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Minnesota Vikings @ Philadelphia Eagles (1 Viewer)

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Well, I am quite perplexed by all the analysts this week. The Vikings win one game and now Sean Salisbury and Boomer are picking them to upset the Eagles! Sean Salisbury hasn't picked the Vikings to win a game since they cut him. Anyway, I see this game as being a down-to-the-wire type game. I am a Vikings fan, but am a realistic Vikings fan. The only way they have a chance is if they come out playing inspired football on defense like they did this past Sunday. I haven't seen the Vikes hustle to the ball like that since Tony Dungy left town. This was by far the best effort their defense has had all season. I agree with all those who say the Eagles need Westbrook to step up and have a big day. It will be harder without Owens distracting all the coverage, but the Vikings linebackers are terrible in coverage, so he will be the key. As for the Philly defense, it is a good one, but they do struggle in the run. I think the Vikings need to establish their ground game early if they want to win, but I fear the Tice will abandon it like always. The X-factor this game is how healthy Moss is. The way he limped off the field Sunday doesn't inspire hope in this Vikings fan.However, I do think it will be a close game. All these Eagles fans are sure of the route their team will lay down on the Vikes, well so were the Packers.

 
The Packers, Brett Favre especially, handed the Vikings the game last week by giving them four turnovers, and yet the Packers were still only down by 7 points in the 4th quarter. Does that really sound like a Super Bowl bound team? If the Eagles get half that many turnovers the game won't even be close. Minn doesn't have the killer instinct necessary to come to Philadelphia and win. It starts with the coach and trickles down through the players and anyone that thinks Tice can out coach Reid is just crazy. This game shouldn't even be close. The only way it will be close is if the Eagle come out flat like they did a few times at the end of the season against the Cowboys and Redskins.

 
With TO this would be no contest for Philly. Today, I picked the Vikes even though I question if they have the defense to win.It comes down to CPep and Moss > McNabb and PINKSTON!!!!Only chance for Philly would be in a massive D game in the snow.

 
i would love to see my Vikes pull this off, doubt it can happen. I do believe Vegas is being a little to kind to Philly. Although the Vikes probably can't win, i sure will tease the hell out of getting 9.5 . Tie that with Indy and i am feeling pretty sweet.

 
Bottom Line: If the Vikes go up quick, like last week, they win. If they don't it could be ugly. Either way it will be fun to watch.

 
I can't believe that 45% of the people think Minnesota is going to win this game.I'm as big of a Philly-hater as they come, but I can't see it. :no:

 
I can't believe that 45% of the people think Minnesota is going to win this game.I'm as big of a Philly-hater as they come, but I can't see it. :no:
:goodposting:When you see Capella making a call in favor of the Eagles you KNOW people are WAY overreacting to the Vikings win last week.
 
remember, the the Eagles have not played particualry well in the playoffs the last few years....
one less playoff win than the Patriots over the last four years.
please tell me you're kidding.
just reportin' the facts :D
And FOUR more loses.That stat is equally important when comparing the two teams. Just another classic case of how you can make any team look good or bad depending on which stats you want to show.

I know it was just a fun fact post and I'm not trying to pick on you personally for it. There are just too many people who post here that do this type of reaserch and forget to look at the other sides. It's a flawed analysis I see way to often, especially during the preseason. But I'm just as flawed too at times.

 
Who do you think will win? Vikings [ 60 ] [44.78%] Eagles [ 73 ] [54.48%] Total Votes: 133
If this is really how people feel, stright-up none the less, I really hope people start betting the Dikes like their voting here. Maybe line will drop a point or two and some easy money can be made on Philly. -8.5 for Philly is looking like easy money right now.
 
410-317 are the yardage totals (Vikings-Eagles) from the first game these two teams played (with TO), and I know that doesn't represent the score, but the Vikings can play with the Eagles. They may not win, but I don't think they get scorched either.

 
I can't believe that 45% of the people think Minnesota is going to win this game.I'm as big of a Philly-hater as they come, but I can't see it. :no:
And how many non-Vikings fans saw them winning against the Packers? Heck, it was probably 50-50 for Vikings fans. The poll on this board was 70-30 Packer.
 
410-317 are the yardage totals (Vikings-Eagles) from the first game these two teams played (with TO), and I know that doesn't represent the score, but the Vikings can play with the Eagles. They may not win, but I don't think they get scorched either.
And THIS is what most are forgetting.. The Vikes Had chances, with T.O. lead Eagles, to win that game.Only 2 Plays made that game a Eagle victory, instead of a Viking Victory.Culpepper gets stripped of the Ball at teh 1 inch line.And T.O.'s Supposive TD.That's a 14 point swing there.That being said, I Have NO IDEA what to feel about this game.Same as last week, no expectations at all so just going to enjoy the game.I do think it will be close and if the Vikes put up 30 Points they win.
 
