Mock Draft v1.0 (1 Viewer)

[Tenacious D]

Before the Senior Bowl and Combine starts to sort things out...

1 Oakland - JaMarcus Russell QB LSU

2 Detroit - Gaines Adams DE Clemson

3 Cleveland - Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma

4 Tampa Bay - Calvin Johnson WR Georgia Tech

5 Arizona - Joe Thomas OT Wisconsin

6 Washington - Jamaal Anderson DE Arkansas

7 Minnesota - Dwayne Jarrett WR USC

8 Houston - Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame

9 Miami - Alan Branch DT Michigan

10 Atlanta  - LaRon Landry FS LSU

11 San Francisco - Ted Ginn Jr. WR Ohio State

12 Buffalo - Darrelle Revis CB Pittsburgh

13 St. Louis - Amobi Okoye DT Louisville

14 Carolina - Reggie Nelson FS Florida

15 Pittsburgh - Lawrence Timmons LB Florida State

16 Green Bay - Marshawn Lynch RB California

17 Jacksonville - Michael Griffin FS Texas

18 Cincinnati - DeMarcus Tyler DT North Carolina State

19 Tennessee - Sidney Rice WR South Carolina

20 New York Giants - Marcus McCauley CB Fresno State

21 Denver - Quentin Moses DE Georgia

22 Dallas - Levi Brown OT Penn State

23 Kansas City - Dwayne Bowe WR LSU

24 New England (from Seattle) - Jarvis Moss DE Florida

25 New York Jets - Adam Carriker DE Nebraska

26 Philadelphia - Charles Johnson DE Georgia

27 Baltimore - Tony Ugoh OT Arkansas

28 San Diego - Robert Meachem WR Tennessee

29 New Orleans - Patrick Willis LB Mississippi

30 New England - Leon Hall CB Michigan

31 Indianapolis - Paul Posluszny LB Penn State

32 Chicago - Justin Blalock OG Texas

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Nice with Hall dropping to the end of the 1st. Are people really that high on Timmons? Is it the Merriman/Ware fantasy? I would think that Willis would grade out a lot higher and Posluzny close to him.

 

[Bri]

Post your links thread HERE please

 

[Tenacious D]

Nice with Hall dropping to the end of the 1st. Are people really that high on Timmons? Is it the Merriman/Ware fantasy? I would think that Willis would grade out a lot higher and Posluzny close to him.

It was Timmons first year as a full-time starter, b/c he was behind Ernie Simms, so he doesn't have the name recognition and awards the other two do, but he looked every bit the first round talent since the ACC Championship game in 2005 through the Emerald Bowl last month. He regularly plays in the opponents backfield and has shown a big play knack for the ball and end zone.I had Willis higher, but buckled b/c if he is going to be looked as a MLB, he may have to show up with more bulk at the Combine w/o losing any quickness or speed to be a top 10-15 pick. He's definitely a guy I can see going higher. Pos is close to him, I thought Timmons was a better fit in Pitt, more of a pass rusher on the edge, where Porter's play declined last year, while both he and Haggans are free agents next year.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I've checked out quite a few mock drafts.

This is the best one I've seen yet.

I can make a case for every pick you

have in the first round, nice work.

 

[Chaos Commish]

I've checked out quite a few mock drafts.This is the best one I've seen yet.I can make a case for every pick youhave in the first round, nice work.

Moving Gaines Adams into the #2 spot made this too easy. If Adams was THAT good, I would love the start to this mock, but I really don't think he's that good. A year ago I literally begged the supply and demand question regarding OLs because the supply was so deep. This year the suppy is deep at DE. The answer was: A deep supply at OL does diminish their demand. Well, we get the answer at DE this year. Detroit could make this big a blunder. It would be typical. Adams could be that good. I really doubt it. I don't think he's the best DE in this draft. I think the top four are very similar in overall value. Thanks for posting one, TD. About time! You agree with me on Hall, but not Nelson. I'm beginning to see it that way, but I have a Ko Simpson feeling about Nelson still. I'm just getting swamped with quality sources (now you) who like him quite a bit. Not that 14 is that high. It's still early. These things will go through major overhauls post senior bowl, combine, and free agency. I like the Quinn to Houston surprise. Except for the above and Marcus McCauley, I like the rest of it. I'm now immuned to Amobi Okoye.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

I've checked out quite a few mock drafts.

