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MJD to be Traded? (1 Viewer)

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Per CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora, some NFL general managers believe Maurice Jones-Drew "could be moved by the trade deadline."
The trade deadline is October 29. Jones-Drew could become more attractive if his production improves, but we still would be shocked if the Jags could get anything more than a very late-round pick. MJD has a ton of wear on his tires, is now 28 1/2 years old, and has appeared heavier and slower than usual this season. He also has a guaranteed, $4.95 million base salary.
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http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3596/maurice-jones-drew

 
He would be a perfect fit for the Giants. Just not sure how much value the Jags would get in return that would make it worth their while.

 
Mr. Know-It-All said:
He would be a perfect fit for the Giants. Just not sure how much value the Jags would get in return that would make it worth their while.
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I believe he is gone after this year anyway, isn't this the last year of his current deal? He wants out of there. So it's either get something, anything, for him now, or get nothing for him after the season ends. They are in a rebuild year. Makes sense.

 
If starting left tackles are getting middle round picks as far as trade value goes, than nobody is going to give more than a 6th or 7th for MJD. Sad but true.

 
IF he has a good game in St. Louis which is very possible it should raise the boat enough to trade him for a late round pick

If not it will be pretty difficult unless a contender has an injury before the deadline without in house replacements

 
Raiders? McFadden's always hurt.

Dolphins? Miller's ok but Thomas isn't that good.

Jets? Add to the RB logjam.

Patriots? See Jets.

Rams? Lots of candidates but none have stepped up.

Browns? See Jets.

 
Older RBs don't generally fetch much in trade anyway.

I think MJD is one of those backs that all teams respect so after La Canfora let the word out, it could be interesting how the other teams react this week.

If I were San Fran, I'd be more confident in MJD than their backups to Gore and Gore lasting all year and into the playoffs is a concern.

Pats are down two RBs.

I don't know about Seattle's backups versus MJD.

Anyone in Jax's division would surely take him as a backup as he earned their respect.

Steelers and Giants seem to have both gone from usual excellence selecting RBs to yuck. They could both use a stop gap. The Giants have already lost some key players to injury and I don't know that they can overcome any more injuries. For example, losing Snee and shifting Diehl inside with the rook at T. They need to do something or their season is done. 0-4 is so early yet 6 or 7 losses is usually the cutoff for making the playoffs. If they lose today, they are done. 10-1 is too much to ask. If they lose today, I don't think the Gmen need MJD anymore, but look toward the future.

I don't much care for Denver's young RBs and history suggests Peyton can't win without a running game in the playoffs.

I think I am too fond of MJD and could make a case that any team could use him.

 
Bri said:
Older RBs don't generally fetch much in trade anyway.

I think MJD is one of those backs that all teams respect so after La Canfora let the word out, it could be interesting how the other teams react this week.

If I were San Fran, I'd be more confident in MJD than their backups to Gore and Gore lasting all year and into the playoffs is a concern.

Pats are down two RBs.

I don't know about Seattle's backups versus MJD.

Anyone in Jax's division would surely take him as a backup as he earned their respect.

Steelers and Giants seem to have both gone from usual excellence selecting RBs to yuck. They could both use a stop gap. The Giants have already lost some key players to injury and I don't know that they can overcome any more injuries. For example, losing Snee and shifting Diehl inside with the rook at T. They need to do something or their season is done. 0-4 is so early yet 6 or 7 losses is usually the cutoff for making the playoffs. If they lose today, they are done. 10-1 is too much to ask. If they lose today, I don't think the Gmen need MJD anymore, but look toward the future.

I don't much care for Denver's young RBs and history suggests Peyton can't win without a running game in the playoffs.

I think I am too fond of MJD and could make a case that any team could use him.
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Seattle's backups are all better than MJD. Turbin and Michael are studs and if Lynch went down I don't see any drop off.

Giants are 0-4 and their season is over. What would MJD offer them now that would be of any value to their season?

Steelers are in the same boat as the Giants. Bell just came back from injury and the rookie is one of their few bright spots going forward.

I just don't see it in the cards for MJD. I am of the mindset that he isn't the same player anymore. Few contenders have the cap space and MJD is clearly past his prime

 
Bri said:
Older RBs don't generally fetch much in trade anyway.

I think MJD is one of those backs that all teams respect so after La Canfora let the word out, it could be interesting how the other teams react this week.

If I were San Fran, I'd be more confident in MJD than their backups to Gore and Gore lasting all year and into the playoffs is a concern.

Pats are down two RBs.

I don't know about Seattle's backups versus MJD.