410-317 are the yardage totals (Vikings-Eagles) from the first game these two teams played (with TO), and I know that doesn't represent the score, but the Vikings can play with the Eagles. They may not win, but I don't think they get scorched either.
And THIS is what most are forgetting.. The Vikes Had chances, with T.O. lead Eagles, to win that game.

Only 2 Plays made that game a Eagle victory, instead of a Viking Victory.

Culpepper gets stripped of the Ball at teh 1 inch line.

And T.O.'s Supposive TD.

That's a 14 point swing there.

That being said, I Have NO IDEA what to feel about this game.

Same as last week, no expectations at all so just going to enjoy the game.

I do think it will be close and if the Vikes put up 30 Points they win.
If we're playing this game, let's also consider the 180 turn the Eagles rush defense has taken since their first meeting.Before Trotter was the starter...4.75 Yards per Rush (31st in the NFL)

After Trotter was the starter...3.63 Yards per Rush (10th in the NFL)

 
Wow, look at these inferiority complex ridden Eagle fans get their undies in a bundle crying about Viking fans "coming out of the woodwork" when most who picked the Vikes probably couldn't give a rat's ### about the Vikes. Most are probably biased toward neither team and merely appreciate that the Eagles are not at full strength and perhaps rusty, and the Vikes are coming off a decisive win on the road that could give the confidence to play with a tough Eagle squad. But no, that couldn't be it. Gotta be Viking homers, and these guys are as good as any at spotting homers. Not them though, they are realists. I mean, I'm sure if I look back at the archives I'll find endless threads with unbiased Eagle fans such as Jason acknowledging that the Eagles were no match for the Rams, predicting that the Eagles would go belly-up to Tampa Bay, and I'm confident they all put their cash on the Eagles playing like corpses vs. Carolina last season. I say the NFL just calls off this game and puts the Eagles in the NFC Championship without requiring them to step on the same field as the Vikings. Heck, maybe even cancel the NFC Championship game too and put them in the Super Bowl without further ado. Those games are beneath this Eagle squad.On a serious note, I picked the Eagles and I think they will win a close one, something like 33-27, after the Eagle D stops the Vikes O on a critical drive. The key in my mind is Kearse. The Vikings OL has been hot/cold this year and they need a better gameplan for him than they had in week 2 when he walked all over them, or else mistakes will be happening while the Vikes are on offense. In all honestly, however, I can't wait to see this bunch of Eagle whiners cry, as only an Eagle fan can cry, next Monday if I'm wrong.

 
Wow, look at these inferiority complex ridden Eagle fans get their undies in a bundle crying about Viking fans "coming out of the woodwork" when most who picked the Vikes probably couldn't give a rat's ### about the Vikes. Most are probably biased toward neither team and merely appreciate that the Eagles are not at full strength and perhaps rusty, and the Vikes are coming off a decisive win on the road that could give the confidence to play with a tough Eagle squad. But no, that couldn't be it. Gotta be Viking homers, and these guys are as good as any at spotting homers. Not them though, they are realists. I mean, I'm sure if I look back at the archives I'll find endless threads with unbiased Eagle fans such as Jason acknowledging that the Eagles were no match for the Rams, predicting that the Eagles would go belly-up to Tampa Bay, and I'm confident they all put their cash on the Eagles playing like corpses vs. Carolina last season. I say the NFL just calls off this game and puts the Eagles in the NFC Championship without requiring them to step on the same field as the Vikings. Heck, maybe even cancel the NFC Championship game too and put them in the Super Bowl without further ado. Those games are beneath this Eagle squad.On a serious note, I picked the Eagles and I think they will win a close one, something like 33-27, after the Eagle D stops the Vikes O on a critical drive. The key in my mind is Kearse. The Vikings OL has been hot/cold this year and they need a better gameplan for him than they had in week 2 when he walked all over them, or else mistakes will be happening while the Vikes are on offense. In all honestly, however, I can't wait to see this bunch of Eagle whiners cry, as only an Eagle fan can cry, next Monday if I'm wrong.
You're entitled to your opinion, but for the record:1) I wasn't surprised by the Eagles loss to the Rams, we weren't expected by anyone to be in that game, so we more than exceeded my expectations. IIRC the Eagles were 12.5 point underdogs entering that game.2) I was bitterly disappointed by the loss to Tampa, although the spread was much tighter. There is a HUGE difference between Tampa and Minnesota though, defense. The Eagles were 4th in the league that year, but Tampa was #1 and it wasn't close. We've seen time and time again that teams with good defenses are the ones who win championships.3) Carolina, even more disappointed but again nothing close to the upset this would be. Carolina was a 4.5 point underdog, and again had a formidable defense (10th in points allowed, 8th in yards allowed).There's a HUGE difference between a team with a top 10 defense, that's no more than a 4 or 5 point underdog pulling off an upset versus what the Vikes (26th in point allowed :X and 28th in yards allowed :X ) bring defensively, and that's why they're a 9.5 point 'dog.
 
