**Monday Night Football - Giants at Patriots**(-7.5, 46.5) 8:15 (6 Viewers)

[fatness]

Hunter Henry wants that TD back.

 

[The Frankman]

I remember a time when a man would be mocked and ridiculed for wearing such a pretty necklace...

good thing we live in more progressive times.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

PLAYOFF HOPES STILL ALIIIIIIVE!!!!

I can’t believe it!

 

[Boston]

Good win...nice way to go into the bye week...no doubt everyone predicted the Pats to be 11-2 at this point.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

I would think that if you are winning comfortably like NE is then you don't put wear and tear and risk injury on your stud RB.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I would think that if you are winning comfortably like NE is then you don't put wear and tear and risk injury on your stud RB.

That’s why they used Hendo more than RS at the end.

 

[Jppaul]

@Chaka

i mean, yeah, I watched Dart's hit five times. This is the best angle I could find on my computer. It looks like Elliss has a lowered shoulder and he’s going through the shoulder of Dart and then hits Dart's head, which wouldn’t be a penalty and people would be right, but both in real time and from another angle nobody uploaded yet but likely will, Elliss leads with his head and makes first contact.

This is an angle and freeze frame where their helmets are touching (awww helmets), but one can accept a counter argument that it was his shoulder first and then his head. But I saw red at the original speed and then at a different angle. Detective Gumshoe on the case to find the other one.

https://imgur.com/a/Cm78Xhf

Yeah that view looks like it may be touching, it doesn't show them actually touching. It's the proverbial Hollywood Angle we can't see the separation (if there is any).

@Jppaul posted a link (I reposted to you) the angle down the sidelines shows the separation of their helmets at the point of contact.

Link. (44 second mark)

I guess it isn't 100% definitive but that looks like a very clean hit

New photo · Monday, Dec 1 📸

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[Bossman]

@Chaka

i mean, yeah, I watched Dart's hit five times. This is the best angle I could find on my computer. It looks like Elliss has a lowered shoulder and he’s going through the shoulder of Dart and then hits Dart's head, which wouldn’t be a penalty and people would be right, but both in real time and from another angle nobody uploaded yet but likely will, Elliss leads with his head and makes first contact.

This is an angle and freeze frame where their helmets are touching (awww helmets), but one can accept a counter argument that it was his shoulder first and then his head. But I saw red at the original speed and then at a different angle. Detective Gumshoe on the case to find the other one.

https://imgur.com/a/Cm78Xhf

Yeah that view looks like it may be touching, it doesn't show them actually touching. It's the proverbial Hollywood Angle we can't see the separation (if there is any).

@Jppaul posted a link (I reposted to you) the angle down the sidelines shows the separation of their helmets at the point of contact.

Link. (44 second mark)

I guess it isn't 100% definitive but that looks like a very clean hit

New photo · Monday, Dec 1 📸

Tap to view!

photos.app.goo.gl

as we learned from the punt return helmet to helmet concussion fumble... apparently it doesn't matter if he is considered a runner.

 

[Dez]

Well 2 out of 3 aint bad. Diggs stunk I made the playoffs in the NFFC.
Henderson +4.2 vs Dart I won by 0,85 and made the RTS playoffs as the 4th and final seed (had Dart completed that last pass I am out of playoffs)
Got stomped in my other one

Of course it all can't be roses I needed 1 more receiving yard from Henderson to win in a tie in my local league instead I lose by 1 (1 freaking yard you get 1 pt ever 20 yards rec) and my 7 game winning streak broken and a 1st round bye would been locked up instead I have to win next week to get it or I am a WC team.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

I would think that if you are winning comfortably like NE is then you don't put wear and tear and risk injury on your stud RB.

That’s why they used Hendo more than RS at the end.

Didn't watch the game and haven't checked out my FF scores yet. I'm binge watching Rome. I was reacting too

No dog in this fight, but why does Henderson not get the lions share of touches for NE

Keeps him fresh? RS is solid?

which I had thought was Chad lambasting that they didn't use Hendo much in the 4th but I guess he was just talking about it in general. I think both our answers apply and we are on the same page. I also would not be totally surprised if coaches want to give a back X amount of work or else they'll be unhappy and want a trade/be less likely to resign.

