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Raging weasel said:
I have to remember to use my own advice more--- should've had some Granderson on DK :wall:
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I have you beat.  Between the 2 sites, I had 6 Toronto stacks.  0 had Granderson. :bag:

He made into one of my LUs as a one-off. 

On FD his ownership was double, so really hurt not having him there. 

 
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needanap said:
Got tired of the multiple line ups so just did the $1 GPP.   Ended up 49th for $10. 

$2 in and $10.  Think I am done with the multiple entries for a while. Too time consuming.
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It really is.   Add to that the frustration of looking at the leaderboards and seeing the dozens of users with the dfsarmy or RG logos on FD and you know you are damn near drawing dead on a night to night basis.   Same on DK, I mentioned cptspaulding at the top damn near daily and I am starting to recognize other names that are consistently there with multiple LUs.  

The last couple days the 25cent entries on FD have sucked, and the only time I have had success is when I throw a WTF $2SE into the mix.  Had one cash for $6 today and one for $15. My one other bigger night was a lot to do with a $2SE as well.  25cent entries were 1 for 12.  

If I am playing $4-6 on a night I really need to put more in the SE stuff or the $1 3max, and maybe $1 at the most in the 25cent gpp.  I have said this before, so it's mostly yet another reminder to myself.  I just get caught up in having fun building a bunch of stuff, but like you said - it's time consuming, and obviously not working too well.  

 
Raging weasel said:
Chicago weather issues scared me off Hendricks and some cheap bats so going with these.

DK .25

Paxton Richard Martin Goldy Fernandez Bregman Story Span Grichuk Swihart

Porcello Kuechel Pina Sano Altuve Bregman Adrianza Benitendi Rosario Grossman

FD $1 SE gpp

Paxton Pujols Villar Shaw Holt Granderson Yelich Williams Carpenter

Good luck all!!
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Cashed both Paxton lineups .38 on DK and $2 on FD.

Played a Sun only PGA gpp and finished 4/594 for $20.

 
If you still have casual status at DK I still say the softest games are the $1-2 3mans. Whether it's classic or pickem I swear I win over 60% in those, going to be really sad when I can't play them anymore.

 
Raging weasel said:
If you still have casual status at DK I still say the softest games are the $1-2 3mans. Whether it's classic or pickem I swear I win over 60% in those, going to be really sad when I can't play them anymore.
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I do like them, but seemed to also see the same people floating around those too.  When I remember to, I like them, but try to take my time and be the 3rd/5th person in if I try a couple to make sure it's not against the same people.  Seems like one guy will start or be the first one in a lot of them.  

 
I thought I remember a strategy article talking about the other small contests being softer too - the 20-100person contests.  But I think it's top 3 paid in 20person and 12 in 100 person contests.  That seems like a worse option since at least gpps pay to the top 20-25%, but for those you need a top 12-15% LU to cash.   I also noticed that the 100person on FD are M.E.  

 
I could be in for a losing day today as I really like this 8 game slate. Already have lineups in 2 $1 gpps , 4 .25ers and a $2 3man. It seems whenever I really like a slate and find it easy to pick SPs with lineups I like I play more $$ than usual and lose it all. At least it looks there won't be any weather issues.

Main SPs are guys who have been doing really well for me lately and have good matchups-Quintana and Guerra and also like Flaherty and Gaviglio today. For bats I like Cle and both sides of the Bos/Balt game. Also using a Seat stack and pieces from Ariz and Stl.

 
Raging weasel said:
I could be in for a losing day today as I really like this 8 game slate. Already have lineups in 2 $1 gpps , 4 .25ers and a $2 3man. It seems whenever I really like a slate and find it easy to pick SPs with lineups I like I play more $$ than usual and lose it all. At least it looks there won't be any weather issues.