The Eagles were 4th in the league that year, but Tampa was #1 and it wasn't close. We've seen time and time again that teams with good defenses are the ones who win championships.
God #### right. :bow:
 
There's a HUGE difference between a team with a top 10 defense, that's no more than a 4 or 5 point underdog pulling off an upset versus what the Vikes (26th in point allowed :X and 28th in yards allowed :X ) bring defensively, and that's why they're a 9.5 point 'dog.
I agree to an extent, but the defense did step up and held a Packer team (that is better than Philly offensively) to 17 points.
 
There's a HUGE difference between a team with a top 10 defense, that's no more than a 4 or 5 point underdog pulling off an upset versus what the Vikes (26th in point allowed :X and 28th in yards allowed :X ) bring defensively, and that's why they're a 9.5 point 'dog.
I agree to an extent, but the defense did step up and held a Packer team (that is better than Philly offensively) to 17 points.
First of all...if you're going to handicap, taking a team's 16+ game season in its entirety is a far better measure of things than their most recent game. Second, they allowed 17 points to a team that turned threw 4 interceptions.
 
There's a HUGE difference between a team with a top 10 defense, that's no more than a 4 or 5 point underdog pulling off an upset versus what the Vikes (26th in point allowed :X and 28th in yards allowed :X ) bring defensively, and that's why they're a 9.5 point 'dog.
I mean seriously Jason, I usually get a kick out of your blatant homer opinion, but go tell the Packers about how difficult it is for a miserable Viking defense to overcome a 6 point spread like the Vikes did last week when they turned that spread into a 20 point error. That's the least compelling rationale I've read from you yet. I know it's hard for you to accept, but this game rest solely on what Viking team shows up, and whether it gives itself a chance to be in this game. I seriously doubt Las Vegas is an indicator of that.
 
There's a HUGE difference between a team with a top 10 defense, that's no more than a 4 or 5 point underdog pulling off an upset versus what the Vikes (26th in point allowed :X and 28th in yards allowed :X ) bring defensively, and that's why they're a 9.5 point 'dog.
I mean seriously Jason, I usually get a kick out of your blatant homer opinion, but go tell the Packers about how difficult it is for a miserable Viking defense to overcome a 6 point spread like the Vikes did last week when they turned that spread into a 20 point error. That's the least compelling rationale I've read from you yet. I know it's hard for you to accept, but this game rest solely on what Viking team shows up, and whether it gives itself a chance to be in this game. I seriously doubt Las Vegas is an indicator of that.
Again BigJim we're going to have to respectfully disagree. The difference between your argument vis-a-vis the Packers and this week is again related to defense. For as badly as Minny's defense is, the Packers aren't any better, ranking 23rd and 25th in points and yards. Last time I checked the Eagles defense was a bit better than that. ;)

 
here's what I simply cannot get over.The Vikings were 8-7, going to a beaten Washington team, and all they had to do was beat one of the worst teams in the NFL to make the playoffs. At the time, they were not in.And they go lay an egg in a must-win game with their WHOLE SEASON ON THE LINE.Yes, fine, they went to Green Bay and beat their rivals..a team with a horrible defense and a quarterback playing like a ######ed kid on the sandlot...and now all of a sudden I'm supposed to believe that they are going to go beat a 13-3 team on the road in the playoffs?:crazy:People, they went 8-8 on the season..in the horrible NFC..when they were literally a missed extra-point from heading to OT against a wretched Detroit team a month ago..when their defense is as bad as it is..when they have a guy who is as close to buffoonery as it gets on their sideline. And again..people actually expect them to win this game?:crazy:Maybe I'll be wrong, and as a known Philly-hater I hope I am, but I would be absolutely amazed if this dog of a team pulled this off.Amazing. This is how Vegas has all those shiny casinos.

