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I think Gen X are folks that are around 40 now. Wiki ses to define them as those born between 61-81 although that's a big disparity. I'm thinking of those who started adult life in the late 80's-mid 90's. Probably many of the posters here. Check this chart of DJIA and tell me that starting career and investment then was a good or bad thing. http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/historical/djia1900.htmlumm... No major economic crises? Investment and employment? When do you think Gen X was? Ever hear of Black Monday? The Lincoln Savings and Loan scandal?mr roboto said:No major wars. No major economic crises. Young adult age was decent to great for both investment and employment.Doctor Detroit said:Lots of nonfactual stuff in here. Saying Gen X won the birth lottery is about the funniest thing anyone has ever said on these boards. Comedian?mr roboto said:cstu said:Gen X is doing well because they won the birth lottery. They came of age in the 80s and went into the job market in the 90s. They bought homes in the 90s and saw the tech and housing run up. Now they are old enough to make it through the recession by having resumes that give them advantages over younger job seekers, but aren't so old that it's a detriment.Millennial a graduated college after 05. I graduated in 05 and it was ok for about 2 years. Those of us who managed to buy a home at a young age got screwed by baby boomer and Gen X buyers tanking the mortgage industry. The jobs that college grads used to get aren't nearly as available.
Oh, and who raised the Millennials? The most self centered generation in US history - Boomers.
How about the Cold War? Certainty that someone was going to drop a nuclear weapon? AIDS?
Then you're insane, because if you started your retirement account in 1985 it was decimated by black Monday in 1987, built back up to huge highs until the crash a few years ago, and you'd be gearing up to retire in about 15 years while starting from that level.I think Gen X are folks that are around 40 now. Wiki ses to define them as those born between 61-81 although that's a big disparity. I'm thinking of those who started adult life in the late 80's-mid 90's. Probably many of the posters here. Check this chart of DJIA and tell me that starting career and investment then was a good or bad thing. http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/historical/djia1900.htmlumm... No major economic crises? Investment and employment? When do you think Gen X was? Ever hear of Black Monday? The Lincoln Savings and Loan scandal?mr roboto said:No major wars. No major economic crises. Young adult age was decent to great for both investment and employment.Doctor Detroit said:Lots of nonfactual stuff in here. Saying Gen X won the birth lottery is about the funniest thing anyone has ever said on these boards. Comedian?mr roboto said:cstu said:
Oh, and who raised the Millennials? The most self centered generation in US history - Boomers.
How about the Cold War? Certainty that someone was going to drop a nuclear weapon? AIDS?
From 87-2001 inflation adjusted military spending decreased which indicates relative reduction in military conflict https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/onEnqLi0HFt9foL7L9ei_ulqADT8-jAGk4I6vId1Z3Zhocs0TBO2T34VhH3B1j3jt8XlTXCbMQfjpoa_ALDyk-QfF-
H8TsFAoXy2fXDsBdyJTKSsk0-W4UGH8Q=w452-h311-nc
Were there global conflicts and economic downturns? Of course. But I would rather have grown a career and begin a retirement account from 1985-2000 than from 2000-present.
Are you arguing that 85-00 wasn't better than 00-14?Then you're insane, because if you started your retirement account in 1985 it was decimated by black Monday in 1987, built back up to huge highs until the crash a few years ago, and you'd be gearing up to retire in about 15 years while starting from that level.If there's going to be a crash, you want it early in your investment life.I think Gen X are folks that are around 40 now. Wiki ses to define them as those born between 61-81 although that's a big disparity. I'm thinking of those who started adult life in the late 80's-mid 90's. Probably many of the posters here. Check this chart of DJIA and tell me that starting career and investment then was a good or bad thing. http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/historical/djia1900.htmlumm... No major economic crises? Investment and employment? When do you think Gen X was? Ever hear of Black Monday? The Lincoln Savings and Loan scandal?mr roboto said:No major wars. No major economic crises. Young adult age was decent to great for both investment and employment.Doctor Detroit said:Lots of nonfactual stuff in here. Saying Gen X won the birth lottery is about the funniest thing anyone has ever said on these boards. Comedian?mr roboto said:cstu said:
Oh, and who raised the Millennials? The most self centered generation in US history - Boomers.
