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DropKick said:
Jules Winnfield said:
Brady Marino said:
I'm here for news on the plane, not some silly tickle fight among internet posters. I don't give a #### about your quarrel, so shut the #### up about it.
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I agree with you about the in-fighting but you seriously come here for world news? If you see the posts here you can tell that no one has any facts or a clue about anything at any given time

Come to the FBG for news about something taking place in Asia? Why?
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Cut him some slack. It was a cleverly disguised WDIS post.

And Brady/Marino... never bench your studs.
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You confuse me for someone that actually goes to the Assistant Coach forum once in a blue moon. Nice try.

 
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Christo said:
Mr. Retukes said:
Dr. Gobbler said:
Otis said:
787>747

FriendlySkiez

StewardessDreams

Caulkpit

JumpseatJimmy

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People died and you people are making up Screen Names for Christo on Flight Blogs????Unbelievable!!

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CheckInMyLuggage_CheckOutMyManBag
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IBuy2Seats
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I fly First Class.
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Just because you sit in the first row on Southwest doesn't make it First Class.
 
Dr. Gobbler said:
Christo said:
Mr. Retukes said:
Dr. Gobbler said:
Otis said:
787>747

FriendlySkiez

StewardessDreams

Caulkpit

JumpseatJimmy

Capn'Munch

MillionMiler
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People died and you people are making up Screen Names for Christo on Flight Blogs????Unbelievable!!

UnshavedRewardPointsLover

HairyBusinessClass

CheckInMyLuggage_CheckOutMyManBag
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IBuy2Seats
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I fly First Class.
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Just because you sit in the first row on Southwest doesn't make it First Class.
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Southwest :lmao:

 
Heard a stat today. 120 people every day , almost 43,000 people every year in the USA are killed in auto crashes. 3000 every day or over 1 million people in the world are killed every year in auto crashes.

Commercial Plane crashes kill 200-250 every 5-6 years. Even though this is only 2 days on US roads. It does intrigue me as well. Like being trapped in a submarine. I know auto crashes are usually over in an instant. Hopefully this was the same.

The bottom line is the safety record of flying is undisputable. (Other than Russia)

 
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Da Guru said:
Heard a stat today. 120 people every day , almost 43,000 people every year in the USA are killed in auto crashes. 3000 every day or over 1 million people in the world are killed every day in auto crashes.

Commercial Plane crashes kill 200-250 every 5-6 years. Even though this is only 2 days on US roads. It does intrigue me as well. Like being trapped in a submarine. I know auto crashes are usually over in an instant. Hopefully this was the same.

The bottom line is the safety record of flying is undisputable. (Other than Russia)
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Every year, not every day.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
Da Guru said:
Heard a stat today. 120 people every day , almost 43,000 people every year in the USA are killed in auto crashes. 3000 every day or over 1 million people in the world are killed every day in auto crashes.

Commercial Plane crashes kill 200-250 every 5-6 years. Even though this is only 2 days on US roads. It does intrigue me as well. Like being trapped in a submarine. I know auto crashes are usually over in an instant. Hopefully this was the same.

The bottom line is the safety record of flying is undisputable. (Other than Russia)
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Every year, not every day.
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Damn! I thought we'd finally solved the population problem.

BTW, you're a little out of date. In 2011, 32,000 were killed in the US. The rate has been going down steadily.

 
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Da Guru said:
Heard a stat today. 120 people every day , almost 43,000 people every year in the USA are killed in auto crashes. 3000 every day or over 1 million people in the world are killed every day in auto crashes.

Commercial Plane crashes kill 200-250 every 5-6 years. Even though this is only 2 days on US roads. It does intrigue me as well. Like being trapped in a submarine. I know auto crashes are usually over in an instant. Hopefully this was the same.

The bottom line is the safety record of flying is undisputable. (Other than Russia)
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More people travel by car every day and there are more miles driven than flown. Your stat is somewhat apples and oranges.

 
DiStefano said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Da Guru said:
Heard a stat today. 120 people every day , almost 43,000 people every year in the USA are killed in auto crashes. 3000 every day or over 1 million people in the world are killed every day in auto crashes.

Commercial Plane crashes kill 200-250 every 5-6 years. Even though this is only 2 days on US roads. It does intrigue me as well. Like being trapped in a submarine. I know auto crashes are usually over in an instant. Hopefully this was the same.

The bottom line is the safety record of flying is undisputable. (Other than Russia)
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Every year, not every day.
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Damn! I thought we'd finally solved the population problem.

BTW, you're a little out of date. In 2011, 32,000 were killed in the US. The rate has been going down steadily.
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Stand corrected... 43,000 was a typo You are correct, there were only 33,000 killed in autos in the USA last year. A little over one million killed a year worldwide as well , not day.