Main SPs are guys who have been doing really well for me lately and have good matchups-Quintana and Guerra and also like Flaherty and Gaviglio today. For bats I like Cle and both sides of the Bos/Balt game. Also using a Seat stack and pieces from Ariz and Stl.
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It seems like that happens to me a as well. 

Don't like Carrasco today vs. W.Sox?

I was just looking at the savant page for any BvP.  StL and Balt popped up a bit.  Again, sample size, but Schoop is 5 for 12 with 3HRs vs. Wright.  Mancini is 2 for 5 with 2HRs.   I think the podcast said he's a knuckleballer, so the BvP might matter a little more?     The StL guys that popped up were Pham, Ozuna, Fowler, Molina - but man, Pham is on a cold streak.  Molina not much better.  

I didn't like your Quintana/Guerra call at first, but looking at the BvP, it doesn't look like either team hit the opposing SP very well at all.     

 
I don't mind Carrasco because I'm sure he will at least get the win but think I can get the same amount of points from Quintana for 2.5k less which let's me stack Bos/Balt. Quintana is averaging 28 DK pts vs Mil this year in 2 games. The Cubs offense isn't doing much lately and has a .152 Ave vs Guerra with 20 Ks in 66 at bats. Not using them in the same lineup but expect a low scoring game with lots of Ks. Like Corbin's matchup too especially since Ariz has started to hit but again it's just about the price and gpp ownership.

 
Raging weasel said:
I don't mind Carrasco because I'm sure he will at least get the win but think I can get the same amount of points from Quintana for 2.5k less which let's me stack Bos/Balt. Quintana is averaging 28 DK pts vs Mil this year in 2 games. The Cubs offense isn't doing much lately and has a .152 Ave vs Guerra with 20 Ks in 66 at bats. Not using them in the same lineup but expect a low scoring game with lots of Ks. Like Corbin's matchup too especially since Ariz has started to hit but again it's just about the price and gpp ownership.
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Gotcha.  I hadn't looked at DK pricing yet.  There is only about a 1K difference between Quintana and Carrasco on FD, so that's what I had in mind.  Over there I think Carrasco is the only one that has the 50pts+ upside tonight.  

 
Any interest in Yarbrough?  5.6 on DK, 6.1 on FD.  Looks like besides his game vs. Wash he was doing well, and got 20+pts vs. Toronto last time.

 
I saw that Heaney was 3rd for the SPs for HR/9 on the night, so I quick looked at pitch type - Cruz and Zunino crush what he throws, so I might be looking at those two for a late night hammer. 

 
Tonight I am going to try what I was talking about.  Usually do a few bucks on each site, so I have 3 in the 3max and 4 25cent entries on FD, and 3 in the 3max on DK + the free roll.  

Every time I have tried a Mookie-less Bost LU they have sucked for me, so not sure what I want to do there.  Right now just thinking about focusing mostly on Cleveland, especially on FD.  My holder for the 3 max now is:  Carrasco Zunino Descalso Longoria Lindor Brantley Chisenhall Allen Cruz.   I figured I could pivot off a few spots there - have a LU with Alonso, Try Schoop at 2B, Lamb instead of Longoria, etc.. 

On paper, Boston is the next best to try, but see above.  Other than that, not sure there is a stackable team, so probably just a night for combos from a few teams and mixing/matching.  

 
On nights like this with only a couple stackable teams game theory says to fade those and stack some random game instead. That's what I'm doing with my Seat stack and then filling in with Bos and Angels.

 
Raging weasel said:
On nights like this with only a couple stackable teams game theory says to fade those and stack some random game instead. That's what I'm doing with my Seat stack and then filling in with Bos and Angels.
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 I was thinking about this too, and trying to adjust for size of gpp.  The 3max on FD is "only" 4700 entries.  I am guessing for that staying with Clev/Boston and mixing in a lower owned option or two is good.   The 25cent is huge tonight - 71K entries.   For that I agree fully and was trying to think of another team or two to use and then sprinkle in the other guys.   I think the DK 3max is about 12K entries.  

