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[Rovers]

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Cimini's (NY Daily News Jets beat reporter) blog says that RB Blaylock and 35 year old DE Bobby Hamilton have been released, creating another 2 mil of cap space. This comes at the same time a new contract with WR Cotchery was announced (terms not available) and the suspected cut of Kimo VonOelhoffen today or tomorrow.

As Cimini states, this leaves the Jets with no DE on the 3-4 defense opposite Ellis. Ramsey is also expected to get released, and I figure the Jets cap space at about 27 mil less whatever the Cotchery signing cost. Cimini also surmises that McCariens will be dealt even if the return is minimal, before draft day sometime.

As of now, the Jets have NO RT or DE as they head towards the 2007 season. There is the possibilty that the return of Sione Pouha might mean he will be the starting NT, while moving Dwayne Robertson over to DE, but even if that is the plan, the Jets are woefully thin at the D line and have a gaping hole at ORT and need help at CB.... so forget about the Jets getting an RB IMO, they have VERY pressing needs elsewhere.

The Jets do have the cap space to find another stop gap RB in FA, but I can't see them moving any first day draft picks for an RB. My opinion.... Leon Washington will be the main man at RB this year, unless he proves he can't hold up to 25 touches. Houston will hawk the goal line carries.

Cuts so far, and ones that will certainly happen:

Barlow

Blaylock

Ramsey

Kimo vonO

Hamilton

Gone one way or another:

McCariens

Ed Blanton, a beast at 6'7" and 330 could possibly be the guy the Jets plan to use at RT. He was activated form the TS for the playoffs, and might be a big part of the Jets' plans at RT.... or might not be. In any case, the Jets are now officially desperate to find a 3-4 DE. I think they might even try to trade up for Carricker, if not, will jump for Mebane early now. I think they'de love to get Turner, but I just don't see it happeneing, especially with this news.

 

[The Shizzle]

Looks like the Jets might make a big move with a FA RB???

 

[EBF]

Looks like the Jets might make a big move with a FA RB???

FWIW, I heard weeks ago that they have a deal in place with San Diego for Turner. Time will tell.

 

[brednbuddah]

heard on sirius NFL radio, the tender Turner is under guarantees SD a 1st and a 3rd in this year's draft if he goes to another team.

I think that may be a little too much for the Jets to lay out, they got bigger needs to address, I'd be (pleasantly) surprised if they did it.

 

[EBF]

heard on sirius NFL radio, the tender Turner is under guarantees SD a 1st and a 3rd in this year's draft if he goes to another team.I think that may be a little too much for the Jets to lay out, they got bigger needs to address, I'd be (pleasantly) surprised if they did it.

Isn't that only if a team signs Turner away? I don't think the 1st/3rd thing applies if he's traded, although I might be mistaken.

 

[Iron Mike Tomczak]

Kimo was a bad sign....at least they got rid of him and his contract

 

[Rovers]

With as often as this has been talked about, it's hard to understand why confusion still surrounds the whole Turner deal.

The high tender, which is what SD put on Turner means that any team can sign him until the April 20 deadline. If another team signs Turner by then, SD can either match the offer or let Turner go for a 1st and a 3rd. If Turner doesn't get an offer, or even before the April 20 deadline, SD may trade Turner to any team they choose to, and it doesn't have to be for a 1st and a 3rd, it could be for just a 1st, or even just a 2nd. The reason Turner is unlikely to be part of any draft day trade is because no team will make that trade unless a contract with Turner has been previously worked out.... no team will part with a 1st or 2nd for an RB who has only one year left on his contract.

Are we clear on this at least until tomorrow?

 

[Aussie Cowboy]

The Jets have tried to acquire Redskins running back Ladell Betts in a trade but a potential deal fell through, according to someone with knowledge of the discussions between the teams. The person requested anonymity because of the sensitive nature of trade talks.

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[Rovers]

The Jets have tried to acquire Redskins running back Ladell Betts in a trade but a potential deal fell through, according to someone with knowledge of the discussions between the teams. The person requested anonymity because of the sensitive nature of trade talks.

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Hutchinson is pretty good most of the time. From what I've read, the Skins are looking for picks, and they may have wanted too much for Betts. Betts would be a reasonable aquisition based on my understanding of how this new Jets regime operates. My guess is the Jets offered a third, and Washington wanted a second. Pure speculation on my part, but a reasonable guess me thinks. The Jets will talk to all the teams that might have an RB on the block... T Jones, Turner, Betts.... all of 'em. I think they will also consider the FA's, especially Henry and Green, probably Lewis as well. In the end, I think they use their third rounder for a guy that might slip, maybe a Chris Henry type.

 

[Z-Dog]

The Jets have tried to acquire Redskins running back Ladell Betts in a trade but a potential deal fell through, according to someone with knowledge of the discussions between the teams. The person requested anonymity because of the sensitive nature of trade talks.

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That's a very interesting nugget!Do we think the Jets liked Betts most out of the available market? What's the consensus in here? Is Betts better than Turner?

The Jets have tried to acquire Redskins running back Ladell Betts in a trade but a potential deal fell through, according to someone with knowledge of the discussions between the teams. The person requested anonymity because of the sensitive nature of trade talks.