 
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KCitons said:
Rohn Jambo said:
What has me confused is the conflicting reports on when and where the plane was last seen on radar. I wish CNN can get to the bottom of this for me.

The flight departed Kuala Lumpur International Airport at 00:41, 8 March Malaysia time (16:41, 7 March UTC) and was last seen on ATC radar at 6°55′15″N 103°34′43″E (approximately 180 km/100 mi NNE of Kuala Terengganu, Malaysia). The aircraft ceased all communications and the transponder signal was lost right before it was passed off to the Ho Chi Minh Area Control Center.

The Aviation Herald reported that Subang Air Traffic Control lost radar and radio contact with the aircraft at 01:22 and officially advised Malaysia Airlines at 02:40 that the aircraft was missing. However, a Malaysia Airlines spokesperson said that the last conversation between the flight crew and air traffic control in Malaysia had been around 01:30, and stated that the plane had not disappeared from air traffic control systems in Subang until 02:40, which is long enough for the plane to have been flying across Vietnam.

Malaysia Airlines issued a media release stating that contact was lost at 02:40 when the aircraft was approximately 120 nautical miles (220 km) east of Kota Bharu at the South China Sea, which is the border of Malaysian and Vietnamese airspace. The plane relayed no distress signal, indications of bad weather or technical problems before vanishing from radar screens. The flight was scheduled to land at Beijing Capital International Airport at 06:30. When radar contact with the aircraft was lost, it was carrying enough fuel for an additional 7.5 hours of flying time. Relevant authorities in China and Thailand informed their Malaysian counterparts that the aircraft had not entered their airspace.

According to Admiral Ngo Van Phat of the Vietnam People's Navy, military radar lost the plane "some 153 nautical miles (300 km)" south of Thổ Chu in the Gulf of Thailand. The Vietnamese government initially reported that the aircraft had crashed at sea in the Gulf of Thailand, although the airline denied this claim, and the claim about the known location of the aircraft by the Vietnamese Navy was rejected by Malaysian Minister of Transport, Hishammuddin Hussein. The Vietnamese Navy later clarified that the admiral had actually been referring to the location where contact was last made, rather than indicating a crash site.
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I'm not 100% certain about this, but I think they keep referencing two different things. One being radar contact and the other being radio contact. This was why I made reference to the Bay of Thailand earlier. That was the last point the plane was on the radar. But, reports keep saying contact was lost over the South China Sea. :shrug:
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There are at least two different stories so someone may be lying.Vietnam said the plane disappeared from their military radar 40 minutes into the flight, when it just reached cruising altitude but still climbing. The oil slicks their navy found is in the Gulf of Thailand (to the South of Vietnam and much closer to Malaysia).

The Airline said the plane disappeared from Malaysia Traffic Control radar 2 hours into the flight when it would have crossed Vietnam and been cruising for a while. This places the last location in the South China Sea.

I still have to check out the Malaysian Transportation/Defense Minister and Subang Traffic Control to see their affiliation.

ETA: MAS is a government run privatized airline.

 
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Rohn Jambo said:
There are at least two different stories so someone may be lying.Vietnam said the plane disappeared from their military radar 40 minutes into the flight, when it just reached cruising altitude but still climbing. The oil slicks their navy found is in the Gulf of Thailand (to the South of Vietnam and much closer to Malaysia).

The Airline said the plane disappeared from Malaysia Traffic Control radar 2 hours into the flight when it would have crossed Vietnam and been cruising for a while. This places the last location in the South China Sea.

I still have to check out the Malaysian Transportation/Defense Minister and Subang Traffic Control to see their affiliation.

ETA: MAS is a government run privatized airline.
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I've seen at least one report that showed the oil slick location in the South China Sea. Just off the Eastern coast of Vietnam.

At this point, I don't think anyone knows what's going on. The search area seems to be getting larger with each passing hour. I read one report that said instrument malfunction could have caused the pilots to veer 3000 miles off course before running out of fuel. (highly unlikely, but possible)

I feel really bad for the family members of the passengers. I'm sure they are assuming the worst, but not knowing for certain has to be gut wrenching.

 
They have widened the search considerably now to the Strait of Malacca which sits on the opposite side of the country from the last place this plane was supposedly spotted or in contact with the towers.

 
Everyone in here knows the story of KAL 007 right? I don't want to ad to any of the crummy posts and I didn't think much of the passports but now RJ has another link showing more of them...if it were foul play I would have to think a big and very visible mess would be left behind and also all airlines would be grounded if the World thought this was the beginning of some diabolical terrorists.

They typically want everyone to see their work, not see how they can sink one into the ocean without leaving a trace. The widening of the search from what I could read could be that the plane tried to turn around and come back. It's hard to grasp what could cause it to have such a sudden and catastrophic plunge.

