Missing Malaysian jet news (1 Viewer)

[Scoresman]

Could you save the turd dropping for your turd eating threads?

this whole thread is turd dropping. if you want news go to cnn , not an internet message board.

 

[T Bell]

The last commercial airline flight which crashed due to turbulence was 1966. Turbulence did contribute to an AirFrance crash in 2009, but that was more because the pilot error in trying to maneuver around and miss the turbulence. Aircraft have been design has advanced quite a bit since 1966.

The Air France flight had ice on its airspeed indicators meaning that the pilots were getting erroneous information about their speed and hence their position, which they compounded by making poor decisions in controlling the plane. It wasn't "turbulence".

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Maybe we should just drop MoP in the water near the oil slick and he can float around calling out "Marco!" to help search for survivors.

Polo!

 

[jon_mx]

Could you save the turd dropping for your turd eating threads?

this whole thread is turd dropping. if you want news go to cnn , not an internet message board.

Attempting to make a joke (and a horrible attempt at that even) at the fate of 239 missing people is not appropriate for this site IMHO.

 

[Scoresman]

Could you save the turd dropping for your turd eating threads?

this whole thread is turd dropping. if you want news go to cnn , not an internet message board.

Attempting to make a joke (and a horrible attempt at that even) at the fate of 239 missing people is not appropriate for this site IMHO.

Can you speak up louder? I can't hear you from all the way up on your moral high ground. There are different ways to deal with tragedy. When I go, I want people to deal with it however they want and if that means laughter, then that's fantastic.

 

[Das Boot]

This sounds a bit odd:

"Five passengers ended up not boarding the aircraft. Their bags were removed and were not on board the jet when it disappeared, Hussein said."

 

[Osaurus]

Desmond didn't punch in the code again

 

[Mr. Retukes]

This sounds a bit odd:

"Five passengers ended up not boarding the aircraft. Their bags were removed and were not on board the jet when it disappeared, Hussein said."

Maybe the flight was oversold and they volunteered to get bumped?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Terrorism? No evidence points to that at all.

Aside from the plane disappearing with no communication at all from the crew, you mean.

This could be a lot of things other than terrorism. But terrorism is the most likely a priori explanation IMO. Modern airplanes don't just drop from the sky in clear weather with no warning whatsoever. Of course everyone should keep an open mind until we know more.

Edit: Never mind. I'm just getting caught up with this thread and I see now that others have made this same point already. And it looks you're just fishing anyway. Please disregard.

 

[Das Boot]

This sounds a bit odd:

"Five passengers ended up not boarding the aircraft. Their bags were removed and were not on board the jet when it disappeared, Hussein said."

Maybe the flight was oversold and they volunteered to get bumped?

Good thought, that would be the Occam's Razor answer.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Yeah, there are industry people saying that it's not the least bit unusual for an international flight to have two stolen passports on it.

Well, this should be fixed...

The two people bought the tickets together. They had separate end destinations.

Not saying this isn't true, but stories like this often have these kind of nuggets of information float around early on, only to have them turn out to be completely untrue. I would take most information -- especially stuff involving stolen passports and the like -- with a grain of salt for the next day or two.

 

[lod01]

Clearly this is Obama's fault.

I wonder if he knows about it? He doesn't seem to know about much.....

He would have to tune into Faux news. Someone there is writing up something right now about homeland security and how he & the democrats dropped the ball in protecting everyone else that has a (possible) terrorist attack.

 

[gianmarco]

Is it OK to question why they aren't searching under water from where these oil slicks were discovered? I don't get it, seems like a dead giveaway where it went down, no?

Do the Malaysian or Vietnamese navies have the capability?

I follow some Malaysian and Vietnamese navy blogs and one of them said yes, yes they do.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Is it OK to question why they aren't searching under water from where these oil slicks were discovered? I don't get it, seems like a dead giveaway where it went down, no?

Do the Malaysian or Vietnamese navies have the capability?

