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Missing Cleveland teens found Alive 10 years after being abducted! (1 Viewer)

Not sure if this was posted yet or not. Charles Ramsey's 911 call. :lmao:

http://www.grab-media.com/premium-videos/5103872/
That 911 operator wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed, asking the caller for his phone number. :rolleyes:

911 operator: Does she need an ambulance?

Ramsey: "You need an ambulance?"

Ramsey: "She need everything. She been kidnapped, so put yousef in her shoes."
:lmao:

hey check this out, i just came from mack donalds right, so im on my porch eating my little food right"

"like a wife beater".

"nah nah I'm smarter than that bro"

"I don't have a ####### clue bro like i said i just came home from mack donalds"

:moneybag:

 
"I barbeque with this dude, we eat ribs and whatnot and listen to salsa music, you see where I'm comin' from?"

 
Good God, "experts" on CNN criticizing Cleveland police for not doing a "Boston Style" sweep of all Cleveland homes to look for these girls 10 years ago. These braindead panel hosts don't even question the reality of doing stuff like that.

 
Apparently this guy was a school bus driver! How creepy is that. They have also arrested his 2 brothers.

 
Trapped in a house for 10 years and you can't get out?

Break down a door? Break a window? Start a fire?

Guys holding them were there 24/7 for 10 staright years?

Something doesn't add up here.

 
Trapped in a house for 10 years and you can't get out?

Break down a door? Break a window? Start a fire?

Guys holding them were there 24/7 for 10 staright years?

Something doesn't add up here.
Yeah, I am happy that they are finally free too!

:rolleyes:

 
Trapped in a house for 10 years and you can't get out?

Break down a door? Break a window? Start a fire?

Guys holding them were there 24/7 for 10 staright years?

Something doesn't add up here.
Apparently there is some evidence they were bound for very long periods of time. I would suggest we wait to blame the victims another few hours at least.

 
Trapped in a house for 10 years and you can't get out?

Break down a door? Break a window? Start a fire?

Guys holding them were there 24/7 for 10 staright years?

Something doesn't add up here.
Rescued kidnapping victim Elizabeth Smart said Wednesday she understands why some human trafficking victims don't run.

Smart said she "felt so dirty and so filthy" after she was raped by her captor, and she understands why someone wouldn't run "because of that alone."

Smart spoke at a Johns Hopkins human trafficking forum, saying she was raised in a religious household and recalled a school teacher who spoke once about abstinence and compared sex to chewing gum.

"I thought, 'Oh, my gosh, I'm that chewed up piece of gum, nobody re-chews a piece of gum, you throw it away.' And that's how easy it is to feel like you know longer have worth, you know longer have value," Smart said. "Why would it even be worth screaming out? Why would it even make a difference if you are rescued? Your life still has no value."

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2013/0504/Elizabeth-Smart-speaks-on-human-trafficking
 
Think of the psychological trama, they were all likely terrified
Exactly. There are countless studies and theories as to why victims react the way they do in captivity. Ultimately the brain does what it has to survive I guess.

 
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Trapped in a house for 10 years and you can't get out?

Break down a door? Break a window? Start a fire?

Guys holding them were there 24/7 for 10 staright years?

Something doesn't add up here.
Rescued kidnapping victim Elizabeth Smart said Wednesday she understands why some human trafficking victims don't run.

Smart said she "felt so dirty and so filthy" after she was raped by her captor, and she understands why someone wouldn't run "because of that alone."

Smart spoke at a Johns Hopkins human trafficking forum, saying she was raised in a religious household and recalled a school teacher who spoke once about abstinence and compared sex to chewing gum.

"I thought, 'Oh, my gosh, I'm that chewed up piece of gum, nobody re-chews a piece of gum, you throw it away.' And that's how easy it is to feel like you know longer have worth, you know longer have value," Smart said. "Why would it even be worth screaming out? Why would it even make a difference if you are rescued? Your life still has no value."