As for other teams, I guess Balt, SF, Az, StL, Milw were next on the list to look at for me.  Again, maybe not full stack, but at least think of LUs mostly fading Bost/Clev in the huge gpp and mixing in options here?

 
On DK I started with Flaherty/Quintana and did Zunino Alonso Schoop JRam Lindor Brantley Cruz Ozuna     It's the same $ for Carrasco/Yarbrough, so that's a possibility.   Will look to rotate off that for the other LUs, and then to get weird for the free gpp.

 
KarmaPolice said:
Any interest in Yarbrough?  5.6 on DK, 6.1 on FD.  Looks like besides his game vs. Wash he was doing well, and got 20+pts vs. Toronto last time.
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I am using Yarbrough in my free roll on FD.

Currently I have Yarbrough, CLEV/MIL stacks and Kinsler.

 
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Sometimes it gets tweaked later, but right now they have for their most owned SPs:

FD = Carrasco, Flaherty, Bumg, Corbin, Heaney.    The others 5% or less.

DK = same, with Quintana decently owned too. 

Since its a slate we just have a few spots we like, SP is a way to be different.   Use that Clev/Bost stack with a pitcher not in the top 5.  

 
Mookie back = even less interest in Bundy.   Since Quintana and others are projected low % on FD, I will try one of them instead. 

I need to double check, but I think on the savant page, Rickard was one that hit the Boston SP as well. 

 
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Had some Machado and he's sitting so now 80% Lindor.

DK freeroll and .25

Yarbrough Chen Posey Moreland Kinsler Lamb Lindor Trout Upton Benitendi

.25ers

Quintana Guerra Gomes Moreland Descalso Lamb Bogarts Benitendi JDmart Jay

Carrasco Wright Molina Martinez Kinsler Carpenter Munoz Ozuna Upton Brantley

Flaherty Guerra Martin Goldy School Ramirez Lindor Brantley Peralta Jay

$1 gpp

Carrasco Flaherty Gomes Alonso Schoop Carpenter Lindor Brantley Ozuna Fowler

Quintana Goviglio Zunino Goldy Kinsler Seager Segura Trout Upton Cruz

 
KarmaPolice said:
Mookie back = even less interest in Bundy.   Since Quintana and others are projected low % on FD, I will try one of them instead. 

I need to double check, but I think on the savant page, Rickard was one that hit the Boston SP as well. 
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It's Schoop that crushes knuckle balls and is 3/4 with 3 HRs vs Wright

 
Well, interesting to see that Betts is back; was under the impression that he'd be needing some rehab starts. So, reworked one LU to stack him & Benintendi

Like St Louis a lot tonight on FD [only site I use], given the mid-3K pricing for Ozuna, Carpenter & Pham; Also, Martinez under 4K at 3.9. But there could be some rain concerns; nothing much on radar right now, but, I guess the question is, will there be much of anything developing later?

Like Cleveland a lot too, but, way to pricey to be able to do much of a stack, so, gonna have a lot of Lindor, also throwing Brantley in one of the LU's that I'm not using Lindor. Carrasco will be my SP in most of my LU's too. I think I have Guerra in one. Filling in w/ some SF & Arizona. Gonna throw in some Jace Peterson as a low-budget option that may be low-owned ........ hoping so, anyway.

 
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needanap said:
I am using Yarbrough in my free roll on FD.

Currently I have Yarbrough, CLEV/MIL stacks and Kinsler.
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So MIL is out, move more towards STL.  RW is actually not very high on CLEV hitters which seems a bit odd.  Have added in SFG stack, in large part because I am a Giants fan, along with MadBum.

Two line ups are:

M. Bumgarner,J. Martínez, J. Gyorko,  M. Carpenter, Crawford,  Pham,  McCutchen, Hernández,  Goldschmidt

and 

Yarbrough, Posey, Kinsler, Ramirez, Lindor, Pham, Ozuna, Jankowski, Carpenter

good luck all

 
I didn't know what to do with Betts, so stuck mostly with my guns and hammered Cleveland in my $1 entries.  End of the day, I think they have the better O, worse SP to face, and worse bullpen behind the SP.   I have Betts at least in 1 $1 entry on each site just in case.  