I follow some Malaysian and Vietnamese navy blogs and one of them said yes, yes they do.

Well, since everyone else is doing it.....

 

[TxBuckeye]

Believe they found one of the doors floating near where the oil slick was spotted.

http://news.yahoo.com/vietnam-says-may-found-missing-jets-door-161951222.html

 

[Ministry of Pain]

From the World outside of FBG...

-The oil slicks are indicative of the two engines going down.

-There was no turbulence or bad weather.

-There was no indication of any mechanical problems whatsoever.

-Chances are very very slim of simple mechanical errors taking down the 777 in mid air with pretty clear weather.

I'm not wanting to fuel terrorist conspiracies here, it's hard to imagine what went wrong outside of criminal activity of some kind. Is there any way a missile or some type of friendly fire/military action was carried out and the governments are being slow to speak up? Are we back to the shoe bombs?

Or do we just wait until wreckage is recovered and believe whatever the committee that will be put together finds out?

I still wonder why planes don't come with safety measures like when things go wrong, roof disconnects and all passengers are ejected buckled to the seats with parachutes that would automatically dispense and at least give people a chance to survive. Have a homing signal on all the chairs...is it really that hard to put all this technology together to avoid these kind of things? I'm not buying terrorists yet, especially with nobody claiming any responsibility. Like I posted earlier, they typically want to make a big spectacle over land and not just sink something way out at sea.

 

[Johnny Rock]

Why can't they record cockpit conversations and radio transmissions in the Cloud (no pun intended) and use the Black Box as a back-up?

 

[KCitons]

Yeah, there are industry people saying that it's not the least bit unusual for an international flight to have two stolen passports on it.

Well, this should be fixed...

The two people bought the tickets together. They had separate end destinations.

Not saying this isn't true, but stories like this often have these kind of nuggets of information float around early on, only to have them turn out to be completely untrue. I would take most information -- especially stuff involving stolen passports and the like -- with a grain of salt for the next day or two.

Agreed. But Super Mario is alive in Italy, while his stolen passport is somewhere in the South China Sea.

 

[TxBuckeye]

I still wonder why planes don't come with safety measures like when things go wrong, roof disconnects and all passengers are ejected buckled to the seats with parachutes that would automatically dispense and at least give people a chance to survive. Have a homing signal on all the chairs...is it really that hard to put all this technology together to avoid these kind of things? I'm not buying terrorists yet, especially with nobody claiming any responsibility. Like I posted earlier, they typically want to make a big spectacle over land and not just sink something way out at sea.

Price of such a system, weight issues, space of the chute packs, breathing apparatus (clue, you eject at 35K feet, you are dead in a few seconds from cold, lack of oxygen and injuries from wind blasts going 400 mph or more). Really, unless there was a system to eject the entire enclosed cabin, this isn't remotely practical.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I still wonder why planes don't come with safety measures like when things go wrong, roof disconnects and all passengers are ejected buckled to the seats with parachutes that would automatically dispense and at least give people a chance to survive. Have a homing signal on all the chairs...is it really that hard to put all this technology together to avoid these kind of things? I'm not buying terrorists yet, especially with nobody claiming any responsibility. Like I posted earlier, they typically want to make a big spectacle over land and not just sink something way out at sea.

Price of such a system, weight issues, space of the chute packs, breathing apparatus (clue, you eject at 35K feet, you are dead in a few seconds from cold, lack of oxygen and injuries from wind blasts going 400 mph or more). Really, unless there was a system to eject the entire enclosed cabin, this isn't remotely practical.

We managed to fly to the moon. Virgin is going to have commercial space flights soon. There was that RedBull guy who jumped from like Jupiter. How can we be so obtuse about this?

 

[KCitons]

You would need to take out a second mortgage just to fly.