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2013/0504/Elizabeth-Smart-speaks-on-human-trafficking
I read that. Very sad that she felt that way. I would be completely mortified and heartbroken if I were her parents and she told me that. How do you live with knowing that was your message and this is how it affected your daughter?

 
Put away the torches & pitchforks - not blaming the victims here at all.

Just trying to understand how 3 grown adults can't get out of a house? Looking at the pictures of the house the neighbors are right on top of each other too.

 
Not sure if this was posted yet or not. Charles Ramsey's 911 call. :lmao:

http://www.grab-media.com/premium-videos/5103872/
This is a real life example of something I really really hate. Charles is not acting crazy, he is simply explaining what is happening to the 911 dispatcher. I certainly think he is about as calm as you are going to be in that situation. Sure the McDonald's and just moving into the area stuff is not needed but who cares? The 911 dispatcher should have just taken the information and not said "You need to calm down"...I hate when I am not raising my voice but trying to correct someone or the situation and someone starts with the "calm down" stuff.

I feel terrible for the women but this thread is not about them anymore, it's about Charles, dud is total money, someone needs to jump in and get this man a microphone and a cameraman to walk around with him. 1st show should be a weekly news magazine called Cleveland with Charles.

 
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Put away the torches & pitchforks - not blaming the victims here at all.

Just trying to understand how 3 grown adults can't get out of a house? Looking at the pictures of the house the neighbors are right on top of each other too.
Well, I'm guessing all 3 felt like they needed to escape at the same time, else something really bad (i.e. murder) would happen to the one(s) left behind. Add in the 6 year old daughter, then it makes it even more difficult.

 
Put away the torches & pitchforks - not blaming the victims here at all.

Just trying to understand how 3 grown adults can't get out of a house? Looking at the pictures of the house the neighbors are right on top of each other too.
You never heard of the Helsinki, Sweden Syndrome?

 
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Trapped in a house for 10 years and you can't get out?

Break down a door? Break a window? Start a fire?

Guys holding them were there 24/7 for 10 staright years?

Something doesn't add up here.
Yeah. First thing I'd do if I was chained in a basement is start a fire. What are you, stupid?

 
I like how Charles managed to bleep himself on live TV and say "####" when you know he says balls around his buddies. He managed to say a few curse words that the 911 operator started getting his panties in a knot about, that's why he told the guy to calm down. Apparently curse words mean you are automatically on the war path.

T-E-S-T-I-C-L-E is a bad word?

 
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According to the CNN article, the police were called by a neighbor who heard yelling in the house. They showed up and left because no one answered the door.

Is that SOP these days? "Well, we're here for a domestic disturbance call, but no one's answering the door. That's that!"

 
According to the CNN article, the police were called by a neighbor who heard yelling in the house. They showed up and left because no one answered the door.

Is that SOP these days? "Well, we're here for a domestic disturbance call, but no one's answering the door. That's that!"
Anything is possible with the police. They let me walk out of a police station at 3 AM once and they should not have but I was thankful they did. Not all police in every city are the same. I would rate the Boston Police Dept for example a couple steps ahead of say the Miami Police Dept.

 
According to the CNN article, the police were called by a neighbor who heard yelling in the house. They showed up and left because no one answered the door.

Is that SOP these days? "Well, we're here for a domestic disturbance call, but no one's answering the door. That's that!"
Unless the police can hear something, there's no probable cause for them to enter.

 
According to the CNN article, the police were called by a neighbor who heard yelling in the house. They showed up and left because no one answered the door.

Is that SOP these days? "Well, we're here for a domestic disturbance call, but no one's answering the door. That's that!"
Unless the police can hear something, there's no probable cause for them to enter.
Well, that's arguable depending on the call, but never come back? You get a call about a domestic dispute, you show up to silence, you decide you don't have probable cause to enter (which, again, is arguable) and you never return to see if there are a bunch of dead bodies in there or anything?

 
That's my plan! I am going to rob a bank and when the police show up, Ill close the doors and tell everyone to be quiet.

