long and is excellent after the catch so he isn't reliant on one type of route for his points.
Long story longer, yes Austin's value takes a bit of a hit, but this weekend's games will likely answer a lot of the questions and it's not like Austin was completely ignored in terms of targets. His relative absence of stats is due to a great NYG pass rush that forced Kitna to throw over 90% of his passes short which resulted in a lot of dump-offs to his security blanket TE.
packersfan
Footballguy
I don't want to rehash the Monday night game again but I only recall two passes from Kitna going to Austin. I know he officially had five targets but the only two I remember being at least reasonably close to him were the one he caught and the one in the end zone (which he had no chance to realistically catch because it was a bad throw by Kitna). But even if it actually was five actual targets for Austin the fact his he was third on the team in targets from Kitna and second at his own position. Perhaps it's just semantics but I view that as being major negatives.
As an Austin owner I'm hoping a week of practice with the starters will help Kitna get on the same page with Austin. We'll see.
As an Austin owner I'm hoping a week of practice with the starters will help Kitna get on the same page with Austin. We'll see.
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Wolfpacker
Footballguy
You're crazy.