 

[El Floppo]

I still wonder why planes don't come with safety measures like when things go wrong, roof disconnects and all passengers are ejected buckled to the seats with parachutes that would automatically dispense and at least give people a chance to survive. Have a homing signal on all the chairs...is it really that hard to put all this technology together to avoid these kind of things? I'm not buying terrorists yet, especially with nobody claiming any responsibility. Like I posted earlier, they typically want to make a big spectacle over land and not just sink something way out at sea.

Price of such a system, weight issues, space of the chute packs, breathing apparatus (clue, you eject at 35K feet, you are dead in a few seconds from cold, lack of oxygen and injuries from wind blasts going 400 mph or more). Really, unless there was a system to eject the entire enclosed cabin, this isn't remotely practical.

We managed to fly to the moon. Virgin is going to have commercial space flights soon. There was that RedBull guy who jumped from like Jupiter. How can we be so obtuse about this?

While we're being obtuse, how about a crash-proof car.

 

[Christo]

From the World outside of FBG...

-The oil slicks are indicative of the two engines going down.

-There was no turbulence or bad weather.

-There was no indication of any mechanical problems whatsoever.

-Chances are very very slim of simple mechanical errors taking down the 777 in mid air with pretty clear weather.

I'm not wanting to fuel terrorist conspiracies here, it's hard to imagine what went wrong outside of criminal activity of some kind. Is there any way a missile or some type of friendly fire/military action was carried out and the governments are being slow to speak up? Are we back to the shoe bombs?

Or do we just wait until wreckage is recovered and believe whatever the committee that will be put together finds out?

I still wonder why planes don't come with safety measures like when things go wrong, roof disconnects and all passengers are ejected buckled to the seats with parachutes that would automatically dispense and at least give people a chance to survive. Have a homing signal on all the chairs...is it really that hard to put all this technology together to avoid these kind of things? I'm not buying terrorists yet, especially with nobody claiming any responsibility. Like I posted earlier, they typically want to make a big spectacle over land and not just sink something way out at sea.

Hold it. They've found a door and from that they have determined there was no indication of any mechanical problems. That must be a magical door.

 

[Christo]

I still wonder why planes don't come with safety measures like when things go wrong, roof disconnects and all passengers are ejected buckled to the seats with parachutes that would automatically dispense and at least give people a chance to survive. Have a homing signal on all the chairs...is it really that hard to put all this technology together to avoid these kind of things?

 

[TxBuckeye]

We managed to fly to the moon. Virgin is going to have commercial space flights soon. There was that RedBull guy who jumped from like Jupiter. How can we be so obtuse about this?

If you think putting every passenger in a pressurized space suit is plausible, then, yes, it is definitely possible. Enjoy the 12 hour pre-flight suit fitting, the three hour strap in process, and the extra $500k+ in your ticket price.

 

[fred_1_15301]

I still wonder why planes don't come with safety measures like when things go wrong, roof disconnects and all passengers are ejected buckled to the seats with parachutes that would automatically dispense and at least give people a chance to survive. Have a homing signal on all the chairs...is it really that hard to put all this technology together to avoid these kind of things?

Now I've heard it all

 

[Christo]

I still wonder why planes don't come with safety measures like when things go wrong, roof disconnects and all passengers are ejected buckled to the seats with parachutes that would automatically dispense and at least give people a chance to survive. Have a homing signal on all the chairs...is it really that hard to put all this technology together to avoid these kind of things? I'm not buying terrorists yet, especially with nobody claiming any responsibility. Like I posted earlier, they typically want to make a big spectacle over land and not just sink something way out at sea.

Price of such a system, weight issues, space of the chute packs, breathing apparatus (clue, you eject at 35K feet, you are dead in a few seconds from cold, lack of oxygen and injuries from wind blasts going 400 mph or more). Really, unless there was a system to eject the entire enclosed cabin, this isn't remotely practical.

We managed to fly to the moon. Virgin is going to have commercial space flights soon. There was that RedBull guy who jumped from like Jupiter. How can we be so obtuse about this?

The irony is dripping from this one.