 

[efactor]

Well, for Stevenson, it was a good game technically. 3.3 ypc tonight which is slightly above his average for the season, so yeah, he will remain “the man” if he continues with these type of stellar performances

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I would think that if you are winning comfortably like NE is then you don't put wear and tear and risk injury on your stud RB.

That’s why they used Hendo more than RS at the end.

Didn't watch the game and haven't checked out my FF scores yet. I'm binge watching Rome. I was reacting too

No dog in this fight, but why does Henderson not get the lions share of touches for NE

Keeps him fresh? RS is solid?

which I had thought was Chad lambasting that they didn't use Hendo much in the 4th but I guess he was just talking about it in general. I think both our answers apply and we are on the same page. I also would not be totally surprised if coaches want to give a back X amount of work or else they'll be unhappy and want a trade/be less likely to resign.

I just legitimately believe they’re a better offense with 2 good running backs. RS is a luxury to keep Hendo with fresh legs.

Long season, long playoffs - come bad weather, a team with thunder & lightning tandem has a big advantage. And both backs can go inside, outside, and both are fluid receivers.

As a RS shareholder I wish it were otherwise, but the patriots are better when both backs are playing well.

Note: no fumbling for some time now.

 

[rockaction]

@Chaka

i mean, yeah, I watched Dart's hit five times. This is the best angle I could find on my computer. It looks like Elliss has a lowered shoulder and he’s going through the shoulder of Dart and then hits Dart's head, which wouldn’t be a penalty and people would be right, but both in real time and from another angle nobody uploaded yet but likely will, Elliss leads with his head and makes first contact.

This is an angle and freeze frame where their helmets are touching (awww helmets), but one can accept a counter argument that it was his shoulder first and then his head. But I saw red at the original speed and then at a different angle. Detective Gumshoe on the case to find the other one.

https://imgur.com/a/Cm78Xhf

Yeah that view looks like it may be touching, it doesn't show them actually touching. It's the proverbial Hollywood Angle we can't see the separation (if there is any).

@Jppaul posted a link (I reposted to you) the angle down the sidelines shows the separation of their helmets at the point of contact.

Link. (44 second mark)

I guess it isn't 100% definitive but that looks like a very clean hit

New photo · Monday, Dec 1 📸

Tap to view!

photos.app.goo.gl

Thanks. I can’t get to it on your Drive but I managed to blow it up on my phone. That looks definitely after impact almost like he’s behind him which would lead you to believe he couldn’t have possibly, but even .3 of a second with these guys and you’ve missed it. Anyway, I guess I could be wrong. I don’t know. I keep watching in real time and I’m not generally v fooled by the head whip so maybe here I am? I don’t think so, but I’ve def. been wrong before

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Well, for Stevenson, it was a good game technically. 3.3 ypc tonight which is slightly above his average for the season, so yeah, he will remain “the man” if he continues with these type of stellar performances

That never tells the whole story. He churned out some big gains when it mattered. He had a couple runs that had none chance either because the OL didn’t block well or the defense was keying in on the run.

To start the game he had runs of
4, 8, 7, 9, 4, 4.

At this point it was Pats 24-7, and NEP was in clock drain mode. The game felt over. RS had a few negative runs -5, -1, 0, etc.

Not all touches are created equal. When the game was still a game, RS averaged 6 YPC. The rest of the way hardly seems fair to judge him by.

Opinions on this may differ. Statistically speaking, yes - he had 3.3 YPC. Yuck, stinky poo. But he absolutely contributed to the win in the 1st half as a runner and a receiver. Had a rushing and receiving 1st down as well.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Anyway, I guess I could be wrong

Gasp!

 

[rockaction]

@Chaka

i mean, yeah, I watched Dart's hit five times. This is the best angle I could find on my computer. It looks like Elliss has a lowered shoulder and he’s going through the shoulder of Dart and then hits Dart's head, which wouldn’t be a penalty and people would be right, but both in real time and from another angle nobody uploaded yet but likely will, Elliss leads with his head and makes first contact.