 
here's what I simply cannot get over.The Vikings were 8-7, going to a beaten Washington team, and all they had to do was beat one of the worst teams in the NFL to make the playoffs. At the time, they were not in.And they go lay an egg in a must-win game with their WHOLE SEASON ON THE LINE.Yes, fine, they went to Green Bay and beat their rivals..a team with a horrible defense and a quarterback playing like a ######ed kid on the sandlot...and now all of a sudden I'm supposed to believe that they are going to go beat a 13-3 team on the road in the playoffs?:crazy:People, they went 8-8 on the season..in the horrible NFC..when they were literally a missed extra-point from heading to OT against a wretched Detroit team a month ago..when their defense is as bad as it is..when they have a guy who is as close to buffoonery as it gets on their sideline. And again..people actually expect them to win this game?:crazy:Maybe I'll be wrong, and as a known Philly-hater I hope I am, but I would be absolutely amazed if this dog of a team pulled this off.Amazing. This is how Vegas has all those shiny casinos.
The Moon must be full because you and I are seeing eye to eye quite a bit today Capella.Oh, and for the record to BigJim and anyone else out there, when the Eagles play the Falcons in two weekends, I won't be singing this kind of bravado as I think that will be a much more contentious game with an uncertain outcome.But I can't believe that otherwise savvy and super-involved football fans can look at the Vikings and predict a win in Philly. It's one thing to pick them to cover ATS, but an outright win? BAFFLING.
 
here's what I simply cannot get over.The Vikings were 8-7, going to a beaten Washington team, and all they had to do was beat one of the worst teams in the NFL to make the playoffs. At the time, they were not in.And they go lay an egg in a must-win game with their WHOLE SEASON ON THE LINE.Yes, fine, they went to Green Bay and beat their rivals..a team with a horrible defense and a quarterback playing like a ######ed kid on the sandlot...and now all of a sudden I'm supposed to believe that they are going to go beat a 13-3 team on the road in the playoffs?:crazy:People, they went 8-8 on the season..in the horrible NFC..when they were literally a missed extra-point from heading to OT against a wretched Detroit team a month ago..when their defense is as bad as it is..when they have a guy who is as close to buffoonery as it gets on their sideline. And again..people actually expect them to win this game?:crazy:Maybe I'll be wrong, and as a known Philly-hater I hope I am, but I would be absolutely amazed if this dog of a team pulled this off.Amazing. This is how Vegas has all those shiny casinos.
The Moon must be full because you and I are seeing eye to eye quite a bit today Capella.Oh, and for the record to BigJim and anyone else out there, when the Eagles play the Falcons in two weekends, I won't be singing this kind of bravado as I think that will be a much more contentious game with an uncertain outcome.But I can't believe that otherwise savvy and super-involved football fans can look at the Vikings and predict a win in Philly. It's one thing to pick them to cover ATS, but an outright win? BAFFLING.
hey, just because I don't like a team doesn't mean I lose touch with reality. Philly is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Minnesota, any which way you slice it. I've said for quite a while now I expect Atlanta to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. And I expect them to beat Philly to do so. They are the only two worthy teams this year, and I don't expect to see that changing this weekend.
 
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btw Wood, if the Eagles do somehow lose this game, you can expect to see that annual thread in the FFA roughly 30 seconds after it ends.just so we're clear. :thumbup:

 
btw Wood, if the Eagles do somehow lose this game, you can expect to see that annual thread in the FFA roughly 30 seconds after it ends.

just so we're clear. :thumbup:
If the Eagles lose this game, I will NEVER AGAIN use Bring It Home for Jerome in my sig, how's that?
 
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btw Wood, if the Eagles do somehow lose this game, you can expect to see that annual thread in the FFA roughly 30 seconds after it ends.

just so we're clear.  :thumbup:
If the Eagles lose this game, I will NEVER AGAIN use Bring It Home for Jerome in my sig, how's that?
:excited:
 
Antoine Winfield.
Brian DawkinsMichael LewisLito SheppardYour point?
Although the Viking LB's played a bit better vs. GB, the single largest difference was the return of Winfield. He had played sparingly after a high ankle ankle sprain, but the GB game is the first time I'd seen him really back.I'm realistic, I think the Eagles will likely pull this out. However, Winfield is a player that can (and did) bring the Vikings D from god awful to average. I think an average D that plays the run alright has a good chance to slow Philly down.If Philly has trouble getting a decent lead, the Vikings offense always has a chance for some big plays. I don't think a Minnesota win is nearly as far fetched as some are making it sound... although I do think it's not probable.
 
posted by MiketheVike

Here's how I see it:

The Eagle defense comes out fired up and constant blitzing gives the Vikings fits. The Philly offense sputters for most of the game but gets the job done with a few big plays from the legs of Donovan and Westbrook. Final of 23-10 with Akers knocking three FG's home.
Of all the posts in this thread I think this one covers it best. The Eagles are the better team and usually that means they will win. One thing to add is that the Eagles have been given the boot 3 straight years and it has to do something to their mindset going into this game without the guy who helped them get to this point regardless of how many times they did it without him. The fact that they have had an extra week to get over his loss will probably be enough and get them through. Also, the Eagles know that even if they get to the Superbowl they will likely play the Colts and they will lose yet again......it has to be on their minds.
 