 

[Smack Tripper]

I still wonder why planes don't come with safety measures like when things go wrong, roof disconnects and all passengers are ejected buckled to the seats with parachutes that would automatically dispense and at least give people a chance to survive. Have a homing signal on all the chairs...is it really that hard to put all this technology together to avoid these kind of things? I'm not buying terrorists yet, especially with nobody claiming any responsibility. Like I posted earlier, they typically want to make a big spectacle over land and not just sink something way out at sea.

Price of such a system, weight issues, space of the chute packs, breathing apparatus (clue, you eject at 35K feet, you are dead in a few seconds from cold, lack of oxygen and injuries from wind blasts going 400 mph or more). Really, unless there was a system to eject the entire enclosed cabin, this isn't remotely practical.

We managed to fly to the moon. Virgin is going to have commercial space flights soon. There was that RedBull guy who jumped from like Jupiter. How can we be so obtuse about this?

While we're being obtuse, how about a crash-proof car.

They make them but they are too ugly. It would probably alleviate 75 percent of fatalities. A 3 foot rubber bumper surrounding the car would mitigate most side Impacts. But it would need to be standard on all vehicles. Cars could bounce off each other

 

[jon_mx]

And to think he is teaching children.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

We managed to fly to the moon. Virgin is going to have commercial space flights soon. There was that RedBull guy who jumped from like Jupiter. How can we be so obtuse about this?

If you think putting every passenger in a pressurized space suit is plausible, then, yes, it is definitely possible. Enjoy the 12 hour pre-flight suit fitting, the three hour strap in process, and the extra $500k+ in your ticket price.

OK, how about the wings fall off and a gigantic parachute that will allow the plane to safely float down? Keep everything inside safe. I have to assume most of the time it is engine malfunction or some type of engine troubles, just make the cockpit and cabin stay intact and allow the rat of the plane to fall off, float everyone down to safety

We can do this folks, we have the technology.

 

[KCitons]

I still wonder why planes don't come with safety measures like when things go wrong, roof disconnects and all passengers are ejected buckled to the seats with parachutes that would automatically dispense and at least give people a chance to survive. Have a homing signal on all the chairs...is it really that hard to put all this technology together to avoid these kind of things? I'm not buying terrorists yet, especially with nobody claiming any responsibility. Like I posted earlier, they typically want to make a big spectacle over land and not just sink something way out at sea.

Price of such a system, weight issues, space of the chute packs, breathing apparatus (clue, you eject at 35K feet, you are dead in a few seconds from cold, lack of oxygen and injuries from wind blasts going 400 mph or more). Really, unless there was a system to eject the entire enclosed cabin, this isn't remotely practical.

We managed to fly to the moon. Virgin is going to have commercial space flights soon. There was that RedBull guy who jumped from like Jupiter. How can we be so obtuse about this?

While we're being obtuse, how about a crash-proof car.

They make them but they are too ugly. It would probably alleviate 75 percent of fatalities. A 3 foot rubber bumper surrounding the car would mitigate most side Impacts. But it would need to be standard on all vehicles. Cars could bounce off each other

Done

 

[Ministry of Pain]

3 Peat!!!

 

[KCitons]

What would happen to Christo if he is sitting in two seats? Does half his body parachute down in one spot and the other half land elsewhere?

I smell a lawsuit.

 

[Dr. Gobbler]

I bet if you had a button you could push that would eject the wings/engines while at the same time deploying 8 huge parachutes from above the cabin you could save a lot of lives.

I mean, it's not like NASA has done this type of thing before.

 

[KCitons]

I bet if you had a button you could push that would eject the wings/engines while at the same time deploying 8 huge parachutes from above the cabin you could save a lot of lives.

I mean, it's not like NASA has done this type of thing before.

Except when there is a catastrophic failure like Challenger. Then your parachutes are ineffective.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

We managed to fly to the moon. Virgin is going to have commercial space flights soon. There was that RedBull guy who jumped from like Jupiter. How can we be so obtuse about this?