Here is one that I have that jams in some top bats I liked:  Yarbrough Hundley E.Gonz JRam Lindor Brantley Betts Cruz Morales

Since I was more on Cleveland in the $1 ones, I focused more on Bost in a couple 25cent entries.  Also for 25cent entries I have one SD stack and one Balt stack. 

 
Going thru lineups to check ownership and saw something weird. In a $1 SE gpp a guy is using Bundy and a 4 man Boston stack. Definitely unique to full stack against your SP.

 
Raging weasel said:
Going thru lineups to check ownership and saw something weird. In a $1 SE gpp a guy is using Bundy and a 4 man Boston stack. Definitely unique to full stack against your SP.
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I don't get this at all, especially on DK when you get dinged for hits.  I get 1, maybe 2 batters vs a hitter maybe hope for a HR against the starter and 1-2 vs bullpen or something.  Full stack vs SP just feels like it limits the ceiling for your lineup a lot.  

 
Ugh.  So much for that low scoring tort/TB game I was hoping on since I tried those SPs quite a bit.  That will limit the night a bit. 

 
Yeah, Gaviglio is killing 2 of my lineups with his negative score. Who would have thought that a combo of Bundy,Chen and Wright would be the top SP pairing.

And there sure are alot of people (5-12%) using this Bauers guy I never heard of.

 
Raging weasel said:
Yeah, Gaviglio is killing 2 of my lineups with his negative score. Who would have thought that a combo of Bundy,Chen and Wright would be the top SP pairing.

And there sure are alot of people (5-12%) using this Bauers guy I never heard of.
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In my 3max FD lineups I had him and Cruz in all 3.  Then of course I talked myself out of that and did some pivots for 2 of them.  :wall:

I had been watching him the last couple days since mentioning him a bit ago, and saw he had slowly been getting some hits.  

 
Only gpp that cashed was Carrasco/Wright with Cards/Angels. It dropped 10 places as Kinsler/Upton only got me 3 more points. Once again my night was saved by a 1 pt win in $2 3man pickem. $5.25 in $6.15 out.

 
Raging weasel said:
Only gpp that cashed was Carrasco/Wright with Cards/Angels. It dropped 10 places as Kinsler/Upton only got me 3 more points. Once again my night was saved by a 1 pt win in $2 3man pickem. $5.25 in $6.15 out.
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When you talk about the 3entry games being soft, are you mostly doing the pick 'ems, or do you think both are that way?

 
For such a big slate the SP options are pretty slim. Only 5 guys I'm considering-- Folty, McCullers, Mikolas, Erod and Gray. I like Gray the best when factoring in price and opponent.

 
I ended up about +25cents on the night between the sites.  One on DK cashed and 2 on FD did, but one that did on FD was the $2 SE for $7 thanks to Cruz so that he saved my night.  

 
KarmaPolice said:
When you talk about the 3entry games being soft, are you mostly doing the pick 'ems, or do you think both are that way?
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I've had success at both formats but mostly play the pickems. When doing classic I use at most 1 stack of 2-3 guys, a chalk SP and fill in best guy for price from there so more a standard cash lineup and you have better odds and higher payout.

 
Raging weasel said:
For such a big slate the SP options are pretty slim. Only 5 guys I'm considering-- Folty, McCullers, Mikolas, Erod and Gray. I like Gray the best when factoring in price and opponent.
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I quick put in placeholders last night, but this was the first time looking at the options, and agree it's sort of rough for being a big slate.   I like Nola, but that's a tough price for him on DK.  I also wrote down Roark as a gpp option since the Yankees do like to swing and miss.  7.0K is a nice price.  I just don't see anything lower than that at first pass.  