The Vikings OL has been hot/cold this year and they need a better gameplan for him than they had in week 2 when he walked all over them, or else mistakes will be happening while the Vikes are on offense.
I think having a starting OL play against Kearse will help. Remember, Mike Rosenthal went down with his season-ending injury during that game, and some scrub(Adam Haayer) backup came in and got pwned. No surprise there.GOLDBERG 4 LIFE
 
Don't forget that 8-8 can be a bit misleading. This team lost 5 of those games by 4 pts or less. A break here or there and they could easily be a 10 or 11 win team.

 
posted by MiketheVike

Here's how I see it:

The Eagle defense comes out fired up and constant blitzing gives the Vikings fits. The Philly offense sputters for most of the game but gets the job done with a few big plays from the legs of Donovan and Westbrook. Final of 23-10 with Akers knocking three FG's home.
Of all the posts in this thread I think this one covers it best. The Eagles are the better team and usually that means they will win. One thing to add is that the Eagles have been given the boot 3 straight years and it has to do something to their mindset going into this game without the guy who helped them get to this point regardless of how many times they did it without him. The fact that they have had an extra week to get over his loss will probably be enough and get them through. Also, the Eagles know that even if they get to the Superbowl they will likely play the Colts and they will lose yet again......it has to be on their minds.
All the Eagles care about is getting to the SuperBowl. We all know once we get there it doesnt matter who we play.
 
The Vikings OL has been hot/cold this year and they need a better gameplan for him than they had in week 2 when he walked all over them, or else mistakes will be happening while the Vikes are on offense.
I think having a starting OL play against Kearse will help. Remember, Mike Rosenthal went down with his season-ending injury during that game, and some scrub(Adam Haayer) backup came in and got pwned. No surprise there.GOLDBERG 4 LIFE
Remember they also had serious problems with D. Freeney in week 9 and KGB in week 10, coming from both end positions. Without Moe Williams to help block, the Vikes simply must find a way to stop a speed rusher. They did a decent job vs. KGB last week but this remains the key to the game IMHO. If Daunte gets 5-6 seconds, the Vikes opportunity to win increases tenfold. If he gets 3-4 seconds, forget it; we'll see 6 sacks and 3 INTs.
 
• Numbers cruncher: The Eagles are a blitzing team, and that plays to Culpepper's strength. Against the blitz this season, according to Stats Inc., Culpepper has completed 101 of 159 passes for 1,217 yards and 15 touchdown and only one interception. He has been sacked 18 times against the blitz, but his quarterback rating was 115.7, topped only by Peyton Manning.Hmmmm.

 
• Numbers cruncher: The Eagles are a blitzing team, and that plays to Culpepper's strength. Against the blitz this season, according to Stats Inc., Culpepper has completed 101 of 159 passes for 1,217 yards and 15 touchdown and only one interception. He has been sacked 18 times against the blitz, but his quarterback rating was 115.7, topped only by Peyton Manning.Hmmmm.
What was his QB rating when he played the Eagles this season? You know, the same team your talking about?
 
In week 2, the Eagles D sacked Culpepper 4 times, they forced 3 fumbles and held Onterrio Smith to 28 yards rushing... and that was without Jeremiah Trotter in at starting LB. The Eagles offense won't have to be on fire because they will likely start several drives with great field position. If the WRs struggle and the Vikes can somehow take out the Eagle TEs + contain Westbrook... then McNabb will take over and do it with his feet. Let's not forget too that the Birds have the best placekicker in the league.The Vikings lost to BOTH the Giants and the Redskins. The Eagles beat each of those teams twice... by an average of 2 touchdowns. Eagles fans are supposed to panic now because Minnesota put up 30 points on the Packers at Lambeau. The Pack defense gave up 3 touchdowns a game all season long AND lost 5 games at home. If you subtract the game where the Eagles started their JV... they were undefeated at home this year.So am I missing something here?

 
Good News and Bad News on the Eagles Injury Front

-Bad News : Simoneau doubtful

-Good News : LJ Smith practiced and everyone else (beside TO of course) ready to go

Injuries: LB Simoneau Doubtful

January 12, 2005

By BOB KENT

With the exception of wide receiver Terrell Owens and weakside linebacker Mark Simoneau, head coach Andy Reid expects to have a full complement of his troops for Sunday's Divisional Playoff with the Vikings.

Owens is out for the game, while Simoneau is listed as doubtful. Everyone else practiced Wednesday.