Anyone in Jax's division would surely take him as a backup as he earned their respect.

Steelers and Giants seem to have both gone from usual excellence selecting RBs to yuck. They could both use a stop gap. The Giants have already lost some key players to injury and I don't know that they can overcome any more injuries. For example, losing Snee and shifting Diehl inside with the rook at T. They need to do something or their season is done. 0-4 is so early yet 6 or 7 losses is usually the cutoff for making the playoffs. If they lose today, they are done. 10-1 is too much to ask. If they lose today, I don't think the Gmen need MJD anymore, but look toward the future.

I don't much care for Denver's young RBs and history suggests Peyton can't win without a running game in the playoffs.

I think I am too fond of MJD and could make a case that any team could use him.
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I respect your opinions Bri but lot to disagree with here:

SF - Hunter is much better at this point than MJD

SEA - has two good young RB behnd Lynch and are not interested

PIT - finally has L. Bell on the field and running well - if that doesn't work or he is re-injured I guess a maybe assuming they actually win a few games

 
MJD doesn't have much left. I don't see anybody giving up more than a very late pick for him. The Jags' opportunity to get something of value for MJD passed last year. His career is winding down.

 
rickyg said:
Mr. Know-It-All said:
He would be a perfect fit for the Giants. Just not sure how much value the Jags would get in return that would make it worth their while.
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I believe he is gone after this year anyway, isn't this the last year of his current deal? He wants out of there. So it's either get something, anything, for him now, or get nothing for him after the season ends. They are in a rebuild year. Makes sense.
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you heard of compensatory picks?

 
Ketamine Dreams said:
MJD doesn't have much left. I don't see anybody giving up more than a very late pick for him. The Jags' opportunity to get something of value for MJD passed last year. His career is winding down.
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Good news is that the Jags seem like they'd be fine with that.

They just gave a way a solid OT for pretty much nothing. If they could get even a 7th round pick for MJD, I assume they'd do it.

The big hold up here would be MJD's salary. Would any team have the cap room and desire to pick up the rest of the $5 mill he's due this year?

 
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The trade deadline is Oct. 29. That allows each team 3 or 4 games to see a starting RB fall to injury. If any contender loses a key piece of their game, they may be willing to give a 4th or 5th to get a solid veteran to fill that hole. I think Jacksonville will be patient until there is a team with a need at RB.

 
Captain Hook said:
Bri said:
Older RBs don't generally fetch much in trade anyway.

I think MJD is one of those backs that all teams respect so after La Canfora let the word out, it could be interesting how the other teams react this week.

If I were San Fran, I'd be more confident in MJD than their backups to Gore and Gore lasting all year and into the playoffs is a concern.

Pats are down two RBs.

I don't know about Seattle's backups versus MJD.

Anyone in Jax's division would surely take him as a backup as he earned their respect.

Steelers and Giants seem to have both gone from usual excellence selecting RBs to yuck. They could both use a stop gap. The Giants have already lost some key players to injury and I don't know that they can overcome any more injuries. For example, losing Snee and shifting Diehl inside with the rook at T. They need to do something or their season is done. 0-4 is so early yet 6 or 7 losses is usually the cutoff for making the playoffs. If they lose today, they are done. 10-1 is too much to ask. If they lose today, I don't think the Gmen need MJD anymore, but look toward the future.

I don't much care for Denver's young RBs and history suggests Peyton can't win without a running game in the playoffs.

I think I am too fond of MJD and could make a case that any team could use him.
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I respect your opinions Bri but lot to disagree with here:

SF - Hunter is much better at this point than MJD

SEA - has two good young RB behnd Lynch and are not interested

PIT - finally has L. Bell on the field and running well - if that doesn't work or he is re-injured I guess a maybe assuming they actually win a few games
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I didn't know re Seattle, you and the poster above seem to like them. It's fine.

I don't like any RBs on Pit except the rook and I think you could probably show with cuts and demotions that the Steelers aren't too thrilled with the others either. I wasn't expecting MJD to start there.

I don't know about Hunter as the starting RB. He is still as impressive as when I saw him at OK St. I love every aspect of his game except when they'd have to pound the rock and the D knows it's coming. I think in the playoffs there's some more of this than the regular season.

But like I said, I love MJD and think any team could use him. I realize it might be disproportionate or partial or whatever the word is there.

 
pollardsvision said:
Ketamine Dreams said:
MJD doesn't have much left. I don't see anybody giving up more than a very late pick for him. The Jags' opportunity to get something of value for MJD passed last year. His career is winding down.
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Good news is that the Jags seem like they'd be fine with that.

