Mock Draft #2 - 'Cuz I Got Nothin' To Do @ Work (1 Viewer)

[FunkyPlutos]

I think the Vikings HAVE to take an O-lineman in the first two rounds. Bridgewater looked good but he had zero time to throw.

Hodges didn't look bad and I still really like Audie and Mauti as good players, so I see LB a little farther down the list than you do...

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I think the Vikings HAVE to take an O-lineman in the first two rounds. Bridgewater looked good but he had zero time to throw.

Hodges didn't look bad and I still really like Audie and Mauti as good players, so I see LB a little farther down the list than you do...

Both Loadholt and Fusco will be back. It's doubtful that they'll replace Kalil. They could take a guard in the 2nd.

Hodges is okay, but I think that's his ceiling. Cole/Mauti are nice role players. Zimmer likes to attack with his LB's and that's where they'll continue to shore up, IMO.

 

[The Hank]

No love for DGB?

I mean, I realize their is a legitimate chance he is actually dumber than Josh Gordon, but come on if they (NE) take a WR in the first and it isn't DGB I would be shocked.

Guy was kicked off a team and hasn't played in a year. He's a mid rounder at best. More likely he goes undrafted.

There's zero chance he goes undrafted. Second round latest and would not be surprised if he goes in the first.I also don't like Brown for the Steelers. Great player but unless they move to the 4-3 with LeBeau gone, he's not a great fit for their scheme. He's more of a three tech than a two-gap nose IMO. If the Steelers want to replace McClendon at the nose (and I don't think they do) then Shelton is the guy. However, I believe with Worilds likely gone and Harrison likely to retire again, that they'll be looking at OLB hard. If there's no one there they like, I think secondary is where they'd go next despite their general avoidance of first round corners.

This is , especially if Dan McCullers can build upon his surprising, albeit brief, 2014 campaign. On Defense, DE is set with Hayward and Tuitt (though they can probably use an extra body late round), ILB is set with Timmons/Spence/Shazier/Williams.

CB/S/OLB are chief areas of concerns for Steelers going into 2015, which heavy emphasis on CB and S. I know this sounds crazy to the outsider would be OK if we drafted 4+ players for our secondary over the course of the draft. Steelers secondary was THAT BAD. OLB, as EG72 said, will have Harrison and Possibly Worlds leave a massive void (just Jarvis Jones essentially), and will need fresh reinforcements.

Offensively, TE/RB depth are concerns but outside of a day 2 TE selection to groom to replace Heath and/or a late round/UDFA RB to back up Bell, offense is pretty set at QB/WR/OL.

Steelers are also in need of a half-decent Punter on ST as well, but hopefully we can snag a decent one in FA.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Unfortunately for the Steelers, there appears to be a shortage of 1st round talent at the CB position this year.

 

[The Hank]

Unfortunately for the Steelers, there appears to be a shortage of 1st round talent at the CB position this year.

 

[FBAg94]

Seattle isn't going to spend their 1st rd pick on an RB....they'd be better off spending it on the OL, or WR where they don't have a true WR1 albeit the 2015 class doesn't seem to be nearly as strong as the '14 class.

C Michael has shown good productivity and a lot of talent in limited opportunities...and the coaches have talked him up a bunch. Turbin is no slouch himself and has shown he can be productive. They could even do a timeshare between the two....IF Lynch doesn't come back, which if he doesn't, it'll probably be for cap space I would think.

Even if they take another RB for depth, again, I doubt it would be in the 1st round...

As for offensive scheme, at some point, they're going to need to build more around RW but to do that, he needs better receiving weapons...

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Of course it assumes that Lynch won't be back.

But to say you can just plug and play Michael/Turbin for Lynch and the offense will be okay is a stretch of the imagination.

It looks like Gordon is a superior prospect to those two, so they'd stay as the depth.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Of course it assumes that Lynch won't be back.

But to say you can just plug and play Michael/Turbin for Lynch and the offense will be okay is a stretch of the imagination.

It looks like Gordon is a superior prospect to those two, so they'd stay as the depth.

I agree with you. I can see them taking an RB as they value that position highly. Obviously assuming Lynch isn't back.

 

[FBAg94]

You're assuming I said they can just plug and play, just as you seem to assume that Melvin can do what Lynch can do. That offense will evolve b/c that it what will happen regardless over time.

Unless they really think Gordon is Baby Lynch, or at least the type of runner they can ride on, and he's available toward the end of the round, then yes, I agree. But barring all those what ifs, then it's likely they evolve their Offense in a way that maximizes their talent, including Wilson's, which is not the case currently. But yes, you're going to make RW the highest paid QB in the league to take a chance on an unproven RB (in the NFL) straight from college.

I'm not actually saying you're flat out wrong, but I think you are making assumptions and dismissing the talent and dynamics currently on the roster and that the scheme isn't necessarily static. In fact, based on your logic of keeping the RB as the driver of the offense with the same scheme, I'd pay Marshawn to be back in 2015.

 

[massraider]

then it's likely they evolve their Offense in a way that maximizes their talent, including Wilson's, which is not the case currently.

What's that, now?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

You're assuming I said they can just plug and play, just as you seem to assume that Melvin can do what Lynch can do. That offense will evolve b/c that it what will happen regardless over time.