This is the best one I've seen yet.

I can make a case for every pick you

have in the first round, nice work.

Moving Gaines Adams into the #2 spot made this too easy. If Adams was THAT good, I would love the start to this mock, but I really don't think he's that good. A year ago I literally begged the supply and demand question regarding OLs because the supply was so deep. This year the suppy is deep at DE. The answer was: A deep supply at OL does diminish their demand. Well, we get the answer at DE this year. Detroit could make this big a blunder. It would be typical. Adams could be that good. I really doubt it. I don't think he's the best DE in this draft. I think the top four are very similar in overall value. Thanks for posting one, TD. About time! You agree with me on Hall, but not Nelson. I'm beginning to see it that way, but I have a Ko Simpson feeling about Nelson still. I'm just getting swamped with quality sources (now you) who like him quite a bit. Not that 14 is that high. It's still early. These things will go through major overhauls post senior bowl, combine, and free agency.

I like the Quinn to Houston surprise. Except for the above and Marcus McCauley, I like the rest of it. I'm now immuned to Amobi Okoye.

Buffalo homer here and have a couple questions. First off TD, do you think Revis could be the 1st CB to be taken in the draft? And I've been high on Revis and would love to see the Bills select him because I keep hearing the Bills will not keep Clements. And if someone does take Revis before the Bills can get him do you think they might consider another CB there? Choas, can you explain what you mean by this statement? I'm not sure if it's a good thing you're saying about him or not. Thanks guys.

 

[beto]

I agree with Chaos about Gaines Adams. I saw him play a couple of times and didn't come away with that top 5 draft pick feel.

I would like to see the Lions take BPA. Hopefully Joe Thomas will carry a premium grade.

 

[santo71]

Into the Peterson to Cleveland and Quinn to Houston picks.

Not into the Adams @ 2 pick or the Jarrett to Minny pick. I think Minny focuses on a CB or S in the first. Possibly Hall or Revis. Their pass D was atrocious.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Choas, can you explain what you mean by this statement? I'm not sure if it's a good thing you're saying about him or not. Thanks guys.

Sure. Last year in January Ko Simpson was flirting with the top 10 in many mocks. He was almost always in the first round. I questioned it because I had watched him quite a bit. He wasn't a first rounder and many DBs graded much higher than Ko. I was sincerely confused about it. You couldn't find ONE person (other than me) that I know of who would have ranked Whitner above Ko last January. I'm not boasting about getting one right. God knows, I get a lot wrong. But I have watched much more than just Reggie's highlights and I don't think he grades quite as high as most do. Ko fell and fell in the draft. Ko fell further than he should have and ended up being a pretty decent safety. I'm not surprised by that, I just never thought he was first round quality compared to last year's DBs.Now this year Reggie doesn't have quite the draft day competition Ko had, but I protest comparsisons to Huff, Whitner, Reed, etc. Reggie has nice upside. He is a playmaker. But he isn't great in man coverage and he take bad angles in run support. He is good example of a player really benefitting from a great supporting cast. DBs look good with 5 or 6 potential first rounders playing on the front 7.

 

[pantherclub]

Can any gator fans here tell me about Reggie Nelson? more and more mocks have the panthers taking him.

thanks

 

[Jiggyonthehut]

Thanks for posting one, TD. About time! You agree with me on Hall, but not Nelson. I'm beginning to see it that way, but I have a Ko Simpson feeling about Nelson still. I'm just getting swamped with quality sources (now you) who like him quite a bit. Not that 14 is that high. It's still early. These things will go through major overhauls post senior bowl, combine, and free agency.

I like the Quinn to Houston surprise. Except for the above and Marcus McCauley, I like the rest of it. I'm now immuned to Amobi Okoye.