Simoneau suffered an ankle strain in the season finale and Reid said "it will be a struggle for him to make it.

"It's one of those injuries that's a little bit different on everybody. Some guys it takes 6 six weeks to heal from it; other guys it takes a shorter time. Knowing the way Mark heals up, we're expecting him to heal up faster.

"Some guys are back in a week, some guys it takes a little bit longer."

With Simoneau sidelined, Reid noted that he'll "mix it up with both guys" (likely either Keith Adams or Nate Wayne).

Free safety Brian Dawkins, who has had the flu, is said to be feeling better and was expected to do some work in Wednesday's workout.

Tight end L.J. Smith, who missed the team's abbreviated workouts on Friday and Monday, was back on the field Wednesday. Smith exited the season finale with a lower back problem.

"He did well," Reid said of Smith following the morning walk-through. "He and Donovan actually came in Tuesday and threw. He feels comfortable."

Defensive linemen Derrick Burgess and Hollis Thomas are also on target for a return this weekend.

"They made it through the two days that we had before very well," Reid said. "We banged around a little bit on Monday and we'll get after it a little bit today. I ecpect they're on the mend and ready to go."

As for Owens' progress, Reid said: "He's making progress. We'll see. Rick's (head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder) doing a geat job with T.O. and T.O. has spent a lot of time in that training room trying to get right. We'll see how it goes."
 
Good News and Bad News on the Eagles Injury Front

-Bad News : Simoneau doubtful

-Good News : LJ Smith practiced and everyone else (beside TO of course) ready to go

Injuries: LB Simoneau Doubtful 

January 12, 2005

By BOB KENT

With the exception of wide receiver Terrell Owens and weakside linebacker Mark Simoneau, head coach Andy Reid expects to have a full complement of his troops for Sunday's Divisional Playoff with the Vikings.

Owens is out for the game, while Simoneau is listed as doubtful. Everyone else practiced Wednesday.

Simoneau suffered an ankle strain in the season finale and Reid said "it will be a struggle for him to make it.

"It's one of those injuries that's a little bit different on everybody. Some guys it takes 6 six weeks to heal from it; other guys it takes a shorter time. Knowing the way Mark heals up, we're expecting him to heal up faster.

"Some guys are back in a week, some guys it takes a little bit longer."

With Simoneau sidelined, Reid noted that he'll "mix it up with both guys" (likely either Keith Adams or Nate Wayne).

Free safety Brian Dawkins, who has had the flu, is said to be feeling better and was expected to do some work in Wednesday's workout.

Tight end L.J. Smith, who missed the team's abbreviated workouts on Friday and Monday, was back on the field Wednesday. Smith exited the season finale with a lower back problem.

"He did well," Reid said of Smith following the morning walk-through. "He and Donovan actually came in Tuesday and threw. He feels comfortable."

Defensive linemen Derrick Burgess and Hollis Thomas are also on target for a return this weekend.

"They made it through the two days that we had before very well," Reid said. "We banged around a little bit on Monday and we'll get after it a little bit today. I ecpect they're on the mend and ready to go."

As for Owens' progress, Reid said: "He's making progress. We'll see. Rick's (head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder) doing a geat job with T.O. and T.O. has spent a lot of time in that training room trying to get right. We'll see how it goes."
I'll gladly trade Simoneau for Hollis Thomas, Derrick Burgess and L.J. Smith :pickle:
 
I noticed that this weeks game is on Fox as well. Does this mean more of Buck ranting on Moss?

 
What was his QB rating when he played the Eagles this season? You know, the same team your talking about?
95.3Not stellar, not horrible. Which likely means it'll come down to the Vikes D being able to keep them in the game. Odds are they will implode as usual. But if they play like last week, I think we'll have a fun game to watch.I'm impressed with the Philly contingent though, I have no idea how you can have such confidence in any football game, much less in a team that perenially lets you down.
 
In week 2, the Eagles D sacked Culpepper 4 times, they forced 3 fumbles and held Onterrio Smith to 28 yards rushing... and that was without Jeremiah Trotter in at starting LB. The Eagles offense won't have to be on fire because they will likely start several drives with great field position. If the WRs struggle and the Vikes can somehow take out the Eagle TEs + contain Westbrook... then McNabb will take over and do it with his feet. Let's not forget too that the Birds have the best placekicker in the league.The Vikings lost to BOTH the Giants and the Redskins. The Eagles beat each of those teams twice... by an average of 2 touchdowns. Eagles fans are supposed to panic now because Minnesota put up 30 points on the Packers at Lambeau. The Pack defense gave up 3 touchdowns a game all season long AND lost 5 games at home. If you subtract the game where the Eagles started their JV... they were undefeated at home this year.So am I missing something here?
The fact that MN lost to NYG and WAS while Philly swept both those teams is irrelevant. MN was swept by GB, and dominated them this past week. I'm definitely not saying that means MN should be the favorite here, but I don't think those comparisons every matter that much.I'd still say the Eagles are strong favorites, but MN has some things going for them. Right now the Vikes are playing good ball, most importantly on the D side. They need the D to play well, and most importantly be able to put consistent pressue on McNabb. Secondly, they need to score first, or at the very least, keep the game within one score until half time. If they fall behind any more than that at any point, turn out the lights.
 