This is an angle and freeze frame where their helmets are touching (awww helmets), but one can accept a counter argument that it was his shoulder first and then his head. But I saw red at the original speed and then at a different angle. Detective Gumshoe on the case to find the other one.

https://imgur.com/a/Cm78Xhf

Yeah that view looks like it may be touching, it doesn't show them actually touching. It's the proverbial Hollywood Angle we can't see the separation (if there is any).

@Jppaul posted a link (I reposted to you) the angle down the sidelines shows the separation of their helmets at the point of contact.

Link. (44 second mark)

I guess it isn't 100% definitive but that looks like a very clean hit

New photo · Monday, Dec 1 📸

Tap to view!

photos.app.goo.gl

Jaxson Dart Hit Sparks Patriots-Giants Clash Over Patrick Mahomes Debate

During a recent Monday Night Football game, Jaxson Dart, the New York Giants quarterback, faced a significant hit that ignited a scuffle between the Giants and New England Patriots. This incident raises crucial questions about player protection and perceptions of quarterback hits in the NFL...

www.el-balad.com

His helmet is lowered and he's not hitting a shoulder. I see you're laughing. Man, why do you think sports photographers have shutters that go every .2 of a second or whatever?

 

[rockaction]

Ladies and gentlemen, I wouldn't be expecting any fine on Christian Elliss for his second lowering the helmet hit of the night.

Hey Roger, maybe you can destroy these videotapes also. Or when somebody posts another Eagles false start you can send more takedown notices.

New England Patriots linebacker Christian Elliss lays down a monstrous hit to knock the ball free for a Pats recovery

 

[rockaction]

This looks nothing like the still photos that look like a push in the back.

I have to ask people if they even played high school or collegiate athletics before they show me still life clips like that person did because it's not much use arguing with people who don't understand these bodies are moving at a rate you can barely comprehend and you kind of have to get at and through impact. Watch Elliss airborne in this video. Dude's throwing himself like he's a human clothesline. He winds up like two or three yards out of bounds. Look at the Giants' bench. They're not going to cry in the media about because they want the whiners and excuses gone but they have #53 tucked away for sure.

TikTok - Make Your Day

 

[Chaka]

@Chaka

i mean, yeah, I watched Dart's hit five times. This is the best angle I could find on my computer. It looks like Elliss has a lowered shoulder and he’s going through the shoulder of Dart and then hits Dart's head, which wouldn’t be a penalty and people would be right, but both in real time and from another angle nobody uploaded yet but likely will, Elliss leads with his head and makes first contact.

This is an angle and freeze frame where their helmets are touching (awww helmets), but one can accept a counter argument that it was his shoulder first and then his head. But I saw red at the original speed and then at a different angle. Detective Gumshoe on the case to find the other one.

https://imgur.com/a/Cm78Xhf

Yeah that view looks like it may be touching, it doesn't show them actually touching. It's the proverbial Hollywood Angle we can't see the separation (if there is any).

@Jppaul posted a link (I reposted to you) the angle down the sidelines shows the separation of their helmets at the point of contact.

Link. (44 second mark)

I guess it isn't 100% definitive but that looks like a very clean hit

New photo · Monday, Dec 1 📸

Tap to view!

photos.app.goo.gl

Jaxson Dart Hit Sparks Patriots-Giants Clash Over Patrick Mahomes Debate

During a recent Monday Night Football game, Jaxson Dart, the New York Giants quarterback, faced a significant hit that ignited a scuffle between the Giants and New England Patriots. This incident raises crucial questions about player protection and perceptions of quarterback hits in the NFL...

www.el-balad.com

His helmet is lowered and he's not hitting a shoulder. I see you're laughing. Man, why do you think sports photographers have shutters that go every .2 of a second or whatever?

I don't get it, man. You keep going to lateral views. You can't tell anything from that. Their heads could easily be three feet apart in that shot. They could also be touching. The point is there is no way to know from that angle. It's a parallax effect. Hollywood exploits that all the time.

Did you watch the video down the sidelines? It's a pretty darn clear angle and, in real time it doesn't look like there is anything but shoulder to shoulder contact.

 

[rockaction]

Yeah, this guy wasn't lowering his head last night.