Unless they really think Gordon is Baby Lynch, or at least the type of runner they can ride on, and he's available toward the end of the round, then yes, I agree. But barring all those what ifs, then it's likely they evolve their Offense in a way that maximizes their talent, including Wilson's, which is not the case currently. But yes, you're going to make RW the highest paid QB in the league to take a chance on an unproven RB (in the NFL) straight from college.

I'm not actually saying you're flat out wrong, but I think you are making assumptions and dismissing the talent and dynamics currently on the roster and that the scheme isn't necessarily static. In fact, based on your logic of keeping the RB as the driver of the offense with the same scheme, I'd pay Marshawn to be back in 2015.

And you're assuming that they'll make this a Russel Wilson passing team.

That offense will evolve b/c that it what will happen regardless over time. = Circular reasoning

 

[FBAg94]

I guess my stance is that they will in fact try to center the offense more around RW, and base it on increased passing. Is it now or later? don't know. Either way, don't see the need for them to draft an RB in the first round as of right now, esp. when there are other teams with a higher need at RB, so he may not even be available when Seattle goes on the clock.

So, based on my position, imho you guys are wrong for assuming Seattle will draft Gordon in the first round based on the scheme remaining the same and assuming Gordon can just do what Lynch does.

 

[FUBAR]

Just for fun, here's the rest....

12. Cleveland - Benardrick McKinney - ILB - Mississippi State

13. New Orleans - Owamagbe Odighizuwa - DE - UCLA

14. San Francisco - Dorial Green-Beckham - WR - Oklahoma

15. Miami - Ty Montgomery - WR - Stanford

16. San Diego - Jake Fisher - OT - Oregon

17. Kansas City - Devin Smith - WR - Ohio St

18. Buffalo - Paul Dawson - OLB - TCU

19. Houston - Brett Hundley - QB - UCLA

20. Philadelphia - Alex Carter - CB - Stanford

21. Cincinnati - Danielle Hunter - DE - LSU

22. Detroit - Jay Ajayi - RB - Boise State

23. Arizona - T.J. Yeldon - RB - Alabama

24. Pittsburgh - Cody Prewitt - FS - Ole Miss

25. Carolina - Josh Harper - WR - Fresno State

26. Baltimore - Nelson Agholor - WR - Southern California

27. Indianapolis - Nate Orchard - DE - Utah

28. Dallas - Duke Johnson - RB - Miami

29. Denver - Jeremiah Poutasi - OT - Utah

30. Green Bay - DeForest Buckner - DE - Oregon

31. New England - Ameer Abdullah - RB - Nebraska

32. Seattle - Jordan Phillips - DT - Oklahoma

6 RBs in the 2nd round, 7 in the top 64 picks? Each one might be worth taking there but that's way too many.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I guess my stance is that they will in fact try to center the offense more around RW, and base it on increased passing. Is it now or later? don't know. Either way, don't see the need for them to draft an RB in the first round as of right now, esp. when there are other teams with a higher need at RB, so he may not even be available when Seattle goes on the clock.

So, based on my position, imho you guys are wrong for assuming Seattle will draft Gordon in the first round based on the scheme remaining the same and assuming Gordon can just do what Lynch does.

Their philosophy is defense, run the football, get turnovers, win time of possession, lead in explosive plays. They are not going to turn into a passing team. They have a formula.

 

[FBAg94]

Not saying they're going to become the most pass happy team in the league either, but I suspect they will shift based on the skill sets, but I guess time will tell...

It will be more of a shift to a more balanced attack...but going back to my original point, I just don't believe they'll spend a 1st rounder on RB...regardless of scheme or whether Lynch comes back or not...just my opinion...on that matter we'll know in about 3 1/2 months...

 

[Bri]

I guess my stance is that they will in fact try to center the offense more around RW, and base it on increased passing. Is it now or later? don't know. Either way, don't see the need for them to draft an RB in the first round as of right now, esp. when there are other teams with a higher need at RB, so he may not even be available when Seattle goes on the clock.

So, based on my position, imho you guys are wrong for assuming Seattle will draft Gordon in the first round based on the scheme remaining the same and assuming Gordon can just do what Lynch does.

I know it's not fun, but BPA is sure to ring true here.

I'm not convinced Lynch is gone. There's a whole attitude there that they're used to and despite what he "gives off" I imagine he feels appreciated. It's a good spot for him and I think that's going to come out when he thinks of being a FA.

If he is, I don't think the best pick is a RB to improve the run game. Late 1st might be too early to draft an G or C but adding the top C or G could be seen as improved running game and then they can draft a RB in round two or trade to a spot that seems like a better fit in round 2.

They seem like some classic teams that don't necessarily need top WRs. All those type teams had a gem of a TE. Miller's been out and who knows how he'll be next year. Wilson didn't catch enough balls this year. Is there a college TE that could be studly for them? I don't think it's necessarily about trying to maintain the same level-there's gotta be thoughts of improving and a strong TE could do that here. Even if I'm wrong on TE-Miller and Wilson certainly do have talent, the sentiment of improving is absent from most mock drafts. Their team is deep and talented but there's a way they can improve. I think people need to consider how and slot some picks toward that moreso than replacing players.

 

[FBAg94]

Seattle needs a true WR1 whether it's via FA or the draft...

 

[Grahamburn]

Andy, when is the annual FBG Mock?!

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I guess it's time to fire that up, eh? Let me work on it.