Mitch calls bill to allow easier voting "Power Grab" (1 Viewer)

[jomar]

Curious how you explain all the analysis and data saying the opposite.

I'm sure its just an honest mistake and DaGuru will be in here soon to acknowledge it as such  back in a few days repeating the same nonsense

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Ivan is correct that we would all be better off if less people vote. The way to achieve that, however, is not through restrictive laws, but through a free society and a strong economy. Most people don’t care about politics unless they have to. 

We would be even better off if everyone voted and they all agreed with me.

 

[The Commish]

easier for fraud I'd think .... and we have to preserve the integrity of our voting system right ?

How's it easier?  I asked you what you felt could happen in less than 24 hours time that couldn't have happened with a registration weeks/months prior.  That question still stands.  And yes, we do have to preserve the integrity of our voting system.  I'm trying to understand how you think making illegal same day registration does that.

 

[The Commish]

Ivan is correct that we would all be better off if less people vote. The way to achieve that, however, is not through restrictive laws, but through a free society and a strong economy. Most people don’t care about politics unless they have to. 

IK's position is good for a talking point, but breaks down immediately when "smart" people end up voting against your wishes.  This is why I've always thought the more people that vote, the more of us are represented, the better.  I understand what he's saying and there are times where I wish the soundbyte only bots weren't allowed to vote, but that's not what this country is about.

 

[Stealthycat]

How's it easier?  I asked you what you felt could happen in less than 24 hours time that couldn't have happened with a registration weeks/months prior.  That question still stands.  And yes, we do have to preserve the integrity of our voting system.  I'm trying to understand how you think making illegal same day registration does that.

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then allow it - allow 10 minutes before registering or no ID to register or heck let Canada vote in our elections ..... why even check anybody right ? why even have a system of registration? I mean nobody would try and cheat in an election right ?

I don't see anything wrong with the system we have right now as I understand it and at least in my area. That's my opinion and view and while making it a bit easier I could go with, day of registering? no - figure it out before and get it done or don't vote. Its not that hard

 

[The Commish]

How's it easier?  I asked you what you felt could happen in less than 24 hours time that couldn't have happened with a registration weeks/months prior.  That question still stands.  And yes, we do have to preserve the integrity of our voting system.  I'm trying to understand how you think making illegal same day registration does that.

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then allow it - allow 10 minutes before registering or no ID to register or heck let Canada vote in our elections ..... why even check anybody right ? why even have a system of registration? I mean nobody would try and cheat in an election right ?

I don't see anything wrong with the system we have right now as I understand it and at least in my area. That's my opinion and view and while making it a bit easier I could go with, day of registering? no - figure it out before and get it done or don't vote. Its not that hard

You can sigh all you want.  It's much easier though to simply say you don't want to answer my question.  I'd much rather you simply say that then give me these  non-sequitur responses as if you're saying anything of meaning.  It's fine....this is one of your "I just think that" opinions....say that and be done with it.  At least we know not to engage you at that point  

To be fair, there really wasn't a good answer for the arbitrary cutoff and I knew that.  I wanted to see if you'd realize it, but.......

 

[Stealthycat]

sorry i don't have an earth shattering answer for you Commish .......... registering for voting works well the way we have it

changing it with the chances of compromising elections doesn't seem worth it

that's all I think on it - sorry , told you I'm a simple guy

 

[huthut]

Maybe this is a dumb question, but why do we need to register to vote to begin with?

 

[Mile High]

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then allow it - allow 10 minutes before registering or no ID to register or heck let Canada vote in our elections ..... why even check anybody right ? why even have a system of registration? I mean nobody would try and cheat in an election right ?

I don't see anything wrong with the system we have right now as I understand it and at least in my area. That's my opinion and view and while making it a bit easier I could go with, day of registering? no - figure it out before and get it done or don't vote. Its not that hard

Every state has different rules. People in Colorado can register  and vote on election day. 

 

[parasaurolophus]

Maybe this is a dumb question, but why do we need to register to vote to begin with?

Doesnt matter as much for a presidential, but for a state or local election i would think it matters a great deal to ensure people live where they say they live and then vote there accordingly. 

 

[huthut]

Doesnt matter as much for a presidential, but for a state or local election i would think it matters a great deal to ensure people live where they say they live and then vote there accordingly. 

That makes sense, though it feels like something that could be done automatically.

 

[The Commish]

sorry i don't have an earth shattering answer for you Commish .......... registering for voting works well the way we have it

changing it with the chances of compromising elections doesn't seem worth it

that's all I think on it - sorry , told you I'm a simple guy

The bold isn't true, but let's assume it is.

I just ask for consistency.  If the bold is your standard, then we shouldn't need more border walls.  The "problem" is steadily decreasing year after year and is working the way we have it.  You still haven't explained how changing the date of registration introduces "chances of compromising elections".  This seems to be a "fear" based on absolutely nothing tangible.  I am trying to see if that's the case or not.

 

[Stealthycat]

The bold isn't true, but let's assume it is.

I just ask for consistency.  If the bold is your standard, then we shouldn't need more border walls.  The "problem" is steadily decreasing year after year and is working the way we have it.  You still haven't explained how changing the date of registration introduces "chances of compromising elections".  This seems to be a "fear" based on absolutely nothing tangible.  I am trying to see if that's the case or not.

you've had trouble registering to vote ?

you think possibly illegally voting is the reason we need strong border security? 

I'm not on a committee to reform voting registering etc - you asked my opinion and I gave it .......... sorry its not what you want. Its not fear - you and I agree integrity of our election is important right? That's what wold worry me with last minute registrations. That's all - read into it anything you like. 

 

[The Commish]

you've had trouble registering to vote ?

you think possibly illegally voting is the reason we need strong border security? 

I'm not on a committee to reform voting registering etc - you asked my opinion and I gave it .......... sorry its not what you want. Its not fear - you and I agree integrity of our election is important right? That's what wold worry me with last minute registrations. That's all - read into it anything you like. 

You've told me a billion times you'd be worried.  What you can't seem to do or refuse to do is tell me why it's a worry.  I don't even know what the first two questions have to do with any of this.  To answer those questions though, yes, I have.  It took me two weeks because of legal nonsense to get registered when I moved.  I have no legit data/evidence put before me saying that border security is tied to problems with the voting system, so no I don't see it as a reason for border security.

 

[Van Dyman]

sorry i don't have an earth shattering answer for you Commish .......... registering for voting works well the way we have it

changing it with the chances of compromising elections doesn't seem worth it

that's all I think on it - sorry , told you I'm a simple guy

I'm not sure who the "we" in your post refers to, but it works better in some places than others...

As of January 2019, 17 states plus the District of Columbia offer same day registration (SDR), which allows any qualified resident of the state to go to register to vote and cast a ballot all in that day.