For teams at first glance I thought Bost, Cleveland, Milwaukee as top options?

 
KarmaPolice said:
I ended up about +25cents on the night between the sites.  One on DK cashed and 2 on FD did, but one that did on FD was the $2 SE for $7 thanks to Cruz so that he saved my night.  
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My Cruz/Trout lineup in $1 gpp missed cashing by just under 3 points. That also had Upton,Kinsler and that bum Gaviglio.

 
KarmaPolice said:
I quick put in placeholders last night, but this was the first time looking at the options, and agree it's sort of rough for being a big slate.   I like Nola, but that's a tough price for him on DK.  I also wrote down Roark as a gpp option since the Yankees do like to swing and miss.  7.0K is a nice price.  I just don't see anything lower than that at first pass.  

For teams at first glance I thought Bost, Cleveland, Milwaukee as top options?
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I like Roark too but more as an SP2 on DK. 

I'm going back to Cle bats tonight and also like Bos,Stl,SF, Cin lefties and RHBs vs Colon.

 
Just to narrow down ideas quickly, I looked at the RG First look, and wrote down teams that are up against an SP on the slate with a top 12 HR/9 rate,  vs. a bottom 12 bullpen, and on their list of Offenses with top 12 team wOBA on the season:

W.Sox, Bost, Atl, SF

Teams that were on the first 2, but not on the overall team wOBA list:

Cincy, Det, Minn, KC

I was surprised that the Cincy/KC game was one of the games with a 9.5 total on the slate, but both teams are on these lists.  

 
Dug a tad deeper and things that popped out: 

SF-R:  this is exactly what I brought up the other day about what do you favor more - the SP stats, or the hitter stats?  Richards is giving up .353wOBA/.224ISO to RHBs on the season, but if you look at the SF RHBs, none of them seem to be hitting RHPs that well on the season.  

Mia:  Stratton is giving up a ton of hard contact on the year.  Not sure about full stack , but Dietrich/Real/Bour could be looked at for one-offs.  Bour is cheap as usual on DK. 

Tort/TB:  both sides of this game popped again.  Garcia is giving up a ton of hard contact and on the year is .362w/.189I to RHBs, and .358w/.314I to LHBs.  Do we try Bauers on the cheap again?  They were also on the vs. bad bullpen list above.  For the Toronto side, the TB SP is giving up #s to RHBs on the year, and next up is Pruitt according to the podcast, who gives up better #s t o LHBs.  

W.sox:   Plutko's #s to LHBs are .420w/.345I to LHBs for the season.  Clev is also one of the worst bullpens.   the podcast was talking about how Palka's exit velocity is 2nd in the bigs behind Judge on the year.  

LAA-R:  LAA is much better vs. RHPs, and Leake's #s to RHBs for the season are .354/.242  and showed up on the statcast board as giving up a lot of barrels and % of pitches over 95mphs+.    

Cubs/Milw:  Another interesting game.  Looking at the stats, Anderson has been worse than Shields this year, especially to RHBs.  The bad thing is Bryant has been bad too.  He, Zobrist, and Contreras showed up on the statcast BvP though. Again on the negative, the Milwaukee bullpen is no joke, so not sure this is a stack situation.   On the other side, Chatwood has been walking batters at a near 20% clip, so I could see a lot of people on bases and Shaw or somebody getting ahold of one and driving in a bunch.  

Det:  Odorizzi is also giving up a ton of Hard contact and stats, especially to LHBs.   I could see trying a combo of L.Mart/Cast/Cand

Min-L:   Hardy giving up .235ISO to LHBs on the season.  Kepler/Rosario both have good stats vs. LHP on the season, and might be underowned due to the L-L matchup.  

Anyway, those were my ideas I wrote down for the night to look at in addition or instead of the NY/Bost/Wash/LaD/Cinc/KC spots that might be more popular on the night.  

 
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