They just gave a way a solid OT for pretty much nothing. If they could get even a 7th round pick for MJD, I assume they'd do it.

The big hold up here would be MJD's salary. Would any team have the cap room and desire to pick up the rest of the $5 mill he's due this year?
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FWIW, the salary shouldn't be an issue.

When the Jags traded Monroe, they converted most of his salary to bonus and paid it. BAL is only on the hook for the pro-rated league minimum this year.

I imagine they could do the same for MJD if the picks were right.

 
That said, Caldwell came out and said Jags not in firesale and told MJD he wasn't being moved. Of course, GM's lie all the time, but it would look bad for a young GM to cross a veteran player like that.

 
MJD isn't able to get it done on JAC anymore but on a team who is able to actually keep defenses honest I could see him being pretty valuable (think Benson). I hope he gets moved, he deserves to go out on a winning team.

 
JaxBill said:
That said, Caldwell came out and said Jags not in firesale and told MJD he wasn't being moved. Of course, GM's lie all the time, but it would look bad for a young GM to cross a veteran player like that.
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Unless said veteran player would welcome, if not request it.

 
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As an MJD owner, I hope they trade him sooner rather than later.

I don't think Cleveland is in the mix. All their thinking has been long-term. I don't think a 3-2 start changes that

 
JaxBill said:
That said, Caldwell came out and said Jags not in firesale and told MJD he wasn't being moved. Of course, GM's lie all the time, but it would look bad for a young GM to cross a veteran player like that.
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MJD knows that this is a business; he got a crash course on it last year. I imagine he wouldn't be too opposed either.

 
loose circuits said:
rickyg said:
Mr. Know-It-All said:
He would be a perfect fit for the Giants. Just not sure how much value the Jags would get in return that would make it worth their while.
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I believe he is gone after this year anyway, isn't this the last year of his current deal? He wants out of there. So it's either get something, anything, for him now, or get nothing for him after the season ends. They are in a rebuild year. Makes sense.
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you heard of compensatory picks?
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One of the arguments for the Monroe trade was that in regards to compensatory picks any the player lost is offset by any signings the Jags make and the pick wouldn't occur until 2015. Also compensatory picks cannot be traded.

 
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He's on a one year deal so only a contender so remove the Giants, Steelers(also no need with Bell), Raiders, Rams, Jets, Dolphins.

Has to be a team with a need so that removes more teams than I can list but some I've seen such as SF and SEA don't make a lot of sense.

One team jumps out at me. The Patriots. Ridley ruled as "out" so early make me think it could be a multi-week thing.

Could see teams like Dallas and KC having interest as well but as with MJD as a backup.

 
Mr. Brownstone said:
JaxBill said:
That said, Caldwell came out and said Jags not in firesale and told MJD he wasn't being moved. Of course, GM's lie all the time, but it would look bad for a young GM to cross a veteran player like that.
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MJD knows that this is a business; he got a crash course on it last year. I imagine he wouldn't be too opposed either.
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Yeah, I know. I'm just picturing the Tebowites using Caldwell going back on his word as fuel to rebut the "Even if He's Released" argument.

 
JaxBill said:
Mr. Brownstone said:
JaxBill said:
That said, Caldwell came out and said Jags not in firesale and told MJD he wasn't being moved. Of course, GM's lie all the time, but it would look bad for a young GM to cross a veteran player like that.
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MJD knows that this is a business; he got a crash course on it last year. I imagine he wouldn't be too opposed either.
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Yeah, I know. I'm just picturing the Tebowites using Caldwell going back on his word as fuel to rebut the "Even if He's Released" argument.
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Oh, good point.
 
JaxBill said:
pollardsvision said:
Ketamine Dreams said:
MJD doesn't have much left. I don't see anybody giving up more than a very late pick for him. The Jags' opportunity to get something of value for MJD passed last year. His career is winding down.
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Good news is that the Jags seem like they'd be fine with that.

They just gave a way a solid OT for pretty much nothing. If they could get even a 7th round pick for MJD, I assume they'd do it.

The big hold up here would be MJD's salary. Would any team have the cap room and desire to pick up the rest of the $5 mill he's due this year?
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FWIW, the salary shouldn't be an issue.

When the Jags traded Monroe, they converted most of his salary to bonus and paid it. BAL is only on the hook for the pro-rated league minimum this year.

I imagine they could do the same for MJD if the picks were right.
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:lmao:

Did Ozzie get Caldwell to throw a night with his wife in the deal too?