How about the Cold War? Certainty that someone was going to drop a nuclear weapon? AIDS?
From 87-2001 inflation adjusted military spending decreased which indicates relative reduction in military conflict https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/onEnqLi0HFt9foL7L9ei_ulqADT8-jAGk4I6vId1Z3Zhocs0TBO2T34VhH3B1j3jt8XlTXCbMQfjpoa_ALDyk-QfF-
H8TsFAoXy2fXDsBdyJTKSsk0-W4UGH8Q=w452-h311-nc
Were there global conflicts and economic downturns? Of course. But I would rather have grown a career and begin a retirement account from 1985-2000 than from 2000-present.
No, I'm arguing that Gen X didn't empty their investment and retirement accounts and hang it up in 2000.Are you arguing that 85-00 wasn't better than 00-14?Then you're insane, because if you started your retirement account in 1985 it was decimated by black Monday in 1987, built back up to huge highs until the crash a few years ago, and you'd be gearing up to retire in about 15 years while starting from that level.If there's going to be a crash, you want it early in your investment life.I think Gen X are folks that are around 40 now. Wiki ses to define them as those born between 61-81 although that's a big disparity. I'm thinking of those who started adult life in the late 80's-mid 90's. Probably many of the posters here. Check this chart of DJIA and tell me that starting career and investment then was a good or bad thing. http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/historical/djia1900.htmlumm... No major economic crises? Investment and employment? When do you think Gen X was? Ever hear of Black Monday? The Lincoln Savings and Loan scandal?mr roboto said:No major wars. No major economic crises. Young adult age was decent to great for both investment and employment.Doctor Detroit said:Lots of nonfactual stuff in here. Saying Gen X won the birth lottery is about the funniest thing anyone has ever said on these boards. Comedian?mr roboto said:cstu said:
Oh, and who raised the Millennials? The most self centered generation in US history - Boomers.
How about the Cold War? Certainty that someone was going to drop a nuclear weapon? AIDS?
From 87-2001 inflation adjusted military spending decreased which indicates relative reduction in military conflict https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/onEnqLi0HFt9foL7L9ei_ulqADT8-jAGk4I6vId1Z3Zhocs0TBO2T34VhH3B1j3jt8XlTXCbMQfjpoa_ALDyk-QfF-
H8TsFAoXy2fXDsBdyJTKSsk0-W4UGH8Q=w452-h311-nc
Were there global conflicts and economic downturns? Of course. But I would rather have grown a career and begin a retirement account from 1985-2000 than from 2000-present.
Ok, fine. Sorry I can't stretch out time in the future to provide a longitudinal competitive analysis of which generation fared better wrt DJIA. If you and I are still around when the Millennial gen is retired we'll throw that into a spreadsheet.No, I'm arguing that Gen X didn't empty their investment and retirement accounts and hang it up in 2000.Are you arguing that 85-00 wasn't better than 00-14?Then you're insane, because if you started your retirement account in 1985 it was decimated by black Monday in 1987, built back up to huge highs until the crash a few years ago, and you'd be gearing up to retire in about 15 years while starting from that level.If there's going to be a crash, you want it early in your investment life.I think Gen X are folks that are around 40 now. Wiki ses to define them as those born between 61-81 although that's a big disparity. I'm thinking of those who started adult life in the late 80's-mid 90's. Probably many of the posters here. Check this chart of DJIA and tell me that starting career and investment then was a good or bad thing. http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/historical/djia1900.htmlumm... No major economic crises? Investment and employment? When do you think Gen X was? Ever hear of Black Monday? The Lincoln Savings and Loan scandal?mr roboto said:No major wars. No major economic crises. Young adult age was decent to great for both investment and employment.Doctor Detroit said:Lots of nonfactual stuff in here. Saying Gen X won the birth lottery is about the funniest thing anyone has ever said on these boards. Comedian?mr roboto said:cstu said:
Oh, and who raised the Millennials? The most self centered generation in US history - Boomers.
How about the Cold War? Certainty that someone was going to drop a nuclear weapon? AIDS?