I also think it's time to get someone's navy out there and start scouring the bottom of the ocean quickly. Not that anyone can be rescued but before the water carries everything into 50 different directions. This is gonna be a sad wreckage recovery when they figure out where it is.

 
Is it OK to question why they aren't searching under water from where these oil slicks were discovered? I don't get it, seems like a dead giveaway where it went down, no?

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Is it OK to question why they aren't searching under water from where these oil slicks were discovered? I don't get it, seems like a dead giveaway where it went down, no?
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I don't know what kind of resources they have for deep water searching. I mentioned earlier that the South China Sea has depths nearing 3k feet off the coast of Vietnam.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
They have widened the search considerably now to the Strait of Malacca which sits on the opposite side of the country from the last place this plane was supposedly spotted or in contact with the towers.
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They found no debris but probably need sonar equipment to check the sea floor.
 
Rohn Jambo said:
Christo said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Is it OK to question why they aren't searching under water from where these oil slicks were discovered? I don't get it, seems like a dead giveaway where it went down, no?
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Do the Malaysian or Vietnamese navies have the capability?
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They are getting help from other countries. Already asked each country to verify passengers on the manifest.
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Verifying passengers on a manifest is a little different than getting the right assets to do an underwater search possibly 3000 feet below the surface of a crash site that was just discovered less than a dozen hours ago.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Everyone in here knows the story of KAL 007 right? I don't want to ad to any of the crummy posts and I didn't think much of the passports but now RJ has another link showing more of them...if it were foul play I would have to think a big and very visible mess would be left behind and also all airlines would be grounded if the World thought this was the beginning of some diabolical terrorists.

They typically want everyone to see their work, not see how they can sink one into the ocean without leaving a trace. The widening of the search from what I could read could be that the plane tried to turn around and come back. It's hard to grasp what could cause it to have such a sudden and catastrophic plunge.

I also think it's time to get someone's navy out there and start scouring the bottom of the ocean quickly. Not that anyone can be rescued but before the water carries everything into 50 different directions. This is gonna be a sad wreckage recovery when they figure out where it is.
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Christo said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Is it OK to question why they aren't searching under water from where these oil slicks were discovered? I don't get it, seems like a dead giveaway where it went down, no?
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Do the Malaysian or Vietnamese navies have the capability?
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You all are so quick to try and and shame anyone who asks a question that isn't up to your legal standards but if you would just read carefully before trying to hit the button you might see that I implied that someone needs to step in.

I also referenced the KAL007 flight because America tried to help there and Russia hampered the efforts at the start.

I should know better than to poke my head in these threads, the FBG crack staff of pseudo journalists are on top of it all.

 
Christo said:
Rohn Jambo said:
Christo said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Is it OK to question why they aren't searching under water from where these oil slicks were discovered? I don't get it, seems like a dead giveaway where it went down, no?
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Do the Malaysian or Vietnamese navies have the capability?
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They are getting help from other countries. Already asked each country to verify passengers on the manifest.
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Verifying passengers on a manifest is a little different than getting the right assets to do an underwater search possibly 3000 feet below the surface of a crash site that was just discovered less than a dozen hours ago.
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Singapore sending 3 frigates with sonars but they're not like the deep sea diving little subs used to find the Titantic.
 
Rohn Jambo said:
Ministry of Pain said:
They have widened the search considerably now to the Strait of Malacca which sits on the opposite side of the country from the last place this plane was supposedly spotted or in contact with the towers.
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They found no debris but probably need sonar equipment to check the sea floor.
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Good point, I am not reading where America is rushing over there. Is China capable of doing this? Is there a problem for Western intervention here? I don't dial into the 24 hour news stations so I have no idea what the talking heads are saying.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Everyone in here knows the story of KAL 007 right? I don't want to ad to any of the crummy posts and I didn't think much of the passports but now RJ has another link showing more of them...if it were foul play I would have to think a big and very visible mess would be left behind and also all airlines would be grounded if the World thought this was the beginning of some diabolical terrorists.

They typically want everyone to see their work, not see how they can sink one into the ocean without leaving a trace. The widening of the search from what I could read could be that the plane tried to turn around and come back. It's hard to grasp what could cause it to have such a sudden and catastrophic plunge.

I also think it's time to get someone's navy out there and start scouring the bottom of the ocean quickly. Not that anyone can be rescued but before the water carries everything into 50 different directions. This is gonna be a sad wreckage recovery when they figure out where it is.
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Christo said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Is it OK to question why they aren't searching under water from where these oil slicks were discovered? I don't get it, seems like a dead giveaway where it went down, no?
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Do the Malaysian or Vietnamese navies have the capability?
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You all are so quick to try and and shame anyone who asks a question that isn't up to your legal standards but if you would just read carefully before trying to hit the button you might see that I implied that someone needs to step in.