Despite McCauley's poor play this year, I could still see him grade out above Leon Hall. Not saying that I think it will happen but the Senior Bowl will be telling. Leon Hall's draft stock is at a freefall and while McCauley's play hasnt been better, he has more of the physical tools that would allow him to compensate. Besides, McCauley will have a ton of buzz going into the senior bowl- especially at the weigh in. The success of Richard Marshall in the NFL and the fact that McCauley, all things considered, is a better prospect will definately come into consideration.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Nice with Hall dropping to the end of the 1st. Are people really that high on Timmons? Is it the Merriman/Ware fantasy? I would think that Willis would grade out a lot higher and Posluzny close to him.

It was Timmons first year as a full-time starter, b/c he was behind Ernie Simms, so he doesn't have the name recognition and awards the other two do, but he looked every bit the first round talent since the ACC Championship game in 2005 through the Emerald Bowl last month. He regularly plays in the opponents backfield and has shown a big play knack for the ball and end zone.I had Willis higher, but buckled b/c if he is going to be looked as a MLB, he may have to show up with more bulk at the Combine w/o losing any quickness or speed to be a top 10-15 pick. He's definitely a guy I can see going higher. Pos is close to him, I thought Timmons was a better fit in Pitt, more of a pass rusher on the edge, where Porter's play declined last year, while both he and Haggans are free agents next year.

Excellent points, esp about the MLB types in Willis and Pos dropping below an edge rusher like Timmons. I just personally didn't think Timmons looked that great in the Bowl game and in the Miami game, which were the two I really watched him in. I know he got that TD in the Bowl, but I thought it looked like he lacked football instincts. Kind of like he would be a great combine measurement guy, but not a great player. Having said that, I've only been playing IDP and watching defensive players closely for 2 years, so I may have no clue.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Thanks for posting one, TD. About time! You agree with me on Hall, but not Nelson. I'm beginning to see it that way, but I have a Ko Simpson feeling about Nelson still. I'm just getting swamped with quality sources (now you) who like him quite a bit. Not that 14 is that high. It's still early. These things will go through major overhauls post senior bowl, combine, and free agency.

I like the Quinn to Houston surprise. Except for the above and Marcus McCauley, I like the rest of it. I'm now immuned to Amobi Okoye.

Despite McCauley's poor play this year, I could still see him grade out above Leon Hall. Not saying that I think it will happen but the Senior Bowl will be telling. Leon Hall's draft stock is at a freefall and while McCauley's play hasnt been better, he has more of the physical tools that would allow him to compensate. Besides, McCauley will have a ton of buzz going into the senior bowl- especially at the weigh in. The success of Richard Marshall in the NFL and the fact that McCauley, all things considered, is a better prospect will definately come into consideration.

I've protested McCauley enough already. He will be at the Senior Bowl, so this week is interesting, but this kid was unfairly hyped and never really played very good football at Fresno State. The notion he was a better prospect than Marshall is laughable to those of us who watched. It was Marshall shutting down Jarrett and McCauley getting smoked a year ago. They both put in for NFL evals and Marshall declared with a 1st 2nd round grade. McCauley had a day two grade. How can anyone consider him a better prospect. I know you're not the only one, but McCauley is just big and fast. That's it. He has been toast in coverage for years. He has not made many big plays. With Marshall he put up stats because he was always the target, and even then Marshall had more big plays. McCauley was benched for poor play and the defense tightened up and they went on three game winnin streak without him. He openly criticized Fresno coaches and ended up with a bit of an attitude problem. Little known factoid. Marcus McCauley has a 4.0 GPA. Nice. I like the smart ones. I hope he does well. I'm a Bulldog fan, but he was never up to the internet hype. 2nd rounder like Marshall. Sure. This class is pretty weak and he does have nice tools.

 

[One]

I'd like to know what you guys think..

Let's say Russell, Quinn, Leinart, Young and Cutler all come out in the '06 Draft.

In what order do you see these guys ranked?

 

[Hendo]

I'd like to know what you guys think..Let's say Russell, Quinn, Leinart, Young and Cutler all come out in the '06 Draft.In what order do you see these guys ranked?

Russell, Young, Quinn, Lienart, Cutler

 

[King of the Jungle]

I'd like to know what you guys think..Let's say Russell, Quinn, Leinart, Young and Cutler all come out in the '06 Draft.In what order do you see these guys ranked?