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Hutchinson is pretty good most of the time. From what I've read, the Skins are looking for picks, and they may have wanted too much for Betts. Betts would be a reasonable aquisition based on my understanding of how this new Jets regime operates. My guess is the Jets offered a third, and Washington wanted a second. Pure speculation on my part, but a reasonable guess me thinks. The Jets will talk to all the teams that might have an RB on the block... T Jones, Turner, Betts.... all of 'em. I think they will also consider the FA's, especially Henry and Green, probably Lewis as well. In the end, I think they use their third rounder for a guy that might slip, maybe a Chris Henry type.

You know, I think a lot of these backs would solidify the Jets backfield.As to your guess, I'm thinking the split was between the Jets late 2nd-rounder and the 2nd-rounder they picked up from the Skins last year. Remember that at the time, the Skins thought they would be picking late in the first round, and I'm sure they want their pick back.

I'll bet the Jets are walking around offering the late 2nd, b/c there's no college back who will be around then who is a fit for the Jets needs. It wasn't enough to get Betts, and it won't be enough to get Turner.

 

[Jiggyonthehut]

I dont think Turner fits the bill here in this scenario. They have a better KR in Justin Miller, which would relegate his value to strictly being a full time RB. While I think he is a fine back, I just dont see the Jets brass eqating his worth to 1st and 3rd round picks- especially if he is not going to return kicks. For a team that is building from the bottom up, and has done a damn good job of it (draft, FA)-- spending two high picks on this guy may just be sending the wrong message both to the fans and the player.

 

[msommer]

Do we think the Jets liked Betts most out of the available market? What's the consensus in here? Is Betts better than Turner?

Betts is certainly cheaper than Turner - given his new contract with the 'Skins

 

[Z-Dog]

I dont think Turner fits the bill here in this scenario. They have a better KR in Justin Miller, which would relegate his value to strictly being a full time RB. While I think he is a fine back, I just dont see the Jets brass eqating his worth to 1st and 3rd round picks- especially if he is not going to return kicks. For a team that is building from the bottom up, and has done a damn good job of it (draft, FA)-- spending two high picks on this guy may just be sending the wrong message both to the fans and the player.

Acquiring Turner would be via trade, not tendering a contract. I think SD will insist on a 1st-rounder, and that's why I don't think it will happen.

 

[Liquid Tension]

I dont think Turner fits the bill here in this scenario. They have a better KR in Justin Miller, which would relegate his value to strictly being a full time RB. While I think he is a fine back, I just dont see the Jets brass eqating his worth to 1st and 3rd round picks- especially if he is not going to return kicks. For a team that is building from the bottom up, and has done a damn good job of it (draft, FA)-- spending two high picks on this guy may just be sending the wrong message both to the fans and the player.

The Jets could not get a RB with Turner's skill in their 1st round pick, so trading it and signing Turner for about the same money as that pick is worth it.

 

[Z-Dog]

I dont think Turner fits the bill here in this scenario. They have a better KR in Justin Miller, which would relegate his value to strictly being a full time RB. While I think he is a fine back, I just dont see the Jets brass eqating his worth to 1st and 3rd round picks- especially if he is not going to return kicks. For a team that is building from the bottom up, and has done a damn good job of it (draft, FA)-- spending two high picks on this guy may just be sending the wrong message both to the fans and the player.

The Jets could not get a RB with Turner's skill in their 1st round pick, so trading it and signing Turner for about the same money as that pick is worth it.

Turner would command more money than a late 1st-round pick. My assumption is that Turner will use Jordan's 5-year $25 million deal as a starting point for negotiatinos. A late first-round pick gets under $2 million/season.

 

[Tag]

Betts would come cheaper than Turner, Thats who the Jets need to go after.

 

[prymetyme25]

Jet release QB Patrick Ramsey.

 

[Liquid Tension]

I dont think Turner fits the bill here in this scenario. They have a better KR in Justin Miller, which would relegate his value to strictly being a full time RB. While I think he is a fine back, I just dont see the Jets brass eqating his worth to 1st and 3rd round picks- especially if he is not going to return kicks. For a team that is building from the bottom up, and has done a damn good job of it (draft, FA)-- spending two high picks on this guy may just be sending the wrong message both to the fans and the player.

The Jets could not get a RB with Turner's skill in their 1st round pick, so trading it and signing Turner for about the same money as that pick is worth it.

Turner would command more money than a late 1st-round pick. My assumption is that Turner will use Jordan's 5-year $25 million deal as a starting point for negotiatinos. A late first-round pick gets under $2 million/season.

I was assuming Turner would get about 15 mil for 4 years and I think a late first round gets about the same? Where are your 2 mil a year numbers coming from? Not to mention Turner is better than anyone the Jets could get at that spot and is probably better than anyone other than AP (and who knows about that)

 

[Rovers]

Kimo was a surprise non-cut, and some reporters are windering aloud if that was to entice Porter to come on board... sounds like just conjecture at this point, but worth noting.

I think Turner will be looking for "better than Jordan" money, and frankly, I don't think AJ Smith will trade him in any case.... eh has recently said as much, it's a one and a three or he's remains a Chrager.