Here's Min's first report on injuries.

Tice says Moe will play even though listed as doubtful. Moss missed practice but is probable.

It looks like pre-game injuries will not be much of a factor, and that I am thankful for that. No excuses.

(Still can't decide if I should sell this ticket or not - I am currently unemployed :cry: - but certain this will be an entertaining game)

 
Westbrook cannot carry this team alone.
um, you might be right but that's why it's a good thing he doesn't have too... have you ever heard of a guy named McNabb... what about Dawkins or Trotter or Jevon...Westbrook will be great but he will NOT have to carry the birds...

There is NO defensive player on Minny that can cover Westbrook running the angle routes out if the backfield and swing passes in the flat. Let's also not forget that McNabb has one hell of an arm, great leadership and can throw a bit too. Why have so many people forgotten that McNabb has been an elite NFL QB for FIVE seasons without TO.

The Eagles' run defense has gotten good enough to be able to stop the Minny run game, not to mention the fact that Minny will get away from the run game early as they look pass often and early. The Minny passing game is good but the Eagles pass rush is VERY good and... oh yeah, by the way... the Birds have THREE pro-bowlers in the secondary and their best cover guy isn't even on of those three. The Eagles were able to shut Culpepper out of the end zone back in week 2 and will do it again.

The Vikes will be able to pass some but will struggle in the red zone again. I see the Eagles putting a lot of pressure on Culpepper and forcing him to make at least on major mistake sometime in the 1st half. The Birds offense will run a bit more than usual and give the Vikes a heavy dose of Westbrook by running a lot of the back-side screens, misdirection runs and quick angle routes out of the backfield. I also see them throwing a lot in up the seams and in the flats to the TE's. Also, McNabb will have several big runs that force the LB's to keep an eye on him and therefore they will NOT be able to focus on Westbrook.

This game will be close through three quarters but they Vikes don't have enough answers for McNabb and Westbrook and the Eagles will be better on special teams winning the field position battle. McNabb makes too many plays and the Birds will be up by 3-4 points when they score a TD late to put it away.

Westbrook will have two touchdown receptions and LJ Smith will have another to go with three Aker's FG's. The Vikes will get into the redzone a few times but come away with only four FG's and a turnover or two.

Eagles 30

Vikings 19

 
I noticed that this weeks game is on Fox as well. Does this mean more of Buck ranting on Moss?
Yes, although Red apparently requested his removal from this game. I'll post the story so people don't need to register for the Star-Trib:McCombs asks Fox to remove Buck from announcing team in Philly

Associated Press

January 13, 2005

Minnesota Vikings owner Red McCombs asked Fox Sports to remove play-by-play announcer Joe Buck from Sunday's divisional playoff game at Philadelphia because of his sharp criticism of wide receiver Randy Moss.

After catching a touchdown pass in last weekend's win at Green Bay, Moss celebrated in the end zone by pretending to pull down his pants and moon the Packers fans before briefly wiggling his back side against the goalpost. Buck immediately called it a ``disgusting act.''

That statement, in McCombs' view, was out of line. A two-sentence news release issued by the team said McCombs felt Buck's comments ``suggested a prejudice that surpassed objective reporting.''

Dan Bell, a Fox spokesman, said the network has ``no intention whatsoever'' of removing Buck.

``We hope Mr. McCombs enjoys Joe's play-by-play call Sunday, because he'll be in the booth,'' Bell said.

McCombs, whose office is in San Antonio, was not immediately available for further comment.

Buck, during an interview on Sporting News Radio earlier this week, stood by his criticism.

``I have nothing against Randy Moss,'' Buck said. ``I don't even know the guy. I just know that with the history that he's had, and coming off that game at Washington, it was just stunning to see that.''

Moss drew plenty of negative scrutiny the week before for walking off the field in frustration while his teammates lined up for an onside kick with 2 seconds left in a 21-18 loss to the Redskins.

