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Monday Night Football Has Lost It's Luster. (1 Viewer)

Tong Po

Tong Po

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There just seems to be something missing since MNF football moves to ESPN. I don't know if it's the lame play by play crew, the graphics they use, or something else. But the whole broadcast just seems flat the first 2 weeks. It lacks the excitement of when it was on ABC.

The best thing MNF has going for it is when Cornhiser repeatedly calls out Theisman for making an assenine comment.

 
Tong Po said:
There just seems to be something missing since MNF football moves to ESPN. I don't know if it's the lame play by play crew, the graphics they use, or something else. But the whole broadcast just seems flat the first 2 weeks. It lacks the excitement of when it was on ABC.The best thing MNF has going for it is when Cornhiser repeatedly calls out Theisman for making an assenine comment
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i agree...i just dont get as excited as in past years..maybe it will just take timeand watching sunday night games on NBC for some reason feels like I am watching an XFL game..wasnt that the network they were on and the last football NBC had?
 
I don't have cable so I won't be watching MNF anymore. At the same time, I haven't watched SNF in years so suddenly I have that again!

 
I usually like kornheiser but I thought he was going out of his way this week to show up Theismann. He was starting to sound like a ahole. He has to take it down a notch becuase some of his rebuttals were not that great.

 
Kornholio & the 2 Buttheads simply suck. If you really feel that way too, email ESPN & tell them you won't be watching it anymore. Convince your friends to not watch it.

Actually, if all FBGs and their friends didn't watch this Monday night game, the ratings would drop!

 
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None_More_Black said:
I usually like kornheiser but I thought he was going out of his way this week to show up Theismann. He was starting to sound like a ahole. He has to take it down a notch becuase some of his rebuttals were not that great.
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Yeah... he really seems to be trying to stick it to Theisman. Not sure what's going on there. But it's really the only entertaining thing about them as a group. I mean at least Madden will make you chuckle once in a while. These dudes have no personality whatsoever.
 
Sorry, I love Kornheiser. Now Theisman is terrible but I will still watch every Monday just for Tony K. Tirico is solid as well.

:popcorn:

 
ESPN MNF Commentary has gone to pot. And why did they spen 15 minutes interviewing a basketball player in the booth?

If I'd wanted basketball stuff, I wouldn' be watching MNF. Jeesh!

 
Losing its luster was sort of intentional. SNF is now the premier night game, according to the NFL and the price NBC paid.

 
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Are you guys really not going to watch your team play on Monday night because the ####### broadcast has changed?

Call me crazy, but I'm thinking you'll watch.

 
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harvnlenny said:
Sorry, I love Kornheiser. Now Theisman is terrible but I will still watch every Monday just for Tony K. Tirico is solid as well. :popcorn:
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What is there to possibly love about the guy? Bottom line he's an idiot! :bag:
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He's actually quite smart. Thiesman's the idiot, and I have to agree with a few others--I get a kick out of Tony's constant jibes at him.I miss Madden. :bag: Which is why, as others have said, Sunday night and Monday night football have simply swapped nights.
 
I still love Monday Night Football. It's nice to have a game to look forward to after Sunday.

I agree the announcers suck though. Is it that hard to find decent announcers? I mean, does anyone like these guys? I don't think I've ever known anyone that has liked Theisman and Kornheiser is mediocre at best. They pick up Vermeil and first time he rocks. There has to be other guys like that out there.

 
OH my MNF sucks right now.. Kornholio is awful JOE T is hte worst Announcer in Football. Not sure how long this will last. NBC did the right thing they got the 2 best and left the rest behind. I turn off the Sounds and listen to the radio... Sad to see the talent fall that far

 
Is there any sites online to listen to the game online? The ESPN crew I can't even tolerate anymore. Last week I muted the whole game, expect for the final 5 minutes or so.

 
I agree with you...it's just not the same.