If you think putting every passenger in a pressurized space suit is plausible, then, yes, it is definitely possible. Enjoy the 12 hour pre-flight suit fitting, the three hour strap in process, and the extra $500k+ in your ticket price.

OK, how about the wings fall off and a gigantic parachute that will allow the plane to safely float down? Keep everything inside safe. I have to assume most of the time it is engine malfunction or some type of engine troubles, just make the cockpit and cabin stay intact and allow the rat of the plane to fall off, float everyone down to safety

We can do this folks, we have the technology.

I bet if you had a button you could push that would eject the wings/engines while at the same time deploying 8 huge parachutes from above the cabin you could save a lot of lives.

I mean, it's not like NASA has done this type of thing before.

Did you settle up with Tim yet?

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Yeah, there are industry people saying that it's not the least bit unusual for an international flight to have two stolen passports on it.

Well, this should be fixed...

The two people bought the tickets together. They had separate end destinations.

Not saying this isn't true, but stories like this often have these kind of nuggets of information float around early on, only to have them turn out to be completely untrue. I would take most information -- especially stuff involving stolen passports and the like -- with a grain of salt for the next day or two.

Agreed. But Super Mario is alive in Italy, while his stolen passport is somewhere in the South China Sea.

Mario got another passport to go back to Thailand. He is now in Phuket, enjoying his 15 minutes of fame.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10686159/Malaysia-Airways-plane-Italian-family-relieved-over-sons-missing-passport-mix-up.html

 

[Gandalf the Grey]

Clearly this is Obama's fault.

I wonder if he knows about it? He doesn't seem to know about much.....

SICK BURN !!!!!

 

[jon_mx]

We managed to fly to the moon. Virgin is going to have commercial space flights soon. There was that RedBull guy who jumped from like Jupiter. How can we be so obtuse about this?

If you think putting every passenger in a pressurized space suit is plausible, then, yes, it is definitely possible. Enjoy the 12 hour pre-flight suit fitting, the three hour strap in process, and the extra $500k+ in your ticket price.

OK, how about the wings fall off and a gigantic parachute that will allow the plane to safely float down? Keep everything inside safe. I have to assume most of the time it is engine malfunction or some type of engine troubles, just make the cockpit and cabin stay intact and allow the rat of the plane to fall off, float everyone down to safety

We can do this folks, we have the technology.

Designing the wings so they fall off would probably kill more people than your system could potentially save. One thing that makes air travel so safe is that wings are well engineered to stay on. A parachute system for a large commercial aircraft would probably be about the size of a half-dozen football fields. The plane could probably not carry any passengers once the system is installed.

 

[SacramentoBob]

I still wonder why planes don't come with safety measures like when things go wrong, roof disconnects and all passengers are ejected buckled to the seats with parachutes that would automatically dispense and at least give people a chance to survive. Have a homing signal on all the chairs...is it really that hard to put all this technology together to avoid these kind of things? I'm not buying terrorists yet, especially with nobody claiming any responsibility. Like I posted earlier, they typically want to make a big spectacle over land and not just sink something way out at sea.

Price of such a system, weight issues, space of the chute packs, breathing apparatus (clue, you eject at 35K feet, you are dead in a few seconds from cold, lack of oxygen and injuries from wind blasts going 400 mph or more). Really, unless there was a system to eject the entire enclosed cabin, this isn't remotely practical.

I've seen the saucer section detach on Star Trek, so I don't know what the hold up is to implement technology like that.

 

[KCitons]

Agreed. But Super Mario is alive in Italy, while his stolen passport is somewhere in the South China Sea.

Mario got another passport to go back to Thailand. He is now in Phuket, enjoying his 15 minutes of fame.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10686159/Malaysia-Airways-plane-Italian-family-relieved-over-sons-missing-passport-mix-up.html

I was only off by 12000 miles.