 
According to the CNN article, the police were called by a neighbor who heard yelling in the house. They showed up and left because no one answered the door.

Is that SOP these days? "Well, we're here for a domestic disturbance call, but no one's answering the door. That's that!"
Unless the police can hear something, there's no probable cause for them to enter.
Well, that's arguable depending on the call, but never come back? You get a call about a domestic dispute, you show up to silence, you decide you don't have probable cause to enter (which, again, is arguable) and you never return to see if there are a bunch of dead bodies in there or anything?
It's an urban environment, I'm sure you can imagine some of the things police see in a city like Cleveland. Yells inside a house are behind murders, rapes, assaults, armed robberies, knife fights in the park and hit and runs.

 
Trapped in a house for 10 years and you can't get out?

Break down a door? Break a window? Start a fire?

Guys holding them were there 24/7 for 10 staright years?

Something doesn't add up here.
Rescued kidnapping victim Elizabeth Smart said Wednesday she understands why some human trafficking victims don't run.

Smart said she "felt so dirty and so filthy" after she was raped by her captor, and she understands why someone wouldn't run "because of that alone."

Smart spoke at a Johns Hopkins human trafficking forum, saying she was raised in a religious household and recalled a school teacher who spoke once about abstinence and compared sex to chewing gum.

"I thought, 'Oh, my gosh, I'm that chewed up piece of gum, nobody re-chews a piece of gum, you throw it away.' And that's how easy it is to feel like you know longer have worth, you know longer have value," Smart said. "Why would it even be worth screaming out? Why would it even make a difference if you are rescued? Your life still has no value."

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2013/0504/Elizabeth-Smart-speaks-on-human-trafficking
I read that. Very sad that she felt that way. I would be completely mortified and heartbroken if I were her parents and she told me that. How do you live with knowing that was your message and this is how it affected your daughter?
According to that quote it was the teacher that said that not the parents.
 
Trapped in a house for 10 years and you can't get out?

Break down a door? Break a window? Start a fire?

Guys holding them were there 24/7 for 10 staright years?

Something doesn't add up here.
Rescued kidnapping victim Elizabeth Smart said Wednesday she understands why some human trafficking victims don't run.

Smart said she "felt so dirty and so filthy" after she was raped by her captor, and she understands why someone wouldn't run "because of that alone."

Smart spoke at a Johns Hopkins human trafficking forum, saying she was raised in a religious household and recalled a school teacher who spoke once about abstinence and compared sex to chewing gum.

"I thought, 'Oh, my gosh, I'm that chewed up piece of gum, nobody re-chews a piece of gum, you throw it away.' And that's how easy it is to feel like you know longer have worth, you know longer have value," Smart said. "Why would it even be worth screaming out? Why would it even make a difference if you are rescued? Your life still has no value."

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2013/0504/Elizabeth-Smart-speaks-on-human-trafficking
I read that. Very sad that she felt that way. I would be completely mortified and heartbroken if I were her parents and she told me that. How do you live with knowing that was your message and this is how it affected your daughter?
According to that quote it was the teacher that said that not the parents.
In the article I read she talked about how she was raised in a very strict religious that supported those comments.

 
According to the CNN article, the police were called by a neighbor who heard yelling in the house. They showed up and left because no one answered the door.

Is that SOP these days? "Well, we're here for a domestic disturbance call, but no one's answering the door. That's that!"
Unless the police can hear something, there's no probable cause for them to enter.
Well, that's arguable depending on the call, but never come back? You get a call about a domestic dispute, you show up to silence, you decide you don't have probable cause to enter (which, again, is arguable) and you never return to see if there are a bunch of dead bodies in there or anything?
It's an urban environment, I'm sure you can imagine some of the things police see in a city like Cleveland. Yells inside a house are behind murders, rapes, assaults, armed robberies, knife fights in the park and hit and runs.
And that's just our new 7th round draft pick!

 

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