Russell, Young, Quinn, Lienart, Cutler

Young, Leinart, Russell, Cutler, Quinn

 

[tex]

There is no way Houston should take a QB in the 1st unless Russell slides that far, and we all know that won't happen. Houston has far too many other problem areas they need to address, and if they don't think Carr can get the job done, then go QB in the 2nd. With their OL, it doesn't matter who their QB is, he'll still not lead them to the promised land. If Marshawn Lynch is there at 8, they would be fools to pass on him. Then they can grab Kevin Kolb or someone of that caliber in the 2nd and let him sit for a year while Carr or Rosenfels continues to get pounded. They passed on a franchise RB last year. They cannot afford to make that mistake again. And Brady Quinn is not a franchise QB.

 

[Tenacious D]

Buffalo homer here and have a couple questions. First off TD, do you think Revis could be the 1st CB to be taken in the draft? And I've been high on Revis and would love to see the Bills select him because I keep hearing the Bills will not keep Clements. And if someone does take Revis before the Bills can get him do you think they might consider another CB there?

Bloom and CC turned me on to taking more of a look at Revis. He hadn't faced a lot of great receivers this year and Pitt was abused by Brohm, Urrutia, and Douglass in their last game. However, after he returned a pick for a TD in his first two games, I think teams were looking away from him. He looks like the most complete corner, physically/measurables, run support, and man coverage, as well as upside as a punt returner. If they lose Clements, I think CB is a strong consideration if it's Revis or not. Clements is going to get paid, and I guess they can give Youboty a try, but I remember McGee being benched once or twice, so I definitely think it is a position they'll put a premium on addressing this off-season.

 

[Tenacious D]

I agree with Chaos about Gaines Adams. I saw him play a couple of times and didn't come away with that top 5 draft pick feel.I would like to see the Lions take BPA. Hopefully Joe Thomas will carry a premium grade.

I don't like projecting trades, so I didn't, but I think ideally the Lions trade down. I definitely think DE is a position they need to address, but this draft is stocked with very good prospects, although I don't disagree perhaps not a top five one. I just think right now Adams is the best prospect at a position they must address early. I don't think they take a QB, and unless Kevin Jones is worse than reported, pass on AD. Millen does not have the time to try to develop a franchise QB for a second time in his miserable tenure.That leaves (if they don't trade down) DE or Joe Thomas. You have your best DE, James Hall, turning 30 and becoming increasingly injury-prone, while not disproving 2004 was a fluke. You other DE, Cory Redding, looks better as a DT, and your pass rush specialist, Kalimba, crapped the bed when he got a chance to be a full-time player. On top of that, you have your DLine-background HC who just signed his son-in-law as DC and a GM under pressure to win now. I think DE rates high on a lot of agendas. I don't see a potential addition of Simeon Rice as precluding drafting a DE high, either. There are questions on both ends and the rookie would have a chance to learn behind one of the best pass rushers of the last ten years.

 

[dparker713]

There is no way, no how that Houston drafts Brady Quinn. Their fans qould kill them.

 

[WampusCat43]

I agree with Chaos about Gaines Adams. I saw him play a couple of times and didn't come away with that top 5 draft pick feel.I would like to see the Lions take BPA. Hopefully Joe Thomas will carry a premium grade.

I watched him play against Kentucky in their bowl game. He ate our tackle (2nd team all-SEC) up in the first quarter, then vanished.

 

[Tenacious D]

I watched him play against Kentucky in their bowl game. He ate our tackle (2nd team all-SEC) up in the first quarter, then vanished.

I watched that game too. The rest of the game UK doubled and chipped him at every chance, as well as bringing some questionable chop blocking, and the refs really let some stuff go. I remember reading one of their coaches and Aichenson being surprisingly brazen about it after the game. Something about the coach telling them "go after his legs, it's where he'll make his money, that will slow him down".

 

[Bob_Magaw]

I watched him play against Kentucky in their bowl game. He ate our tackle (2nd team all-SEC) up in the first quarter, then vanished.