From 87-2001 inflation adjusted military spending decreased which indicates relative reduction in military conflict https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/onEnqLi0HFt9foL7L9ei_ulqADT8-jAGk4I6vId1Z3Zhocs0TBO2T34VhH3B1j3jt8XlTXCbMQfjpoa_ALDyk-QfF-
H8TsFAoXy2fXDsBdyJTKSsk0-W4UGH8Q=w452-h311-nc
Were there global conflicts and economic downturns? Of course. But I would rather have grown a career and begin a retirement account from 1985-2000 than from 2000-present.
I wish I was LOADED like all my fellow Gen Xers, damn.
That's exactly what I said. Right.
I wish I was LOADED like all my fellow Gen Xers, damn.
It wasn't for me. The economy in the early 90s was terrible, don't make it seem like we were entering the workforce in the 1950s.
Fair enough. I'm not claiming all Xers are wealthy and all Millennials are screwed. But this isn't you vs me. This is generational analysis. And the early 90s was not as bad as 08-12.
We're all less fortunate than our fathers were, this is certain. Gen Xers are cynical for sure, while millennials aren't always sure what they want. The people in these generations are pretty different, but I like the different approaches and skill sets we bring. We have to manage this country soon, and I think we'll do a hell of a lot better than the Boomers did. As flawed as they made us, they did teach us how to have a good time which I think is their legacy trait.
I graduated in 2009. My reference marker is the hiring of the Big 4 accounting firms. Locally, they combined to hire approx 25 new staff in their 4 local offices in the 2008 hiring season (from ~5 universities). In 2009, they hired 2, total, among the 4 firms.
Blame the boomers who aren't retiring - and the size of your generation.
Totally agree. When the boomers finally get out of the workforce, the next two generations are going to do a solid job, I believe.
Fine with both of these statements, although I don't know how one controls the size of their own generation.
That's the most important thing.
Meh. It goes both ways. The younger generation complains about the older generation that gave them everything.
I love that Millennials think they're unique because of their music and clothes.
You have to remember that they are younger. I am sure if you polled Gen Xers in 1993 or Baby Boomers in 70, they would have mentioned music and clothes. It is no surprise that both of the 2 older generations mention "work ethic". I don't think those two generations are famous for their work ethic. I am not saying they aren't hard workers, but that isn't the tops in my mind when I think about what makes them unique.I love that Millennials think they're unique because of their music and clothes.
Yeah flannel, quite the innovation.You have to remember that they are younger. I am sure if you polled Gen Xers in 1993 or Baby Boomers in 70, they would have mentioned music and clothes. It is no surprise that both of the 2 older generations mention "work ethic". I don't think those two generations are famous for their work ethic. I am not saying they aren't hard workers, but that isn't the tops in my mind when I think about what makes them unique.I love that Millennials think they're unique because of their music and clothes.
It doesn't matter if it is innovative, it is that it represented something that made them feel different from their parents, that set them apart. The music and clothes today aren't any more innovative than any other generation, but younger people feel that it belongs to them. It is pretty normal for young people to identify themselves through music and clothing. I guarantee you in 30 years, Milenials will be talking about about they are the hard working and smart generation and whatever younger generation is will be declaring themselves unique in their style and music.Yeah flannel, quite the innovation.You have to remember that they are younger. I am sure if you polled Gen Xers in 1993 or Baby Boomers in 70, they would have mentioned music and clothes. It is no surprise that both of the 2 older generations mention "work ethic". I don't think those two generations are famous for their work ethic. I am not saying they aren't hard workers, but that isn't the tops in my mind when I think about what makes them unique.I love that Millennials think they're unique because of their music and clothes.
No, really, we didn't think we were special. We saw too much of the "We're special" thing from our parents. It's not a coincidence that a Gen X guy wrote "You're not a beautiful and unique snowflake."It doesn't matter if it is innovative, it is that it represented something that made them feel different from their parents, that set them apart. The music and clothes today aren't any more innovative than any other generation, but younger people feel that it belongs to them. It is pretty normal for young people to identify themselves through music and clothing. I guarantee you in 30 years, Milenials will be talking about about they are the hard working and smart generation and whatever younger generation is will be declaring themselves unique in their style and music.Yeah flannel, quite the innovation.You have to remember that they are younger. I am sure if you polled Gen Xers in 1993 or Baby Boomers in 70, they would have mentioned music and clothes. It is no surprise that both of the 2 older generations mention "work ethic". I don't think those two generations are famous for their work ethic. I am not saying they aren't hard workers, but that isn't the tops in my mind when I think about what makes them unique.I love that Millennials think they're unique because of their music and clothes.