 
Here's Min's first report on injuries.Tice says Moe will play even though listed as doubtful. Moss missed practice but is probable.It looks like pre-game injuries will not be much of a factor, and that I am thankful for that. No excuses.(Still can't decide if I should sell this ticket or not - I am currently unemployed :cry: - but certain this will be an entertaining game)
Can't believe Moe's leg is only sprained. That hit looked for sure like a break the way his ankle bent.
 
As of this posting, the vote is currently 98 to 80 in favor of the Eagles... I can't figure out why this voting is even close. It ought to be 140-38. The only people who should be voting for the Vikes are die-hard Vikes fans and true-blue Philly haters (blue for Dallas and NY). Any person with a brain and logical common sense with no emotional blinders should be voting for the Eagles!

I'm not saying that the Eagles are going to blow the game out nor am I saying that the Vikes have no chance. They DO have a chance and the game will be close thru 3 quarters for sure, but for that many people to actually believe that the Vikings will win this game; that's absolutely mind-boggling... come on guys, are we serious here?

Did I miss something? Did McNabb say he's not going to play? Is Jevon Kearse taking the week off? Did Brian Dawkins and Brian Westbrook go on vacation?

Was I dreaming when three members of the Eagles' secondary were named to the pro-bowl?

Did Minnesota somehow acquire Ray Lewis and Champ Bailey this week?

I mean, seriously... this Eagles' team is FAR & AWAY better than minny...

 
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here's what I simply cannot get over.The Vikings were 8-7, going to a beaten Washington team, and all they had to do was beat one of the worst teams in the NFL to make the playoffs. At the time, they were not in.And they go lay an egg in a must-win game with their WHOLE SEASON ON THE LINE.Yes, fine, they went to Green Bay and beat their rivals..a team with a horrible defense and a quarterback playing like a ######ed kid on the sandlot...and now all of a sudden I'm supposed to believe that they are going to go beat a 13-3 team on the road in the playoffs?:crazy:People, they went 8-8 on the season..in the horrible NFC..when they were literally a missed extra-point from heading to OT against a wretched Detroit team a month ago..when their defense is as bad as it is..when they have a guy who is as close to buffoonery as it gets on their sideline. And again..people actually expect them to win this game?:crazy:Maybe I'll be wrong, and as a known Philly-hater I hope I am, but I would be absolutely amazed if this dog of a team pulled this off.Amazing. This is how Vegas has all those shiny casinos.
How hard is it to understand? The Vikings played the Eagles very tough in Week 2. They lost by 11 points, 7 of which were only on the board because Tice didn't challenge that TO catch.That was in Philly with TO. The Vikings were without Michael Bennett as well. I think he's going to play a big part in the Vikings offense to counter the Eagles blitzing.You don't think the Vikings have a chance. Fine, but if you are just going to blindly look at regular season records, no one is going to take your opinion seriously. The Vikings were a completely different team than the team that fell apart at the end of the regular season. It is a team that's proven the last two years, when they are hot, they are one of the best teams in the league. What better momentum builder than a win of the hated rival in their place.BTW who did the Eagles get those 13 wins from? 2 from the Giants. 2 from Dallas. 2 from Washington. 1 from Lions, Bears and Browns. You complain about the Vikings almost losing to the Lions and losing to the Redskins, why not also mention that 9 of the Eagles 13 wins came from that group of teams? When they played the Redskins in Washington, they only won by 3 points. They needed OT to beat the Browns.The great Eagles team that played a grand total of 4 playoff teams this year (3 from the horrible NFC).You wonder why so many people think the Vikings have a chance in the game. It's because the Vikings were impressive last week and no one knows what the Eagles offense will look like without TO. The Vikings played them tough in Week 2, I see no reason not to expect a similar result.
 
As of this posting, the vote is currently 98 to 80 in favor of the Eagles... I can't figure out why this voting is even close. It ought to be 140-38. The only people who should be voting for the Vikes are die-hard Vikes fans and true-blue Philly haters (blue for Dallas and NY). Any person with a brain and logical common sense with no emotional blinders should be voting for the Eagles!

I'm not saying that the Eagles are going to blow the game out nor am I saying that the Vikes have no chance. They DO have a chance and the game will be close thru 3 quarters for sure, but for that many people to actually believe that the Vikings will win this game; that's absolutely mind-boggling... come on guys, are we serious here?

Did I miss something? Did McNabb say he's not going to play? Is Jevon Kearse taking the week off? Did Brian Dawkins and Brian Westbrook go on vacation?

Was I dreaming when three members of the Eagles' secondary were named to the pro-bowl?

Did Minnesota somehow acquire Ray Lewis and Champ Bailey this week?

I mean, seriously... this Eagles' team is FAR & AWAY better than minny...
Take a look at the polls over on espn.com. The result of this poll is typical of the thinking of sports fans across the nation.
 

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