 

[fred_1_15301]

We managed to fly to the moon. Virgin is going to have commercial space flights soon. There was that RedBull guy who jumped from like Jupiter. How can we be so obtuse about this?

If you think putting every passenger in a pressurized space suit is plausible, then, yes, it is definitely possible. Enjoy the 12 hour pre-flight suit fitting, the three hour strap in process, and the extra $500k+ in your ticket price.

OK, how about the wings fall off and a gigantic parachute that will allow the plane to safely float down? Keep everything inside safe. I have to assume most of the time it is engine malfunction or some type of engine troubles, just make the cockpit and cabin stay intact and allow the rat of the plane to fall off, float everyone down to safety

We can do this folks, we have the technology.

Designing the wings so they fall off would probably kill more people than your system could potentially save. One thing that makes air travel so safe is that wings are well engineered to stay on. A parachute system for a large commercial aircraft would probably be about the size of a half-dozen football fields. The plane could probably not carry any passengers once the system is installed.

Problem solved! No passengers = no deaths.

 

[Dr. Gobbler]

We managed to fly to the moon. Virgin is going to have commercial space flights soon. There was that RedBull guy who jumped from like Jupiter. How can we be so obtuse about this?

If you think putting every passenger in a pressurized space suit is plausible, then, yes, it is definitely possible. Enjoy the 12 hour pre-flight suit fitting, the three hour strap in process, and the extra $500k+ in your ticket price.

OK, how about the wings fall off and a gigantic parachute that will allow the plane to safely float down? Keep everything inside safe. I have to assume most of the time it is engine malfunction or some type of engine troubles, just make the cockpit and cabin stay intact and allow the rat of the plane to fall off, float everyone down to safety We can do this folks, we have the technology.

Designing the wings so they fall off would probably kill more people than your system could potentially save. One thing that makes air travel so safe is that wings are well engineered to stay on. A parachute system for a large commercial aircraft would probably be about the size of a half-dozen football fields. The plane could probably not carry any passengers once the system is installed.

Your plucky can-do attitude is what has made America great.

 

[Patriotsfatboy1]

When I fly, I wrap myself in bubble wrap. I also carry full scuba gear in my carry on.

 

[Christo]

What would happen to Christo if he is sitting in two seats? Does half his body parachute down in one spot and the other half land elsewhere?

I smell a lawsuit.

First Class passengers get jet packs.

 

[Ursa M]

Yeah, there are industry people saying that it's not the least bit unusual for an international flight to have two stolen passports on it.

Well, this should be fixed...

The two people bought the tickets together. They had separate end destinations.

Not saying this isn't true, but stories like this often have these kind of nuggets of information float around early on, only to have them turn out to be completely untrue. I would take most information -- especially stuff involving stolen passports and the like -- with a grain of salt for the next day or two.

Wisest post so far. News agencies will blather any speculation just to keep the 24/7 talkathon going. Most of it will be inaccurate.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

When I fly, I wrap myself in bubble wrap. I also carry full scuba gear in my carry on.

That new Hanes bubble wrap briefs line comes in real handy.

 

[KCitons]

What would happen to Christo if he is sitting in two seats? Does half his body parachute down in one spot and the other half land elsewhere?

I smell a lawsuit.

First Class passengers get jet packs.

Don't you know jets are the problem here, not the solution.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

What would happen to Christo if he is sitting in two seats? Does half his body parachute down in one spot and the other half land elsewhere?

I smell a lawsuit.

First Class passengers get jet packs.

Free Wi-Fi to stay abreast on all of the Air Traffic message boards. Do you post BBW flight attendants on them?

 

[Dr. Gobbler]

What would happen to Christo if he is sitting in two seats? Does half his body parachute down in one spot and the other half land elsewhere?

I smell a lawsuit.

First Class passengers get jet packs.

Southwest tells all of the people sitting in the first two rows that the Jumbo Bag of Rold Gold pretzels is a jet pack. The first two rows is for fatties, it's not first class Christo!!!!