We are talking about adults who are largely at least a few years into their post-college careers. They should really be beyond music and clothes as their defining characteristics.It doesn't matter if it is innovative, it is that it represented something that made them feel different from their parents, that set them apart. The music and clothes today aren't any more innovative than any other generation, but younger people feel that it belongs to them. It is pretty normal for young people to identify themselves through music and clothing. I guarantee you in 30 years, Milenials will be talking about about they are the hard working and smart generation and whatever younger generation is will be declaring themselves unique in their style and music.Yeah flannel, quite the innovation.You have to remember that they are younger. I am sure if you polled Gen Xers in 1993 or Baby Boomers in 70, they would have mentioned music and clothes. It is no surprise that both of the 2 older generations mention "work ethic". I don't think those two generations are famous for their work ethic. I am not saying they aren't hard workers, but that isn't the tops in my mind when I think about what makes them unique.I love that Millennials think they're unique because of their music and clothes.
Millenials were born like 82-04....so it is a range of 32 - 10.We are talking about adults who are largely at least a few years into their post-college careers. They should really be beyond music and clothes as their defining characteristics.It doesn't matter if it is innovative, it is that it represented something that made them feel different from their parents, that set them apart. The music and clothes today aren't any more innovative than any other generation, but younger people feel that it belongs to them. It is pretty normal for young people to identify themselves through music and clothing. I guarantee you in 30 years, Milenials will be talking about about they are the hard working and smart generation and whatever younger generation is will be declaring themselves unique in their style and music.Yeah flannel, quite the innovation.You have to remember that they are younger. I am sure if you polled Gen Xers in 1993 or Baby Boomers in 70, they would have mentioned music and clothes. It is no surprise that both of the 2 older generations mention "work ethic". I don't think those two generations are famous for their work ethic. I am not saying they aren't hard workers, but that isn't the tops in my mind when I think about what makes them unique.I love that Millennials think they're unique because of their music and clothes.
I didn't say you felt special, I said exactly what you posted. You wanted to stand out as much as possible from your parents. At the same time, let us not forget that a large part of the Gen Xers were also wearing tight leather pants, male eye shadow, long feathered hair and rocking out to Poison. The 90s Gen Xers were almost a revolt against the younger Gen Xers. There really aren't generational categories as much as there is a scale.No, really, we didn't think we were special. We saw too much of the "We're special" thing from our parents. It's not a coincidence that a Gen X guy wrote "You're not a beautiful and unique snowflake."It doesn't matter if it is innovative, it is that it represented something that made them feel different from their parents, that set them apart. The music and clothes today aren't any more innovative than any other generation, but younger people feel that it belongs to them. It is pretty normal for young people to identify themselves through music and clothing. I guarantee you in 30 years, Milenials will be talking about about they are the hard working and smart generation and whatever younger generation is will be declaring themselves unique in their style and music.Yeah flannel, quite the innovation.You have to remember that they are younger. I am sure if you polled Gen Xers in 1993 or Baby Boomers in 70, they would have mentioned music and clothes. It is no surprise that both of the 2 older generations mention "work ethic". I don't think those two generations are famous for their work ethic. I am not saying they aren't hard workers, but that isn't the tops in my mind when I think about what makes them unique.I love that Millennials think they're unique because of their music and clothes.
