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If you saw the ranking, you would not be asking this question. I guess this question was geared towards FBG subscribers.Muahahaha said:
There is no such forum as far as I know. It was more of a rhetorical question anyway. Poopdawg's response was kind of what I was expecting from people along with others elaborating if they disagree that it is a surprising/shocking ranking for week 15.
No question the ranking assumes the Williams Wall plays, but even then it is surprising. Are you leaning towards Carolina or waiting for the news to come down on the suspensions before deciding?
I am a subscriber. I did see it. Seems about right. Fantasyguru.com has the exact same ranking. It's one spot lower than Sportsline's rankings. Three major sites have it basically in the exact same spot.Please enlighten us with why you are shocked, because there seems to be a pretty clear consensus on this.
No doubt that any defense against DEN is a bad play most weeks, but the same could be said for ARZ.Just a a general statement, there don't seem to be a lot of very good defensive plays this week. There are a few, but not many like most weeks.
Nice .. you have been lurking for 5 years and your patience has finally paid off!!!
Ah, OK, I think I get it now. Based on this comment, sounds like you are considering yards and points in your analysis. However, FBG's rankings are not based on points or yards allowed, but simple turnover, DTD, sacks scoring. Their ranking would no doubt be worse if you took yards and points into account.But given that AZ will basically only pass against Minny's strong run defense, Minny should probably a few sacks and maybe an interception or two. Hence, their FBG ranking.
Looks like 3 of us in this thread have Minnesota and Carolina to choose from. Personally, I'm staying far, far away from Minnesota. Carolina at home [unbeaten] > Minnesota in the desert.
Give me a break. All that has been revealed in this thread is that the ranking is higher than many of us expected.
You lost the sarcasm in Paper Lion's post. You treat Minny D's ranking like it's a top-secret government project.Give me a break. All that has been revealed in this thread is that the ranking is higher than many of us expected.
He didn't say he was "shocked" - its just a simple question that is phrased in the preferred way on this board when referring to subscrber info. Given the ranking, it is rather obvious what the OP is asking. I saw the ranking and was also surprised and considered starting a similar thread. The Vikings defense is known to be soft against the pass, so there are very few worse matchups one could imagine than they have at Arizona this week. Therefore, the question is whether there is something we are missing - for example with an injury or a vulnerability in the return game?My second defense is ranked 6-7 spots lower, and I'm considering bucking the FBG ranking this week as I really don't understand this one either.
my bad then ... i just want to be respectful of the paid material ... i can certainly see it as sarcasm, but it could be seen the other way too since a message board is tonelessYou lost the sarcasm in Paper Lion's post. You treat Minny D's ranking like it's a top-secret government project.Give me a break. All that has been revealed in this thread is that the ranking is higher than many of us expected.
Exactly
It's more like a "don't post specific rankings that make paying for the material worthless" than a "omg I can deduce a kicker's ranking due to your wording!"my bad then ... i just want to be respectful of the paid material ... i can certainly see it as sarcasm, but it could be seen the other way too since a message board is tonelessYou lost the sarcasm in Paper Lion's post. You treat Minny D's ranking like it's a top-secret government project.Give me a break. All that has been revealed in this thread is that the ranking is higher than many of us expected.
I thought FBG did take into account PA/YDS when you looked at your league-specific rankings...oops! In that case, I too will be going with Carolina. I think the safest choice for me is to not start a defense at all, but our commish frowns on it.
The FBG ranking is not based on yards or points allowed. They could project Warner to throw for 10 TDs, Boldin and Fitz to combine for 500 yards and still have the Minny D ranked where they are if Warner throws a couple of picks and gets sacked a couple of times.FBG gives you projections for yards and points allowed. You need to plug this in to your scoring system to re-rank the DST. They obviously would be lower.
thanks Muahahaha - I've subscribed for many years and did not know this until today.Is this also how defenses are ranked on the DD and top 200?looks like the Ravens for me this weekend
OK...after reading your last post above, I decided to dig and see if I could find anywhere where their standard scoring is listed for the generic rankings. I couldn't find it, but I went to the "MyFBG" section and selected:*Default (Dodds/Norton)*Team Defense*Standard FBG scoring*Week 15I guess I was expecting the exact same ranking since I selected "Standard FBG scoring." I actually got one numerous spots lower. This begs the question .... "Are there more than one "Standard FBG Scoring" systems out there? I would expect that "Standard FBG scoring" is the scoring system used for the generic non-customized rankings they email each week. Any ideas?
Can you point me to a link that confirms this?Does anyone know of a link listing the rules for Standard FBG Scoring used in their weekly cheatsheets? I am surprised it isn't easily noted on the website or at the bottom of each week's email. I have been looking around for 5-10 minutes and cannot find anything explicitly listing the Standard FBG Scoring rules.
Bad assumption to make. DST scoring systems vary wildly, which is probably why they set it up the way they do. Most scoring systems I've been apart of don't count for yards against and minimal influence on points scored.
I can't find a link confirming this. However, I created a new custom league with the following scoring: 6 pts for all defensive/special teams TDs
This, of course, includes yards and points allowed. In my custom cheatsheet, there is a default for "Standard FBG Scoring". This actually ranks Minnesota number nine and ties out completely to the above description.So, I think there are a couple of "Standard FBG Scoring" systems. Dodds uses the slim-downed scoring for his standard Cheatsheet; the custom cheatsheets and projections use "Standard FBG Scoring" for their rankings.
Clearly!They really should have at least a link and definitely ONLY ONE "FBG Standard Scoring." I can't believe they don't list it on their website anywhere. Seems odd since they have been in business for so long. I would have thought it would come up before now. I know if it less of an issue since you can enter your customized scoring system under MyFBG, but it would be nice to know what exactly we are looking at when it comes to the generic weekly releases (non-customized) for the Top 250 and Cheatsheet.
Agreed. I honestly didn't even look at that standard Cheatsheet. My reply was based on the #9 ranking for "Standard FBG Scoring" using the projections page. Sportsline has them at 10 and Guru has them at 9. I will admit that #2 looks super high in any yardage/points league.
To the OP: 
