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Missouri policemen raid stage 4 pancreatic cancer patient's hospital room for marijuana in viral video (1 Viewer)

Sheriff Bart said:
Missouri policemen raid stage 4 pancreatic cancer patient's hospital room for marijuana in viral video

Police in this country are out of control.  This dirtbag should lose his job. :angry:
Yeah, a bit combative in his snarky responses.  But if it’s illegal to smoke weed in the hospital and the police are called because it’s belived someone is smoking weed in the hospital, what are they supposed to do?  

I guess my take is that they were obligated to be there, but certainly didn’t exhibit any compassion/understanding of this exact situation considering they were dealing with an end of life cancer patient.

 
Drug laws in the country are insane. At this nexus, we see the potential desirability of a group like the Oath Keepers (analogous to, not exactly replicant of) and what certain principles that aren't recognized by an adherence to positive law means. 

Plain English: Sometimes doing your job means telling overweening citizens to eff the eff off. "We're not busting that" would suffice as a response.  

 
But if it’s illegal to smoke weed in the hospital and the police are called because it’s belived someone is smoking weed in the hospital, what are they supposed to do?  
I can see the smoke in the hospital being an issue.  I wonder if he was having a brownie or gummy bear if they would have bothered him.

 
I can see the smoke in the hospital being an issue.  I wonder if he was having a brownie or gummy bear if they would have bothered him.
“I had some capsules that had some THC oil in them. I took them outside in the parking lot,” Sousley, who said he doesn't smoke the drug or use ground-up plants, can be heard telling officers in the video he shared online, which has since racked up more than 500,000 views.

 
I can see the smoke in the hospital being an issue.  I wonder if he was having a brownie or gummy bear if they would have bothered him.
By the sound of it, he didn’t actually smoke anything.  I believe there was a complaint that it smelled like weed.  But I’m sure if the police get a call from a hospital with a complaint of possible marijuana, that they have to respond regardless of how absurd it might be.  They simply didn’t handle this one very well.

 
By the sound of it, he didn’t actually smoke anything.  I believe there was a complaint that it smelled like weed.  But I’m sure if the police get a call from a hospital with a complaint of possible marijuana, that they have to respond regardless of how absurd it might be.  They simply didn’t handle this one very well.
Why would somebody complain if the guy only took a pill in the parking lot? How would anybody have any idea?

The guy smoked or vaped. Nothing else makes sense.

 
He told the doctors.  Doctors told the police would be my guess. 
A security guard first came to his room mentioning the smell. They wouldn't let him come in and search. Then the police were called and they consented to the search when police arrived.

Combine this with the hospital's statement about vaping and smoking being prohibited, his arguing with police about medical marijuana being legal, and I don't think any other conclusion is very logical.

Wouldn't have been very difficult for his family members to leave with anything after the security guard wanted to search the room. 

 
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"I smelled the scent of marijuana" is the oldest cop trick in the book.
I obviously misunderstood on the smoke.   As far as I'm concerned a guy who has a couple months to live should be left alone for just about anything.  Total BS.

And "I smelled marijuana" is right up there with "the dog alerted on your car".

 
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I obviously misunderstood on the smoke.   As far as I'm concerned a guy who has a couple months to live should be left alone for just about anything.  Total BS.

And "I smelled marijuana" is right up there with "the dog alerted on your car".
No you didnt. That is more than likely what happened and why the hospital released the statement about smoking and vaping not being allowed. 

 
Epic Problem said:
So the police are batting .500 when it comes to examples provided in this thread. As a citizen of this fine country, the words ‘not good enough’ come to mind
With that kind of analytical prowess you could easily get a job at CNN.

 
I obviously misunderstood on the smoke.   As far as I'm concerned a guy who has a couple months to live should be left alone for just about anything.  Total BS.

And "I smelled marijuana" is right up there with "the dog alerted on your car".
That #### stinks.  I would prefer the hospital staff just remove it, but maybe they didn’t feel comfortable with that.

Even if it was pills, for liability reasons, I doubt the hospital could knowingly allow illegal drug use.

 
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How does hipaa allow for the hospital to contact police about a patient and drug use? Seems like a violation to me, especially since they did not see usage happening.

And as a smart matter of course, he should be telling his caregivers about his usage, we are always told that we should tell our doctors and nurses about all things like this, so this is one huge slippery slope. 

 
How does hipaa allow for the hospital to contact police about a patient and drug use? Seems like a violation to me, especially since they did not see usage happening.

And as a smart matter of course, he should be telling his caregivers about his usage, we are always told that we should tell our doctors and nurses about all things like this, so this is one huge slippery slope. 
There's a difference between knowing someone uses and actually having it in the hospital. Someone had to see/smell something to report it. It could have been anyone.

 
There's a difference between knowing someone uses and actually having it in the hospital. Someone had to see/smell something to report it. It could have been anyone.
The story specifically says it was hospital security and you better believe that every single person in a hospital has major hippa training. That doesn't stop a random rogue goober from screwing up, but does open up the hospital to major liability.

 
I may have misread, but I thought someone alerted security first and the patient refused allowing them to search so they called the police.

 
I may have misread, but I thought someone alerted security first and the patient refused allowing them to search so they called the police.
That's what I read too.

There is no hipaa issue with calling police on a patient . I think for plenty of things they are actually required to contact police. 

Editing to add: Specific to when at your site and suspicion of breaking the law

 
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How does hipaa allow for the hospital to contact police about a patient and drug use? Seems like a violation to me, especially since they did not see usage happening.

And as a smart matter of course, he should be telling his caregivers about his usage, we are always told that we should tell our doctors and nurses about all things like this, so this is one huge slippery slope. 
This isn't HIPPA at all.  This isn't like like client privilege or something.

 

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