I watched that game too. The rest of the game UK doubled and chipped him at every chance, as well as bringing some questionable chop blocking, and the refs really let some stuff go. I remember reading one of their coaches and Aichenson being surprisingly brazen about it after the game. Something about the coach telling them "go after his legs, it's where he'll make his money, that will slow him down".

why do i get the feeling you have thousands of other intel tidbits like this just beneath the surface, awaiting just a prompting to become uncovered...

 

[Desert_Power]

I agree with Chaos about Gaines Adams. I saw him play a couple of times and didn't come away with that top 5 draft pick feel.I would like to see the Lions take BPA. Hopefully Joe Thomas will carry a premium grade.

I watched him play against Kentucky in their bowl game. He ate our tackle (2nd team all-SEC) up in the first quarter, then vanished.

Admittedly biased here as a SoCar fan. However, having watched very many Clemson games I get the impression that he has an impressive physical set and makes several pretty amazing plays. Also many times he will appear inconsitant and be and non-factor most of the game. I think that he will have a lot of trouble pulling off the types of plays that make him such a high prospect against pro linemen.However, great to see him not in Clemson anymore

 

[WampusCat43]

I watched him play against Kentucky in their bowl game. He ate our tackle (2nd team all-SEC) up in the first quarter, then vanished.

I watched that game too. The rest of the game UK doubled and chipped him at every chance, as well as bringing some questionable chop blocking, and the refs really let some stuff go. I remember reading one of their coaches and Aichenson being surprisingly brazen about it after the game. Something about the coach telling them "go after his legs, it's where he'll make his money, that will slow him down".

You could be right - although that's a bizarre quote - but it worked. And if I'm paying top-5 money for him, I expect him to beat any scheme occasionally. UK was throwing the ball deep with abandon.

 

[chris1969]

1 Oakland - JaMarcus Russell QB LSU- This pick is looking more and more like a lock if the Raiders don't trade it or something bad happens in the combine.

2 Detroit - Gaines Adams DE Clemson- With all the team needs, this one is really doubtful. First of all they would have to admit they blew yet another player evaluation on Kalimba Edwards. Second they would have to pass by 3 offensive players they could use that I rate higher, Thomas, Johnson, and Quinn, and also a D-lineman that I rate higher in Branch. Third they'd be spending Top 2 money on a DE when DE is deep in the draft this year and they could probably get a starter in the second round.

3 Cleveland - Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma I'm a homer and hate this pick. I still think our O-line is more to blame for RD not get a 1000 yards more than RD's lack of speed to the hole. If Thomas is here, we take him and if not we take Branch

4 Tampa Bay - Calvin Johnson WR Georgia Tech If it falls this way, TB gets the best player in the draft.

5 Arizona - Joe Thomas OT Wisconsin, He won't be here, but it'd be a no-brainer if he was.

6 Washington - Jamaal Anderson DE Arkansas, good pick, but I'm thinking Adams falls here

7 Minnesota - Dwayne Jarrett WR USC, They'll take the best WR on the board at this point and that could wind up being Jarrett.

8 Houston - Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame, they can save a little face if he falls this far

I'm gonna stop here because I jumbled things up too much already, but I think this was a really good mock

The Adams pick put a monkey wrench in the works, but overall very good!

 

[Colin Dowling]

I don't see Tenn taking a WR like Rice with so much DE talent still on the board.

 

[Tenacious D]

I don't see Tenn taking a WR like Rice with so much DE talent still on the board.

It was a coin toss between WR and DE for me with them. I went WR b/c I think Bennett is gone, the FA class is unimpressive at WR, and they've tried to get lucky at the position with several lower-tier prospects already for a few years. With the outstanding WR class this year, it's a good time to get a top weapon to get in sync with your young QB ASAP.

 

[Bob Henry]

Nice job, TD. While I tend to agree with Chaos on Adams at #2 to the Lions, I applaud you for not putting Quinn there..

Too bad the Lions blew all those picks on WRs, Calvin Johnson might be the best of them all (save for Roy Williams, possibly), and worthy of the 2nd pick.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

26 Philadelphia - Charles Johnson DE Georgia

I would poop my pants if he was still available at this pick. So would Reid.