I was born the year MNF started and I feel like I have it running through my veins. Ever since I was 6 yrs old and living on the east coast where the games started late I've been staying up late watching MNF - my favorite night of the week in my favorite season of the year. If you look at the history below, what you'll quickly notice is that MNF was for a long time the voices of Howard Cossell, Frank Gifford, and Al Michaels. These have been the voices of American Sports for the last 30 years! I remember as a kid telling my parents 'good-night,' going into my room and turning on this small black and white TV which I put under my covers so the parents wouldn't know while I watched the game and waited for the halftime show. I loved the halftime show since at that time (the late 70's) they had by far the best highlights and it was great listening to the guys talk about the game - and that voice of Howard Cossell's that I used to love to practice and imitate for my friends at school. To me, it was cool the way ABC's Wide World of Sports was cool in the 70's - a really big deal. As I got older it was something that my dad and I always watched together and even if we weren't really getting along everything was forgotten during MNF.

So, with this change over to ESPN with these B-team guys this is NOT the same. I don't really care if I shut off the game early although I wasn't going anywhere the other night when the game was close. However, when there's one of those blow outs I'll be down and asleep since I couldn't care less what these guys are babbling about. It's not like I don't like them, but there is no tradition. This "ain't your daddy's Monday Night Football."

Order of MNF booth crews since the beginning of MNF:

1.2 1970s

1.2.1 Jackson, Cosell and Meredith

1.2.2 Cosell, Gifford and Meredith

1.2.3 Cosell, Gifford, Williamson and Karras

1.2.4 Cosell, Gifford, Meredith and Tarkenton

1.3 1980s

1.3.1 Cosell, Gifford, Meredith and Simpson

1.3.2 Gifford, Meredith and Simpson

1.3.3 Gifford, Simpson and Namath

1.3.4 Gifford, Michaels and Swann

1.3.5 Gifford, Michaels and Dierdorf

1.4 1990s

1.4.1 Michaels, Dierdorf and Esiason

1.4.2 Michaels and Esiason

1.5 2000s

1.5.1 Michaels, Fouts and Miller

1.5.2 Michaels and Madden

1.5.2.1 The End of the ABC Era

1.5.3 Move to ESPN

1.5.3.1 Tirico, Theismann and Kornheiser

 
Mr. Brownstone said:
Are you guys really not going to watch your team play on Monday night because the ####### broadcast has changed? Call me crazy, but I'm thinking you'll watch.
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DVR it and watch it on a 10 second delay, or 5min...whatever. As long as you don't watch it live, it affects their ratings.
 
BaBastage said:
ESPN MNF Commentary has gone to pot. And why did they spen 15 minutes interviewing a basketball player in the booth?If I'd wanted basketball stuff, I wouldn' be watching MNF. Jeesh!
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Where have you been? For decades when MNF was on ABC, all sorts of actresses, pop stars, etc., would just "happen by" the broadcast booth.I love Kornheiser, but the MNF broadcast team is a trainwreck. Yes, Theismann is a pompous ###, but for he and TK to subtly go at each other during a game distracts from the action rather than enhancing it. No way this team lasts more than one season together.
 
I'm tired of the promos for MNF. 4 days until MNF? How about 3 days until bunches of big games on Sunday, pal? Ridiculous.

 
Capella said:
Losing its luster was sort of intentional. SNF is now the premier night game, according to the NFL and the price NBC paid.
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Actually, ESPN is paying more for MNF....$1.1 B / year as compared to $600 M / year for NBC.But SNF seems like the premier game to me...especially considering they can change games later in the season.Overall, the NFL earns $3.7 BILLION A YEAR in TV revenues! :eek:
 
OK, let's be honest. MNF started losing its luster years ago. It is not a novelty item anymore. Unless the matchup is great we are not going to flock to our TVs to watch it. If our team isn't playing in it we might have a good excuse not to watch it.

I haven't really watched it yet this year. I saw a little on week two but the JAX / PIT game was a little weak unless you like no scoring. There were some great hits though.