 
JaxBill said:
pollardsvision said:
Ketamine Dreams said:
MJD doesn't have much left. I don't see anybody giving up more than a very late pick for him. The Jags' opportunity to get something of value for MJD passed last year. His career is winding down.
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Good news is that the Jags seem like they'd be fine with that.

They just gave a way a solid OT for pretty much nothing. If they could get even a 7th round pick for MJD, I assume they'd do it.

The big hold up here would be MJD's salary. Would any team have the cap room and desire to pick up the rest of the $5 mill he's due this year?
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FWIW, the salary shouldn't be an issue.

When the Jags traded Monroe, they converted most of his salary to bonus and paid it. BAL is only on the hook for the pro-rated league minimum this year.

I imagine they could do the same for MJD if the picks were right.
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A team would have to pay what is left of his $5M salary.

 
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I just pulled MJD from my lineup. Don't see this as encouraging news when the team is trying to deal you. Even against the Rams defense, just think he has another meh performance.

 
I wouldn't pull him from a lineup if I had to be starting him this week. His motivation to perform to keep getting paid (next contract) has got to be high.

 
Raiderfan32904 said:
I just pulled MJD from my lineup. Don't see this as encouraging news when the team is trying to deal you. Even against the Rams defense, just think he has another meh performance.
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Rumors made me more sure about starting him (well, sure as you ever get about starting MJD).

Everyone involved (MJD and Jags) is motivated to get him out of there. That goes a little smoother if he has a good week.

 
Jones-Drew looks plodding against Bronco... Published Sun Oct 13 4:18:00 p.m. PT 2013
(Rotoworld)Maurice Jones-Drew rushed 21 times for 71 yards and a touchdown, and caught two passes for three yards in the Jaguars' Week 6 loss to Denver. Analysis: MJD hasn't had many open-field running opportunities this year. He got one against the Broncos, and it was painful to see his lack of burst. CBS' Shannon Sharpe observed that Jones-Drew's explosiveness simply isn't what it used to be, and that is crystal clear. Amid trade rumors, it's hard to imagine any team surrendering more than a seventh-round conditional pick for Jones-Drew's services. He'll be a flex option in Week 7 against San Diego.
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cstu said:
Jones-Drew looks plodding against Bronco... Published Sun Oct 13 4:18:00 p.m. PT 2013
(Rotoworld)Maurice Jones-Drew rushed 21 times for 71 yards and a touchdown, and caught two passes for three yards in the Jaguars' Week 6 loss to Denver.Analysis: MJD hasn't had many open-field running opportunities this year. He got one against the Broncos, and it was painful to see his lack of burst. CBS' Shannon Sharpe observed that Jones-Drew's explosiveness simply isn't what it used to be, and that is crystal clear. Amid trade rumors, it's hard to imagine any team surrendering more than a seventh-round conditional pick for Jones-Drew's services. He'll be a flex option in Week 7 against San Diego.
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So you're relying on a Rotoworld summation of Shannon Sharpe's opinion of a Bronco's opponent?

Yeah. MJD looked slow but he busted a bunch of tackles and seemed to get stronger as the game went on. He did have a 28 yard run.

 
I'll say it again - if the Jags find the right deal, salary won't be an issue.

They'll convert anything over vet minimum to a bonus and pay it. Team trading for him will just pay vet minimum.

It's what they did with Monroe and they have the cash and cap to do it with MJD.

 
JaxBill said:
cstu said:
Jones-Drew looks plodding against Bronco... Published Sun Oct 13 4:18:00 p.m. PT 2013
(Rotoworld)Maurice Jones-Drew rushed 21 times for 71 yards and a touchdown, and caught two passes for three yards in the Jaguars' Week 6 loss to Denver.Analysis: MJD hasn't had many open-field running opportunities this year. He got one against the Broncos, and it was painful to see his lack of burst. CBS' Shannon Sharpe observed that Jones-Drew's explosiveness simply isn't what it used to be, and that is crystal clear. Amid trade rumors, it's hard to imagine any team surrendering more than a seventh-round conditional pick for Jones-Drew's services. He'll be a flex option in Week 7 against San Diego.
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So you're relying on a Rotoworld summation of Shannon Sharpe's opinion of a Bronco's opponent?

Yeah. MJD looked slow but he busted a bunch of tackles and seemed to get stronger as the game went on. He did have a 28 yard run.
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That's also sums up what I've seen as well. A couple weeks ago I called him 'done' and got blasted for it.

While the 28 yard run is nice, it makes the rest of his carries look even worse - 20 for 43.

 
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