Giants Returner Literally Had the Paint Knocked Off His Helmet in Brutal Collision

Giants returner Gunner Olszewski took such a massive hit against the Patriots the paint on his helmet flew off.

www.si.com

 

[rockaction]

@Chaka

i mean, yeah, I watched Dart's hit five times. This is the best angle I could find on my computer. It looks like Elliss has a lowered shoulder and he’s going through the shoulder of Dart and then hits Dart's head, which wouldn’t be a penalty and people would be right, but both in real time and from another angle nobody uploaded yet but likely will, Elliss leads with his head and makes first contact.

This is an angle and freeze frame where their helmets are touching (awww helmets), but one can accept a counter argument that it was his shoulder first and then his head. But I saw red at the original speed and then at a different angle. Detective Gumshoe on the case to find the other one.

https://imgur.com/a/Cm78Xhf

Yeah that view looks like it may be touching, it doesn't show them actually touching. It's the proverbial Hollywood Angle we can't see the separation (if there is any).

@Jppaul posted a link (I reposted to you) the angle down the sidelines shows the separation of their helmets at the point of contact.

Link. (44 second mark)

I guess it isn't 100% definitive but that looks like a very clean hit

New photo · Monday, Dec 1 📸

Tap to view!

photos.app.goo.gl

Jaxson Dart Hit Sparks Patriots-Giants Clash Over Patrick Mahomes Debate

During a recent Monday Night Football game, Jaxson Dart, the New York Giants quarterback, faced a significant hit that ignited a scuffle between the Giants and New England Patriots. This incident raises crucial questions about player protection and perceptions of quarterback hits in the NFL...

www.el-balad.com

His helmet is lowered and he's not hitting a shoulder. I see you're laughing. Man, why do you think sports photographers have shutters that go every .2 of a second or whatever?

I don't get it, man. You keep going to lateral views. You can't tell anything from that. Their heads could easily be three feet apart in that shot. They could also be touching. The point is there is no way to know from that angle. It's a parallax effect. Hollywood exploits that all the time.

Did you watch the video down the sidelines? It's a pretty darn clear angle and, in real time it doesn't look like there is anything but shoulder to shoulder contact.

What view would you like to go to? I'll keep trying to find one. The Tik Tok one is from the end zone. It's not a lateral view.

I'm not showing you two persepctives or different speeds in the foreground at all. i hope you don't care that I'm later at night and just correcting your understanding of the term. I mean, I'll once again take the position of epistemic humility and say I could be wrong about this term, but that doesn't sound the correct usage, even though it isn't tremendously important you know the right name for what you're saying are the illusions that the two pictures I posted give. I'll fully admit to wanting a better view that the still lifes I gave. I'm unable to freeze the video on my television which is plenty big enough but the remote isn't pausing at impact and the other remote isn't working.

As far as the effect, I looked to see if I was doing anything or susceptible to illusion myself because I don't fully know, but after hunting around for like ten minutes, reading definitions and and consulting about three sources, the parallax effect doesn't mean or name any vantage point that I've given (it usually means, I gather, that when two people are looking at something from different angles that they perceive two differing senses of direction regarding the object. in Hollywood, it apparently is to slow down a foreground object and alter the background in some way to give an illusion of a different rate of motion of the object you're looking at, and the effect is usually deliberately done to manipulate. If I'm wrong I apologize in advance.

parallax​

noun​

par·al·lax ˈper-ə-ˌlaks
ˈpa-rə-

: the apparent displacement or the difference in apparent direction of an object as seen from two different points not on a straight line with the object
especially : the angular difference in direction of a celestial body as measured from two points on the earth's orbit

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[The Frankman]

Word is Abdul Carter got benched for the beginning of the game for watching porn without his headphones connected during a defensive meeting.

Wait, you’re serious?

Yes

btw I think I should mention you guys got Centel'd

totally fake account

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Word is Abdul Carter got benched for the beginning of the game for watching porn without his headphones connected during a defensive meeting.

Wait, you’re serious?

Yes

btw I think I should mention you guys got Centel'd

totally fake account

I’m not on X, so it’s just “you guy”.