I am not a John (Fat Tub of Goo who states the obvious) Madden fan. So I don't miss his big mouth. I know I will get you man lovers rebutting me on your FTG Madden now. Sorry in advance.

I think MNF needs a shot in the arm. What that is I don't know. Maybe that is what we should be discussing.

 
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EbTide73 said:
OK, let's be honest. MNF started losing its luster years ago.
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I agree here. It hasn't been a must watch in about 10 years unless the 'Skins are playing or it determines my fantasy game that week. When the wife wants to watch CSI or something else I will flip to the game during commercials to catch up on the score.
 
I really only have 3 problems with MNF:

1) I don't like the annnoucers. Give me the crew that did the Oakland-San Diego game

2) I can't stand sideline reporters. Having two of them is almost unbearable.

3) MNF should be on network television.

 
It's cause you can watch football 24/7 now. Used to be a couple of college games on Saturday, the local football team on Sunday, and then Monday night football. It was the one chance to see other pro teams.

Now you can watch college FB on Thursday-Saturday and 4 pro games on Sunday (1 PM, 1, 4, 8). More if you have the NFL game package. Plus rewatch the NFL games on the NFL network all week.

By the time MNF comes around, you are totally saturated and would rather watch the 400th rerun of "everbody loves raymond" :ph34r:

 
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Do we really need play by play announcers for tv games anyway?

We should just do away with TV announcers all together and have one guy chime in time to time with any crucial injury news, possible tidbits.

I think I would like a game when the only sounds we hear are the crowd and field. Just mic the field or have us hear the PA announcer to keep us up to date on firstdowns, who made the tackle etc.

 
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ninerindallas said:
I agree with you...it's just not the same.

I was born the year MNF started and I feel like I have it running through my veins. Ever since I was 6 yrs old and living on the east coast where the games started late I've been staying up late watching MNF - my favorite night of the week in my favorite season of the year. If you look at the history below, what you'll quickly notice is that MNF was for a long time the voices of Howard Cossell, Frank Gifford, and Al Michaels. These have been the voices of American Sports for the last 30 years! I remember as a kid telling my parents 'good-night,' going into my room and turning on this small black and white TV which I put under my covers so the parents wouldn't know while I watched the game and waited for the halftime show. I loved the halftime show since at that time (the late 70's) they had by far the best highlights and it was great listening to the guys talk about the game - and that voice of Howard Cossell's that I used to love to practice and imitate for my friends at school. To me, it was cool the way ABC's Wide World of Sports was cool in the 70's - a really big deal. As I got older it was something that my dad and I always watched together and even if we weren't really getting along everything was forgotten during MNF.

So, with this change over to ESPN with these B-team guys this is NOT the same. I don't really care if I shut off the game early although I wasn't going anywhere the other night when the game was close. However, when there's one of those blow outs I'll be down and asleep since I couldn't care less what these guys are babbling about. It's not like I don't like them, but there is no tradition. This "ain't your daddy's Monday Night Football."

Order of MNF booth crews since the beginning of MNF:

1.2 1970s

1.2.1 Jackson, Cosell and Meredith

1.2.2 Cosell, Gifford and Meredith

1.2.3 Cosell, Gifford, Williamson and Karras

1.2.4 Cosell, Gifford, Meredith and Tarkenton

1.3 1980s

1.3.1 Cosell, Gifford, Meredith and Simpson

1.3.2 Gifford, Meredith and Simpson

1.3.3 Gifford, Simpson and Namath

1.3.4 Gifford, Michaels and Swann

1.3.5 Gifford, Michaels and Dierdorf

1.4 1990s

1.4.1 Michaels, Dierdorf and Esiason

1.4.2 Michaels and Esiason

1.5 2000s

1.5.1 Michaels, Fouts and Miller

1.5.2 Michaels and Madden

1.5.2.1 The End of the ABC Era

1.5.3 Move to ESPN

1.5.3.1 Tirico, Theismann and Kornheiser
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Good post. In my opinion, Gifford, Simpson and Namath were easily the worst announcing team of all time.
 
