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WTF!?!?!?DESMOND flippin CLARK made the Pro Bowl as a 'special needs' player? :11:
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Then Michael Clayton of the Bucs belongs too, as he's one of the best downfield blocking WRs.Clark as a receiving TE![]()
But he's one of the better blocking TEs in the NFL.
I will agree that Chicago needs a better receiving TE, but I'd run more 2 TE sets if they get one.
Probably not the best comparison. TEs used to be linemen first, receivers second. Just because this has changed significantly doesn't mean the blocking aspect of the position is not important and worth considering when deciding who the best TEs in the game are.Suppose a team has a TE who rarely catches balls, but acts as an extra tackle most of the time, and is a huge part of his team's rushing success. Should he be snubbed merely because his contribution to his team's success is not as glorified as that of a good receiving TE?Then Michael Clayton of the Bucs belongs too, as he's one of the best downfield blocking WRs.Clark as a receiving TE![]()
But he's one of the better blocking TEs in the NFL.
I will agree that Chicago needs a better receiving TE, but I'd run more 2 TE sets if they get one.
Amen, Guy. Not that I have a great knowledge of Clark, and haven't seen enough of him to make a fair judgement, but if he's a good blocker and an O.K. reciever, I'd much rather have that out of a TE than a good reciever and a BAD blocker. Stats get the glory. #1 reason you didn't see M.Bruener in the Pro Bowl. Best blocking TE in the league for several years but only caught 15-25 balls a year. Supported a stellar rushing attack for years, but no love.Sounds like these other posters don't believe Clark has many good qualities. What's your assessment of him--for those of us who don't get to see him regularly. The couple of times I've seen him, he's looked like a pretty decent athelete w/ size. A big, strong man who runs w/ decent speed. Not enough info to judge his blocking/catching/brain though.Probably not the best comparison. TEs used to be linemen first, receivers second. Just because this has changed significantly doesn't mean the blocking aspect of the position is not important and worth considering when deciding who the best TEs in the game are.Suppose a team has a TE who rarely catches balls, but acts as an extra tackle most of the time, and is a huge part of his team's rushing success. Should he be snubbed merely because his contribution to his team's success is not as glorified as that of a good receiving TE?Then Michael Clayton of the Bucs belongs too, as he's one of the best downfield blocking WRs.Clark as a receiving TE![]()
But he's one of the better blocking TEs in the NFL.
I will agree that Chicago needs a better receiving TE, but I'd run more 2 TE sets if they get one.
I'm not saying one way or another whether Clark should be in the Pro Bowl, as I haven't watched enough of the Bears games. But if he is one of the better blocking TEs in football, his lack of receiving numbers should not be reason to exclude him from the Pro Bowl.
Fair enough, just remember not all systems use the TE in the same way.Not all TEs block well, as a general rule they block better than WRs, but not as well as Tackles.If he execles at blocking, make him a tackle. Tight ends are to catch the ball. Yes, they block at times, sometimes even on pass plays, but their primary responsibility is to be either stretch up the middle seam, or be a safety valve, catching the ball in tight coverage, taking licks from linebackers, that WR's cant stand up to.
I understand the point you're making, but completely disagree. What you're saying is that clark is Matt Lepsis, who was a TE in college, and a fair one at that. He's now a top tackle in the league. All TE's have to block, and block well. It's part of their game. But, it alone shouldn't get you to the pro-bowl. What next? Do we put RB's in because they're better at picking up the blitz? Or stone handed rb's in because they run nice routes?
This is the argument like that for the FB position. Cooley is a glorified FB who is really more like a TE. It was nice to see a real FB in Strong make it this year.As for blocking TEs - Gonzo is up there. That's why his numbers suffered when Roaf was out, and the run game did well. Gonzo "took one for the team" and out of his stats for half of this season.Amen, Guy. Not that I have a great knowledge of Clark, and haven't seen enough of him to make a fair judgement, but if he's a good blocker and an O.K. reciever, I'd much rather have that out of a TE than a good reciever and a BAD blocker. Stats get the glory. #1 reason you didn't see M.Bruener in the Pro Bowl. Best blocking TE in the league for several years but only caught 15-25 balls a year. Supported a stellar rushing attack for years, but no love.Sounds like these other posters don't believe Clark has many good qualities. What's your assessment of him--for those of us who don't get to see him regularly. The couple of times I've seen him, he's looked like a pretty decent athelete w/ size. A big, strong man who runs w/ decent speed. Not enough info to judge his blocking/catching/brain though.Probably not the best comparison. TEs used to be linemen first, receivers second. Just because this has changed significantly doesn't mean the blocking aspect of the position is not important and worth considering when deciding who the best TEs in the game are.Suppose a team has a TE who rarely catches balls, but acts as an extra tackle most of the time, and is a huge part of his team's rushing success. Should he be snubbed merely because his contribution to his team's success is not as glorified as that of a good receiving TE?Then Michael Clayton of the Bucs belongs too, as he's one of the best downfield blocking WRs.Clark as a receiving TE![]()
But he's one of the better blocking TEs in the NFL.
I will agree that Chicago needs a better receiving TE, but I'd run more 2 TE sets if they get one.
I'm not saying one way or another whether Clark should be in the Pro Bowl, as I haven't watched enough of the Bears games. But if he is one of the better blocking TEs in football, his lack of receiving numbers should not be reason to exclude him from the Pro Bowl.
PLEASE draft a TE in Round One Jerry Angelo.
Book it pyite!And Randle El in free agency.PLEASE draft a TE in Round One Jerry Angelo.Leonard Pope or Vernon Davis, come on down!
1. Who' sbetter, Pope or Davis?2. Grid, whats with the baseball guy in your avatar?Book it pyite!And Randle El in free agency.PLEASE draft a TE in Round One Jerry Angelo.Leonard Pope or Vernon Davis, come on down!
That'll upgrade that offense quickly.
it's a reference to the cult movie "the warriors". great flick2. Grid, whats with the baseball guy in your avatar?