I also referenced the KAL007 flight because America tried to help there and Russia hampered the efforts at the start.

I should know better than to poke my head in these threads, the FBG crack staff of pseudo journalists are on top of it all.
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You asked why they weren't searching. I asked whether the two closest navies had the ability to do a search. If you feel shame, that's on you, not me.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Everyone in here knows the story of KAL 007 right? I don't want to ad to any of the crummy posts and I didn't think much of the passports but now RJ has another link showing more of them...if it were foul play I would have to think a big and very visible mess would be left behind and also all airlines would be grounded if the World thought this was the beginning of some diabolical terrorists.

They typically want everyone to see their work, not see how they can sink one into the ocean without leaving a trace. The widening of the search from what I could read could be that the plane tried to turn around and come back. It's hard to grasp what could cause it to have such a sudden and catastrophic plunge.

I also think it's time to get someone's navy out there and start scouring the bottom of the ocean quickly. Not that anyone can be rescued but before the water carries everything into 50 different directions. This is gonna be a sad wreckage recovery when they figure out where it is.
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Christo said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Is it OK to question why they aren't searching under water from where these oil slicks were discovered? I don't get it, seems like a dead giveaway where it went down, no?
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Do the Malaysian or Vietnamese navies have the capability?
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You all are so quick to try and and shame anyone who asks a question that isn't up to your legal standards but if you would just read carefully before trying to hit the button you might see that I implied that someone needs to step in. I also referenced the KAL007 flight because America tried to help there and Russia hampered the efforts at the start.

I should know better than to poke my head in these threads, the FBG crack staff of pseudo journalists are on top of it all.
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Jambo News is doing my best, GB. Maybe you can help by making more predictions?

 
Christo said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Everyone in here knows the story of KAL 007 right? I don't want to ad to any of the crummy posts and I didn't think much of the passports but now RJ has another link showing more of them...if it were foul play I would have to think a big and very visible mess would be left behind and also all airlines would be grounded if the World thought this was the beginning of some diabolical terrorists.

They typically want everyone to see their work, not see how they can sink one into the ocean without leaving a trace. The widening of the search from what I could read could be that the plane tried to turn around and come back. It's hard to grasp what could cause it to have such a sudden and catastrophic plunge.

I also think it's time to get someone's navy out there and start scouring the bottom of the ocean quickly. Not that anyone can be rescued but before the water carries everything into 50 different directions. This is gonna be a sad wreckage recovery when they figure out where it is.
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Christo said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Is it OK to question why they aren't searching under water from where these oil slicks were discovered? I don't get it, seems like a dead giveaway where it went down, no?
Click to expand...
Do the Malaysian or Vietnamese navies have the capability?
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You all are so quick to try and and shame anyone who asks a question that isn't up to your legal standards but if you would just read carefully before trying to hit the button you might see that I implied that someone needs to step in.

I also referenced the KAL007 flight because America tried to help there and Russia hampered the efforts at the start.

I should know better than to poke my head in these threads, the FBG crack staff of pseudo journalists are on top of it all.
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You asked why they weren't searching. I asked whether the two closest navies had the ability to do a search. If you feel shame, that's on you, not me.
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I thought you misspelled natives

 
*Malaysia Aviation Regulator: Has Video Recording of Two Passengers With Stolen Passports

*Malaysia Aviation Regulator: Video Records Show Passengers With Stolen Passport From Check-in to Departure

*Malaysia Aviation Regulator: Video Recording Being Investigated

 
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Malaysia Airlines CEO: No Plan To Ground Boeing 777 Planes

*Malaysia Air Force Chief: Military Radar Indicates Possible Turn Back

*Malaysia Air Force Chief: Radar Reading Corroborated By Some Civilian Radar

*Malaysia Air Force Chief: Still Studying Radar Data On Missing Plane

 
John Bender said:
DiStefano said:
Lutherman2112 said:
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MAC_32 said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Air France 447 didn't send any distress signals either.
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pretty sure that flight was still ascending though, big difference vs cruising altitude.
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It was at cruising altitude, over three hours from departure. Ran into big thunderstorm, though.
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Storm had little affect on that plane, with one exception:

We now understand that, indeed, AF447 passed into clouds associated with a large system of thunderstorms, its speed sensors became iced over, and the autopilot disengaged. In the ensuing confusion, the pilots lost control of the airplane because they reacted incorrectly to the loss of instrumentation and then seemed unable to comprehend the nature of the problems they had caused. Neither weather nor malfunction doomed AF447, nor a complex chain of error, but a simple but persistent mistake on the part of one of the pilots.
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That, and the fact that the chief pilot was taking a leak.
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He was sleeping. One of the major reasons for that crash
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he left two co pilots with 9000 flying hours in charge. when he was alerted he couldn't get the situation under control either

 
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