gump said:
Capella said:
Losing its luster was sort of intentional. SNF is now the premier night game, according to the NFL and the price NBC paid.
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Actually, ESPN is paying more for MNF....$1.1 B / year as compared to $600 M / year for NBC.But SNF seems like the premier game to me...especially considering they can change games later in the season.Overall, the NFL earns $3.7 BILLION A YEAR in TV revenues! :eek:
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Hmm, I stand corrected. Thought SNF paid more.Either way, if you look a the schedule and how the NFL allows the flex scheduling at the end of the year, it would seem SNF is the premier game. Makes you wonder why MNF didn't get those options, with paying almost twice as much.
 
Godsbrother said:
I really only have 3 problems with MNF:1) I don't like the annnoucers. Give me the crew that did the Oakland-San Diego game 2) I can't stand sideline reporters. Having two of them is almost unbearable.3) MNF should be on network television.
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:goodposting: I love MNF....I do live on the West Coast so I don't have to stay up until midnight to watch the game.
 
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1) Unless you are one of the few people who don’t have Cable / Satellite TV do you really care if the game is on network TV? Does "Network TV" really matter anymore? As far as I'm concerned TV channels are pretty much the same. Some may have less money to enhance production value, but ESPN (ABC-Disney) doesn't fall in this category.

2) If you have an average Football IQ are there any announcers that are outstanding? I find that I haven't come across an interesting announcing team in the NFL for a long time. They seem to basically dumb down the broadcast so they can appeal to the least knowledgeable fans.

3) For the most part MNF (or any game for that matter) is worth watching if my team is playing, the game is good match up, or I have some fantasy implications. This has been the case for many years and I don't think the criteria have changed at all between last year and this year.

 
Brunell4MVP said:
It's cause you can watch football 24/7 now. Used to be a couple of college games on Saturday, the local football team on Sunday, and then Monday night football. It was the one chance to see other pro teams.
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:goodposting: Yep ... MNF halftime was priceless, because you'd get the recaps of what was going on in the rest of the league. Back then, you had to hunt for great NFL plays on video. MNF halftime was it for a long time. George Michael's Sports Machine and HBO's Inside the NFL came later, and they were very much welcome.

But now ... you've got SportsCenter and ESPN news going at just about all hours of the day and night. Plus the Internet. Oversaturation has certainly kicked in.

 
For the love of Pistol Pete Maravich, what the hell is wrong with you all?

It's Football on Monday Night (in gorgeous Hi-Def)!

Would you rather be watching Dancing with the Stars?

I don't care if it's a trio of syphilis-ridden monkeys calling the game - It's Football on Monday Night!

 
I agree the announcers suck though. Is it that hard to find decent announcers? I mean, does anyone like these guys? I
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I grew up watching games with my dad..one of the most no BS football fans ever..even when I was a little kid in the 60s he hated announcers and watched with the sound off so I grew up watching with the sound off, so I can hit mute if the announcers get on my nerves. Growing up watching with him and his friends is probably why I like low scoring defensive games with a lot of hard hits too except from a fantasy perspective. I agree about the late game crew from week 1. Being on the east coast that crew and wishful thinking re: LaMont Jordan are all that kept me awake. The MNF radio crew isn't perfect but they are more tolerable than this group if fluff-factor gets on your nerves. I always listen to Deckerhoff call FSU and Bucs games on radio too cause he was my advisor when I was at FSU..I can still hear that voice going "what's your excuse this time?" Calling FSU and Bucs games this year is no dream job either. :wall:
 
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It's OBVIOUSLY ESPN and it's whole production staff. From the graphics to the announcers, they're definitely a full step down from other networks. On the other hand, the Sunday Night broadcast on NBC is fantastic. It's almost like a "mini superbowl" every week thus far............TONS of energy and enthusiasm, and Al Michaels who IS the best in the business. ESPN's broadcast is like watching a college football broadcast.........the game is still exciting, but presented very "blandly".

 
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