Pew defines the range as 18-33.Millenials were born like 82-04....so it is a range of 32 - 10.We are talking about adults who are largely at least a few years into their post-college careers. They should really be beyond music and clothes as their defining characteristics.It doesn't matter if it is innovative, it is that it represented something that made them feel different from their parents, that set them apart. The music and clothes today aren't any more innovative than any other generation, but younger people feel that it belongs to them. It is pretty normal for young people to identify themselves through music and clothing. I guarantee you in 30 years, Milenials will be talking about about they are the hard working and smart generation and whatever younger generation is will be declaring themselves unique in their style and music.Yeah flannel, quite the innovation.You have to remember that they are younger. I am sure if you polled Gen Xers in 1993 or Baby Boomers in 70, they would have mentioned music and clothes. It is no surprise that both of the 2 older generations mention "work ethic". I don't think those two generations are famous for their work ethic. I am not saying they aren't hard workers, but that isn't the tops in my mind when I think about what makes them unique.I love that Millennials think they're unique because of their music and clothes.
Again, it's all terribly subjective. The leading researchers on the generational theory defined it as 82-04. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss_and_HowePew defines the range as 18-33.I don't believe I have ever heard of pre-teens being polled as Millenials.Millenials were born like 82-04....so it is a range of 32 - 10.We are talking about adults who are largely at least a few years into their post-college careers. They should really be beyond music and clothes as their defining characteristics.It doesn't matter if it is innovative, it is that it represented something that made them feel different from their parents, that set them apart. The music and clothes today aren't any more innovative than any other generation, but younger people feel that it belongs to them. It is pretty normal for young people to identify themselves through music and clothing. I guarantee you in 30 years, Milenials will be talking about about they are the hard working and smart generation and whatever younger generation is will be declaring themselves unique in their style and music.Yeah flannel, quite the innovation.You have to remember that they are younger. I am sure if you polled Gen Xers in 1993 or Baby Boomers in 70, they would have mentioned music and clothes. It is no surprise that both of the 2 older generations mention "work ethic". I don't think those two generations are famous for their work ethic. I am not saying they aren't hard workers, but that isn't the tops in my mind when I think about what makes them unique.I love that Millennials think they're unique because of their music and clothes.
Pew polls "adult millenials" I believePew defines the range as 18-33.Millenials were born like 82-04....so it is a range of 32 - 10.We are talking about adults who are largely at least a few years into their post-college careers. They should really be beyond music and clothes as their defining characteristics.It doesn't matter if it is innovative, it is that it represented something that made them feel different from their parents, that set them apart. The music and clothes today aren't any more innovative than any other generation, but younger people feel that it belongs to them. It is pretty normal for young people to identify themselves through music and clothing. I guarantee you in 30 years, Milenials will be talking about about they are the hard working and smart generation and whatever younger generation is will be declaring themselves unique in their style and music.Yeah flannel, quite the innovation.You have to remember that they are younger. I am sure if you polled Gen Xers in 1993 or Baby Boomers in 70, they would have mentioned music and clothes. It is no surprise that both of the 2 older generations mention "work ethic". I don't think those two generations are famous for their work ethic. I am not saying they aren't hard workers, but that isn't the tops in my mind when I think about what makes them unique.I love that Millennials think they're unique because of their music and clothes.
I don't believe I have ever heard of pre-teens being polled as Millenials.
Job opportunity for Homer.Pew polls "adult millenials" I believePew defines the range as 18-33.Millenials were born like 82-04....so it is a range of 32 - 10.We are talking about adults who are largely at least a few years into their post-college careers. They should really be beyond music and clothes as their defining characteristics.It doesn't matter if it is innovative, it is that it represented something that made them feel different from their parents, that set them apart. The music and clothes today aren't any more innovative than any other generation, but younger people feel that it belongs to them. It is pretty normal for young people to identify themselves through music and clothing. I guarantee you in 30 years, Milenials will be talking about about they are the hard working and smart generation and whatever younger generation is will be declaring themselves unique in their style and music.Yeah flannel, quite the innovation.You have to remember that they are younger. I am sure if you polled Gen Xers in 1993 or Baby Boomers in 70, they would have mentioned music and clothes. It is no surprise that both of the 2 older generations mention "work ethic". I don't think those two generations are famous for their work ethic. I am not saying they aren't hard workers, but that isn't the tops in my mind when I think about what makes them unique.I love that Millennials think they're unique because of their music and clothes.
I don't believe I have ever heard of pre-teens being polled as Millenials.
